ComicBookMovie.com Start A Fansite!
Home : News : Videos : Pictures : Polls : Contact : Editor's Tools
You are not currently logged in. Login

Brett Ratner Doesn't Care What "Comic Book Geeks" Think

In a candid interview, the director of X-Men: The Last Stand discusses how comic book fans have "nothing else going on" in their lives.
If you're like many comic book movie fans, you were dissappointed with Brett Ratner's stab at the X-Men franchise in X-Men: The Last Stand. Well, if you disliked Ratner before, wait until you hear what he has to say about you and your fellow comic book movie fans:











"When you talk about 'people,' you're talking about comic book geeks. The best advice I got from [X-Men and X2 director] Bryan Singer was: 'Whatever you do, do not read the Internet while making this movie. They were cursing me out the whole time. You can't please everybody, Brett. There's no rules here.'

"I did make rules for myself. I did not want to put one scene in this movie that wasn't existing in a comic book. So they can't say that I made something up - like killing Professor X, which they gave me such shit about, meanwhile he died five times [in the comics]. That comes with the territory.

"All the people who said 'Brett Ratner is the Antichrist and I hope he dies a slow, painful death' are all paying to go see my movie. I don't mind that passion, and I don't agree, but I love a person who's passionate about a comic book character. You gotta give it up for that guy, 'cause he's got nothing else going on in his life. [Laughs] But he's passionate about that, and that's good. That's important. I think that keeps people going."

Well, was he correct? Is everything in X-Men: The Last Stand straight out of the comic books?
10 Yes
18 No
Brent Sprecher
9/8/2009
Pop Eater

DISCLAIMER: This posting was submitted by a user of the site not from Comic Book Movie editorial staff. All users have acknowledged and agreed that the submission of their content is in compliance with our Terms of Use. For removal of copyrighted material, please contact us HERE.

228 Comments

Proves he's an idiot, he listens to Singer. Two peas in the idiotic pod.
SirPrize - 9/8/2009, 3:10 PM
[EDIT: Second!!!]

at a boy Brett!!
RaythBane - 9/8/2009, 3:11 PM
LOL!!! ; D
LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 3:11 PM
RaythBane @ Now don't you look silly lol!
LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 3:12 PM
mother fuker!!!!!
grif - 9/8/2009, 3:13 PM
shaddup...lol
RaythBane - 9/8/2009, 3:14 PM
What's so wrong with wanting to see a decent film (plot, character development, pacing, etc...) that's true to the original story-line? Does that make me a comic-book geek with "...nothing else going on in [my] life..."? Face it Ratner, your 'interpretation' BLEW and you have no one to blame but yourself! Suck it Brett, you arrogant, eogtistical bastard!
loganoneil - 9/8/2009, 3:15 PM
Heh heh. ; D

LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 3:16 PM
ah alot of mother fukers and silly gits,hole on what was the point i was making oh thats rigth there wasnt any l m ao
lc - 9/8/2009, 3:16 PM
haha thank you sirprize! so many people talk about how bat Ratner is and how good Singer is.. as far as the x-men movies go.. i hate them both!

anyway this is a bit off topic but I have 20 VIP codes for the Ultimate Alliance 2 site. I know it is pretty close to the release of the game but if anyone wants one just let me know.
HeyVanity - 9/8/2009, 3:17 PM
"You can't please everybody, Brett.

Huh, well Ratner pleased no one with this crappy movie! not even non-comic book fans or even critics liked this movie! Still, if the idiot wants to blame us "geeks" for the fact he wouldnt know how to make a decent movie if he tried then who cares, lol!
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 3:17 PM
Hahaha this guys sucha douche

it's fine he won't get my well earned stripper money....no sir not till I get an apology :D
SdProphet - 9/8/2009, 3:18 PM
Favreau is a true comic fan and he did Iron Man justice. Note to ass-hat Brett, you don't see the trail of tears for Favreau. If Brett did such a perfect adaptation why isn't he still working on the franchise, oh he's with Fox. Ooopsie. Whatta shitbag.
SirPrize - 9/8/2009, 3:19 PM
"All the people who said 'Brett Ratner is the Antichrist and I hope he dies a slow, painful death' are all paying to go see my movie."

No Im not.

And never will.


