Sam Raimi Talks Spider-Man 4 Villains...Sort of.

The helmer of the 3 Spider-Man films share his thoughts about possible foes for the Amazing Arachnid in his 4th outing.

MTV has an exclusive chat with Sam Raimi about Spider-man 4 Villains

here's an excerpt:

"I love the Lizard," said Raimi. "There's a great story there in the Marvel comic books about Dr. Connors. I'm less familiar with Carnage."

Raimi then took a long pause. "I'm not allowed to say at this point," he confessed.

Spilling the identity of the villain months before the film's prospective March shoot date was a little too much to hope. But Raimi was keen to illuminate his thought process regarding how and why he and his creative team select a specific villain. As he explained, it has less to do with the mention of a particular villain in an earlier film (as is the case with the Lizard) or about connecting the fourth film to another planned Marvel adaptation (see Carnage in "Venom").

Rather, the choice of a villain comes down to what makes most sense for the arc of Peter Parker's character. And with screenwriter Gary Ross still working on a draft of the script, everything is still very much in flux.

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Basically he's just voicing his opinions about certain Spidey Villains. There's no official word yet on whom will Spidey be facing in his 4th movie outing.

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65 Comments

	YES YES and YES!!!! Top news @ ACCESS!!! CARNAGE in VENOM!! RAIMI luvs LIZARD! All coming together man, wicked news!! LEEE777 - 10/12/2009, 6:47 PM
	I smell KRAVEN too!! ; D LEEE777 - 10/12/2009, 6:48 PM
	I think the Lizard really needs to be in the fourth one. The emotional connection with Peter has been established since Spidey 1. And raimi likes his "Villains" to not be actually villains. access - 10/12/2009, 7:01 PM
	Just announce it'll be Lizard already. He's sort of made it a bit obvious that's who he's going for, it's not like he'd be spoiling or surprising anyone by saying it's Lizard. InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/12/2009, 7:04 PM
	i hope he is hinting at the truth and not messing with us. bleedthefreak16 - 10/12/2009, 7:30 PM
	the good news is, we are all expecting The Lizard to be the main villain for this sequel Secondly, the article about Captain America being cast has been deleted. Other sites were discrediting comicbookmovie due to the Beyonce fiasco and with this "update" of Chris being the choice for Captain America, it wouldn't reflect positively on the site Whispers68 - 10/12/2009, 7:39 PM
	Whispers: I just found out it got deleted too. Thank god! InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/12/2009, 7:41 PM
	Thank Goodness it got axed! DDD - 10/12/2009, 7:56 PM
	HONESTLLY THE LIZARD WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GO, THERES DRAMA IN THAT FOR PETER, TORN BETWEEN STOPPING THE BEAST WITHOUT HURTING HIS MENTOR OR ALLOWING HIM TO HURT ANYONE WITHOUT HURTING HIM IN THE PROCESS..THE LIZARD IS THE REASON WHY IN THE COMICS(FUTURE) HE LOSES HIS LEG AND RETIRES. GUNSMITH - 10/12/2009, 8:15 PM
	THE BEST STORIES ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE CHARACTERS YOU FEEL INVESTED IN...THE LIZARD,CONNORS HAS BEEN IN 3 MOVIES..THATS ALOT OF INVESTMENT. GUNSMITH - 10/12/2009, 8:17 PM
	Although i love carnage, Raimi isn't too familiar with the character, and I don't want him messing carnage up the way he messed up venom. Maybe lizard is a good choice. supermarioworldE - 10/12/2009, 8:21 PM
