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Daredevil To Receive The Reboot Treatment!

Daredevil becomes the latest casualty in the new era of movie making reboots.
This from Empireonline.com:

"But here's the line that made us go hmmmm (in a positive way). Marvel are "quietly developing a new version of Daredevil". No other details of writers or producers or potential directors or stars (although we know it won't be Ben Affleck, who's been vocal about how he felt stung by the reaction to the original). But it's the first proper confirmation we've had that Daredevil v.2.0 is anywhere near happening."

A Daredevil reboot has only been rumor and speculation before but now the Daredevil reboot is officially confirmed. So who should play the blind acrobatic lawyer?

16 Yes
2 No
jman1977
9/24/2009
empireonline.com

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193 Comments

lol Im cool with that. I LOVE Daredevil.

There were things to like about the first one, but really could have been SO much better
DarthMulder - 9/24/2009, 7:57 AM
Michael C Hall has my vote
spideysweb - 9/24/2009, 7:57 AM
"Officially confirmed?" Yeah, not really. This just means it's in the early stages of development. Which means the odds are still long against it ever happening.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I like the Ben Affleck version. In later years, I've been able to see more of it's flaws, but I still love Ben Affleck in the role, and would love to see him return to it, especially in a "Born Again" movie.

I would rather not see a reboot, myself.
slimybug - 9/24/2009, 7:58 AM
I don't like Reboots/Remakes but if they are have MICHAEL C HALL as DD!!!




Great article @ JMAN! Be lookin' forward to this movie!
LEEE777 - 9/24/2009, 7:58 AM
No need for a reboot :)
teabag - 9/24/2009, 7:59 AM
Bring Colin back damn it!!!!!
ASSASSIN666 - 9/24/2009, 8:02 AM
Apart from some pretty terrible CGI and a dodgy scene here and there the first Daredevil film wasnt too bad!

Still i think a reboot could be a good thing! A new Daredevil film needs to take the example of Ed Brubakers and to a lesser extent Bendis' work on the character - now that kind of thing would make a good Daredevil movie!

Guess, i better start work on a Daredevil fan cast! :D
joshw24 - 9/24/2009, 8:07 AM
YEP, BRING BACK COLIN!!!

An @ TEA @ I agree!
LEEE777 - 9/24/2009, 8:07 AM
Seriously, Michael C. Hall would be freaking GREAT!
DriemMachine - 9/24/2009, 8:09 AM
Im too busy watching 'Lie To Me' but Ive gotta try and watch a few episodes of Dexter to see if this guy's actually any good for DD!
joshw24 - 9/24/2009, 8:12 AM
He's not just good for DD, he's the BEST for DD!!!
LEEE777 - 9/24/2009, 8:13 AM
Michael C. Hall for DD!
ClintEastwood - 9/24/2009, 8:14 AM
I hoped that they wouldn't reboot, but it's clear that they won't listen to us.
supermarioworldE - 9/24/2009, 8:16 AM
LEE: Well, he looks right for the part but ill have to check out his acting first!

I actually hope they keep Elektra out of DD this time - id personally like to see Karen Page this time round! Maybe they could follow the Kevin Smith storyline and have her murdered by Bullseye? That could lead into a great trilogy especially if they followed the characters history of having a nervous breakdown! :)
joshw24 - 9/24/2009, 8:17 AM
Hang on though - who's making this? Marvel Studios or Fox!?!
joshw24 - 9/24/2009, 8:22 AM
@josh, trust me Hall is a perfect fit for DD.
spideysweb - 9/24/2009, 8:24 AM
Just thinking it's a shame that Ray Park couldn't play DD, with his martial arts backround he would have been awesome. Yes I know the guy doesn't resemble DD, or Matt Murdock in any way , but the way he moves does
ASSASSIN666 - 9/24/2009, 8:24 AM
@josh's comment, yeah who actually owns the property??
DegenX - 9/24/2009, 8:25 AM
Im not too sure about this MCH stuff ..he always comes off a bit whinney to me.......and sounds like a kid whos balls just dropped :)


Fox will do it :(
teabag - 9/24/2009, 8:27 AM
I actually thought the first version was decent and the Director's Cut was 100x better. I don't think they need to reboot it since his origin wasn't done too badly and personally, I don't want to see another origin. They just need to re-cast him since Ben Affleck won't do it. And it was surprisingly dark enough, too. The only justification in a re-boot is the fact that Bullseye is dead but other than that, I don't see a reason for a reboot because it was done pretty well and it actually felt like a Daredevil comic, which is the most important criteria of a CBM when I judge them.
MetalHead - 9/24/2009, 8:28 AM
Another DD is dumb move. It's gonna be like the Punisher. A Dr. Strange movie is a better idea. A Namor the Submariner movie is a better idea. Why oh why do they want to do another DD
StrangemannX09 - 9/24/2009, 8:32 AM
Im with assassin666, Ray Park would be awesome to play DD. The way he moves would be amazing, and yeah he may not look like em but damn hes got the moves
Cape - 9/24/2009, 8:32 AM
I like Misha Collins (Castiel the angel on Supernatural) as Daredevil! Misha can play dark very well! He is intense!

I just want them to stay true to DD'S persona and story and get it completely right this time!

MISHA COLLINS 1
DDD - 9/24/2009, 8:40 AM
Ray Park would be great if he wasnt such a shit actor and an overated midget..lol :P
teabag - 9/24/2009, 8:40 AM
Ryan Reynolds for DD
Kratos6 - 9/24/2009, 8:44 AM
By the way, I Fancast X-men 4 on Fanfic, Tea@, Josh@, Leee@.

Check it out! See what ya think?
DDD - 9/24/2009, 8:44 AM
DDD@ great job :)
teabag - 9/24/2009, 8:54 AM
@Metalhead-Bullseye didn't die, if you watch past the credits, there's an extra scene with him in a full body cast. Good stuff.
Tobuttica - 9/24/2009, 8:58 AM
This guy for DD...





