PACIFIC RIM Director Guillermo Del Toro Addresses TRANSFORMERS Comparisons

PACIFIC RIM Director Guillermo Del Toro Addresses TRANSFORMERS Comparisons

In response to recent comments from Michael Bay (Transformers) bashing "rip-off" robot-centered movies, Guillermo del Toro talks about how his upcoming film Pacific Rim is very different from the multi billion dollar franchise.

By PaulRom - Apr 18, 2013 11:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Sci-Fi
Source: The Hollywood Reporter



Both directors Michael Bay and Guillermo del Toro have been at CinemaCon this week; the former is promoting Pain & Gain, while the latter is representing Pacific Rim. During Bay's presentation, he talked about his Transformers film and how there have been some "rip-off" robot movies. He didn't name any titles, but he was likely referring to recent films Battleship and Real Steel. Of course, many were wondering if Bay was referring to Pacific Rim as well, but insiders close to him "highly doubt it". Regardless, speaking with The Hollywood Reporter, Guillermo del Toro talked about the many differences between the two blockbusters. "We are far, far, far away from that in a very willing fashion. For good or bad, this is my movie. This is my universe and my creation, and I do not create through comparison."

Del Toro then seemingly takes a jab at Michael Bay's approach to Transformers, saying, "The fights don't occur in well-lit, supercool, car commercial-looking environments. They occur in the middle of a raging sea storm or in a savage snowstorm. They happen in a universe that is incredibly saturated. And to some degree, the source of all artificial life is Frankenstein." Finally, he jokingly adds that his Pacific Rim robots would take down any robot "in the history of mankind in a toe-to-toe showdown." What do you think of the two directors' comments?

Pacific Rim opens July 12th. Transformers 4 is slated for a June 27th, 2014 release.










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Name
Name - 4/18/2013, 12:19 PM
I was watching X-men the animated series the other day and the size of the sentinels fluctuated from scene to scene. This comparison between transformers and pacific rim just makes me think of how big i want the sentinels to be. Pacific rim sized please.
shamo
shamo - 4/18/2013, 12:22 PM
skyscraper sized sentinels would be pretty dam cool.

and Pacific Rim > Transformers. don't care if i havent' seen it yet, all i need to know is GDT made it.
nordberg
nordberg - 4/18/2013, 12:28 PM
He's got a point about Bay's visual style. That said, I'm curious to see how Bay's Pain and Gain pans out. I can't imagine a more ill-suited directory for that property. It really needed a Gus Van Sant or Guy Ritchie, not a Michael Bay.
BlueMex
BlueMex - 4/18/2013, 12:36 PM
who ever compared it in the first place was not thinking, They dont even look alike at all!
40oz
40oz - 4/18/2013, 12:36 PM
I like Bays "well-lit, supercool, car commercial-looking environments" alot. So what point did GDT make? Oh, and bring on Pain & Gain!
CaptainObvious
CaptainObvious - 4/18/2013, 12:38 PM
Yes, Bay. Transformers was entirely your own movie based on your own original idea. It's not like it was based on some toyline from the 80's or anything.

I swear to God, Bay is a dumbass. I hate him as both a director and a human being.
40oz
40oz - 4/18/2013, 12:38 PM
Del Toro should of made At the Mountains of madness or Hellboy 3. Why oh why go for a movie that is monsters vs robots
Minato
Minato - 4/18/2013, 12:43 PM
Pacific Rim bots over all bots of all time????

I got Voltron> Prime> Stark> even the Megazord over any Jaeger.









In the case of Optimis he is sentient life and can out maneuver and fight and user controled bot

In the case of Stark if they can make "Jaegers" then Stark can make a better version.

In the cases of Voltron and Megazord they can be broken down and team up on a single Jaeger

I know your trying to promote your movie GDT but come on... really???
lntrn8
lntrn8 - 4/18/2013, 12:45 PM
whatever he is saying . . . F Michael Bay!
PsyGuy
PsyGuy - 4/18/2013, 12:53 PM
THe less like transformers, the better!
jessepostal
jessepostal - 4/18/2013, 1:02 PM
You people love to hate Bay, but the guy makes some beautiful looking movies. Sure they may not be up to par with fantastic acting or delve into deep science fiction but the guy has an eye for making beauty with a camera. And to the people that don't consider movies their life love that. Its entertainment its suppose to be fun.
113
113 - 4/18/2013, 1:03 PM
I love Gypsy Danger and Stryker Eureka as much as the next guy, and I'm not defending Michael Bay's terrible movies, but Optimus Prime owns everything as a matter of principle. He's defeats robots much larger than him all the time.
AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 4/18/2013, 1:07 PM
BlueMex@ Exactly
exe
exe - 4/18/2013, 1:15 PM
One shall stand, One shall fall..
Genaro
Genaro - 4/18/2013, 1:17 PM
Optimus can take a planet sized Transformer.
Twelvemonkeys
Twelvemonkeys - 4/18/2013, 1:20 PM
Never thought I'd see people comparing Bay and Del Toro. Bay DREAMS of matching anything on the level that Del Toro produces. Mr Bay, kindly take your shit Transformers, your shit TMNT reboot and anything else you have cooking, and [frick] off. Cheers.
KingEmperor
KingEmperor - 4/18/2013, 1:20 PM
They all copied Robot Jox.
CaptainObvious
CaptainObvious - 4/18/2013, 1:21 PM
@BboiBlack- So Bay will win because I see him for the racist, misogynistic, greedy sack of scum that he is?
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 4/18/2013, 1:22 PM
I still don't understand the comparisons, and "it's like Transformers because it has robots derp" is not an excuse :P
TerminalVoyd
TerminalVoyd - 4/18/2013, 1:22 PM
@TheCaptain - 4/18/2013, 12:23 PM

