Sam Raimi Touts a Connection Between Spider-Man 4 and Venom Spin-Off

When the Venom Spin-off movie is released, will there be any connection with the "Spider-Man 4" universe? It seems Sam Raimi doesn't believe there will be.

Venom's character was revealed in "Spider-Man 3" in 2007...well sort of, because everyone has agreed he was thrown in at the last minute to adhere to the studio executives. This explains the horrible adaption of the villain. With his new spin-off film being released, eventually, it seems there won't be any connection between both universes when "Spider-Man 4" is released.

Thanks to MTV news for the audio clip.

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Whispers68: There's not much to the audio clip. Apparently the direction of the Venom spin-off won't create a bridge so to speak. It won't pick up/show some sort of connection with "Spider-Man 4" or what took place in "Spider-Man 3." Not major news, but news nonetheless.

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10/22/2009
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63 Comments

	For those of you who like me cant see this because you dont live in the US here is what Raimi is saying... "It hasn't come up to me," Raimi told MTV News when asked if the two characters will share a movie universe after Venom's introduction in "Spider-Man 3." "I think that the studio is just letting me work with the writers and trying to make the best stories possible for this universe," he added. "I don't know if Venom is a separate universe or not." joshw24 - 10/22/2009, 4:25 AM
	This really makes you appreciate Marvel Studios and the one movie universe they are trying to create. ViperXX79 - 10/22/2009, 5:12 AM
	I say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO connection!!! If VENOM is to be a good movie it cant be CONNECTED to RAIMI'S SPIDEY UNIVERSE! It should be a STAND ALONE movie!!! With KNEPPER as CARNAGE!! ; D LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 5:46 AM
	I th they should at least wait for a couple more Spidey Movies before Venom hacks his way in a solo movie :) teabag - 10/22/2009, 5:46 AM
	So good news WHISPERS!!! This is what ive been saying all along!! Great news!! LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 5:49 AM
	TEABAG @ I'm more interested in a VENOM movie than SPIDEY 4 lol!! ; D Dont get me wrong, i love the SPIDEY movies, but a solo VENOM has been floating around HOLLYWOOD since SPIDEY 1 and all they managed was a sh!Te rush job in SPIDEY 3!! And why does it have to wait? Theres no connection thank god! We'll get a decent VENOM on the big screen!! I say bring it on!!! LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 5:51 AM
	hahaha...venom movie?...what a crock of shite....venom is connected to spidey lore...they fukked it up..whatever...just move onto making a future spidey vs carnage isnt as lame!!!! focus on sm 4 and that franchise...why focus on a failed villain!!! Anil Rickly - 10/22/2009, 6:28 AM
	the less connection, the better. DarthMulder - 10/22/2009, 6:32 AM
	Sigh Why couldn't they just follow the comics...? If they did, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. BmanHall - 10/22/2009, 6:32 AM
	LEEE@ im even less excited if they cast your choice for Venom....bastard ruined Dracula lol :P teabag - 10/22/2009, 6:43 AM
	I say that they could connect Spiderman 3 with the new Venom movie. Only as in the end of SM 3 is shown with Venom. Right before Spidey launched the grenage at the Symbiote, a piece of it breaks off before it gets vaporized with the rest of Eddie Brock. Its falls and salvages itself from certain doom, piecing itself back together until it is whole when it finds a new host. (The only reason why I say use it is to show that the symbiote is here on earth and it is a survivor. Then you can actually get away with starting over from scratch with someone new. You can't use Eddie nor Peter except for the fact that they would be linked to the symbiote during their time. Then through that, the new Venom changes and then do the slow build and separation into Carnage for what would ultimately lead up to the third act face off between the two. I agree-Robert Knepper for Carnage/Cleatus Cassidy. However, for some odd reason, I think that for the new Venom. I think that Vin Diesel would awasome to face off against Knepper. But that's just me. EphPhaThaINC - 10/22/2009, 6:47 AM
	TEA @ You clearly have never watched PRISON BREAK or JOHN DOE! : P Eph @ Its best its not connected and thank you God lol!! An no to VIN! Eph's @ Think NAMOR!! ; D LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 6:57 AM