:)
teabag - 9/24/2009, 9:03 AM
Love this. Daredevil is my favorite comic after X-Men.
Fox really [frick]ed the Daredevil movie and so did Affleck.

I like the idea of Michael C. Hall.

But no joke here MATT DAMON!!!
Nycguy84 - 9/24/2009, 9:04 AM
Thanx very much Tea@!

I was one who didn't think Ben did such a bad job! And Michael was great as Kingpin! But I want the Caucasian kingpin, be true to the character!
DDD - 9/24/2009, 9:05 AM
No need for a reboot, i agree @ teabag

Besides Ryan Reynolds [lol] what about Tom Jane? I actually liked his version of Punisher, albeit War Zone was fantastically gory and entertaining. He looks Matt Murdock-ish.

How 'bout Matthew Perry? Or the guy that played Nite Owl 2 from Watchmen?

Fartman - 9/24/2009, 9:07 AM
i think MATTHEW FOX would be a good DD i like MICHAEL C HALL better for the RIDDLER if anything
dellamorte1872 - 9/24/2009, 9:07 AM
josh- Watch the first episode of Dexter and try not to be hooked. I think he would make a decent DD.
ironknight27 - 9/24/2009, 9:11 AM
WTF! Why are they rebooting this? The movie wasn't that bad. Just make a good sequel.
BmanHall - 9/24/2009, 9:21 AM
I like Bullseye and Kingpin (how can you be a Daredevil fan and not), but if this is really gonna happen, bring on some Typhoid Mary, Mr. Fear, The Owl, Madcap, Gladiator, etc. Daredevil has such a cool rogues gallery. Why does every re-boot, re-make, re-hash have to use the same damn villians (Superman and Lex anyone?).
MatchesMalone - 9/24/2009, 9:24 AM
Can't wait and Michael C. Hall isn't a bad choice for Matt.
Bandrews1 - 9/24/2009, 9:25 AM
Why are people against a reboot? the movie may not have been completely awful, but it still wasnt up to par with what it could be. I love daredevil, I really hope this actually happens
fotc - 9/24/2009, 9:26 AM
Bman-I agree. Make it a sequel with a different actor in the lead role and bring on some new villians.
MatchesMalone - 9/24/2009, 9:26 AM
Oh, and Michael C. Hall for Daredevil!
MatchesMalone - 9/24/2009, 9:28 AM
i liked the movie it was okay but if ben does not come back put matt damon in there
Marvel Rules - 9/24/2009, 9:37 AM
@ Tobuttica
Wow, I didn't know that. It's funny cause I coincidentally started watching Daredevil last night before I passed out. I'll be sure to check it out tonight. Thanks. (I hope the scene was left in the Director's Cut.)
MetalHead - 9/24/2009, 9:37 AM
i couldn't care less if its a reboot or not as long as i'm entertained
CorndogBurglar - 9/24/2009, 9:41 AM
@LEEE777 Check out my new DD fan-fic! I KNOW you'll like the casting ;)

@josh Beat you to it! Finally!!
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 9:51 AM
Michael C. Hall IS A GOOD CHOICE BUT I WOULD PICK LUKE GOSS I THINK HE REALLY FITS THE ROLL AND HE CAN ACT
Swiftsword777 - 9/24/2009, 9:53 AM
You Kinda wanna medium sized guy kinda slinky but ripped cause he isn't brute force he's agility so keep that in mind mch just wouldn't cut it matt Damon doesn't do movies like this and o think someone like Reynolds type would be prime the guy from hangover maybe! Haha
SdProphet - 9/24/2009, 10:02 AM
Daredevil was pretty Good IMO.

They could've just made an even better Sequel and kept on steppin'.

Seriously, Rebooting this is kind've redundant.

But Whatever...

The Reboot is now under pressure to be Good as well.
NubaX - 9/24/2009, 10:29 AM
Luke Goss was my first in mind pick as well Swifts. Ive Like him in every film Ive seen him in, especially Blade II. I cant wait to see Tekken, since he will be playing Steve Fox. If anyone hasn't check out the cast to Tekken you should, it looks good.
Anyways, Goss has proved himself as a martial artist and I think he would be a good fit for DD.

DDD- Ben was ok, and not a really good ok. As an African American man myself I wouldn't have cast Michael as King Pin, yes he is built but he doesn't have the demeanor to play William Fisk to me. I would have went for the Caucasian kingpin.

But I DEFINITELY think DD needs a reboot. Even Colin Farrell went on Jay Leno and said (quota) " I looked gay as Hell". Which I thought he wasn't bad as Bulls Eye but the costume needed some work. Jennifer Garner as Elektra was the best thing about that film.

The "Battling Jack" Murdock series was good. I think they should take from that and let his father play a big role in the film.
CrashTest - 9/24/2009, 10:30 AM
Michael C. Hall or Ewan McGregor would be awesome! And Daniel day-Lewis as Owl and Michael Fassbender as Bullseye!
AlexDeLarge666 - 9/24/2009, 10:36 AM
No Bullseye! No Collin Farrell!!






Mr. Fear???
Minotauro - 9/24/2009, 10:39 AM
Luke Goss is frakking 45 and looks it!

I liked the first DD and really liked the directors cut. I think they should recast(because thats obviously going to be the case anyway) but do it more like The Incredible Hulk and continue on after the events of the first movie. So Kingpins locked up. Bullseye is all healed, maybe have Elekta..its not vital. Typhoid Mary would be cool.

Michael C Hall is a great actor but i kinda know what Teabag means about that voice..of course he could be putting it on a bit for Dexter. Good pic though. As is Mathew Fox. I think Clive Owen would be a great DD..he would have to perfect his yankee accent though, which is a bit naff(Sin City)
Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 10:40 AM
i liked the directors cut of DD cant wait for the reboot
thedarkknight666 - 9/24/2009, 10:43 AM
@teabag - Haha, what is the clip with the snap-kick to grandma from?