Dickhead.
Skyh00k - 9/8/2009, 3:19 PM
I actually liked X-Men Last Stand, but Rattners comments are stupid, it’s obvious he has no respect for the public that fallow the characters and made them relevant in the first place.
Verdugo - 9/8/2009, 3:19 PM
As for Singer, maybe he should have taken a look on the internet because IMO his X-Men movies were almost as bad as Ratners!!!
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 3:19 PM
I happened to like all the xmen movies I thought they were great and entertaining and I've been reading and collecting comic books for years.
Kratos6 - 9/8/2009, 3:20 PM
I can tell you one thing thats not in the comics... Wolverine IS NOT 6ft 2inches tall!!!, but I guess that is Singers fault... sorry just had to point that out.. I like Hugh but all in all Wolverine is known for being a short badass!!! In truth that was the one thing I could never forgive in all of the films. Maybe I am being pety, but I've been called much worse!!!
sith13 - 9/8/2009, 3:22 PM
I was actually willing to see his point until the highlighted bit! Good stuff Brent;)

I do see were he is coming from i have to say, from one perspective. From another he should just admit that he made a sub par movie and stop being an arrogant prick. The difference between him and Singer is, aside from the changes Singer made, he managed to make one good and one great movie. Ratner cant say the same so he's just bitter and looking to defend himself against us "geeks". Well, i got news for ya fatso, It wasnt just the CMB fans that slated your movie, you show me one 4 star review of X3 and I'll show you a donut you wouldn't enjoy.
Rorschach01 - 9/8/2009, 3:22 PM
Is that an Irish donut?

Ror does have a point about non comic readers that didn't like the XMen but a lot did enjoy Iron Man. It's all about the material.

Sith13 - Hugh did a great job, I'll never knock him.

Brett needs to remember if it wasn't for us comic geeks his ass wouldn't have a job.

At the next Comic Con, Brett needs to be on his knees and give everyone a 'mouth hug' as everyone walks into the convention.
SirPrize - 9/8/2009, 3:27 PM
What an asswhipe.
Spilox - 9/8/2009, 3:27 PM
he doesnt care what we think.....we dont care if he lives or dies...call it even!!!
Kes - 9/8/2009, 3:28 PM
The Last stand isnt horrible. But saying a comment like that is just stupid. Its like Tim Burton saying screw you to all the strange teenage goth girls that are his fanbace. Its shooting yourself in the dam foot.
JaySchluffy - 9/8/2009, 3:28 PM
Theres some bits i really enjoyed in X3 but also there was some bits in WOLVERINE i enjoyed too lol, if you put both them movies together you get a good X-movie!

Heyyyyy i wouldn't be me IF i didn't have a POP at SN'ORIGINS!

X-MEN (FIRST CLASS) REBOOT (Stand alone movie) Make a X-MEN GEM FOX dammit!

ORIGINAL X-MEN!!! ; )
LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 3:34 PM
haha, yes sir, its a donut full of shamrocks begorrah!

I didn't hate X3 either, it just failed coming off such a great movie in X2 which managed to combine action and character very well. X3 was too short, too studio [frick]ed with, too many characters with one line of dialog, too much abysmal acting from Halle Berry. Anyone notice how much better she was as Storm in X2? Wonder why that was....
Rorschach01 - 9/8/2009, 3:34 PM
What a tool. My friends who saw The Last Stand with me and who could give a crap whether this was a comic book adaptation or not, laughed out loud at several points during the film.

Ratner: you blew your chance of making one of the best comic book films ever. This should have been EPIC, but it was not even close to the same quality as Singer's films. Dick.
ecksmanfan - 9/8/2009, 3:35 PM
x3 was ok but the actors hardly have lines the only one that had lines was huge jackman
flames809 - 9/8/2009, 3:36 PM
I didn't hate X3 either. It was an entertaining action flick, but it was a horrible X-men movie, you know what I'm saying?
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/8/2009, 3:36 PM
TYLER @ I do man! ; )
LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 3:36 PM
In my opinion--and I consider myself a huge comic book fan, but do not consider that a reason to be classified as a "geek"--Ratner is just opening himself up to even more criticism and fan backlash by saying what he's said. He comes off as a "frat boy" and I can't see how he could be considered for any future comic-related projects. Of course, maybe he realizes that (or it's already been spelled out for him) and he's just trying to make himself look cool by distancing himself from X-Men: The Last Stand.

Furthermore, his statement, "I did not want to put one scene in this movie that wasn't existing in a comic book," is just as egregious as his other statements. This movie was nothing like anything we've seen in established X-Men continuity.
Brent Sprecher - 9/8/2009, 3:37 PM
That is a truth about the film he made, in that 96% of the stuff in the movie was pulled from a comic. Where he failed, and quite miserably I might add, was in combining those instances and also, by using way too many different X-stories. I'm not standing up for this dickhead, as I am part of the crowd that wants to see him hanging from a tree by the neck, but just wanted to throw that all out there.

sith13, I agree that it is a petty issue. It bugs me to an extent too, but nowhere near enough for me to use it as any basis for forming an opinion about the quality of the movies on. So I'd say that is something you should let go of, or it least not allow it to impact your opinion of the movies overall. I justify it like this, they cast a guy who looks reasonably like him, does a great job portraying him, and LOVES to be the character. We would be lucky if every actor had that level of commitment and respect for a character.