	LEE: Hey, Purcell was my choice for Venom!!! I cast him 6 months ago in my Spider-Man Fan Cast! :D Anyway, I now think that there's a better choice for Venom out there - Purcell looks the part but he showed in Blade that he doesnt make a convincing villain! He was great in Prison break though! As for Carnage, Knepper is a good choice but a bit too old now - they need someone younger otherwise the movie will be a Prison Break reunion, lol! joshw24 - 10/22/2009, 7:03 AM
	I say Venom shouldn't be connected to the box office. I like the character, just not as a stand alone anti-hero. To me, it's like Wolverine. I'm not as big of a wolverine fan when he's doing his own shit (although the Japan saga needs to be done). I like him as a part of X-men and i like Venom as a part of Spidey's "entourage". Josh- Although Ben Foster would be an excellent Electro, he certainly has the chops to pull off a kick ass/young Carnage! Just give him red hair and let him go apeshit :) Sam Rockwell would also have been a stellar Cleatus!!! Shaman - 10/22/2009, 7:04 AM
	Other than Emo Spidey I liked Spider-Man 3 alot. ClintEastwood - 10/22/2009, 7:10 AM
	Shaman: Thats a great idea actually! Though it was sort of comedic, Ben Foster played a great "nutcase" type character in an episode of My Name is Earl so I could see him pulling that off - his performance in 30 Days of Night was pretty creepy so he'd have that aspect of the character sewn up as well! joshw24 - 10/22/2009, 7:11 AM
	LEEE@ Clearly you are pleased easily lol :P teabag - 10/22/2009, 7:17 AM
	teabag: Lol! Remember, LEE cast a guy off an Aero ad for Captain America so Purcell's acting past is a huge step up! :D Shaman: I see that working really well! But if he were Carnage, who else could play Electro..? joshw24 - 10/22/2009, 7:22 AM
	JOSH @ Your going back on yourself, you said they would work well together on screen, now your saying what i said to you lol!! As for PURNELL i think everyone has cast him over the past friggin' year. But I like KNEPPER much more as CARNAGE than PURNELL as VENOM, if one had to go it would be PURNELL!! JOSH @ So you want the guy whos been ANGEL and in PUNISHER as well as you want him as ELECTRO as CARNAGE too???!!!! LMFAO man!!! Lazy casting, pick different actors atleast! ; D ROBERT KNEPPER only choice!! LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 7:29 AM
	A solo Venom movie is even worse than the idea of Magneto: Origins. MultiPurposePoni - 10/22/2009, 7:37 AM
	Multi@ Hallalooya :P teabag - 10/22/2009, 7:38 AM
	Actually @ MULTI @ BORIGINS was the worst idea, especially done by FOX!!! Cant wait for VENOM, gonna be [frick]ing fantastic!!! LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 7:39 AM
	JOSHW24@ Denis Leary for Electro! ClintEastwood - 10/22/2009, 7:40 AM
	LEE: I didnt cast him as Angel (which was a terrible choice) and his part was so small in Punisher I can barely remember it! And I want him as either Electro or Carnage! READ before you COMMENT! The problem is two actors who were on a TV show together arent going to be cast together in the same film! MULTI is right - a Venom movie is as bad an idea as the Magneto movie! Neither of these have any point to them! joshw24 - 10/22/2009, 7:42 AM
	He would make a great horror franchise, up there with Freddy, Myers, Lector, an Jason if not better!! LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 7:42 AM
	JOSH @ Thats what i argued with you about, when you wanted them both an i only wanted KNEPPER lmao, man, you've just gone back on yourself with everything you said in the past about the screen magic they both have together lol!!! And that dude didn't have a small part in PUNISHER?? WTF lol. LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 7:46 AM
	there should be a connection or at the very least a mention of spidy ComicFreak11 - 10/22/2009, 7:51 AM
	LEE: I never cast Knepper originally! I cast Jackie Earle Haley! joshw24 - 10/22/2009, 8:12 AM
	Why do you guys want to see Carnage so badly? You saw what they did with Venom effects-wise. Do you think Carnage would be any better? This entire Venom movie concept is LAME. All the studio is doing is milking the sht of a secondary character in a pointless story. Why would anyone support this? MultiPurposePoni* - 10/22/2009, 8:15 AM
	They will never make Carnage the same kind of killer thats in the comics....VENOM will never be the same as the comics......no point in thinking this idea wont be the final nail in the coffin :) teabag - 10/22/2009, 8:19 AM
	lee@ maybe venom and carnage could get sent to prison together and then break out and go on the run with venoms brother and a guy name tweener? would be a great movie. superdog - 10/22/2009, 8:20 AM
	superdog is driving the venom bus in the right direction lol ComicFreak11 - 10/22/2009, 8:23 AM
	...yeah the scenic route.... lol :P teabag - 10/22/2009, 8:26 AM
	lol :) nice ComicFreak11 - 10/22/2009, 8:31 AM
