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Here Is Your Spider-Man 4 Rumor Rundown!

The good folks at UGO.com have compiled a list of what is fact and fiction for the wall crawlers 4th outing.
I love rumor rundowns. You get to read what is really going on and then you also get to see what is complete BS. Many thanks to UGO for providing the info for this installment of "Jman's Rumor Rundown"!

"Confirmed:

Spider-Man 4 will begin shooting in March 2010 with Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst signed on to star. (MTV)

It will be released on May 5, 2011 in theaters and IMAX. (Comingsoon.net)

The first draft of the script was written by James Vanderbilt (Zodiac) and rewritten by Pulitzer winner David Lindsay-Abaire (Robots). A new draft will be written by Gary Ross (Seabiscuit, Pleasantville). (IGN)

James Vanderbilt has also been hired to pen a Spidey 5 & 6. (MTV)

Raimi is planning a smaller, intimate movie using skills and sensibilities he picked up on Drag Me to Hell. This means less villains then Spider-Man 3. (Coventry Telegraph)

Producer Todd Black says the villain will be "a big part of New York" and that he/she will be one of the bad guys from the comics, not an original for the film. (NY Post)

J.K. Simmons will return as J. Jonah Jameson. (MTV)

Dylan Baker will return as Dr. Curt Connors, who many know as the alter-ego of Spidey villain The Lizard.

Rumor:

Could Carnage end up in Spider-Man 4? Or maybe he'll make an appearance in Venom or his own movie? (MTV)

Bruce Campbell, who has appeared in all of Raimi's Spider-Man films, may play a "major role" in the next installment, who some speculate could be Mysterio. (Access Hollywood)

During a Q&A at Wizard World, actor Michael Papajohn, who played the mugger who kills Uncle Ben in the first film, said he would be reprising his role in the new installment. (Comingsoon.net)

Spider-Man 4 could tie into the writer/director Gary Ross' own Venom movie. (MTV)

The Lizard could end up being the movie's only villain. (Marketsaw)

Willem Dafoe has ideas on how he could return to the franchise, but hasn't gotten a call. (MTV)

Debunked:

Producer Todd Black says the film will not feature the wedding of Peter Parker and Mary Jane. (NY Post)

The villain will not be Morbius the vampire (NY Post)"

And there you have it. Personally I think Raimi would be committing moviedom suicide if he does not use The Lizard. I mean come on? It would only make sense. The Dr. Curt Conner's character is ready to go. Slap your momma and let's bring it on!!!

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135 Comments

Great article jman1977!

I really dont get why The Lizard is such a popular choice just because Connor has had a minor part in the last two movies!

I'd much prefer to see villains like Electro or Scorpion with Lizard as a minor villain!
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 9:34 AM
cool
Ryden - 11/5/2009, 9:34 AM
surely "a big part of new york" would have to be kingpin related. tho a rumor is a rumor
lvlheaded - 11/5/2009, 9:38 AM
Josh@ Electro is just a crappy theif lol :P



teabag - 11/5/2009, 9:38 AM
the lizard is epic and I really hope he has a major part
he could carry the movie but i think the best idea ive heard was he Kraven hunts Lizard and inexplicitly ends up hunting Spiderman as well
thanks for the rundown jman, you own this site now sir
realfirstavenger - 11/5/2009, 9:39 AM
joshw24- If they depict Electro similar to how he was in Mark Millar's run on Spiderman I think it would be visually great. I lke the idea of having Scorpion though. Depending on how they use the Lizard I think it could be killer.
ironknight27 - 11/5/2009, 9:39 AM
I wonder when we will get our first bit of Cap news LOL!:P
DarthMulder - 11/5/2009, 9:39 AM
Two villains can work in a movie, it just has to make sense.The Lizard/Kraven combo is a perfect mix.Predator/Hunter.With Spider-Man in the middle.He wants to stops the Lizard, but at the same time he wants to prevent Kraven from killing him.

I like the Lizard, but can they sustain the movie if he's the sole villain?Will he be just a mindless monster?Will he have Conners' personality?Will he have a villainous plot in the movie, or will Spider-Man just need to stop him from destroying the city?
kenny38606 - 11/5/2009, 9:40 AM
oh and Bruce Campbell kicks so much ass
if he was the villian it would give the movie automatic credibility in my opinion
realfirstavenger - 11/5/2009, 9:40 AM
Stilt Man!
imnotwearinghockeypants - 11/5/2009, 9:44 AM
@jman Great article
tyko450 - 11/5/2009, 9:44 AM
realfirstavenger- I think that they should give Bruce a bigger role after being in all of the movies thus far.
ironknight27 - 11/5/2009, 9:44 AM
JoshW, read Spiderman 1-4 from the 90's. It's a great lizard story and features some of Todd McFarlane's kick ass work before he became a wierdo that spends a crapton on a baseball. The story showcases why the Lizard is awesome.
Tobuttica - 11/5/2009, 9:44 AM
JMAN @ You should DELETE JOSH, coz he deletes ppl now!!!

