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Willem Dafoe was almost cast as Batman!

The actor has denied rumours he was considered for Jack Nicholson's part of The Joker in 1989's Batman but has revealed that he was very nearly cast as the caped crusader!
After seeing a curious bit of "trivia" on Willem Dafoe's IMDB page stating that the actor was considered for the role of The Joker in Tim Burton's "Batman" back in 1989, MTV got in touch with the actor to see whether there was any truth to the rumour.

However, it seems that it wasn't the role of the Clown Prince of Crime that the 'Spider-Man' star was considered for, "Very early, they talked to me about playing Batman." Dafoe told MTV News.

"I hate to spread these things because unless you remember it well, you're stoking the fires of bulls---," said the actor. "But I remember it. I've had my brush with these things."
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joshw24
10/27/2009
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115 Comments

Yeah and JACK NICHOLSON was up for GREEN GOBLIN in SPIDEY 1!
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 9:18 AM
Haha no way! Willem Defoe as Bruce? I could see the Joker but Wayne?

Leee are you kidding or are you being serious? I can't tell.
Betty - 10/27/2009, 9:27 AM
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 9:35 AM
I guess they thought that the guy who played Jesus, would be perfect for the role of a dark, fear inducing vigilante. Can't go wrong with that logic.


supermarioworldE - 10/27/2009, 9:39 AM
Next up for Dafoe:
Captain America: The Creepiest Avenger!
invalensname - 10/27/2009, 9:41 AM
At least his Batman voice would've been great!

Keaton was a phenomenal Batman.

Bale's great too, but the voice... swear to me...

ElBicho - 10/27/2009, 9:50 AM
He would make a decent Batman if they ever made a 'Dark Knight Returns' movie, lol!
joshw24 - 10/27/2009, 9:54 AM
@ ElBicho: I agree. I think Keaton's Batman was the best.
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 10:09 AM
mmmk that's pretty strange
DarthMulder - 10/27/2009, 10:10 AM
I really don't see how his casting would have been any more bizarre that Keaton's. Both are slight build, shortish, vaguely fugly looking, but intense actors. Burton obviously had a type in mind when he was casting. Keaton pulled it off of course..well, except for being shorter than the Joker..their scenes together looked very strange.
Rorschach01 - 10/27/2009, 10:10 AM
I mean the guys a great actor and all but... no. Just no
DarthMulder - 10/27/2009, 10:15 AM
lol would of been interesting tho :)
teabag - 10/27/2009, 10:17 AM
Loads of actors went up for BATMAN??!

Just lucky the final result was MICHAEL KEATON!!

And BETTY, no wasnt joking lol, JACK was a hot favorite for GREEN GOBLIN! Well thats what i read years ago??!

Anyway WILLAIMS so wrong for BATMAN, im sure it was for the role of JOKER! Its BS lol.
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 10:22 AM
Well here goes whatever tiny bit of credibility I may have around here right out the bloody window.

Speaking of Dafoe, I LOVED him as Green Goblin. I thought he was amazing and perfect and....









... I also didn't mind the suit lol there I said it, don't hate.
DarthMulder - 10/27/2009, 10:30 AM
Hmmm, that could've been very interesting. Creepy, but interesting.
ecksmanfan - 10/27/2009, 10:34 AM
DARTH @ I loved him as NORMAN OSBORN too!! Though the GG costume could've been a bit better.
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 10:38 AM
I wouldnt see it working. Keaton and Dafoe are both intense but Dafoe is far too creepy intense.
Keaton's a funny guy but could play it down in the Batsuit and as Wayne, sublimated at least part of his humour into charm.
Dafoe may work as Batman but as Bruce Wayne? No. No, no, no. Charming? Perhaps a little, but creepy would over-ride it all.
invalensname - 10/27/2009, 10:38 AM
Yeah LEEE777 it could have been better, I agree. It could have been more like the comic.