Rorsch, LMAO... donut you won't enjoy... *tear*
TheMyth - 9/8/2009, 3:37 PM
I dont know, his point seems valid. If someone actually believes he's the antichrist and deserves to die becuase of a movie, they probably dont have anything else going on, I didnt like the movie, and I dont like him, but I dont really care beyond that, because I have other things going on.
JiMb0 - 9/8/2009, 3:37 PM
X3 isnt bad its just misdirected, its like if you left a child alone with your most precious toys, then found some firecrackers and taped them together, then charged you for the firecrackers and made you watch.
JaySchluffy - 9/8/2009, 3:37 PM
Ror - He might like it if you gave it some Cassidy glazing. LMAO.
SirPrize - 9/8/2009, 3:38 PM
They had a good set up, but they executed it extremely poorly. It just wasn't handled well at all.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/8/2009, 3:40 PM
Such a tool.

I agree with him up until the last paragraph. Thanks to the internet, the fanboys don't have to spend their dollars watching subpar movies though. So the joke's on him.

I didn't think X3 was BAD. But it wasn't good. He's just being a whining bitch about it.
LexLuthor - 9/8/2009, 3:40 PM
hey lets all(one by one) list things that were not in the comics and ended up in Brett Crapner's X-men:last stand

1) Juggernauth being a mutant
(because he was affected by a mutant who strips other mutants of their powers...as far as i know Juggernath's well know abiltites all derive from magic)

next....
Kes - 9/8/2009, 3:41 PM
Yes more of a reason to smack him when I see him. One for this comment and Two for putting the Xmen in the same place that Street Fighter was placed in... The trash. There was so much that could of been down with the franchise, it could of be AMAZING! ONE OF THE BEST ACTION MOVIES EVER! but no.... we got someone who made Cyclops a Bitch and then killed him. I mean Cyclops was a Boy Scot but never a bitch. Juggernaut was weak, he didn't even fight Colossus. ICEMAN DIDN'T EVEN SLIDE TROUGH THE AIR ON ICE! HOW IN THE HELL DONT YOU MAKE THAT SCENE? the only Sentinel you show is the Shadow of a head in he danger room, which you didnt even really highlight on. THE DANGER ROOM? HOW DONT YOU HIGHLIGHT THE DANGER ROOM? I could go on but I wont, since I have much more in my life to do. But never Fear, Masters in Film, Almost complete. I WILL get my hand on a marvel franchise, and show Brett Ratner's how it should be handled or die trying lol.
CrashTest - 9/8/2009, 3:41 PM
There were bits of all three X-Men movies that I liked but overall i didnt actually enjoy any of the movies and agree with LEE...i want a reboot!!! :)

And dammit, I want some sort of costume instead of those bland identical leather outfits!
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 3:44 PM
Ratner is so full of it! Yes, I do think there is perhaps too much crap being said by fans and not enough intelligent debate, and I doubt he's the "Antichrist" because that would give him too much power, but let's face it: his movie has nothing to do with the comics, so his statement is bogus.
Bijous - 9/8/2009, 3:45 PM
I would like to see the X-Men and the Brood.
SirPrize - 9/8/2009, 3:46 PM
I enjoyed Bits as well, I loved the NightCrawler opening. But a reboot would be most welcomed. please not Hally Berry as Storm. I would of much rather seen someone on the lines of Angela Bassett.
CrashTest - 9/8/2009, 3:48 PM
haha awesome. Bring the X-Men back CrashTest.

19 MUA2 official site VIP codes. let me know if you want one.
HeyVanity - 9/8/2009, 3:49 PM
Sir Prize-I also think Hugh did a great job, he pretty much does on anything he does... just me being petty..

TheMyth-Well I took the movies for what they were and did enjoy the first two movies a bit.. and I thought that Hugh did a great job on all of his takes on him, he was the only shining light other than Patrick Steward in my opinion. I should let the height thing go, but I can complain about a million other things about the movies so I just leave it at the height of wolvie, once again petty I know.. much respect to you on appreciating Hugh cause I do as well.
sith13 - 9/8/2009, 3:50 PM
@sith 13 i hear u...but as Myth said...i would rather someone who looks silmilar and cares about the character he is playing ....than someone who looks exactly like the character and doesnt give a shit!!!

Hugh Jackman should be thanked for his continuos interest in the role.

Brett Ratner's testicles should be squeezed in a drawer!
Kes - 9/8/2009, 3:53 PM
wow
AvengingAngel1022 - 9/8/2009, 3:55 PM
sith13 - I used to be petty about it too. He embraced this character and that deserves a honorable nod.

Singer picking him was the best thing Singer has ever done for the franchise.