: D

Just joking! ; D

Great stuff @ JMAN!!!!

We still need GERARD BUTLER up there as KRAVEN lol!
LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 9:45 AM
Tobuttica@ exactly :)
teabag - 11/5/2009, 9:50 AM
teabag: Lizard is just a 6ft gecko in a lab coat, lol! ;)

ironknight27: Yeah, Miller's run on Spider-Man was excellent and thats exactly how Electro should be portrayed on the big screen! Just imagine how visually exciting a Spider-Man vs. Electro fight would be!
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 9:53 AM
LEE: You wrote like 5 comments saying you were going to comment later, lol! You cant blame me! :D Still, you've left a comment now so I wont delete it...promise!
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 9:54 AM
ironknight, exactly. Hes going to have a part either way and if there is a role that would suit him why not give it to him
i think he would be a great Mysterio, but i dont think the character would translate well into the movie
especially if hes trying to keep the number of villians down, just mysterio would be weak
the lizard is terrifying and bad ass
realfirstavenger - 11/5/2009, 9:54 AM
I think the Lizard would be alright but if the villian will "be a big part of NYC" then I doubt it would be Lizard. I'm not sure who he's refering to as the villian.

I mainly blame Sony pictures for Spiderman 3 being mediocre. They pushed for Venom when in all honesty the story line with Venom could have been a movie all in itself. I think it would have been amazing with just Sandman and the new Goblin. I do understand why they made Harry Osbourne a villian. He was conflicted and betrayed by somebody who he considered his best friend.

FlashThompson - 11/5/2009, 9:55 AM
Iv got those books that Tobuttica is talking about and if you have not given them a read you def should. Lee your right! if they are going to have two villains then one has to play off the other. We need Kraven to hunt the lizard then you have your tie in, just like kenney said. I say leave Venom out of it unless your going to devote the screen time you need to accurately portray Venom, if not, leave it alone, nuff said.
jman1977 - 11/5/2009, 9:56 AM
JOSH @ Lol! ; D



I was doing some PAINTING!! : D
LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 9:56 AM
JMAN @ Hell yeah and ive got them comics too a great read!! ; )

An kudos, VENOM & CARNAGE should stay in the VENOM spin off.
LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 9:58 AM
Josh@ .....



....Electro gets his ass kicked by everyone in the Marvel universe...thats right..everyone lol



teabag - 11/5/2009, 9:59 AM
Why people think only about Kingpin, when it says the movie will have a great connection with NY, it could be Hammershead or Tombstone, as the crime boss, I hope to see at leat a cameo of Black Cat, she is working for one of them
brazilianbatman - 11/5/2009, 10:01 AM
Good idea, jman1977, I think. Too much noise often; good to discriminate the disinformation.

I like Spidey. He is a nice guy. We need more nice guys.

Greetings.
RandomHerm - 11/5/2009, 10:01 AM
I have no problem with two villains in one movie. That was the one facet of Spider-Man 3 that I liked. It had a "Marvel Team-Up" flavor to it that I thought was cool. Two heroes facing off against two villains makes one epic battle. It sounds as though he is scaling this one down a bit. Better have a strong script.
niknik - 11/5/2009, 10:03 AM
now now josh and leee
be good boys rember
its soon x mass lmao

lc - 11/5/2009, 10:03 AM
Vulture was suppost to be in Spiderman 3, unstead of Venom, people wouldn't care if he was only 10 minutes
Venom was misused like Cyclops and Deadpool
brazilianbatman - 11/5/2009, 10:05 AM
I think Raimi shoud use his abilities to make horror movies, and make Spiderman 4 darker and scary and more mature, use Lizard in a right way, making him a scary creature, killing people in the city
Unable to kill his proffessor, Peter is severly injured, then guess who they call to hunt the monster down?
KRAVEN
brazilianbatman - 11/5/2009, 10:10 AM


Lmao @ TEA @ lc! ; D
LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 10:11 AM
It's GOT to be the Lizard. They gave it away by saying the villain is a "big part of NY" because of all the urban legends about there being alligators in the sewers of NY. It's the Lizard, I'm telling you!
Bamf7 - 11/5/2009, 10:13 AM
LEE: Haha, great pic! Just left you a reply, lol!

teabag: LMAO! Lizard hasnt had his ass kicked by everyone in the Marvel Universe...didnt Tony Stark keep him as a pet for a little while though..? ;D

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joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 10:14 AM
A big part on New York? Didnt Electro once hook into NY's power grid? :)
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 10:15 AM
I would love to see The Lizard as the main villian. I can think of a number of ways to really use The Lizard as the main antagonist. Lizard is waaaaay better villian than Electro. Besides, I think The Lizard, or rather his mutated DNA, can have implications for Spider-Man into the 5th film. Don't forget that Spider-Man is alot about the science aspect as well.