But just the way everyone went apeshit about it like it was just the dumbest, lamest, most ultratarded thing ever done in a CBM was way out of proportion I thought.

Raimi's GG wasn't so much about a guy dressing up in a stylized goblin costume, as it was about an inventer who lost his mind and used his inventions for crime. One of which was an experimental green flight suit.
Whether or not you support Raimi's decision to go that way with it, you mist admit it makes sense. It's understandable.
DarthMulder - 10/27/2009, 10:47 AM
DarthMulder@ i always liked the idea behing GG's suite and Glider....plus Dafoe still came across a lil scary through the mask anyway :)
teabag - 10/27/2009, 10:51 AM
As skinny as he is, one punch would have laid him low! I say he should play the Hobgoblin in Spidey 4. Have it turn out Osborne wasn't actually dead, but took years to recover and his already warped mind was warped even further.
Nemesys - 10/27/2009, 10:52 AM
he could haven been a good joker if jack had turned the role down...id bet on that
Anil Rickly - 10/27/2009, 10:54 AM
he could haven been a good joker if jack had turned the role down...id bet on that
Anil Rickly - 10/27/2009, 10:54 AM
Dafoe's facial expressions and posture were SPOT ON playing a tortured Norman Osborn. He lost the ability to portray the Goblin as a psychotic villain once they suited him up as a power ranger. He didn't look agile or menacing in that thing, which are two of the Goblin's best characteristics.
MultiPurposePoni - 10/27/2009, 10:55 AM
@ mulder

i agree with you about GG. i thought he did fine. i liked the costume too, i just didn't like the helmet. it couldn't been better looking. but it didn't ruin the movie or anything.
CorndogBurglar - 10/27/2009, 11:11 AM
cool
DarthMulder - 10/27/2009, 11:21 AM
man i love this actor. he is the green goblin after all. and he would have nailed the joker. as for the batman...i don't think he has the looks of a billionaire playboy.
and this is my idea of the riddler in the TDK sequel. johnny depp has to play him. facial hair not necessary. the riddler is a genius so he must be eccentric. like depp

Denn1s - 10/27/2009, 11:23 AM
Dude, they could've painted DeFoe's face green and given him a purple sock hat, and he would've been a dead ringer for the goblin!

That said, I also liked Raimi's take. In fact it was the only Spiderman movie I really liked.

As for Batman, uhhhhh No.
BillyBlack - 10/27/2009, 11:25 AM
DARTH @ Yeah man!!

DENN1S @ Awesome DEPP/RIDDLER picture Kudos!!
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 11:29 AM
thanx again LEEE777. the only bad thing about green goblin in the movie was that he was all green. he should have some purple parts
Denn1s - 10/27/2009, 11:29 AM
Great pic Denn1s :)
teabag - 10/27/2009, 11:33 AM
I didnt hate the Green Goblin's costume in Spider-Man but the concept ones that I saw in the 'making of' book that came out alongside the film were much better. If Dafoe does come back as Osborn I really hope we'll see something a little closer to the comic book version! Still, seeing as he's been in all 3 so far Im hoping he's back and alive for Spider-Man 5/6!!!
joshw24 - 10/27/2009, 11:49 AM
I think Christian Bale's Batman voice is hilarious. It reminds me of a girl I used to work with that was a habitual smoker that always asked me if I wanted to "drink some beers" with her. God she was sexy.