I always imagined Michael C. Hall as a good Eddie Brock, Mathew Fox is a decent pick.
WeaponX - 9/24/2009, 10:45 AM
I dont think Luke Goss looks 45, and I'm more for him for his Martial Arts skills, his a bad Motha F&*^@! Its hard as SHIT to train someone to fight like that, PLUS give it some style to make it look authentic, in a short amount of time.

But I would defiantly fill a recast and continue the story, like The Incredible Hulk.

Off topic Michael Jai White needs to be pick up for a Marvel or DC flick. if you have seen Blood and Bone check it out. It has its corny moments but the Martial Arts from White are on point.

CrashTest - 9/24/2009, 10:47 AM
reboot sounds a lil over the top a recast would work fine i think
jimthefan - 9/24/2009, 10:50 AM
hall should be DD, i've loved that dude in six feet under, and judging from dexter i say the guy could play ANY role and come out a winner

but no they will pick some new "it" guy none of us care about who will "never have read the books, but liked the part" or some such crap and at comic con tell everybody how big a fan he is now and when we see the movie be let down because the dude didn't really get the character at all beacuse he is not an actor but a young face that stared in some teen crap and the studio thinks the dude will bring in some coin...

want to know why i know that? i dreamed the whole thing shortly after the first one faded out and the word reboot begain to pour out.
i still wake up in a cold sweat every now and then
Boogie138 - 9/24/2009, 10:56 AM
@Ror - Clive Owen is worst choice ever dude...I can't stand that guy..
Minotauro - 9/24/2009, 10:58 AM
ben affleck for dd
Denn1s - 9/24/2009, 11:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69s0jpKbRE
Quagmire14 - 9/24/2009, 11:20 AM
Well Tauro, you also think Avatar looks awesome, go figure!;)
Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 11:22 AM
DD wasn't that bad?? What movie where you guys watching? Ben does not fit the part, Matt should be unassuming in RL and Affleck is a frat boy, the arrogance always shows through, Matt Damon should have gotten the part. Garner was horrible casting, she can never come across as a stone cold killer, how Elektra should be at least a portion of the time, you can always see the little girl in Garner, which was why 13 going on 30 was perfect casting for her. Foggy was great, Michael as Kingpin was good, but they gave him shite for dialogue, Colin was good as bullseye, the DD costume was top-notch, but the action sequences were some of the sloppiest CG and wire work I'd seen in a LONG time. Frankly, it looked like it was made by a couple of fanboys with a huge budget and no one to say, "Whoa, cool idea, but it's not looking right." Definitely needs a reboot, no question.
mwmcintyre - 9/24/2009, 11:30 AM
Interesting choice with Michael C. Hall. I am intrigued by the idea.
mwmcintyre - 9/24/2009, 11:31 AM
Keep Ben Affleck, no reboot, no origin story, just a new story. What's wrong with that? Keep Colin Farrell and Michael Clark Duncan, but no Jen
Timerider84 - 9/24/2009, 11:36 AM
TIH was a reboot...hell even the director said so...it doesnt follow the first Hulk at all....anyway Recast i can live with but keep the suite.....i like a kinky suite :P
teabag - 9/24/2009, 11:38 AM
Think it's to soon for a reboot, but if they have to then I'm game. Great character and possible stories, they just got to do it right with a better actor...and hey at least we're not taking about Ghost Rider 2.

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TheTopherTap - 9/24/2009, 11:50 AM
@teabag: Keep the suit? Really? I looked good in pictures but it was head to toe leather. What martial artist would restrict themselves like that? Remember, Matt's blind. . . so who the hell made the suit and billy club with the logos for him? Mail order?

Oh, and speaking of logos, as much as I agree the Director's cut was an improvement to the theatrical release. . . I can't STAND that scene when Ben Ulrich lights the DD logo ablaze in the subway station. Does DD carry lighter fluid with him in a squeeze bottle?
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 11:50 AM
Multi@ he might of thought it was a bottle of water.....Blind idiot..lol

What Martial Artist uses Radar sense to get around beating criminals...i think the suite was good and we can let that bit of fantasy slide..:)
teabag - 9/24/2009, 12:01 PM
Maybe he does! Mt God man, THAT is your biggest gripe? In a comic book movie??

Tea, I dont give a [frick] what the director, the producer, the cast, The damn Hulk himself says, if they wanted to completely reboot the Hulk they would not have set that movie in Brazil, were Ang Lee's movie ended. Or was that a coincidence? It was a requel.
Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 12:02 PM
@tea. . Oh don't get me wrong, the suit is trivial. If more people liked it then not, I say keep it. I just always pictured a simple, red ninja-style outfit. Remember when Matt went after his father's killers? He fashioned his dad's boxing robe around himself and covered his face. Practical :)

@Ror. Dude, if that's one of the things that bothered me then so what? You think that's too small to mention? Ok, here goes:

1. Ben Affleck looked flabby as hell.
2. Jen Garner was all pigtails, dimples and shitty moves. Cutting up sand bags with DD's painted face? Are you serious??
3. Kingpin didn't kill Matt's father, the Fixer did.
4. Bullseye gets his scar when DD carves it into his head.
5. Awful CGI
6. Sarcophagus sleeping chamber??
7. Ben all cut and bruised in one scene, then clean as a whistle in the next.

. . . I've got a few more if you still think these are trivial.
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 12:05 PM
No way. This time we do it right and go with Guy Pearce.

satanors - 9/24/2009, 12:13 PM
And no daredevil reboot.
satanors - 9/24/2009, 12:16 PM
Guy Pearce = Dr. Hank Pym :) He already turned down DD once
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 12:16 PM
Ror@ lol...apart from them completely changing the story in the credits the fact he is in Brazil does not make it a re-Quel.....hell in that case Batman Begins is a Re-Quel of Batman & Robin since they ended and started in Gotham...lol :P
teabag - 9/24/2009, 12:18 PM
@ Rorshcach01: a REquel? LOL never heard that one before

Multi: Agree with all points except the suit.