6of13 - 11/5/2009, 10:16 AM
Josh/LEEE@ lol

Electro is as scary as Mumra in a stallone movie...




:D


6of13@ Hell yeah Lizard is better :)
teabag - 11/5/2009, 10:16 AM
Lmao @ TEA 'n' JOSH!! ; D



I think we're going around in circles with these reptle jokes!! KERMIT say's STOP!! : P
LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 10:27 AM
i think spiderman 3 had way too many villians. The lizard could take an entire movie. But it would make more sense to add Kraven the hunter in there. Infact it makes more sense than having the 3 characters that they put together for the last movie. If they were going to do sandman they should of had hydroman thus making it for a predictable but easy way of making their collective defeat. I don't know why they had to have sandman as his uncles killer. It didn't fit. Plus there wasn't any true character developement for any of the characters except for Osbourne. The didn't go into sandman learning his abilities. They really didn't explain Venom at all.

The fourth one has to redeem the third.

schuellerdg - 11/5/2009, 10:32 AM
LEEE@ lol Emma agrees :P





teabag - 11/5/2009, 10:33 AM
TEABAG @ BWAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHA!!! : D
LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 10:39 AM
@Josh - No offense...but there has never really been a good story with Electro as a character. I like him too, but the emotional story that accompanies the Lizard is much better. Yes, Electro did plug into the power grid once, but I'm not talking about stories in comics...I mean the urban legend of alligators in the sewers already exists here in the real world, therefore it's a big part of NY.

I would like to see another villain other than the Lizard as well, even if just for a bit...but I gotta say I really think they're gonna go with the Lizard on this one!
Bamf7 - 11/5/2009, 10:42 AM
I'm not sure that the Lizard alone would intrigue the general public. They probably haven't even paid much attention to his brief appearances to considered Dr. Conner's transformation epic.

Maybe if you throw into the mix Kraven (Gerald Butler?), then maybe Spidey 4 has something good brewing.




soforizo - 11/5/2009, 11:01 AM
Bamf7: I take no offence because you arent wrong! Miller did a decent job with the character but he's otherwise never been given more thats made him anything other than a B list villain! :(

Personally, Id like Scorpion as the main villain and whilst he's still a PI looking into Spider-Man's identity for Jonah, Lizard could be a minor villain!
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 11:06 AM
The lizard has been around longer than Electro,Kraven or Scorpy...he deserves a whole movie :P
teabag - 11/5/2009, 11:09 AM
teabag & LEE: LMAO! Still cant see this guy making a good villain though! ;)

teaseatyourperil
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 11:12 AM
both electro and scorpion are more minor characters compared to lizard.
CorndogBurglar - 11/5/2009, 11:13 AM
@ Tea: I agree.

Also that Mum-ra thing was pretty bizarre indeed. Your grasp of polular media never fails to astound me
DarthMulder - 11/5/2009, 11:17 AM
I googled spiderman 4 and found this. Btw I finally figured out how to post pics! I took me months to figure out, im a noob what can i say.

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SHHH - 11/5/2009, 11:20 AM
Josh@ lmao

CD@ Hell yeah :P

Darth@ lol



teabag - 11/5/2009, 11:21 AM
GUNSMITH'S GUESS=IT'S GOING TO BE THE LIZARD, BRUCE CAMPBEL WILL PLAY SOMEONE THAT TIES ALL HIS APPEARANCES TOGETHER.
GUNSMITH - 11/5/2009, 11:23 AM
Okay, I have been waiting to post my opinion on the Spiderman 4 film for awhile. So here goes....
I am not thrilled with the Lizard or Kraven in the franchise, but if it can be presented in the hunter/predator concept I can live with that. Hey, I would even agree with Josh about Scorpion. There are alot of B and C-list villians to choose from, just don't care for most of them. Electro, Mysterio, Carnage, Tombstone, Kingpin, Vulture ehhhhh.
Okay, now for the controversial statement- bring back Norman Osborne! Its been done how many times in the comic and now Norman is pretty much running the country. They can say he survived in seclusion due to the "goblin serum." Have him be the man behind the scenes of the main conflict- don't reveal him until the very end (or just the suggestion that he is still out there pulling strings). Its plausible and fits into the Marvel world. That's just my two cents.
Synestro40 - 11/5/2009, 11:24 AM
Synestro@ while i agree having Norman back would be awesome id also hate for him to turn into the new Magneto...i.e the only villain we see and overused :)
teabag - 11/5/2009, 11:26 AM
@SHHH: those are the worst boobs I've seen in a while..
spiderman1985 - 11/5/2009, 11:28 AM
Found a nice Spiderman 4 fan-made for the lizard i hope nobody has posted this pic before.