	Is it possible its gonna be Carnage (done right) and Lizard...i mean actually itd make sense Connor did have a piece of it and even thought the venom synbiote actually gives birth to a red synbiote aka carnage they could use that right........right?!?!?!RIGHT?!?! haha i just want them to use carnage to be honest i think carnage and lizard would be good villain exposure but i think we can all agree the lizard will happen Set2Fallfirst - 10/12/2009, 8:22 PM
	And i know the synbiote needs to attach to a human within a certain time frame but idk just wishful thinking Set2Fallfirst - 10/12/2009, 8:25 PM
	lizard is most definate. others i have in mind: -fiance from 2 -kraven -vulture -scorpion -mysterio kraven and lizard are main villians, while the other three are side villians... not sure about the fiance from 2, tho kyle dalton - 10/12/2009, 8:29 PM
	Gotta be the lizard, maybe set up the sinister six with some hints at the end of the 4th fot the next two movies. i think that could be awesome UltimateSpidey - 10/12/2009, 8:54 PM
	Carnage ain't happenin in Spidey 4. I'd be shocked and pissed if he did include that villian after using Venom for only 20 mins. tops in the last one. Keven - 10/12/2009, 8:56 PM
	Carnage no way. I don't want another fcked up symbiote story, and he just isn't needed at all. InTylerWeTrust82* - 10/12/2009, 8:57 PM
	no carnage ever. His only good story was Maximum Carnage and that film just can't be made. I'd be down with the lizard, no need for kraven though he'd just add clutter to the movie. on an aside note, do you use ad code or something on your posts access? Or is it just me who always gets pop up ads when I view his articles? thwhtGuardian - 10/12/2009, 9:09 PM
	lizard and carnage would be perfect for the film! although, as much as i love here's what i would absolutely love for the next coming spiderman trilogy: spiderman 4: the lizard and carnage spiderman V(engeance): mysterio and chameleon spiderman - sinister six: hobgoblin, electro, rhino, vulture, scorpion, and a mystery 6th villain in charge, Kingpin? CapitalG - 10/12/2009, 9:15 PM
	It would be awesome to see Mysterio. No to Carnage, leave that one to the Venom movie should it happen. Number21 - 10/12/2009, 9:39 PM
	lizard gets my vote. but make him look like a [frick]ing monster. they didnt do a good job at making venom very intimidating at all. they gotta work on that Torque - 10/12/2009, 10:03 PM
	CARNAGE IN VENOM!!!! Too early to bring him into SPIDEY 4, he's not needed, so many other villains for SPIDEY like LIZARD & KRAVEN leading up to THE SINISTER SIX! LEEE777 - 10/12/2009, 10:22 PM
	Exactly @ Number21!! ; ) LEEE777 - 10/12/2009, 10:23 PM
	Don't let him do Carnage. He f-ucked up Venom because he wasn't a fan of the character. DON'T LET HIM DO IT AGAIN! save Carnage for the Venom spin off AND DO IT RIGHT THIS TIME! RemiMartini - 10/12/2009, 10:27 PM
	Yeah Sinister 6 in Spider-man 6 access - 10/12/2009, 10:27 PM
	Sinister six would be explosive for Spiderman 5 (or 6)! It would be great for Spiderman 4 to see a flying villain like Vulture or Morbius. But I think Lizard is most likely... DrStrange - 10/13/2009, 2:08 AM
	Im sorry to tell you all, But Raimi lost All my confidence from 3. I am not expecting Spider man 4 or 5 or 6 ( ad infinitum)to be good. I think Raimi Has been reading CBM websites though, I think he knows WE want less Panzy Parker and More Ass whuppin. And Bring On the villians.... Lizard, Craven, Shocker, Rhino, Mysterio, The Vulture. Make 4 and 5 look like the last episode of Angel, where ALL the Villians show up wantin some Spider arse. Anyway, I dont really care for Raimi or his style or his expectation. Skyh00k - 10/13/2009, 5:38 AM