The Leather is heavy and binding, but if he trained in it then he would just attenuate himself to it and his skills would be unaffected. .
Leather armor like bikers wear make sense to a guy that does a lot of tumbling.
DarthMulder - 9/24/2009, 12:26 PM
i thought the rumor a few months back of seeing Jason Statham play dd was a good one.
comicboyV1 - 9/24/2009, 12:26 PM
@Darth I understand that point, we have the same philosophy in the military: train like you fight. But in regards to the film, look at any of the fight scenes where he's wearing the leather suit. His moves don't look fluid at all because leather doesn't bend like other materials would have. But,lo and behold, when you see CGI DD bouncing around, the suit looks like it it has the consistency of spandex. Very poor execution.

@comicboyV1 It wasn't a rumor, he wants the part.
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 12:30 PM
Multi: I actually thought the sleeping chamber was a good idea, it's not a sarcophagus, it's a sensory deprivation chamber, given his heightened senses, it would probably be hard to sleep at night in the city otherwise.
mwmcintyre - 9/24/2009, 12:36 PM
@mwmcintyre I was making fun of it :) ergo, sarcophagus

I just don't understand additions like these. Everyone says they want the movie to have the feel of the comic but a realistic approach. If that's the case, then you guys have to remember that, to the outside world, Matt Murdock is blind! Who would make that crazy suit for him? Who would redesign his Hell's Kitchen apartment with a mini Batcave room and wheel a gigantic sleeping chamber into it? All that stuff would draw attention to his outwardly simple life. Matt Murdock is not wealthy like Bruce Wayne, so who paid for all that sh*t? In the comics, his billy club was a gift from Stick. He could use it as an unassuming cane and still have a weapon handy when needed. These are the questions the people usually say "don't bitch about". Then a movie full of loopholes comes out and everyone aks then anyway.

bottom line is, the studio turned the DD movie into another teen-oriented popcorn flick to turn a quick buck. Proof of that is their failure to support the release of the Director's Cut until AFTER they received bad reviews for the theatrical release.

They might as well have held a press conference and said "No, no guys, you got the wrong idea. . . THIS is the real DD movie. We accidentally released the one you guys didn't like in theaters."
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 12:37 PM
satanors

Guy Pierce already turned down DD the first time.

teabag

Never... EVER compare Nolan's Batman to Joel's gay rubber nipple porn again! ^_^ TIH was a half-n-half, they didn't fully reboot. Gotham is synonymous with Batman. The Hulk has no real ties to Brazil, other than ending up there at the end of Ang's superior film.

Michael C. Hall would be a good casting. He's got the chops, and I think the voice thing would work for him as Murdoch. Besides, he can always bone up on his gravelly, over-the-top, Bale-ish, super-hero voice ;)
BillyBlack - 9/24/2009, 12:40 PM
BillyBlack@ Never... EVER call Lees Hulk superior..lol
teabag - 9/24/2009, 12:44 PM
They need a recast, not a reboot. DD needs to be darker and grittier, too much about the first DD seemed aimed at the younger audience. Now I understand the 13-16 audience is prime time $$$ for movie companies but, DD is not the pretty boy Ben Affleck. I honestly think a DD movie can work well with no real 'Supervillains' but, rather just DD fighting street gangs and eventually the mob. Cleaning up Hell's Kitchen one block at a time. That follows more closely with Frank Miller's noir approach on DD and I think would be the best film. The Owl or Kingpin as the main antagonist being the leader of the mob DD is trying to take down. Hold off on any other villains until a sequel.
MidKnight35 - 9/24/2009, 12:48 PM
Timerider84 (Keep Ben Affleck, no reboot, no origin story, just a new story. What's wrong with that? Keep Colin Farrell and Michael Clark Duncan, but no Jen)

What movie were you watching?????? you must be blind.

Guy Pearce would be a good pick for DD but BillyBlack is right if I can remember correctly he turned DD down. But maybe he'll say yes to Dr. Hank Pym.


The DD outfit was garbage to me. I think it needs to be more on the Combat suite side, how Batmans Body looked, not a Blind man running around in a suite of leather.

CrashTest - 9/24/2009, 12:50 PM
I wouldn't say its superior, but just as good, for different reasons. Obviously TIH had the Smash factor...thats it though!

Tea, dude that title sequence was just a little half assed attempt to distance the movie from the original. If it was a total reboot, they would have began with him as Bruce Banner before being Gamma blasted. They wanted the best of both worlds. They didn't want to associate it with Ang Lee's movie too much, but they did want to continue the story from where he left off. A Requel!

Multi, thats more like it! Some of those grioes i would agree with. But i still think you are being a little pedantic about these type of movies. I mean who really gives a [frick] where he got his expensive stuff! Hes a blind acrobat with sonar! Maybe an uncle left it too him, along with a very nice decorator whos great at keeping secrets.
Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 12:52 PM
@Ror. . Umm. . well. . . in that case, what's that decorator's number?? I want my own Batcave dammit!!
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 12:55 PM
I think it's understandable, but a bit sad that a movie tanks (in terms of quality, not boxoffice) that they immediately blame the most visually present part of the movie, the actor. Movies are MADE by a producer who then hires a writer, and then hires a director (who's job is to INTERPRET WHAT'S ON THE WRITEN PAGE!) and then a list of actors (hope, fully A list). They hired Mark Steven Johnson to write the script and direct the movie (not the best choice in Hollywood). Next, the cast. Ben Affleck isn't the most inspired actor (He isn't necessarily bad, look at his other movies. Some of 'em are pretty good. Good Will Hunting, for example) They hired Michael Clark Duncan to play Wilson Fisk. Strange choice, but he's a good actor. They hired Colin Farrel to play an irish Bullseye, who was probably portrayed as an IRISHMEN in the SCREENPLAY, rather than having him portrayed as a Brooklyn native. Farrel can drop his accent, so I don't know what insanity inspired Johnson to do that. Then they made probably the only decent choice for Elekra, Jennifer Garner, who's a good actor (just look at Alias and 13 Going On 30), but sometimes she needs an actors director for an inspired performance, which Johnson ISN'T. So, in summation, sometimes a movie sucks on principal and you have to blame everyone! Stop pissing on Affleck alone! Change the writer/director and he might have done a decent job.
Wesley Colvin - 9/24/2009, 12:58 PM
I didn't mind the first DareDevil movie...
As my friend always says the Greatest Super Hero's are Bat-man and DareDevil .... Reasons...