I don't think it would have been bad, Dafoe as Batman, we can't picture it now because we still have the lasting impression of Keaton and Bale as Batman. I think he's a great actor who can fill any part given to him very well.
FlashThompson - 10/27/2009, 12:12 PM
@ FlashThompson: Hahaha, your co-worker story made me all warm inside. XD
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 12:39 PM
@BmanHall - I bet I made her feel all warm inside when I plowed that shit. HEY NOW!
FlashThompson - 10/27/2009, 12:46 PM
@ FlashThompson: Haha, jeez dude! There's children on this site. =P
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 12:50 PM
@ BmanHall - where do they think they came from? More than likely a booty call, an amatuer porno film, or a drunken night of sloppy sex.
FlashThompson - 10/27/2009, 1:02 PM
@ FlashThompson: Where do who come from? Children or slutty co-workers?
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 1:22 PM
@EL bicho - LOL ... that was funny

And very true Keaton was and probably still is the best batman even though he didn't have the physic for it
thegreek - 10/27/2009, 1:24 PM
flames close your eyes :P
teabag - 10/27/2009, 1:25 PM
I can't see him as Bats at all. He would have been an AMAZING Joker IMO though.

Denn1s: Cool drawing, but Depp is not Riddler my friend ;)

The only Riddler is David Tennant!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/27/2009, 1:28 PM
Children and most slutty co-workers. I agree Keaton is a great actor he just didn't look like Batman. Not to sound limp wristed but isn't Batman supposed to be good looking? Keaton I thnk was lacking in that department. Also another problem I have with Bale as Batman is that his mouth and lisp are hideous and you would be able to point him out just by his mouth and lisp alone.
FlashThompson - 10/27/2009, 1:28 PM
@ Flash Thompson - LMAO
thegreek - 10/27/2009, 1:31 PM
I bet u he is lieing he just wants peps to talk about him
skmaster - 10/27/2009, 1:33 PM
@ Flash: Bale is a good all around bruce wayne/ batman, but when he does the batman voice too much (the dark knight) it sounds forced and fake. Keaton had that DOWN, and he owned the whole "I'm batman, I don't have to run for anything dammit" cool persona.
antz1104 - 10/27/2009, 2:04 PM
@ skmaster: Haha, yeah I was casted for Batman as well. It was between me and Bale. I just let him have it. =P
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 2:06 PM
KEATON-HAD EVERYTHING BUT MUSCLES...VAL KILMER-JUST TOO PRETTY...CLOONEY-COULDN'T TAKE HIM SERIOUS WHEN HE HAD BAT NIPPLES,A BAT CREDIT CARD,NO....BALE-HE HAS EVERYTHING BUT THE VOICE, ALL THAT MONEY AND SPACE AGE TECH NOT ON THE MARKET AND LUCIUS FOX CANT INSTALL A VOICE CHANGER INTO YOUR COWL?...
GUNSMITH - 10/27/2009, 2:19 PM
@ antz1104: I remember when Batman Begins came out. As I watched it I couldn't help but feel that Bale's Batman performance was, for lack of a better phrase, "not as cool" as Keaton's. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out why. So, eventually, I went back and watched Batman and Batman Returns. What I realized is that Keaton rarely talked when he was in costume. However, when he did it was short and to the point. That and minus the raspy voice. I think Bale plays an excellent Bruce Wayne, but Keaton was the better Batman by far.
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 2:20 PM
DAFOE (dafoe)!!
nerosday - 10/27/2009, 2:21 PM
KEATON WITH HIEGHT AND MUSCLES...PERFECT BATMAN.BUT HE HAS TO HAVE MUSCEL TO EXPLAIN WHY HE CAN LIFT A MAN OVER THE EDGE OF A BUILDING OR TAKE DOWN CIRCUS CARNIE FREAKS WITH A STIFF NECK.
GUNSMITH - 10/27/2009, 2:24 PM
hawkngo - 10/27/2009, 2:30 PM
Bman: I totally agree.

Bale was the best Bruce Wayne by far, but his Batman is severely lacking in comparison to Keaton's, and even when Bale's Bat stands alone. Keaton owned every part of Batman. Bale, not so much.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/27/2009, 2:35 PM
Keaton also had Kim Basinger, that trumps katie holmes and maggie whats-her-name any day.
antz1104 - 10/27/2009, 2:38 PM
In my personal opinion, if the movies had been made years later, back when he was really ruling the box office, I honestly believe that Jim Carrey would've made the perfect Joker.