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SHHH - 11/5/2009, 11:35 AM
CDB: I have to disagree with you there - Id say that Lizard was much more of a minor villain in comparison to Electro or Scorpion! Scorpion is still around as the new Venom and Electro has been around a fair bit in recent comic books! I cant remember the last tim I saw Lizard apart from in Paul Jekins' crappy run on Spectacular Spider-Man! And every time I've seen him (either in all of the various animated series or various Marvel universes) its the same old thing with the character!

teabag: Lol, Lizard was only introduced 3 issues before Electo! :P

Synestro40: Yeah, I'd definitely like to see Norman back as well but maybe not until the end of 4 and then carry on the story in Spider-Man 5!
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 11:35 AM
I really want them to bring gwen back for this next film
Evil1991 - 11/5/2009, 11:35 AM
spiderman1985

I apologize for bad boobs lol :}
SHHH - 11/5/2009, 11:37 AM
Tea I'm going to wet myself laughing so hard. Looks like toy boobs.
Stubbyswof - 11/5/2009, 11:37 AM
Synestro40

I Love your norman osborne idea.
SHHH - 11/5/2009, 11:39 AM
It would be nice if Dunst was in the debunked section. Worst choice for MJ ever.
Stubbyswof - 11/5/2009, 11:40 AM
Boobs should be checked for realism lol




:P
teabag - 11/5/2009, 11:44 AM
SHHH @ Lmao! And cool pics!!

JOSH @ TEA @ ; D

I told ya all these LIZARD jokes, we're going around in circles here!!



LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 11:46 AM
TEA @ Ive got that one too lol! : D
LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 11:47 AM
Producer Todd Black says the villain will be "a big part of New York".....Oh snap the effin villian is Rudy Giuliani.
Killian - 11/5/2009, 11:48 AM
LEEE@ lol the boinging hypmotises me :D
teabag - 11/5/2009, 11:49 AM
looks like the guy doing the checking isn't buying it..
spiderman1985 - 11/5/2009, 11:54 AM
Lizard would be cool if they made him vaguely Jeckyl and Hyde-like, changing the character back and forth Peter trying to help save him but also having to fight him. Plus you could make the Lizard form massive, a kind of killer croc but with sweet regeneration so he just keeps coming back.
JerusalemJr - 11/5/2009, 11:56 AM
okay it's the last one i'm posting, im hoping this what spiderman 4 is

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SHHH - 11/5/2009, 11:59 AM
A little off topic (sort of) guys but have any of you seen this new teaser for Siege!?! Looks pretty [frick]ing awesome to me! :D

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joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 12:03 PM
I like that i want that for a poster.
SHHH - 11/5/2009, 12:04 PM
Cool :)
teabag - 11/5/2009, 12:07 PM
i dont think the amount of villians makes or breaks the movie, its all about how they tie the story together. i would love to see the lizard being hunted by kraven or the scorpion. and i dont even consider black cat a "villian" so put her in it too!!!! spidey needs some sexiness in this movie and kirsten dunst aint it!!!!when all hell breaks loose that little piece of symbiote has to come in to play at some point. i thought scorpion (mac gargan) getting the symbiote makes perfect sense because *TADA* thats what happens in the comics. and then bring back norman osbourne to reveal hes been pulling the strings all along! it cant get any worse than SM3!!!!
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 12:09 PM
Oh and Bendis also had this to say..."With Norman running around with all of his machinations, you can't forget that there's no more important clash for Norman than Norman vs. Spider-Man. I think fans should expect a clash between the Green Goblin and Spider-Man and they will get it."

I cant wait! :)
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 12:10 PM
whoa josh that is sweet!!!!! i love the direction of the dark reign lately. did you see Norman almost beat Tony Stark to death? we all know whats gonna happen next.... Cap and Thor comin back for an Avengers Reunion!!!!
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 12:12 PM
i hope it is Spidey who finally takes down Norman, except not as the Iron Patriot.... Osbourne will don the green and purple one more time for the final showdown!!!!
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 12:13 PM
its nice to come across someone on this site who is up to date with the books!
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 12:14 PM
Norman's world is going to hell in a hand basket, its been a fun read but i'm ready for the trio to get back together.
Stubbyswof - 11/5/2009, 12:17 PM
Makiveli21: Yeah, the finale of 'World's Most Wnated' was amazing...the ending especially with Osborn saying, "Who the hell is Dr. Donald Blake ?" - that was awesome!!! :) Im hoping that it ends with Spidey vs Osborn as well - it just wont be the same if its anyone else!
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 12:17 PM
why Is eveyone still "trying to find ways to bring any type of symbiote back, it wont happen! ELECTRO IS AN AWESOME VILLIAN, HIS FIRST COMIC COVER IS ICONIC. BUT THE SCORPION WILL GIVE THE MOVIE A BETTER PLOT...ELECTRO (MINOR) AND SCORPION (MAJOR) FOR SPIDER-MAN 5. 4 WILL MAKE MONEY IF THE LIZARD/KRAVEN STORY IS TOLD. LET 5'S "OVERLINING PLOT THEME" BE RAGE! LOOK AT THOSE 2 VILLIANS, SCORPION AND ELECTRO CAN ILLUSTRATE THE THEME PERFECTLY, (ELECTRO FIERY, ELECTRIC TEMPER), (SCORIPN'S RAGE AT WANTING TO BE TOUGH, JONAH'S RAGE AT SPIDEY SO HE GETS MAC GOING AS THE SCORPION, AND SCORPIONS BERSERKER RAGE TEARING NY APART TRYING TO FACE SPIDER-MAN)
dellamorte1872 - 11/5/2009, 12:19 PM
Oh, and heres another one! :D