	Awesome news, bring on The Lizard!! Sounds like they'll follow Raimi's direction this time around, not the producers... Inohaku - 10/13/2009, 8:54 AM
	I am sort of coming around to the idea of Lizard and Kraven being in the next Spider-Man film even if I think villains like Scorpion and Electro would be much better! Im glad that Carnage wont be in the next one though - they [frick]ed Venom up enough!!! joshw24 - 10/13/2009, 1:14 PM
	I think Lizard and Kraven would be great. As far as Carnage goes they should do a maximum carnage spin off and let some one who can stick to the story line write and direct it. but it would at least need to be a two part franchise. blowexican - 10/13/2009, 2:05 PM
	As long Raimi had full control of the movie again, I say Yeah! go with sinister six for the 5th or 6th, but he must have full control, because we all know what happened with Spidy 3.... SpiderGuy - 10/13/2009, 2:37 PM
	Ditko! Ditko! Ditko! Screw carnage! Stick to the classics! Can everyone please read some OLD comics?! Amazing Spider-Man #'s 1 -300 and Marvel Team-Up #'s 1 - 150 contain all the material needed to make superior Spidey sequels! For those on a budget, any Marvel Tales reprints you can get your hands on will suffice! We older fans have waited DECADES to see these films get made! Characters like Carnage should be given short shrift! Spider-Man has a fantastic rogue's gallery that needs to be taken advantage of! We need to see the Chameleon, the Tinkerer, Electro, Kraven the Hunter, the Shocker, Mysterio, the Lizard, the Circus of Crime, the Kingpin, the Vulture, the return of Doc Ock and the Scorpion! I wouldn't use the Molten Man(too cheesy), the Jackal(same) or the Rhino(save him for his TRUE enemy -the Hulk!). The one exception to the Ditko rule I'd allow for is the Hobgoblin! This guy gave Spidey fits for five years!! He turned out to be Ned Leeds, NOT Roderick Kingsley(that was a later development). Back in 1986 and '87 the "Gang War" story from Amazing Spider-Man #'s 283 - 287 was all the rage! I would love to see that plot adapted for the big screen! Remember New Avengers #1? Electro let all of the super-villains out of prison! I'd have the Kingpin hire him to do the same (with non-powered criminals)in Spidey 5, which would touch off the gang war!! JonF - 10/13/2009, 2:45 PM
	4- THE LIZARD KRAVEN 5- ELECTRO SCORPION 5- VULTURE (WHO RAIMI LOVES, SO IT MAKES SENSE) SINSTER SIX (WITH SANDMAN...I KNOW HE FLOATED AWAY ON DECENT TERMS, BUT HES A MERCENARY AND THE VULTURE IS RICH) dellamorte1872 - 10/13/2009, 3:58 PM
	WE'VE HAD 2 "GOBLINS" ALREADY AND A CRAPPY SYMBIOTE...DONT COMPOUND IT! dellamorte1872 - 10/13/2009, 4:01 PM
	HOBGOBLIN IS A AWESOME CHARACTER BUT HE HAS A COMPLICATED ORIGIN AND HE'S NOT "OLD SCHOOL" AND RAIMI LOVES "OLD SCHOOL" DUDE dellamorte1872 - 10/13/2009, 4:04 PM
	Damn,he should just keep it simple. Make Lizard the villain...the only villain and actually write a well-written story around it. Part one and two had only a single villain and were awesome movies. Part three had three villains(Harry turned good, at the end, but he was still a villain at some point), and look how that turned out. Stick to one and focus on story. That's what made these movies good, story. MyHeroAsh - 10/13/2009, 4:39 PM
	it was 3 villians and another chick! technically it was 4 "new" crucial characters. CAPT STACY was a cameo at best, that didnt count dellamorte1872 - 10/13/2009, 5:34 PM
	two is an acceptable ammount...no more, (example: X3 SUFFERED FROM THE SAME THING, AMONGST OTHERS) dellamorte1872 - 10/13/2009, 5:37 PM