Jim Carrey Pictures, Images and Photos
MovieTheaterLad - 10/27/2009, 2:42 PM
@ MovieTheaterLad: Jim Carrey is an incredible actor. He would make a good Joker but he was perfect for Riddler. It's a shame that we couldn't see his true potential due to shit directing.
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 2:48 PM
hey, if were gonna talk Dafoe, we gotta bring in Double G!


torched4 - 10/27/2009, 3:09 PM
I think Keaton sucked for Batman, those movies were a f**king insult to the character. I'll say it again, thank God for Nolan and Bale for showing us how real Batman films should be.
ASSASSIN666 - 10/27/2009, 3:16 PM
ASSASSIN666@What? Burton's Bat Film is way better than Nolans Bat film and how is it an insult to the Charecter, Burton's Batman was way more faithful than Nolans.
InSpace - 10/27/2009, 3:34 PM
@ASSASSIN: Dude, I'm a big fan of Nolan's take on the Bat-verse, but his movies are FAR from faithful to the characters.
MultiPurposePoni - 10/27/2009, 3:52 PM
ASSASSIN: Because we all know that Batman from the comics would talk in a throat cancer sounding voice... right?

InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/27/2009, 3:54 PM
Keaton best Batman100%
teabag - 10/27/2009, 4:09 PM
@tyler,
guys, if were talkin bout batman and throat cancer now , we gotta bring in the interrogation spoof!

torched4 - 10/27/2009, 4:13 PM
torched: I was hoping someone would bring that video up ;)
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/27/2009, 4:18 PM
"I'm Batman" YOU BELIEVED THAT SH%T WHEN KEATON SAID IT!!!
antz1104 - 10/27/2009, 4:40 PM
from platoon to batman...umm no.
RomeyRome2002 - 10/27/2009, 4:53 PM
Ok guys I see your points, but Nolan's take on Bats is like Favreau's take on Iron Man. The films are grounded in a little more reality then the comics, but it works better. As for the voice Bats should sound different, maybe not so garbage disposal, but different. In comparison to Keaton and Bale, there is none. Bale is the kind of actor most actors dream of being, Keaton is a B-list actor who got lucky with a few roles. He doesn't look like a handsome multi millionaire type, and he doesn't have the stature of Batman at all
ASSASSIN666 - 10/27/2009, 5:13 PM
What makes Bale so much better than Keaton? Newsies? Reign of Fire? Harsh Times? Only American Psycho puts him in the same league. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were awesome, and it wasn't b/c of Bale.He was trying to be Keaton's Batman, so even if Keaton is a b-lister (which he isn't), he owns Bale hands down.
antz1104 - 10/27/2009, 5:23 PM
@ASSASSIN: "Bale is the kind of actor most actors dream of being"

Thank you! I laughed so friggin' hard when I read that line! Seriously, though, get off Bale's jock strap and realize he's no where near being an A-lister. Not even close.

You say that Nolan's Batman is "grounded in a little more reality"? Ummm. . . Really? Please explain that one. Every Batman film/comic/cartoon is based in a FANTASY world.

Last time I checked, Batman's tech in any of his movies is unrealistic to the times they were released. So don't use THAT ruse.
MultiPurposePoni - 10/27/2009, 5:37 PM
Grounded in reality doesn't describe Batman from the comics at all dude. He's got super-powered villains ya know. Poison Ivy, Clayface, Killer Croc, etc.

Also, he shares the same world as a man who can run at super-speed, a flying man with incredible strength and heat vision, a woman from a fantasy Greek island with an invisible jet, a telepathic alien from Mars, and a man with a ring that can create anything his mind thinks of. Does that honestly sound like reality to you?
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/27/2009, 5:44 PM
ASSASSIN666 said: "He doesn't look like a handsome multi millionaire type, and he doesn't have the stature of Batman at all"

First off, you're thinking of Bruce Wayne, not Batman. We already established that Bale is the better Bruce Wayne. So the argument on that subject is pointless.