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Anyone else read Dark Reign The List: Punisher yet? (SPOILER) The ending with Frank Castle's death was unbelievable!!! Im gonna have to start buying that series!(END SPOILER)
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 12:22 PM
I USED TO PURCHASE MORE TITLES BUT NOW I ONLY BUY, UNCANNY X-MEN, X-FORCE, GREEN LANTERN, HULK (TILL THE IDENTITY OF RULK IS REVEALED), AND DARK AVENGERS (WHICH IS DISSAPOINTING AFTER "THE SEIGE" I'M DROPPING THAT TITLE TOO).
dellamorte1872 - 11/5/2009, 12:27 PM
It looks like we are in for some epic battles during siege.

Stubbyswof - 11/5/2009, 12:29 PM
Good finds there Josh :)
teabag - 11/5/2009, 12:35 PM
Cheers teabag! :)
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 12:39 PM
yes the lizard is in the house
Marvel Rules - 11/5/2009, 12:40 PM
hey hey hey im kermit lol
Fartman - 11/5/2009, 12:53 PM
FARTMAN @ Lol!! ; D




LEEE777 - 11/5/2009, 12:56 PM
Definitely have to with Lizard as the villain. Carnage would also be cool, but he'd probably work better in the Venom movie (i still don't see how that movie's going to work). Maybe have Mysterio or Scorpion. A cameo of Shocker would be cool, where Spidey comes and beats the crap out of him in ten seconds.
SithforHire - 11/5/2009, 1:07 PM
Lizard and Kraven. Best possible way for the movie to go IMO.

Lizard brings emotional weight and depth to a movie, creating a tragic character who you feel sympathy for, making Spidey's conflict complex. Lizard also would lend the movie another moral lesson/value that the previous Spidey movies have encompassed in their overall theme/story.

Not to mention he'd be a kick ass effect and would be a great fight to see.

Kraven keeps things interesting, by shaking Spidey's conflict up, making Peter have to re-think his game-plan and giving the audience an obvious villain, since I don't like it when movies like this don't have a clear baddie.

The film-makers could also give Kraven tons of creative traps (as seen in the Spider-Man games) and weapons to keep Spidey guessing and off Kraven's back.

Just my 2 cents.

And Gerard Butler for Kraven ;)
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/5/2009, 1:12 PM
Now i got it! Bruce Campbell is Kraven!!... OUH MY GOD!!! Bruce Campbell is Kraven?!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

By the way creepy picture you got there LEEE777

KERMIT RULES!

AlexDeLarge666 - 11/5/2009, 1:14 PM
as long as if they do lizard they use the same concept as they did the Lycans in Underworld not just a 100% CG Lizard.
DTLSinger - 11/5/2009, 1:16 PM
He is planning multiple movies, maybe Bruce will be playing Mysterio and be setting the badies against Spidey in the first couple and then a showdown in the last one.
JerusalemJr - 11/5/2009, 1:18 PM
I think the villains in Spider-man 4 should be the Lizard and Morbius. The storyline should be Neogenic Nightmare. Bruce Campbell should become the Scorpion for part 5!
Bud - 11/5/2009, 1:21 PM
Guys, dont forget to check out my ALPHA FLIGHT FAN CAST under "Fan Fic"!!! :)
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 1:21 PM
I wonder how Ares is gonna feel about Norman attempting to take Asgard? I would love to see Thor come back and kick some serious ass!!!
Daken and Wolverine are going to have to settle this father/son beef and i think one has to die to do so.... Has anyone seen "Romulous"? Wow!
I think Red Hulk is Doc Samson... and eventually he's gonna have to throwdown with Skaar.... did anyone read that last issue of Hulk where Daken offered Skaar a spot on the Dark Avengers?
Spidey has alot goin on himself with Norman, the Gauntlet, and even Kaine and clones!!!! There is so much going on!!!!

Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 1:25 PM
i like the Lizard and Kraven/Scorpion, but BLACK CAT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS MOVIE! SEX SELLS!!!!
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 1:27 PM
Makiveli21: I havent been reading Hulk mainly because I hate Jeph Loeb and his poor writing (thats my opinion anyway, lol) I actually stopped reading Wolverine Origins after the Deadpool arc because I just got frustrated with the direction it was going - when the serie began I was hoping for the character origins from the very beginning rather than the mess its turned into! I did find the Romulus thing really intersting though so I'll catch up with the graphic novels! I buy pretty much every other Marvel title apart from ome of the X-Men books (I stick with just Uncanny and Astonishing) Invincible Iron Man, Amazing Spider-Man, Daredevil and Captain America: Reborn are the ones that Im hooked on most at the moment! :)
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 1:31 PM
I thought it was so cool in the beginning of Wolverine Origins, when Logan gets his memories back and goes to the White House to get some answers and the Presidents security are like "sir, we have a problem... Logan got his memories back..." and the President is basically like "oh shit." The Deadpool arc was CLASSIC!!!! those two beat the hell out of each other for like 6 straight issues!!! But my favorite was when Wolvie took Sabretooths head off with the Murumasa Blade! and now Daken has the Blade grafted to his claws!!! I cant wait to see how the whole Romulous thing plays out. Did you see what he looks like?
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 1:52 PM
i know we're a little off topic but at least we're not posting kermit the frog pics so im ok with it
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 1:53 PM
I think they should do a new villian just made for the movie. A villian names "Rosham Beau" all he does is kick people in the nuts with the help of a magical toe ring, much like the Green Lantern's ring but the only thing his special toe ring can do are things involving kicking somebody in the junk. I think it's a helluva idea. I'll play him I'm [frick]ing crazy like that. His real name is Beau Rosham and he's an evil scientist inventor guy who was rich but then lost all of his money and his best idea is the nut kicking machine that he made because he was bullied in high school. You know like every other bad guy out there. Make this shit happen.
FlashThompson - 11/5/2009, 1:53 PM
Comics in general these days are kicking ass
There are just way too many titles to try and get them all
some of the best right now in my opinion are Invincible Iron Man, Thor (although I dont know how the new creative team will do), Green Lantern (and the corps and blackest night in general blows my mind. Smoke a joint and read the prologue and the first issue of darkest night, it blew my mind), batman and robin, secret warriors, plus others, I think i buy too many now :S

and I did pick up The List: Punisher mostly because it was written by Remender and the art of JRJR (who is my second favorite artist after the great Alex Ross) and it was CRAZY
i dont read the new punisher monthly but after that Im definately gonna pick up the TP
realfirstavenger - 11/5/2009, 1:54 PM
whats your thoughts on this whole Ben Reilly mess being re-opened? maybe they can straighten out some of the mistakes of the past...
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 1:55 PM
to get back on topic of the Spider-Man movies, i just want to reiterate, KIRSTEN DUNST DOES NOTHING FOR ME. i open up a Spidey comic and see MJ and im like "damn shes hot" then i pop in the movie and shes just BLAH! i see hotter chicks in the clubs in my town. shes supposed to be a SUPERMODEL NOT A SINGER IN A CAFE!!!! Tobey Maguire bores the hell outta me too. he's a whiney little sissy and peter parker is supposed to be a quick witted smart mouth charming dork. it sucks that were stuck with these two because these movies could have been so great.
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 2:01 PM
Realfirstavenger - your avatar kicks some asshole. Shaun of the Dead is probably one of my favorite movies.
FlashThompson - 11/5/2009, 2:04 PM
I have a younger brother that is into comics as much as me. I but half of most of marvel he buys the other half. It's great, we get to read all the stories for half price.
Stubbyswof - 11/5/2009, 2:05 PM
realfirstavenger: Yeah, I havent been reading it either but after that issue I'll also be picking up the back issues/tpb's!

Makiveli21: I never read the original Clone Sage but I've read all about it on Wikipedia, spiderfan.org etc and Im reading the Clone Saga mini series at the moment (not that impressed...the writing and art isnt that great) but the storyline in Amazing Spider-Man is pretty intersting, though I dont think its going to reveal any BIG suprises as such! Whats your take on Daredevil leading The Hand? I think it was a pretty interesting idea that could turn out to be pretty great..!


joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 2:06 PM
Also since people will probably skim over this anyway, I created a group of heroes a few years back while I was high and at work. I called them Codename:GROSS (Group of Reformed Outlaws Serving Society) led by Dr. Peter Chiez (who projects large amounts of cotton fuzzies that accumulate in your weiner while wearing whitey tighties.), Thunder (from Aulstrailia who has a utility taint belt where he grabs weapons and throws them from his crotch.), I forget the rest probably with just due reason because it's [frick]ing retarded. Although it does amuse me from time to time when I look at the drawings I kept, for some ungodly and unknown reason.
FlashThompson - 11/5/2009, 2:13 PM
Makiveli21: I completely agree which is why Bret Harrison should be cast as Peter Parker!!!

