SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Says Fans Hoping For [SPOILER] Twist Retcon Are "S*it Out Of Luck"

SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Says Fans Hoping For [SPOILER] Twist Retcon Are "S*it Out Of Luck"

In a new interview, Superman director James Gunn addresses the backlash to the movie's most divisive element, and it doesn't sound like any kind of retcon is planned...

By MarkCassidy - Jul 20, 2025 02:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman

For the most part, Superman remains pretty faithful to the established comic book lore of the character, with one major exception.

The movie begins with the Man of Steel suffering his first ever defeat at the hands of the Hammer of Boravia. When Krypto drags the hero to the Fortress of Solitude to be healed by the sun, the Caretaker Robots play the message his Kryptonian parents Jor-El (Bradley Cooper) and Lara Lor-Von (Angela Sarafyan) sent their son to Earth with. We then learn that the second half of the message was damaged in the crash.

Later on, Lex Luthor gains entry to the Fortress and The Engineer manages to decipher the corrupted part of the message. It turns out that Clark Kent's biological parents actually sent him to Earth as a conqueror, and specifically chose the planet because its people are weak and will be easily dominated. There's also the implication that Kal-El should impregnate as many of Earth's women as possible in order to build a "harem" and restart the Kryptonian race.

Luthor uses this information to turn the public against Superman, who is initially under the impression that the message must be fake - as are we. But no, in the DCU, Jor-El and Lara Lor-Von are far from heroic figures that are generally depicted in the comics and all previous adaptations of Superman's origin.

There's been some speculation that the message may still turn out to have been manipulated, but Gunn has now made it very clear that there will be no retcon.

Rolling Stone asked the DC Studios co-CEO how he'd respond to those hoping that the twist "will somehow get retconned or revealed as a double-secret trick or something," and he replied: "They’re shit out of luck!"

Gunn went on to explain why altering this big reveal would "undo the entire emotional arc of the movie." 

"That’s the whole point of the movie, that Superman thinks he is doing something because it is his destiny and his Kryptonian parents have set him out to do this thing, and along the way he discovers through the love of the people who are actually his parents that he’s doing these things not because of someone else, but because of himself. It’s like taking accountability in the deepest way possible that his morality is not based on some figure outside of himself, but on his own choices. I think it’s really beautiful in that way, and I’m not gonna change that."

"And I don’t really even think of Jor-El and Lara as being totally evil," he added. "They just have this mindset that humans are less than what they are. We’re sea turtles to them. They’re just trying to keep the Kryptonian genes alive."

Gunn was also asked if he has an explanation for why Supergirl didn't tell Kal-El about his parents' true natures.

"You’re assuming that everybody on Krypton is the same! And how would she know? She’s younger than him, so she wouldn’t know. She wouldn’t know anything about his parents."

What do you make of Gunn's comments? Are you okay with this change to Jor-El and Lara being permanent? Drop us a comment down below.

Superman stars David Corenswet as Clark Kent/the Man of Steel, Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor, Isabela Merced as Hawkgirl, Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner, Edi Gathegi as Mr. Terrific, and Anthony Carrigan as Metamorpho.

The cast also Pruitt Taylor Vince and Neva Howell as "Ma" and "Pa" Kent, and Milly Alcock's Supergirl has been confirmed to make her debut ahead of her own Woman of Tomorrow movie.

"And that’s a wrap," Gunn posted last year when filming concluded. "God bless our cast and crew whose commitment, creativity, and hard work have brought this project to life. I set out to make a movie about a good man in a world that isn’t always so much. And the goodness and kindness and love I’ve encountered on a daily basis on the set has inspired me and thrust me forward when I felt too spent to move on my own.

Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. It has been an honor. The destination has been Superman, but the journey has been the toil and the laughter and the emotions and ideas and magic we’ve shared together on set - and for that I am forever grateful."

You can check out a synopsis for the movie below.

"In his signature style, James Gunn takes on the original superhero in the newly imagined DC universe with a singular blend of epic action, humor and heart, delivering a Superman who’s driven by compassion and an inherent belief in the goodness of humankind."

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jst5
jst5 - 7/20/2025, 2:33 PM
Gunn throws a lot of bs out so who knows if what he is saying it true...but let's say it is... the Jor-El is pretty much the DCU version of the DCEU's Zod.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 7/20/2025, 3:04 PM
@jst5 - or maybe he’s just the DCU version of Jor-El.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/20/2025, 3:09 PM
@jst5 - ITS ok ..It only means we aré lucky the message glitched Out
...otherwise Supes would have rape us to death
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/20/2025, 3:11 PM
@jst5 - Obviously James Gunns interview with Rolling Stone has been doctored somehow by Lex Luthor.
jst5
jst5 - 7/20/2025, 4:41 PM
@WruceBayne - It's the same reasoning as Zod had in the DCEU.Maybe "Jor El" is actually Zod....but that would be too clever of writing...can't see Gunn being that clever.
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 7/20/2025, 2:34 PM
Hate what he did to Jor-El
Canyoublush
Canyoublush - 7/20/2025, 3:26 PM
@TheShape9859 - you’ll get over it. 😆
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 3:28 PM
@TheShape9859 - I'm calling it now. The reason why they said the message wasn't tampered with is because Cooper is really Brainiac who created the message.
Those two weren't really Supe's biological parents but images Brainiac created. In turn, the world turning against Superman makes it easier for Brainiac to conquer earth which will play out in the first Justice League.