1) Bat-man can kill anyone...
2) And Daredevil can sue you ( I.E take all your money or put you in jail)

;-)
thegreek - 9/24/2009, 1:09 PM
Sorry, Wes, no offense to Garner, she is a good actor, but she was a really bad casting choice for Elektra, just like Halle Berry was a really bad casting choice for Storm. It's not about how good of an actor she is, she just doesn't fit the part, She just can't pull off the dyed-in-the-wool killer that Elektra needs to be. I think they went with Duncan because they needed the physicality, the sheer size and power and I can't think of another Hollywood actor right now that has that, let alone a white guy. Marlon Brando could have done it at one point(Apocalypse Now), but is way past that point. You are right, though Affleck is certainly not the only one or even the primary one that should be blamed.
mwmcintyre - 9/24/2009, 1:14 PM
Superior!!!

Ed Norton and Liv Tyler founded the mannequin acting workshop in TIH. Seriously, I've seen better chemistry in rape scenes.
BillyBlack - 9/24/2009, 1:24 PM
Awesome!

Micheal c hall for DD!
Great actor
looks like him
NightAvenger4 - 9/24/2009, 1:34 PM
Sorry BillyBlack, but Ang Lee's Hulk was the epitome of bad directing for a CBM, and the acing was just as poor.

Ang Lee: "I really don't feel like reading Hulk's back story, do you guys mind if I make up my own?"

Universal Studios: "Nope"

Ang Lee: "But how will I connect with comic fans? I'VE GOT IT!! I'll use comic book panels as scene transitions! Those guys will think I'm a REAL fan now!"

Universal Studios: "Add mutant dogs too, they'll love that sh*t."
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 1:36 PM
Multi- LMAO
thegreek - 9/24/2009, 2:19 PM
Dexter for DD :-)
Imran - 9/24/2009, 2:19 PM
@Ror, And you're the genius that knows what's good???
Minotauro - 9/24/2009, 2:20 PM
theartofoneness - 9/24/2009, 2:20 PM
How bout Jason Statham for the reboot?
JHowlett - 9/24/2009, 2:34 PM
wasn't the first one bad enough? what's next.. a supergirl reboot/sequal? c'mon.
InFamouslyCool - 9/24/2009, 2:45 PM
Michael C Hall or Sam Worthington
Agent13 - 9/24/2009, 2:48 PM
why don't we reboot hollywood im so sick of sh-it! Dare devil was fin and ben was fine. if u people have a problem with ben then just get someone else to play it but call it daredevil 2. I still say the hulk could of still stayed the same and have the same people in it.
Logan-X - 9/24/2009, 2:52 PM
what about Michael C Hall AS Sam Worthington in Daredevil. Its crazy enough it just might work!
theartofoneness - 9/24/2009, 2:55 PM
@theartofoneness Well how about Ryan Reynolds AS Michael C. Hall AS Sam Worthington AS Daredevil!

That'll get my eight dollars :)
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 3:07 PM
I'd go with Jude Law as Daredevil.

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MovieTheaterLad - 9/24/2009, 3:16 PM
was nothing wrong with the first movie!!
I agree with you logan!
phenomenon - 9/24/2009, 3:19 PM
some of you guys make no sense..... you want to recast, and continue the story? when most of you dont think the movie was anything more than mediocre. It's been 6 years (almost 7) since the last one.. why would they recast and continue a 6 year old movie? think jsut a bit
fotc - 9/24/2009, 3:20 PM
@fotc

Probably because Daredevil deserves better. And now with the amount of superhero movies rising higher and higher, now would be a great time to give Daredevil the chance it truly deserved.


Also, the R-Rated Director's Cut of the movie was actually pretty good.
MovieTheaterLad - 9/24/2009, 3:26 PM
Why does everyone cast the same people for every role? Sam Worthington and Ryan Reynolds for everything? Atleast jude Law is thinking outside of the box a little. I think Guy Pearce is probably the best choice as of yet.
MidKnight35 - 9/24/2009, 3:54 PM
@movietheatre- ur right he deserves better????lol aka a fresh start with some real potential... not some 1/2 asses sequel.. by the time it comes out it'll be nearly a decade since the first one

fotc - 9/24/2009, 3:55 PM
Michael C. Hall is probably the best suggestion for DD I've heard so far. I can't really think of better choices.

Statham would be terrible. Sure he is ripped and can do stunts and sh*t, but let's not forget the Matt Murdock side to DD. Statham would fail in that department. He would really FAIL.

Worthington- Hell no. He just isn't right for the part. It seems like everyone suggests him for tons of CBM roles, yet none of them are right for him. Interesting...

InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/24/2009, 4:01 PM
Don't apologize Multi-

A lot of people didn't get that movie.

I liked the back story Lee had though, very Frankenstein-ish. I'm sure you prefered the half-ass Bill Bixby rip off, that was totally true to the origin story. From a military standpoint, you found that to be a more credible representation than Lee's movie? Maybe you didn't like TIH either.

I know... you can do another laundry list of complaints ;) Nolte and the Hulk Dogs are good starting points. Everyone hates the Hulk Dogs after all...

Good thing they never did that in the comics ^_^
BillyBlack - 9/24/2009, 4:08 PM
Well I like the first movie, I can't understand all the hate. The costume looked fine, I think Collin made a great Bullseye I even like his humor, Michael Clarke Duncan a menacing Kingpin, Ben and Jen were suitable for their roles, even the soundtrack was amazing.