	@teabag: You failed to mention the trip takes 2 hours and costs 8 bucks MultiPurposePoni - 10/22/2009, 8:32 AM
	...with no return lol :P teabag - 10/22/2009, 8:38 AM
	TEABAG needs a good = Spanking!! LEEE777 - 10/22/2009, 8:45 AM
	LEEE@.... teabag - 10/22/2009, 8:48 AM
	GUYS, there are two important updates to the COSTUME CONTEST! Go check them out :) MultiPurposePoni - 10/22/2009, 9:46 AM
	What about toxin? any1 remember him? TheLivingWeapon - 10/22/2009, 9:50 AM
	What about toxin? any1 remember him? TheLivingWeapon - 10/22/2009, 9:56 AM
	Well josh, i always said Wentworth Miller would be an awesome Electro. Or... i always thought it. LOL :P I say Ben should go for the part that comes up first. Either Electro or Carnage. Either way, a Venom movie is that last [frick]ing thing i want right now. Shaman - 10/22/2009, 10:23 AM
	I was pretty sure the venom movie was put in development hell because the writers left thwhtGuardian - 10/22/2009, 10:23 AM
	It should be in developmental hell because it's a stupid idea. MultiPurposePoni - 10/22/2009, 10:44 AM
	Maybe it's just me, but i would prefer only one villain this time around I highly doubt carnage will ever make the film and as for the Kraven character...I could be wrong, but Raimi seems to be the kinda guy who likes characters being extraordinary in the "power" realm and Kraven looks like your average human being...yes I know his physical strengths due to the Voodoo lover of his were enhanced to be on par with Spider-Man, but physically Raimi seems to want a character that comes off as much different than us (Venom, Sandman, Dr Oc) Whispers68 - 10/22/2009, 11:11 AM
	Fassbender = Venom/Brock Foster = Carnage/Cassidy Period. Keven - 10/22/2009, 11:14 AM
	Fassbender - as Brock Foster - as Cassidy Keven - 10/22/2009, 11:21 AM
	TheLivingWeapon: I think its because no one wants to remember Toxin, lol! Keven: Michael Fassbender is Captain Britain, dammit!!! :D joshw24 - 10/22/2009, 11:33 AM
	I liked toxin, i think they could have done more with him Toxin - 10/22/2009, 11:36 AM
	Michael Fassbender is AQUAMAN!!!! Shaman - 10/22/2009, 11:46 AM
	Aquaman and Captain Britian? Come on. Those will never be movies. Nobody gives a sh!t about Captain Britian and Aquaman would be lucky to get his own film. He'll only be in a Justice Leage flick - and nobody KNOWN will play his ass. My casting would be tight. Keven - 10/22/2009, 11:59 AM
	@Keven: Keep telling yourself that MultiPurposePoni - 10/22/2009, 12:08 PM
	Kev- Wouldn't it be better for someone known to play Aquaman? I mean, he's pathetic enough as it is... Shaman - 10/22/2009, 12:22 PM
	Now, from what we've gathered so far, Venom will be a bit more of an anti-hero in this movie. If that is the case, then I have a feeling we might end up getting Anti-Venom alot sooner than expected. MovieTheaterLad - 10/22/2009, 12:33 PM
	"Not major news, but news nonetheless..." This is bigger news than half the stuff on the front page. slimybug - 10/22/2009, 2:46 PM
	if they do the movie keep topher grace as venom he did a good job as venom for the short time he had flames809 - 10/22/2009, 2:50 PM
	@Lee... Great call on Purcell and Knepper for lead roles. They had a great chemistry during Prison Break and both would work perfectly! Banner123 - 10/22/2009, 2:59 PM
	Venom can't have............. this pisses me off MrAnonymous - 10/22/2009, 3:20 PM
	Does'nt anybody remember the " Venom : Lethal Protector " comic book series , it had a more than decent run in the early to mid 90's . I say they they should wait for the licensing to expire or just allow Marvel studios to purchase the rights back so it would at least have a shot at being decent . Let M.S./Disney have a crack at it because no one else is going to make the " Venom " movie up to true potential . At least this way it could be PG-13 with a solid story and plenty of action , we all know that " Venom " is a brawler so it should be a fight heavy film . wussupman - 10/22/2009, 7:45 PM
	yeah, I used to have the first for or five issues of the Venom Lethal Protector. He moves out to San Fransisco or someting like that...lives in the sewers and has friends lol. fond memories...that was about the time I quit reading comic books. lol. Glad I started back up in the last few years... Jojo Risin - 10/23/2009, 2:35 AM
	cheese is the greatest weapon of all ! FrankCastle1 - 10/27/2009, 12:51 PM
	Honestly, Venom needs a movie after Spider-Man 3. Now, Spider-Man 3 was fantastic! Sam Raimi, don't forget that. The only thing is that Venom needed more screen time. It be like putting Carnage at the end of a Venom movie! I'm trying to complain, but he needs a movie. superherofan21 - 11/5/2009, 8:30 PM
	A good conection is VENOM kill an A.S.S.H.O.L.E director Sam Raimi in VENOM movie. OSCURO - 11/7/2009, 11:42 AM

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