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joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 2:21 PM
you didnt read the clone saga?!?! the reinterpretation story that theyre telling now is WAY different. the thing people didnt like about the clone saga was that it was Ben who was the original and Pete was the clone. people were pissed that Pete and MJ moved to Portland (of all places) and Ben stayed in NY to be Spider-Man. But the way they spun it by bringing back Norman Osbourne from the dead to reveal he was pulling all the strings while hiding in Europe was AMAZING! havent you wondered how he came back or what happend to MJ being pregnant? "Revelations" was one of the greatest story arcs in the marvel universe ever. Pete comes back to NY and Norman shows up and tells him that he's the original and Bens the clone. Then Norman kills Ben the same way that he died (impaled by glider). and the book ends with MJ giving birth, but Norman switches the real baby with a dead one. so the clone saga sucked at first but if not for the clone saga Norman wouldnt have come back and the entire marvel universe as we know it would be completely different.
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 2:25 PM
Makiveli21: Yeah, I know the deatils because as I said, I've read the plot synopsis online but I was only 4 back in 1994 when it started!!! :D I only started reading comic books in 2001 but I've read almost every classic story via graphic novels - but for some reason the clone sagas never been reprinted.
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 2:30 PM
cool news
luffycapri - 11/5/2009, 2:32 PM
because people thought it was such a "stain" on the peter parker story, but its also very relevant to everything thats going on even today. but i guess "brand new day" wiped all that out right? pete and mj never got married therefore she was never pregnant and norman never switched the baby? oh crap i just confused myself LOL
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 2:36 PM
im only 23 so i was a little kid too but luckily i knew that stuff goin on with Spidey was big so i actually took really good care of those books and i have most of them in good condition to this day!
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 2:39 PM
i could play a better peter parker than tobey maguire!!!!
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 2:40 PM
Bret Harrison is the perfect Spider-Man. No doubt in my mind. He would completely own that part.


InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/5/2009, 2:40 PM
Makiveli21: Yeah, I've heard about what a mess it was with writers getting fired and all the fan backlash! Still, I would love to read the issue where Norman returns! Well, they say that everything still happenned but Peter and MJ just werent married which really is confusing and actually pretty idiotic, lol!
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 2:40 PM
TYLER: Hell yeah! :D Oh and check out my Alpha Flight fan cast when you get chance, lol! Im taking a break from them now - I've been doing one a day right and now Im out of ideas!
joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 2:42 PM
if they never got married though then she never got pregnant right? "peter parker:spider-man #75" its called "revelations" its the return of Green Goblin and the death of Ben Reilly and it has an awesome wrap around cover with Pete holding a beaten and battered Ben while fighting off the Goblin.
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 2:53 PM
The Lizard would be a great villain for Spidey 4, but not alone! There needs to be a second villain! Just having Spider-man deal with a primitive beast ain't enough! 2 villains is perfect! Having 3 villains in Spider-man 3 wasn't even a bad idea, but the story was!

So, for SM4, a good pair of villains could be:

1. The Lizard and Morbius
or 2. The Lizard and Electro
or 3. The Lizard and Kraven


Use Bruce Campbell as Scorpion for Spider-man 5!
And Scorpion is a good enough villain with an interesting enough story to be the only villain in the movie!
Bud - 11/5/2009, 3:42 PM
The Lizard would be a great villain for Spidey 4, but not alone! There needs to be a second villain! Just having Spider-man deal with a primitive beast ain't enough! 2 villains is perfect! Having 3 villains in Spider-man 3 wasn't even a bad idea, but the story was!

So, for SM4, a good pair of villains could be:

1. The Lizard and Morbius
or 2. The Lizard and Electro
or 3. The Lizard and Kraven


Use Bruce Campbell as Scorpion for Spider-man 5!
And Scorpion is a good enough villain with an interesting enough story to be the only villain in the movie!
Bud - 11/5/2009, 3:43 PM
Spidey 6 should feature the sinister six. But using no villains from previous movies!