Also, like Nolan's take on Batman too, but Tim Burton made the movie version of Batman who he is today. Anyone who doesn't see that is beyond clueless.
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 5:45 PM
Im sorry, I have absolutely no idea where people get the notion that Burton's Bat movie were in any way more faithful to the comics. Nolan took a few liberties but Burton re wrote the [frick]ing bible! His movies may have had more of a comic book feel to them, but faithful SPECIFICALLY to the Batman comics? Your off your rocker!

Stuff Nolan changed/altered...Rhas Al Ghul training Bruce, He and Scarecrow being the first villains he faced..Joker wearing face paint and not being bleached, Killed Two Face..changed how he was scarred, grounded maybe a bit too much in reality..some minor changes to the characters motivations but pretty faithful over all.

Burton...Turned Gotham City into a goth's wet dream..Nolan may have realitied it up..but which is the bigger liberty?..Gordon. What a joke! A 70 year old, fat bumbling fool thats in about 2 scenes. Harvey Dent, a black dude, 2 scenes..no set up for Two Face. Alfred, 120 years old, 4 scenes... The Joker kills Bruce's parents!! The Joker dies..Penguin is a grotesque mutant scumbag! about 10 million miles away from the character in the comic,,and maybe the worst of all, Batman kills..gleefully! He [frick]ing straps bombs to people and burns them alive for God sake. Not in one incarnation of Batman, even Miller's which is considered his most insane and violent, has he ever intentionally killed anyone.

As far as Keaton and Bale go? Well, yes I did find Bale's voice a bit grating. I would have preferred he toned it down slightly. But otherwise I still like Bale better. Keaton was good, but he played Bruce as just as much of a weirdo as Batman..of course he is! But there was no public facade, no playboy Bruce. He was also, as pointed out above, a bit of an ugly bastard! Or at least, far from the looker Wayne is supposed to be, and faaaaar to short and thin. His Batman was as good as Bale's though, even better if you factor in the voice.
Rorschach01 - 10/27/2009, 5:51 PM
I am personally not arguing that Burton's Bat-films were more faithful than Nolan's. I just want to make that clear, and I'm not saying I thought you directed the comment at me Ror.

Keaton was menacing without having to make his voice sound like nails on a chalk board. He simply was scary as Bats, and nailed every aspect of that personality. I actually believed that he was Batman, which I did not for Bale. I never thought that he was the personification of the character.

Bale is the best Bruce by far, but a mediocre Batman.

Keaton was the best Batman by far, but a run-of-the-mill Bruce.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/27/2009, 6:02 PM
Ror: "His Batman was as good as Bale's though, even better if you factor in the voice. "

Thank you, that's exactly the point. I don't get why people have to throw in the reality factor of both films, they are all based on fantasy! We're debating who personified the best Batman.
MultiPurposePoni - 10/27/2009, 6:04 PM
@ Rorschach01: Thanks for pointing that out. None of the Batman movies follow the comics. Aside from having characters with the same name, the story is as far off as Dragon Ball Evolution... Ok, maybe not that bad.
BmanHall - 10/27/2009, 6:06 PM
Willem Dafoe was a GREAT Norman Osborn... but Green Goblin was a damn joke in the Spider-Man film. Looked like a cheap knock-off of those Power Rangers foes.

AdamMichaels - 10/27/2009, 6:33 PM
multi- I give you the examples of Harsh Times, Machinist, Equilibrium, American Psycho, 3:10 to Yuma, Public Enemies, Batman Begins. Compare those to Mr Mom, Beetlejuice, and Batman. Keaton couldn't play Bales' kind of roles if he had lessons. That's what makes him A-list, because he can act. He's not about money, he's about his craft. You tell me how rare a breed that is in shallow town nowadays?
ASSASSIN666 - 10/27/2009, 6:35 PM
At least Keaton never trashed anyone's lights... ;)
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/27/2009, 6:52 PM
@ASSASSIN: Why would you compare Keaton's comedies to Bale's dramatic roles? That makes no sense.