	dellamorte - Are you Sam Raimi's personal agent? Or maybe supermike's brother? STOP POSTING THE SAME DAMN IDEAS! Hobgoblin came out in '82! How is that not old school? It's not 60's old school, but he's the best nemesis to come out of Spidey comics since the halcyon glory days as I explained above! Hobgoblin is a different type of "goblin", because he's not insane like Norman or revenge driven like Harry! It's all about the mystery of his identity and the dangerous knowledge of Norman's secrets that he's procured exclusively! If he wore a Halloween mask instead of Norman's ceremonial helmet, it would work to greater effect onscreen! He would need to look very similar to the comic book version for it to work! It may shock you to know this, but you're NOT the expert on all things Spider-Man!! Now what's your damn logic for having Electro team up with the Scorpion? MyHeroAsh - If Lizard is the only villain part 4 will fail miserably! He's just not an interesting or strong enough character to carry the film as the sole antagonist! The whole problem with Spidey 3 was with Venom! Had he not been there, more time could've been devoted to the Sandman! The guy's dangerous enough to take Spidey on his own! JonF - 10/13/2009, 5:47 PM
	I like lizard but I also think Vulture needs his own movie Rokrad - 10/13/2009, 8:16 PM
	yes back in the day is "old school", the 60's and 70's are what i bet he will focus on. THE 80'S ARENT RAIMI'S COMIC GENERATION, DIDNT HE MAKE THAT KINDA CLEAR WITH VENOM, DUH! SPIDEY FIGHTS ELECTRO FIRST AND SCORPION AND SPIDEY HAVE THE "CLIMAX" FIGHT IN THE FILM.WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A "TEAM-UP" LOL YOU MIGHTA LIKED THE LAST ONE BUT I DIDNT LOL. AND I AINT DISAGREEING I LIKE HOBGOBLIN BETTER THAN THE VULTURE FOR [frick]S SAKE BUT I BET RAIMI FEELS DIFFERENT. YOU DONT KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT SPIDEY EITHER @JONF, AND DONT [frick]ING FEIGN SUPERIORITY, ITS SAD DUDE dellamorte1872 - 10/14/2009, 6:24 AM
	scorpion, and lizard. at the end have the leftover symbiote attach to scorpion and make a LEGIT version of venom (II) stonyman45 - 10/14/2009, 8:24 AM
	We should get Lizard and Kraven in SM4 it's only LOGICAL!!! And if Kraven is in SM4, it's only LOGICAL that we get the chameleon in SM5!!! Throw in scorpion or electro and it would be great!!! Gerard Butler for Kraven The Hunter!!! Shaman - 10/14/2009, 9:28 AM
	GERARD BUTLER IS IDEAL FOR KRAVEN, I AGREE LOL. HOW DOES THE CHAMELEON CONNECT TO KRAVEN? I COULD SEE THE CHAMELEON BEFORE THOUGH EVEN THOUGH HES OK dellamorte1872 - 10/14/2009, 11:36 AM
	The Lizard is in. Kraven is weak though. What would they do? Have him hunt Spider-Man or the Lizard around New York? It just seems cheezy. Carnage could work though. Wasn't it Doctor Connors who created Carnage in the "Ultimate Spider-Man" comics? He used a leftover piece of the symbiote and Peter Parkers own blood (to give it that red look) and BOOM vampire-like symbiote monster that (if I recall correctly) didnt need a host. Read the books people! The answers are all right there! Makiveli21 - 10/14/2009, 11:49 AM
	dellamorte - You never said anything about a team-up - or anything else! Just "Electro/Scorpion"! That was my point! This has been going on for a year! We KNOW that Raimi likes the Vulture, but you post it everytime! Say something new!! Also, what does it matter if Electro teams up with the Scorpion or not if you'd still use them in the same movie? Raimi would still have to make time to feature both! I called you the "Spidey expert" because your constantly correcting me! I KNOW what I'm talking about! I read all of those Spidey stories from