"Well I just lost respect for this guy. Look we all know Michael Bay is a hack, but for this guy to come out and trash talk another director's work to make his work look better just is sad. Now I won't be seeing Pacific Rim this summer. I'll wait till it's on the movie channels."

Um... what are you smoking? In no way did he trash talk. The Transformers fights do happen in well lit, supercool and commercial environments. That's the way Bay likes it. All del Toro was doing was drawing a distinction between the way his film is framed tonally and Bay's Transformers.

In short, the Pacific Rim Jagers and the situations they fight are not sexy. There'll be no hot chick emerging from the smoke, mugging at the camera through artfully smudged makeup and miraculously intact clothing amidst a sea of automotive product placements on two legs. Pacific Rim is going to be a lot dirtier and a lot less pretty.

The "seeming jab" note the word "seeming" is something made up by the author of this article. It's not something you'll find in the source article. In short, there wasn't actually any jab.
MisterBabadook
MisterBabadook - 4/18/2013, 1:23 PM
So every robot that engages in some sort of CG action is a Transformers rip-off?
jessepostal
jessepostal - 4/18/2013, 1:25 PM
@youngthanos, have u never enjoyed a sunset?? Never go see the sights on vacation? Same thing. Stop thinking and have some dumb fun, you might enjoy it.
jerryblake
jerryblake - 4/18/2013, 1:33 PM
"The fights don't occur in well-lit, supercool, car commercial-looking environments"

he basically showed Bay a middle finger
Greengo
Greengo - 4/18/2013, 1:46 PM
Let's wait to determine capabilities until we see what the Jaegers can do.
Tevii
Tevii - 4/18/2013, 1:47 PM
i dont see this as him bashing Bay at all. He is pointing out that its a different feel and setting meant to be aimed at a more mature demographic.

at least thats how i read it

and its hardly a "rip-off" when there have been giant robot movies, animation and comics since Godzilla
Greengo
Greengo - 4/18/2013, 1:47 PM
TEAM GDT LOL
CyberBishop
CyberBishop - 4/18/2013, 1:50 PM
Bay needs to STFU with his stupid slow mo in every other scene.. Jeez..
datNAMEtho
datNAMEtho - 4/18/2013, 2:12 PM
New trailer.
spartan6888
spartan6888 - 4/18/2013, 2:31 PM
Every body says its "Transformers vs. Godzilla". I don't see the Transformers, I see Gundam, or Robot Jox.
TheAbomination
TheAbomination - 4/18/2013, 2:49 PM
Bay can calm the fvck down. del Toro knows what he's doing. He's a visionary director, not some hack that makes two and a half hour movies about explosions for no reason.
lntrn8
lntrn8 - 4/18/2013, 2:57 PM
@batz11 - Now you're thinking!

I love the girls of the Pacific Rim!

AC1
AC1 - 4/18/2013, 4:32 PM
I was never really interested in watching this, but now that I know Michael 'The Hack' Bay is complaining about 'rip-offs', I want to watch it. Michael Bay didn't create robots or action movies, he didn't even create the Transformers. All he's done is bastardized them, and knocked cinema down a peg or two.

I can immediately tell that Pacific Rim will be different than Bay's Transformers films for one simple reason - Del Torro can direct movies! Del Toro, like any director worth his salt, knows that special effects are a tool to aid in telling a story. Bay, being the talentless fool that he is, thinks the reverse: that the story is a tool to show off special effects. Dear Lord I can't stand his movies.
AC1
AC1 - 4/18/2013, 4:36 PM
Fast cars. Muscles. Objectified women. Immaturity. Unnecessary explosions. Poorly written dialogue. Lack of actual plot. No subtext or depth of any kind. Maybe a racist joke or caricature if you're extra unlucky.

That describes pretty much every film Michael Bay has or ever will make.
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