Did you ever see Keaton in dramatic roles such as Pacific Heights or Desperate Measures? Those performances are some the greatest renditions of psychotic characters, very much on par with American Psycho. Before you pass judgment on an actor, you should do your research into their films.

Besides, no one has said Bale is a bad actor. It's only be stated that Keaton had a better portrayal of the Batman persona. You don't need to revert to petty insults in an attempt to make your point, it's rather silly.
MultiPurposePoni - 10/27/2009, 7:16 PM
He's not about the money? He's Batman and John Connor for Christsakes, and he didn't pick those roles to show off "artistic talent" or to "explore the depths of the role". And his craft consists of three things: yelling, having an accent, and not having an accent. I have loved his movies (The Prestige, others mentioned above)and I like him very much as an actor. But he didn't make them good, they were good stories that he had a part in. I'll give him credit for having a good eye for scripts (sometimes...) Keaton rocks, and showed more versatility in Beetlejuice than Bale did in Rescue Dawn.
antz1104 - 10/27/2009, 7:46 PM
Multi- I've seen Keaton's movies and just was never impressed by him. I did think he was good in Pacific heights, but I'm just going on my opinion. I'm not shoving it up every one's ass, I just hated the first series of Batman films. Maybe that's got more to do with Tim Burton then Keaton. I was very much an adult when I saw the first and second Batman, I wasn't some kid who looked up at the screen and went wow. I didn't like them, but I will say I loved them compared to the two films that followed. Again this is not an ass f**k from me, just my opinion
ASSASSIN666 - 10/27/2009, 8:29 PM
Agreed, 3 and 4 were horrible. I still have nightmares about bat-cards, a disco ball in the batmobile, and the arnie one liners. uuuuhhhhh...(shiver)
antz1104 - 10/27/2009, 8:45 PM
I liked Bale as Batman, voice and all.
Of course he would want to disguise his voice, thus the grunting and grinding. The voice actor for the Batman cartoon did that for years. He made his voice gravelly too and I never heard all this whinghing and whining.
lol Tom Waites used to do the same thing as an act and eventually his voice got stuck that way.

Keaton was good too, but in a different way. The two are very different.

DarthMulder - 10/27/2009, 8:54 PM
Thank you DarthMulder, it's been i dont know how long since somebody actually took Kevin Conroy into consideration (he did the voice for Batman in the animated series). It has even been stated IN THE COMICS that Bruce Wayne makes his voice gravelly while he's Batman. Right now, Dick Grayson (who is the current Batman, btw) is having a tough time with making his voice all grindy and harsh. Gordon even noticed that the bats isnt the same guy anymore due to this.
Jib7z - 10/27/2009, 9:02 PM
Batman the animated series is still in my eyes the best written cartoon ever, of course Wolverine and the X-Men and X-Men the animated series are right up there too.
ASSASSIN666 - 10/27/2009, 9:08 PM
Arkham Asylum was great just b/c of the voice acting of Hamill and Conroy.
antz1104 - 10/27/2009, 9:10 PM
Guys, there is a difference between gravelly, and a garbage disposal voice.

I've said this countless times, I know it makes sense for Bruce to disguise his voice. He's supposed to do that. However, what does not make sense, is for him to do it in that HORRENDOUS "voice" that you can barely understand. The voice of Batman should compliment the performance and not stick out like a sore thumb. Bale's voice did not mesh well with the movie at all, and was extremely distracting, to say the least.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/27/2009, 9:23 PM
some of you need to do research to see how effed up the whole damn franchise could have been back then. an early version of a script featured the penquin as a tall thin man, who was written with ol' doc brown in mind. marlon wayans had been cast as robin for two movies, but joel douschemaker did one good thing and fired him. the planned 5th film would have had the scarecrow and harley quinn, who was going to be jokers daughter not girlfriend. as well as a fear toxin cameo by jack and maybe even manbat. this is as true as richard gere being up for the lead role in die hard.
docholliday5 - 10/27/2009, 9:32 PM
I'm your huckleberry
MultiPurposePoni - 10/27/2009, 9:46 PM
law don't go around here, law-dawg!

docholliday5-- Damn that's bad.
Betty - 10/27/2009, 11:36 PM
I heard you the first time.