the 60's thirty years ago! D'ya think that someone with a collection of well over 20,000 comics needs to be corrected? And how exactly can an opinion be wrong? Apparently your opinions make up for not having read very many classics! I can tell from your prior posts that a lot of your ideas are derived from the 90's toon and not the source material! Have you ever even seen the Spidey animated series from the 60's? THAT version is even truer to the books than that Fox-produced, uneven 90's piece of crap! It was made by Saban, the same people who made the Power Rangers, for Christ's sake!! Stop telling me what wouldn't work and stick to elaborating on your own ideas! Raimi never said when he stopped reading Spidey; Venom and Hobgoblin debuted 5 years apart! Any real comics fan knows that 1982 and 1987 are two different eras! If you pay attention, you'll see that I always make the cut off point for my reading recommendations ASpM #300! That was where the classic stories stopped! Anything after that is too contemporized to be considered timeless, which is why I site Ditko's creations as the best to choose from; they're evergreen! The one exception to this rule is the Hobgoblin! Todd McFarlane and David Micheline created Venom, who was cool initially; however in the 90's he was changed into a parody of his former self! The sinister "Joker" smile was replaced with shark teeth, his tongue was exagerrated, and his eyes had a stupid frayed look instead of a smooth contour! We can thank Mark Bagley and Erik Larsen for that! At the time, they just couldn't draw! Then Tom DeFalco makes him into a non-hero as an excuse to give him his own book!! It showed poor judgment to use Venom so early in the franchise; this was Avi Arad's bright idea anyway! Just because Raimi didn't read the comics in the 80's doesn't mean that he can't or hasn't gone back and done research!!! He got the bell tower scene right, so obviously he's at least leafed through some of the 80's Spidey books!! BTW, Chameleon and Kraven are related! THAT'S how they connect! This wasn't revealed until the early 90's! See what I mean? Makiveli21 - See my above posts! If your siting Ultimate Marvel as a reference, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO GET TO READIN'! JonF - 10/14/2009, 2:14 PM
	Lizard is probably going to be in it. legder20 - 10/14/2009, 2:27 PM
	they're related? released in the 90's? pfft! RAIMI wont do that. RAIMI GOT THE CHAPEL SCENE WITH THE SUIT RIGHT B/C HE HAD RESEARCHED IT...HES NOT FAMILAR WITH THE CHARACTER, ARAD WANTED IT YOU ARE CORRECT, BUT ARAD WONT BE IN HIS EAR ANY MORE. OR SO RAIMI SAYS. SO IF THIS IS TRUE, I DOUBT HE WOULD TAKE IT UPON HIMSELF TO RESEARCH CHARACTERS IN THE 80'S JUST B/C HE MAY "DECIDE" TO USE THEM. HE'LL DO THE CHARACTERS HE KNOWS ALREADY AND LIKES, THE VULTURE IS AN OBVIOUS DECISION, WE WILL SEE HIM IN THE NEXT TRILOGY OF FILMS.... dellamorte1872 - 10/14/2009, 3:17 PM
	THEY'LL SHOW YOU, WHO THE VILLIAN IS, HIS ORIGIN AND THEN CONNECT THAT CHARACTER AND SPIDER-MAN IN EMOTIONAL WAYS TO FIGHT. A CONSISE HISTORY, NOT EVERY PIECE OF CONTINUITY AND INFO THEY CAN. IF KRAVEN AND CHAMELEON SHOW UP, THEY WONT BE RELATED...RAIMI IS A FAN HE ISNT A DIE HARD FAN, I THINK HE'S SHOWN US THAT WITH S3 dellamorte1872 - 10/14/2009, 3:44 PM
	dellamorte - I'm thinking in terms of progression. Hobgoblin is for later on! For now, we have plenty of old rogues to choose from, but I would really like to see the Gang War story adapted because it was a literary high point for Spidey! Also it would make perfect use of the Kingpin and Electro! All of this would need to be planned across multiple arcs and at least one of the next three films needs to play out as an ensemble, most likely part 5! This would keep the focus on Spidey's career in costume and take the focus off of Pete's personal life, which is sorely needed! JonF - 10/14/2009, 3:48 PM