I wish they didn't reboot this property, but since they are going to do it anyway my vote goes to Jason Statham.
Verdugo - 9/24/2009, 4:18 PM
does Marvel Studios/disney have the rights to DD now????? I hope so
IronMarvel - 9/24/2009, 4:18 PM
I don't really see the need for a reboot. There really is nothing wrong with a sequel, they didn't do anything to drastically alter the canon and everything is pretty much fine. A recast should be done IMO though.

Michael C. Hall for DD

James Marsters/Michael Fassbender (hadn't thought of Fassbender) for Bullseye

Rhona Mitra for Elektra

Ray Winstone for Kingpin
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/24/2009, 4:35 PM
@BillyBlack Oh, no worries, I got the concept of the movie. In fact, I got the concept so early on that it didn't distract me from watching Lee completely butcher the origin story!

I even had time for a cat nap while Hulk was silently wandering through the desert :)

You know what my problem with directors like Lee? They don't understand the origins of the character they signed up to do a movie on, so they feel obligated to change the story. For whose benefit? They should just stir up their creative juices and make their own original character.
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 4:48 PM
Tyler

With reboots being all the rage, if they have to do a recasting they just wind up rebooting the whole damn thing. They may split the difference and go the "requel" route, but I don't see the point in that.

Verdugo

With all the uproar over MCD as kingpin, how do you think Statham's heavy english accent would go over?

Multi-

hahahhahah hey! he did some damage in the desert! You must've been thinking about Liv Tyler holding hands with Hulk in the cave, watching the rain like it's a fkn summer's eve douche commercial. Talk about a snoozer! So what are the CBMs you do like? If there is such a thing. Make a list grenade eater! :)

I can't agrue with your beefs against the origins. I would agrue the same can be said for TIH. A Bixby montage is not an origin story.
BillyBlack - 9/24/2009, 4:50 PM
I guess, but I just don't want to see his origin again, I want to see them pick up where they left off.

Not only Statham's heavy accent, but his heavy lack of acting talent as well!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/24/2009, 4:57 PM
recasting is retarded without redoing it... does anyone on here have common sense? recast and continue the story nearly a decade later? come on
fotc - 9/24/2009, 4:58 PM
hahahah Tyler

But doesn't he work wonders with all the kung fu?
BillyBlack - 9/24/2009, 4:58 PM
BillyBlack: I guess, but that counts for nothing when the only character you can play is a weird-english-european accented mercenary type guy with absolutely no character depth whatsoever.

InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/24/2009, 5:04 PM
@Billy: Sorry, hero, "nanomeds" a Hulk do not make. You can reference ALL the overly dramatic or Bixby moments that were in The Incredible Hulk, but it won't change the fact that it rocked compared to Ang Lee's Fulk (that's Fake + Hulk, in case you're not following). I REALLY wish you could have understood the sarcastic wit and great dialogue that helped make The Incredible Hulk such a memorable movie. . but you were probably too busy coloring :)

CBMs that I enjoyed? Well, lets start with:

1. Watchmen
2. Blade
3. Batman (1989)
4. Iron Man
5. The Incredible Hulk
6. Superman II (Donner Cut)
7. Batman Begins
8. The Dark Knight
9. Hellboy
10. Sin City
11. V for Vendetta
12. Punisher: War Zone
13. Constantine
14 Spider-Man 1 & 2 (my only big NEG is Kirsten as MJ)

Now, to the ones that I'm not fond of:

1. Fulk (note the above reference)
2. Daredevil (even the DC wasn't that good)
3. Fantastic Four 1 / 2
4. X-Men 1 - 3
5. Wolverine: Origins
6. Batman Forever
7. Batman & Robin
8. Superman Returns
9. The Spirit
10. Spider-Man 3
11. Elektra
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 5:09 PM
Daredevil sucked because Ben Affleck sucked as Daredevil...Garner sucked as Elektra...MCD sucked as Kingpin...and Colin was...actually pretty good as Bullseye so I'll leave him alone.

The plot was thin...REALLY thin, and the director's cut doesn't do much but add a pointless subplot.

There also was WAY too many IMPORTANT characters in the same film...Trying to introduce Elektra, Bullseye, Daredevil AND Kingpin ALL in the same film???

The first one should have had a deeper, multi-layered origin...The love interest should have been KAREN PAGE (with a love triangle involving her, Matt/DD and Foggy Nelson)...and the main threat should have ONLY been the Kingpin and his empire...Bullseye/Elektra should have been saved for sequels...

I mean, look at Iron Man...they only had (and only needed) Iron Monger for the first film and that's how it should be done.
Quagmire14 - 9/24/2009, 5:28 PM
Multi-

No. Apparetly what makes a Hulk is a Green light bulb and a dentist's chair. :)

Great dialogue? Is that this "sarcasm" you were talking about? What's that?

Wow! Fulk = Fake + Hulk, you DO know good dialogue!

You're right though, I was coloring. I was drawing on Liv Tyler's face with my purple crayon. Bored to death with your #5 being the cinematic equivalent of a fart joke.

Constantine?!?!? and you wanna make jokes?
BillyBlack - 9/24/2009, 5:33 PM
Michael Clark Duncan was a great King Pin. He was the best part of Daredevil. You try and find a white guy his size who can act and I'll take it back but Michael Clark Duncan rocked. He is so good at being intimidating and that's what makes Kingpin, Kingpin.

I don't see why it needs to be rebooted. Just do the next movie differently. But I don't want to see another origin story.