Commence to fighting or get away :)
MultiPurposePoni - 10/27/2009, 11:43 PM
Its very simple................



Batman







Hawkman



Stupid beak mask lol

Simples lol :P
teabag - 10/28/2009, 6:57 AM
That aint HAWKMAN!!!

This is HAWKMAN =



: D


LEEE777 - 10/28/2009, 7:16 AM
LEEE@ that mask sure as hell looks like Hawkman with the beak lol :P
teabag - 10/28/2009, 7:22 AM
@teabag: I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought TDK Batman suit looked silly. It's starting to feel like Sh*tmacher all over again.

@LEEE: You know, you don't really need to throw your fan casting in EVERY freakin' article. Seriously dude
MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 7:27 AM
Multi@ yeah i thought it looked dumb....the head peice made him look like a bobble head...plus with all the indentation and peices to the body armour you cant distinguish the Bat symbol. The symbol is meant to act as a target for criminals which i though was a cool idea, it doesnt have to be the yellow and black version just visibal thats all :)
teabag - 10/28/2009, 7:35 AM
@teabag: Gray and black Batman suit all the way!

BATMAN Pictures, Images and Photos
MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 7:42 AM
Multi@ look at that....that is batman ..gives me chills love it :)
teabag - 10/28/2009, 7:53 AM
Why is it so hard to put that on film? The kick in the nuts is that Bale has the right physique to wear a Batman suit like that and they STILL throw in too much latex and junk. Oh well
MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 8:03 AM
Nothing wrong with keeping it simple...




love it :P
teabag - 10/28/2009, 8:54 AM
Haha those were the pics I was looking to post before. Nice :)
MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 8:59 AM
Mmm, I'll pass guys! But, I agree that the new suit was too..armorised if thats even a word. Anyway, I think Keaton's suit looked a bit too much like a big black rubber Johnny, but thats probably just because he was so slight of build. His head was almost as wide as his shoulders. They should have taken elements of that and the new one for Nolan's movies. In Begins it was cool, but they techy'd it up too much in TDK.
Rorschach01 - 10/28/2009, 9:10 AM
@Ror: Wow, we agree on TWO points today :)

1) Burton put Keaton in the framed latex suit because Keaton had a slight build (too bad he didn't add 2 inch lifts). If anything, it makes Bale look smaller than he really is. Do you remember in Begins, when Bruce talks to Gordon for the first time wearing a 'ninja' outfit? I thought that was Nolan's way of breaking out of the latex mold.

2) The Begins suit was fine by me! Just goes to show making it TOO realistic isn't a good thing.

To top it off, and my biggest disappointment, we STILL haven't seen the bad-ass detective Batman on screen. We get fighting and patrolling for baddies, but no investigation based story!
MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 9:14 AM
@ Multi: Digging that slug out of the wall, ballistics testing, and reconstructing the fingerprint doesn't count?
Tracking down that tied up honor guard like that wasn't detective work?
I mean it wasn't excessive but the element was there IMO

Also I kind of got the feeling that the radiation tainted bills was Batman's idea too. Wouldn't that kind of count?
DarthMulder - 10/28/2009, 9:32 AM
@Darth: The radiation tainted bills was the only part that gave me the feel of Batman as a detective. And it was a great idea for the movie!

Buuuut, I've said this before: The bullet digging/reconstruction/testing/fingerprinting was RIDICULOUS!