	I THINK IF THE HOBGOBLIN POPS UP IT'LL BE IN A POSSIBLE 7TH FILM WITHOUT MAYBE THE CAST WE HAVE NOW WHO KNOWS MAYBE EVEN WITH OUT KINGPIN B/C OF THE DARDEVIL FILM YA NEVER KNOW. I JUST FOLLOW WHAT RAIMI SAYS SO I CAN TRY TO UNDERSTAND HIS PHILOSHOPY BEHIND EACH ENSTALLMENT AND I THINK THE VILLIANS I LIST ABOVE ARE VERY LIKELY CANDIDATES TO BE USED BY RAIMI dellamorte1872 - 10/14/2009, 4:13 PM
	IF YOU STOPPED READING AT AMAZING 300 THEN YOU NEED TO READ UP HOMIE. ALOT OF STUFF HAS HAPPEND TO GOOD OLD PETEY SINCE THEN AND YOU SHOULD CATCH UP. IVE READ THE CLASSIC STUFF AND HAVE KEPT READING THROUGH TODAY. AND ULTIMATE SPIDERMAN IS A GREAT INTERPRETATION OF THE PETER PARKER STORY BECAUSE ITS TADA MODERNIZED. LIKE THE MOVIES ARE. SEE WHERE IM GOING WITH THIS? DID YOU SEE WOLVERINE WEARIN BLUE AND YELLOW SPANDEX IN HIS MOVIE? NO. AND DONT BE SUPRISED IF THE SACRED AVENGERS IN THEIR CAPES AND WINGFEET LOOK ALOT LIKE THE ULTIMATES. SORRY DUDE ITS 2009. CIVIL WAR, SECRET INVASION, DARK REIGN, ULTIMATUM, GET WITH IT. Makiveli21 - 10/14/2009, 4:18 PM
	DOES HE SPECIFICALLY PRAISE CERTAIN CHARACTERS...LIKE SANDMAN AND VULTURE? OR CHASTISE CERTAIN CHARACTERS "PERSONALLY" LIKE VENOM? ANYONE? FIND PROOF GUYS... dellamorte1872 - 10/14/2009, 4:19 PM
	HEY MAN I READ TILL ROUGHLY 300, EXCEPT I ALSO READ STRAZINSKI.....I HATE THE "BRAND NEW DAY" DIRECTION, IT ERADICATED 20 YEARS OF CONTINUITY....NO NO....GIMME PROGRESSION dellamorte1872 - 10/14/2009, 4:32 PM
	BRAND NEW DAY WAS A BIT OF A STRETCH BUT IT OPENED UP ALOT OF OPTIONS FOR THE STORYLINE. NOW THEYRE EVEN TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE CLONE MESS. IM STILL INTERESTED ABOUT WHERE SPIDEY HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IM ALSO EXCITED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE. AS FAR AS THE MOVIES, I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO LET GO OF ANY CLASSIC STORYLINES BECAUSE GWEN STACY IS ALIVE. PERIOD. HOW DIFFERENT WOULD ALL OF THOSE CLASSIC BOOKS BE IF THE GOBLIN DIDNT KILL GWEN? HOW DIFFERENT WOULD PETER HIMSELF BE? THEY OBVIOUSLY THREW THE OLD BOOKS OUT THE WINDOW RIGHT ALONG WITH THE WEB SHOOTERS, SO WHY NOT EMBRACE THEIR INTERPRETATION FOR WHAT IT IS? A MODERNIZED VERSION. BRING ON CARNAGE. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, JUST TO MESS WITH PEOPLE LIKE JONF, BRING ON THE CLONES!!!!! JAKE GYLLENHAL FOR BEN REILLY!!! Makiveli21 - 10/14/2009, 5:12 PM
	Makiveli - I DIDN'T stop at #300! That's how I know the stuff that followed is a lot of rehashed garbage! I've been reading ever since! Hello? JonF - 10/14/2009, 5:50 PM
	NOTHING IN THE COMIC BOOKS IS HALF AS GARBAGE AS TOBEY SISSYBOY MAGUIRE DANCIN AROUND IN BLACK LIKE SOME EMO WHINEY LITTLE BITCH. OR HARRY BEIN EVIL AND GETTING HIS FACE BLOWN OFF BY A PUMPKIN BOMB, TO ALL OF THE SUDDEN FOR NO REASON WANTING TO HELP PETER AGAINST SANDMAN AND VENOM. THESE MOVIES TOTALLY SUCKED. SO IM NOT REALLY SETTING THE BAR TOO HIGH FOR THE FOURTH ONE. COME TO THINK OF IT, WOLVERINE SUCKED TOO, IF THEY WOULDA LEFT THE GIRL DEAD IT WOULD HAVE ADDED TO HIS BEEF WITH SABRETOOTH, BUT SINCE SHE DIDNT REALLY DIE, WHY WOULD HE BE FIGHTIN WITH SABRETOOTH AT ALL? AND THEN THEY KILLED HER AGAIN ANYWAY! THE POINT IS THESE MOVIES ARE JUST MODERNIZED INTERPRETATIONS THAT MAY LOOK LIKE THEY FOLLOW THE BOOKS ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT THEY REALLY DONT. IM HAPPY WITH HOW THE MARVEL UNIVERSE IS BEING WRITTEN IN THE COMICS BUT IVE BEEN TERRIBLY DISAPPOINTED BY THE MOVIES. Makiveli21 - 10/14/2009, 7:33 PM