Maybe they could pull a Punisher and do a semi reboot.
Michael Galusick - 9/24/2009, 5:42 PM
how about josh harnett
kyle dalton - 9/24/2009, 5:44 PM
The question then, Mr. Galusick, is would MCD be willing to wear blue contacts and caucasian make up to play the role? I think that's a fair trade off. All the fan boys get their white kingpin and still keep the enormity of MCD. Hey, Eddie Murphy's been doing that shit for years! ^_^
BillyBlack - 9/24/2009, 5:47 PM
@Billy You thought Constantine was a bad movie? Wow, you're one of the few I've heard say that. I'm not a fan of Keanu except for Constantine and The Matrix

You colored up Liv's face? Well at least you found a way entertain yourself :)

Regarding the Bixby "dentist chair" (LOL that was good, I just had to laugh at the comparison) that was used also used in TIH, I think it was a good modernization of the Hulk origin. When Hulk originally came out in the 60's it made sense to use a "gamma-bomb" scenario, it sounded highly dangerous and very sci-fi. Nowadays, general audiences know enough about bombs and radiation that Banner running 50 feet out of a bomb shelter to push a kid into a ditch wouldn't have worked. Now, Banner experimenting on himself with gamma technology is not only more believable, but stays true to Stan Lee's vision of a Dr. Jekyll comparison to Banner. that is the kind of modernization these CBM movies need, while staying true to the essence of the story. . in my opinion :)
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 6:17 PM
Statham or Hall would be good. Hated Michael Duncan Clark as Kingpin.
mgauge - 9/24/2009, 6:19 PM
Multi, sorry dude, but if you liked Punisher Warzone i will certainly question your reasons for liking a CBM. You will probably come back with how it was faithful to the comics. Yeah, a comic about a dude who loses his family and goes on a killing spree is kinda hard to deviate from..despite the fact that Micro was killed??? Have you read Punisher? Not that faithful after all. THEN we have the piss poor acting, dialog, direction, "plot"...is that even a factor for you? Warzone was one of the worst [frick]ing movies i have ever seen..period!

Billy, I actually l; liked Constantine too! I know it seemed to rape the shit out of Hellblazer, but aside from the setting change and obvious difference in Reeve's look to the JH from the comics, it was actually pretty faithful character wise.
Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 6:25 PM
THOMAS JANE FOR DD
Weiner123 - 9/24/2009, 6:34 PM
@Ror: "Warzone was one of the worst [frick]ing movies i have ever seen..period!" Exactly. That YOU'VE seen. I thought it was a decent flick. If that causes you to question my "reasons for liking a CBM" period, I don't really care. It's my opinion, not yours. And I will never force you to sit down and watch PWZ with me. You can argue till you're blue in the face, but PWZ was faithful to the comics. That being said, I am a firm believer that the Punisher story is next to impossible to put on film. To do the story any justice they would need an HBO or Showtime mini-series, especially if they focused on the MAX story line.
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 6:37 PM
@ Weiner123: "THOMAS JANE FOR DD" they should have brought him back as the Punisher instead of making that piece of $#!% War Zone! I think Michael C Hall is probably the best one mentioned so far. Leave Elektra out of this one and have Karen Page as the love interest. I did like Jon Favreau as Foggy Nelson in the first one...heck, he did such a good job directing Iron Man, they should let him direct DD. Favreau could also tie DD in with the other Marvel movies and have Black Widow (Johannson) make a cameo. Do the first film as an origin and have the Hand in it. Then use the "Daredevil: Born Again" story as a follow up sequel. Have the Kingpin as the main villain, with a hired hand like Mr. Fear or something in the first one
Agent13 - 9/24/2009, 6:52 PM
@Agent13 Read my DD re-cast at Fan Fic, I think we're on the same page regarding the story line :)
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 6:56 PM
Trust me dude, I have seen A LOT of movies. I made the point because it seems funny to me that you could cal Ang Lee's Hulk "The epitome of bad direction and acting" and then call Borezone a "decent flick". Are you actually suggesting you found that grade z amateur, serial box acting and direction better than Hulk? Your clearly dismissive of any CBM that takes liberties with the source material. Personally I prefer actual competent movie making over rigid faithfulness any day of the week. After all, if you can name me a movie that is 100% faithful to either a book or a comic, well, you can't!
Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 6:58 PM
I like Punisher Warzone and i think its was far better than that Effing Stinkerine:Snorigins . I also like Daredevil... it wasnt great , but it was a good cbm. BUt either way i would love a ReBoot , i like reboots cuz it is like changing writers and Illustrators in our favorite comics. I like that too. So this is good for me. I still want Eddy Nort back as the Inc. Hulk though for reals .

@BillyBlack- that post pack up there was crazy funny yo!
shibazz - 9/24/2009, 6:59 PM
I like Punisher Warzone and i think its was far better than that Effing Stinkerine:Snorigins . I also like Daredevil... it wasnt great , but it was a good cbm. BUt either way i would love a ReBoot , i like reboots cuz it is like changing writers and Illustrators in our favorite comics. I like that too. So this is good for me. I still want Eddy Nort back as the Inc. Hulk though for reals .

@BillyBlack- that post pack up there was crazy funny yo!
shibazz - 9/24/2009, 6:59 PM
Ah Shibazzywazzy you Warzone defending nut! That and Snoregins will forever be pretty much our only disagreement. I dunno, I recognize all the flaws in Wolverine but they still don't out way the absolute failure of Warzone to connect with a movie fan on any level except extreme violence. That script actually made my mate spit at the screen at one point.
Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 7:07 PM
Nothing is wrong with Ben Affleck, I think he played him good, not perfect, but good enough. As for the next movie, just bring him back and get a better director and story this time.
Timerider84 - 9/24/2009, 7:09 PM
@Ror Do you know what the REAL problem is regarding Punisher movies? Dolph did his bit people weren't happy because he didn't have the skull. T. Jane tossed in his lot and people were mad that the origin was changed and the violence was toned down. So. . . they tried to listed to fans when they came up with PWZ: violence, violence, more violence and the real origin. Stevenson did Punisher: War Zone and now all the same people that were DYING for a hard-R movie similar to a MAX storyline, say that it was crap. Was the acting weak? Yes. Was the plot thin? Yes. But was the most faithful of the three to the comics? You can't deny that. I didn't like that they killed Micro, made Soap into a walking abortion or gave Jigsaw a terrible NYC gomba accent.

Did you ever read the original script for the 2004 Punisher movie? It had Micro, the "battle van" , Jigsaw and the origin spot on. When Artisan was bought out by Lions Gate, they forced a script change to completely change the character to not make the story so 'dark and gritty'. Ergo, even the location was changed from NYC to Tampa, FL.
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 7:11 PM
[frick] MICHAEL CLARKE DUNCAN.