I watched that scene with my forensics guys and they laughed their asses off. That was all show for the movie and just plain silly.
MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 9:39 AM
Yeah I was just gonna say, we got a small dose of it in TDK. I guess that particular story didn't really call for a lot of it. If they stick the Riddler in the next one we will see more...but since i [frick]ing hate the Riddler, I don't want that to happen!

Multi, check out the top 10 list,. I added the Yellow Bastard..and the scariest of all!
Rorschach01 - 10/28/2009, 9:41 AM
lol yeah scientifically that whole shooting bricks will tell us something gag was mega stupid.

I didn't buy for a second that you could get a good print off a shattered bullet
DarthMulder - 10/28/2009, 9:44 AM
@Darth: Yeah buddy, it's not like we can pull DNA or anything ;)

What I'm trying to say it that we keep seeing Batman fighting, fighting, fighting. . . . but very little investigative work. He's using all this Wayne tech for kicking ass, but what about some high speed forensic equipment? They should make CSI look like a kids show compared to Bats.

Oh, and that friggin retarded 'sonar' crap? Not only was it unpractical, it's contradicting to the story:

1) Bruce asks Fox for a suit with more mobility so he can turn his head. . .

2) Bruce modifies the new suit with lenses that ONLY let him see using sonar. No sight at all when it shuts off, No peripheral vision, No depth perception, nothing. . .

Ummm. . . what?

@Ror: Yeah man, I say NO to the Riddler. I want a mob/hitman story for Bats 3

BTW Did I tell you that thanks to G. I. Ho, we use the name 'Ripcord' as a nickname for the f*ck ups in our unit?
MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 9:49 AM
@ Multi, very true. Trip off this, yall. The sonar thing was silly, true enough. But maaybe about the third or forth time I saw it at the theater I got the wieredst idea that that idea was borrowed from that Daredevil flick from a few years back.

It was lame I mean Daredevil's power is not sonar... but it was that computer generated visual display that sort of reminded me of that
DarthMulder - 10/28/2009, 10:13 AM
About the Riddler thing.. I don't much LIKE the Riddler at all. His Marvel counterpart is Arcade who I also don't care for.

BUT... I feel that if Nolan did decide to go that way, he would find some non silly way to do it. He probably won't of course, but if he did I would at least give it a chance. IMO Nolan and co. has earned a little faith at this point.
DarthMulder - 10/28/2009, 10:18 AM
@Darth: It did remind me of Daredevil's 'sonar'. But I think it was just a rip off from Batman Forever.

Remember this:

MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 10:18 AM
I think in Nolan's movies it would make sense to make the Riddler a detective or a psychologist that works at Gotham MCU. For example: Even after he deduces Batman's identity, he doesn't feel his fellow authorities have earned the right to know so he uses his position to play games with Bats. Since Nolan's villains don't follow canon, it wouldn't be a far stretch compared to what's already been done.
MultiPurposePoni - 10/28/2009, 10:34 AM
Ive said it before but with the police after Batman they should do the 'Prey' storyline...

Have Hugo Strange as a phycologist driving the puglic to more hatred towards bats whilst encouraging a demented cop to become a vigilante to make matters worse

I loved that story cus of Hugo's manaquin he keeps as his missis and dressing up as bats.

:P
teabag - 10/28/2009, 10:54 AM
oh god... No I had forgotten that lousy Shitmaker thing.
DarthMulder - 10/28/2009, 10:59 AM
@Torched4

F*cking hilarious video! That dude looks like Ledger! Although Ledger´s acting was better.

BTW Seeing Dafoe as The Joker would be awesome to see! WHO CREEPING THAT WOULD BE?!
AlexDeLarge666 - 10/28/2009, 12:02 PM
Tea@ nice post on the Batman pic from "Dead End." Awesome video.
antz1104 - 10/28/2009, 3:52 PM
Anybody read the Batman Handbook? Great way to blow 12$ if you're a fan.
antz1104 - 10/28/2009, 3:53 PM

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