My sinister six:
Shocker
Boomerang
Beetle
Mysterio
Hobgoblin
Hammerhead
Bud - 11/5/2009, 3:47 PM
I USED TO PURCHASE MORE TITLES BUT NOW I ONLY BUY, UNCANNY X-MEN, X-FORCE, GREEN LANTERN, HULK (TILL THE IDENTITY OF RULK IS REVEALED), AND DARK AVENGERS (WHICH IS DISSAPOINTING AFTER "THE SEIGE" I'M DROPPING THAT TITLE TOO).
dellamorte1872 - 11/5/2009, 4:18 PM
Josh@ were missing something.........


boobs...






oh and to keep it comic book related....







teabag - 11/5/2009, 4:19 PM
Here's an idea . Don't begin the introduction with the same old tired ass recap of the previous films but instead elude briefly to Brock/Venom being in different parts of the city and recovering from his wounds that he sustained due to the explosion at the end of Pt.3 and for fun have him roaming the city recovering his symbiote as if it were calling out to him since they are connected as one . Then start off with a bang !! A loud thunderous roar rangs out and echoes through the city shattering all the glass on every building in it's wake , show a city transportation bus go hurdling down the street in a ball of flames as a full scale Rhino and or Juggernaught stands in the midts of a giant heap of wreckage surrounded by smoke and fire calling out "Spiderman" !!! - as if it's a challenge . Have spidey swing into action and let the battle insue , of course spidey would be victorious but not until the brawl leaves him severely battered and bruised to the point where he barely hobbles away . Since they claim they're going "back to basics" , allow Peter Parkers healing time to shed light on the "Doc Conners scenario" allowing it to build toward a climax all the while introducing "Kraven" or "Doc Oc" re-emerging to for The Sinister Six" . Learn to leave room for cliffhangers , especially now that you know that after 4 there will be a 5 and 6 . You want to set up a "Venom : Lethal Protector movie " , do it a the beginning of Pt.6 and end Pt. 6 with "Venom" reluctantly coming to the aid of "Spiderman" because spidey is getting his ass handed to him by "Carnage" and there is your set up for the "Lethal Protector" series . The spidey series remains open for further installments if you want and a new chapter begins with "Venom" .
wussupman - 11/5/2009, 4:26 PM
No venom ;(
teabag - 11/5/2009, 4:39 PM
teabag: Good point, lol! :D

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joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 5:15 PM
one always looks bigger than the other...
Makiveli21 - 11/5/2009, 5:22 PM

teabag - 11/5/2009, 5:37 PM
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joshw24 - 11/5/2009, 7:39 PM
@Lee
i pissed my pants wen i saw tht last pic XD

now i i cant wait for spiderman 4. lizard and mysterio wuld be a pretty good fight for spidey, but im leaning towards lizard and kraven tho....
torched4 - 11/5/2009, 8:16 PM
keep pics like that comin.
4: Scorpion(main), rhino(secondary)
5: Lizard(main), Kraven(secondary)
6: Lizard(main), Chameleon(secondary)
7: Electro(main), Vulture(secondary)
8: Mysterio(main), Chameleon(secondary, gets ock tentacles)
9: Sinister Six. Doc Ock(Chameleon), Mysterio, Vulture, Electro, Sandman, and Grim Hunter(Alyosha,Kravens son)
10: part 2 of Sinister Six saga.
squirt - 11/5/2009, 8:42 PM
Its Lizard time =) If Raimi dosent.. I give up on the movie world. I love the Lizard and always have, having every single comic that the Lizard it is. Its about time he gets his limelight.
Alexander Bonner - 11/5/2009, 9:05 PM
Scropion would be a good choice. I'd like to see the Lizard as well though. Numerous villains is not a bad thing. Like anything else, it can be done right (The Dark Knight, X-men) or wrong ( Spiderman 3, Wolverine). I really think that just one Villain is not the way to go, especially if it is another tragic scientist story.
Ryguy88 - 11/5/2009, 9:38 PM
ALEX @ : D
LEEE777 - 11/6/2009, 9:10 AM
The Lizard and Kraven, with a little Black Cat thrown in for eye candy. Makes a perfect "NY tie-in" as mentioned above with the alligators in the sewers. Lizard can control reptiles in a certain radius, and Spidey can get swamped by "evil flocks of foul-smelling" gators as Lizard makes his escape, right into a trap set by Kraven.

And Kraven? Start him off wanting Lizard's head as a trophy, and realizing that using Lizard as bait, he can procure an even BETTER stuffed head for his collection: Spiderman.

Frankly, I wouldn't even mind a cliff-hanger into Spidey V, with Peter turning to the Venom symbiote in desperation...

I had hoped this would happen in the Iron Man 2 movie, with Stark getting whipped so badly he turns to Hulk for help, but Hulk turns out to be unstoppable after being so enraged by War Machine and Whiplash, so Stark is charged by SHIELD to finally pull together the only group who can defeat a fully enraged Hulk...

THE AVENGERS!

...then lead into Planet Hulk and World War Hulk, taking us into the 2020's...
bropous - 11/6/2009, 9:55 AM
LIZARD - KRAVEN is a perfect combination for SPIDERMAN, MORBIUS - KRAVEN TOO.
OSCURO - 11/7/2009, 1:01 PM

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