	think aBout this - HOPEFULLY ONLY 1 out of RAIMI'S 6 PURPOSED SPIDEY FILMS IS BAD. THATS GOOD AVERAGES, SO HOPEFULLY THE NEXT 3 KICK-ASS dellamorte1872 - 10/15/2009, 8:23 AM
	I AGREE WOLVERINE ORIGINS SUCKS, BUT I ONLY LIKE/OWN X2 ANYWAY LOL....SAY WHAT Y'ALL WANT BUT IF WE ARE TALKING FRANCHISES...I THINK IN THE END SPIDER-MAN WILL BE THE ONE WHO HOLDS UP BETTER 20 YRS FROM NOW. X-MEN I DONT THINK WILL dellamorte1872 - 10/15/2009, 8:33 AM
	Makiveli - Are you having an arguement with your alter ego? LOL! I agree with everything you said! I have all of those comics you mentioned! Haven't you noticed that 99% of Spidey's best villains are from the 60's? How many came from the 90s? Cardiac, Carnage and Swarm! That's about it! His most memorable adversaries are from the Silver Age! I'm not sure you're appreciating the vintage of these stories! Ever since then, creative teams have just rehashed the same stuff over and over again! When was the last time you saw a new Fantastic Four villain? The clones almost got the Spidey comics cancelled, so how would that spite me? When things are changed to adapt material to a different medium it should be to enhance the final product! Raimi achieved that on many counts, so I'm not sure what your point is! I think you're misunderstanding me! A film franchise based on a property with decades of history should follow the source's chronology as closely as possible to avoid fiascos like SpM3!! If Carnage were ever featured, it would be likely be in Spider-Man 9! Again, Carnage is a foe based off of an existing foe from the past(Venom) who was created to be Marvel's equivalent to the Joker! We've gotten so far away from the source that it's turned into mud!!! THAT is why I keep siting the original stories, not because I ever stopped reading comics! JonF - 10/15/2009, 3:44 PM
	ONE MORE DAY - IS THE LAST SPIDEY STORY I WILL EVER READ, I READ "BRAND NEW DAY" UNTIL THE "FREAK" STORY. IT WAS THE WORST IDEA MARVEL HAS EVER HAD, "LETS MAKE MJ'S MARRIAGE TO PETER DISSAPPEAR" COME ON...THE LAST 20 YEARS OF CONTINUITY ARE TRASH! IT PISSED ME OFF MORE THAN WHEN THEY RESSURECTED NORMAN OSBOURNE. IT WAS TRULY SAD. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO MORLUN? IF PETER MADE THIS DEAL WITH THE DEVIL AND EVERYTHING "BACK TO BASICS" THAN WHERE IS MORLUN? HE'S DESTINED TO FACE PARKER, BUT NO NOW THE MYTHOLOGY IS [frick]ED TO THE EXTENT THAT EVEN HARRY OSBOURNE AND EDDIE BROCK ARE ALIVE AND WELL. HE HAS THE "MECHANICAL WEB-SHOOTERS" AGAIN I THINK, I DIDNT LIKE THE "ORGANIC WEB-SHOOTER" CHANGE BUT IT MADE SENSE WITH THE FILMS NOW, TO LINK THEM IN SOME WAY. TO ME PERSONALLY MARVEL [frick]ED THE CHARACTER AND MYTHOLOGY OF SPIDER-MAN UP TO MUCH. "THE CLONE SAGA" WAS FIXED AT THE LAST MINUTE AS TO NOT COMPLETELY DESTROY THE CHARACTER...BUT THE "BRAND NEW DAY" JUST KEEPS GOING ON...SO IM DONE dellamorte1872 - 10/15/2009, 4:16 PM
	I seriously wanna see them follow the way his storyline properly. I have been collecting since I was 4 and I am 31 now.Bring in Felicia Harding but not as BC. I think Lizard and Vulture should be the Villians.Even know he killed vulture in first movie. Damien666 - 10/17/2009, 3:00 AM
	what movie did you see? THE VULTURE AINT AROUND IN ANY OF THEM! dellamorte1872 - 10/17/2009, 7:26 AM
	LIZARD, MORBIUS AND KRAVEN. OSCURO - 10/17/2009, 11:47 AM
	CARNAGE IN VENOM MOVIE. OSCURO - 10/17/2009, 11:50 AM

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