Vincent D'Onofrio would be much better and it's not because he is white...it's because he CAN ACT!!!

If I were to choose another big black man who CAN ACT, it wouldn't be MCD, it would be Idris Elba
Quagmire14 - 9/24/2009, 7:15 PM
I'm not in the debate... But I'll take a shot.
Dark Knight?
Spiderman?
Spiderman2?
300?
Watchmen?
How's my aim?? @Ror...(and please, don't baste me!!)

Multi@ your right...Warzone was true to the character Frank!! And prefer him over the 2004 version...
Minotauro - 9/24/2009, 7:16 PM
But Im not denying that it was faithful for the most part, Im merely saying that alone does not make a good movie. Are you telling me you sat there watching Warzone thinking

"My God, I have seen more convincing performances from set designs, better dialog from pull string teddy bears, more competent direction from a 7 year old at a tea party...But woah! He blew that dudes head off just like the comic!"

[frick] that shit.

Minotauro, I said 100% faithful! A movie does not exist that is because..its a movie! and a comic is a comic. Are some more faithful than others? Of course they are, but why cry foul over one and accept another? Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. And incidentally, I can name at least 5 major ways all of the movie you mention differ from their sources. Let me know if you want me to:)

Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 7:21 PM
Sorry luffy, Craig is all wrong for Daredevil. He's an incredible actor, but he doesn't fit DD at all. Now Aquaman on the other hand....... :)
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/24/2009, 7:25 PM
@luffycapri

Daniel Craig is way too big to be Daredevil. Daredevil has to be like a skinny ninja guy. Daniel Craig looks like he'd be a bruiser type of character.

In fact, I bet if he gained enough weight (or at least gave him a fat suit), he could make a decent Kingpin.
MovieTheaterLad - 9/24/2009, 7:29 PM
@Ror Dude, you're bashing Minotauro for liking one movie over another?? C'mon, everyone has their likes and dislikes. Every CB fan has aspects of the stories they like that they would not forsake for a film. "Why cry foul over one and accept another"? Because our opinions vary from story to story and from movie to movie.

As for what I was thinking when I watched PWZ? Basically it was a mix of "Damn that was bloody!", "Damn that was sick!" and "Damn. . . that was pretty lame." More than I can say for when I saw Hulk or Daredevil. But again, try to remember, my opinions are not yours.
MultiPurposePoni - 9/24/2009, 7:29 PM
JASON STATHAM IS WHO THEY WERE EYEING...THOMAS JANE WASNT A BAD PUNISHER, HE MIGHT WORK BUT HE DOESNT LOOK LIKE THE LIMBER TYPE
GUNSMITH - 9/24/2009, 7:41 PM
i think that josh duhamel or gabriel macht would be good as ol' hornhead
batcavepwnsphonebooth - 9/24/2009, 8:09 PM
Ryan Reynolds as DD? Come on now Green Lantern, Deedpool and DD. How about No! I would go for daniel craig for sure, exseacilly after seeing him fight, I think he would be a good DD, plus he has the face for it.
CrashTest - 9/24/2009, 8:12 PM
Multi, Im not bashing anyone, Tauro takes exception to my opinion of certain movies, so I take exception to him taking exception! There is nothing worse than someone being critical of someone for being critical. Of course your right, it all comes down to opinions. But isn't that the purpose of a debate? I'm not telling you or anyone they are wrong, Im just trying to decipher logical reasons and arguments. I give these things to back up my opinions. I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how Punisher Warzone is a better movie than either Hulk or Daredevil

"Damn that was bloody!", "Damn that was sick!" and "Damn. . . that was pretty lame." More than I can say for when I saw Hulk or Daredevil. But again, try to remember, my opinions are not yours."

I know that broheem! I just want valid arguments. Especially after you admit Warzone was slame..but thats more than you can say for the others..soooo, they weren't lame? I'm confused;) You don't HAVE to explain to me why you enjoyed that cluster [frick] movie more then DD or Hulk, I'm just curious...

Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 8:31 PM
i kinda like the jude law idea.
ill go with him and mc hall
i think the should make DD the same way they did watchmen or 300 that would be sick. and get milla johnavich as elecktra
himynameiszach - 9/24/2009, 8:38 PM
Hulk wasn't true to the character...DD tried to be but sucked...and yeah P: Warzone isn't shakespeare but it is true to what the Punisher is about and it is badass...more than Thomas Jane Punisher.

Personally, I think Thomas Jane was better but that the writting was off...all that planning and scheming that Thomas Jane was doing to John Travolta IS NOT THE PUNISHER...He is the "punisher" not the "scheming bitch". That's why Punisher Warzone is better than Hulk, DD, and the Fantastic Fours...but thats not saying much...all and all it was alright...

...and Dominic West as Jigsaw was a more threatening villain than all those shitty cbm villains combined.
Quagmire14 - 9/24/2009, 8:56 PM
Holy Shite ppl...so you all have differing opinions on what is good and bad! That is life, and an opinion is just that. But let's be realistic here, there will never be a movie that is 100% accurate to the source material of a comic - for a multitude of reasons. In MY OPINION the best CBM's are the ones that combine a great story, with good acting and also being reasonably faithful to source, a few deviations permitted to allow for the different medium, providing they are not too outrageous. In a perfect world, where movies were not made by a business that wants to make money, then we might see something closer to what the comics are, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.
scribe - 9/24/2009, 8:59 PM
Dominic West was a [frick]ing joke in that movie. He was like a Dick Tracy villain.

And how was Hulk not true to the character?? A man becomes a monster and struggles with keeping the beast at bay while partly reveling in the freedom he feels while changed. Lee's movie captured that much a hell of a lot batter than Leterrier's, and that I'm sure you will agree is the basic Jekyl and Hyde principal that the character was created on. He also jumps miles in the air..his preferred mode of transportation in the comic...something he does not do in TIH.
Rorschach01 - 9/24/2009, 9:04 PM
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