Well eventually see Kal's true birth parents down the line.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 7/20/2025, 3:37 PM
@lazlodaytona - That would kind of negate the whole point of first film's ending.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 3:48 PM
@Highflyer - so be it. Just so his parents come out looking better
whoknows
whoknows - 7/20/2025, 4:08 PM
@lazlodaytona - @lazlodaytona - do not get your hopes up, small ville supes parents were on a similiar vibe and just based on Gunn saying this was one of the changes to the origin he could do that wouldn’t affect the Superman’s characteristics makes it clear it’s not something he’s going to change. The building blocks are there, Gunn knows Superman’s greatest power is his humanity and that’s set. There is no reason double back and say “sike, it was brainiac all along.” That wouldn’t be good writing, your parents are good, your parents are morally grey, your parents are good again! It’s brainiac who wants you to procreate? lol yea switching the message a 3rd time makes less sense the more and more I think on it.
Zeeboy
Zeeboy - 7/20/2025, 4:16 PM
@TheShape9859 - It's not like he was going to have a prominent role going forward lol
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 7/20/2025, 5:05 PM
@TheShape9859 - its been done before.
Laridian
Laridian - 7/20/2025, 5:15 PM
@lazlodaytona - Why do his birth parents need to come out looking better? The whole point was that they don't matter. Why can't people just enjoy a film for what it is, instead of what they wanted it to be?
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/20/2025, 5:19 PM
@TheShape9859 - I love it. Finally a director understands Superman: Krypton is just the explanation for the powers, Clark is the explanation for Superman and everything else.
OptimusInTime
OptimusInTime - 7/20/2025, 5:39 PM
@lazlodaytona - ooo cheeky. Love this idea
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 6:20 PM
@whoknows - well, don't think too hard on it
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 6:22 PM
@Laridian - I did enjoy it.
I'm also enjoying the fun of guessing.
I'm also enjoying breaking in my new Superman underwear.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 7/20/2025, 6:24 PM
@TheShape9859 -
It makes a ton of sense. He didn't say wipe out humanity. He said improve humanity by laying as much pipe as is Kryptonianly possible, ya know, like Wilt Chamberlain.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 6:25 PM
@OptimusInTime - well, at least somebody does 😜
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 6:26 PM
@Goldboink - like Wilt 🤣🤣
asherman93
asherman93 - 7/20/2025, 2:35 PM
I don't think they're gonna retcon the twist... but I do think that if we get any flashbacks to Krypton, it'll turn out that there was MORE going on behind the scenes than we thought.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 3:29 PM
@asherman93 - I'm calling it now. The reason why they said the message wasn't tampered with is because Cooper is really Brainiac who created the message.
Those two weren't really Supe's biological parents but images Brainiac created. In turn, the world turning against Superman makes it easier for Brainiac to conquer earth which will play out in the first Justice League.

Well eventually see Kal's true birth parents down the line.
tylerzero
tylerzero - 7/20/2025, 3:41 PM
@lazlodaytona -

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lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 3:50 PM
@tylerzero - sorry. Just wanted to get my point out 🤷🏻
Forthas
Forthas - 7/20/2025, 2:37 PM
Maybe in the sequel they will discover this message from Superman's uncle - Conan-El - offering him some sound advice....

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28ClungesLater
28ClungesLater - 7/20/2025, 2:54 PM
@Forthas - great film.
Forthas
Forthas - 7/20/2025, 2:58 PM
@28ClungesLater - Yes...and technically a comic book film yet I never see it appear among the greatest comic book movies lists.
28ClungesLater
28ClungesLater - 7/20/2025, 3:07 PM
@Forthas - my older brother shares the barbarian name! So we watched this, Conan the Destroyer and red Sonja growing up. My brother has a load of the comics!
28ClungesLater
28ClungesLater - 7/20/2025, 3:10 PM
@Forthas - and you're regarding the CBM list!
AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/20/2025, 2:37 PM
James Gunn thank you for Saving WB/DC Comics and DCU movies. Truly was a Mission Impossible but Gun did it anyway.


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Forthas
Forthas - 7/20/2025, 2:51 PM
@AllsGood - You clearly did not see how this movie ends!
AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/20/2025, 2:53 PM
@Forthas - James Gunn raised the Titanic.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 7/20/2025, 3:02 PM
@Forthas -
Forthas
Forthas - 7/20/2025, 3:13 PM
@AllsGood - I am there!
RockReigns
RockReigns - 7/20/2025, 2:38 PM
Even in Smallville, Jor-El killed Lana and then Jonathan to make Clark sacrifice getting his abilities back.

He’s a dick in general.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/20/2025, 3:22 PM
@RockReigns - Ironically, Jor-El AI was voice by Terrence Stamp on Smallville, aka General ZOD!!!!
Canyoublush
Canyoublush - 7/20/2025, 3:27 PM
@RockReigns - someone gets it. 👍🏿
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 7/20/2025, 3:32 PM
@RockReigns - I hate that Smallville had any influence on this film.

The 'Luthorcorp' name from Smallville Gunn used is dumb because Lex would see himself above his father and his last name.

Lexcorp means he became great on his own in his eyes.
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