He was on Jonathon Ross show on BBC, and he expressed how much he loves the comic book fans and the character. After watching serveral interviews and seeing how cool of a guy he is. I conceded and accepted that there is no one better to play the part.
SirPrize - 9/8/2009, 3:55 PM
is it unfair to say we want Hugh Jackman and Pactrick Stewart in a reeboot too? cuz i do!!!
Kes - 9/8/2009, 3:58 PM
I don't think the guy is out of line... honestly x3 was the worst of the three... but still no matter what he did a ton of y'all are still gonna complain and bitch and moan that "omg he didn't do this, and wtf this isn't word for word with the comic at all!" you think you can do better? go to film school and prove it... otherwise... respectfully express your disappointment and shut your yap!
Pockets713 - 9/8/2009, 3:59 PM
what an idiot, hey i dont agree with the death threats but x men 3 wasint good at all, personally i didnt like any of them bar a few scenes here and there, xmen needs to be rebooted in my opinion.
ukboy28 - 9/8/2009, 4:03 PM
I think...that Brett is off my christmas card list.
bubastis237 - 9/8/2009, 4:04 PM
I want costumes, lol!!!

xmenast
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 4:04 PM
I was pretty much with him up until he made the exclaimation, "he's got nothing else going on in his life". He should know thats a tired nerd stereotype.
longbowhunter - 9/8/2009, 4:05 PM
SirPrize and Kes I agree till the end. There is no other out there that I could think of for wolverine, probably till the day I die.. the 15th reimaginging of the x-men in the year 2030 I will still see Jackmans face there, even if the wolvie from the first comic I read jumped out of the page and acted in it himself. The guy has the love for him and that is respected big time on my part. He is just tall and thats the ONLY core nerd complaint I have of him.
sith13 - 9/8/2009, 4:09 PM
I have friends and family that went to see X3 that hated it. They had no idea what was going on or what was what,at times I didn't either. By the same token I have friends and family that went to see Iron Man that never heard of him and loved it. X3 didn't stick to the source material,Iron Man at least tried to . Hmmm?
Hawksblueyes - 9/8/2009, 4:10 PM
After rereading the article i actually have to agree with JimBo up there too..Anyone that actually did say those things about him probably doesn't have TOO much going on, haha. But thats no reason to lump us all together which he clearly has.

There are so many ways to look at these, and all CBM's. Some people are only interested in complete faithfullness to the comics, so even if a movie is made(X2) that deviates but has a great script and is true to the essence of the characters they dismiss it as a bad movie. Then there are those that are happy if even an attempt at being somewhat faithful is made, and the movie is a well made one. I guess i fall under that category. Then there are those that basically want the comic on the screen and nothing else matters to them. These are the people its hardest to argue with and in all likelihood, the ones that sit on the internet wishing death on people like Ratner.

REBOOTS ARE FOR SISSIES.
Rorschach01 - 9/8/2009, 4:11 PM
Brett Ratner is a dreadful director. I listened to the director commentary on one of those bland Rush Hour films and he was just basically admitting to not giving a [frick] about plot or continuity errors. He just seems like a cross between Michael Bay and Uwe Boll.
SoulAllFlush - 9/8/2009, 4:18 PM
i take great offense to this THE FANS HAVE NO LIVES bullshit.
grif - 9/8/2009, 4:20 PM
The X-FRANCHISE does not need REBOOTING!!!

But a STAND ALONE ORIGINAL X-MEN movie is a must!!!

[frick] FIRST CLASS 90210!!!

Damn, i wish they'd [frick]ing hurry up an make that X4 with CABLE! Heh heh.

Oh yeah plus good costumes like JOSH said!!!

The BLACK Leather look is OLD & BORING!

IF they make a X-MEN 90210, it'll be the FIRST X-movie i for one will never watch!!! [frick] that lol!

LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 4:20 PM
well i think he was an ok action director. even if he didn't direct the movie professor x and cyclops would still die cause that was the [frick]ing script. so blame the scriptwriter, not the director...
Denn1s - 9/8/2009, 4:23 PM
Leee you are saying you want the X movies to continue as is, and begin a new one with the original team to run along side it? Do you honestly believe in 100000000 years that would ever happen? The most you could hope for is a Mutant X style TV show or something.
Rorschach01 - 9/8/2009, 4:24 PM
We got a MUTANT X movie called WOLVERINE lol! (Joking)

ROR @ A stand alone movie could co-exsist, many franchises do it! If not,, then the whole X-franchise needs rebooting!!!

Or i'll wait 100000000 years! ; D

Argghhhh friggin' MUTANT X lol.
LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 4:29 PM
I'd rather they just do a First Class movie but not pay attention to the continuity of the previous X films.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/8/2009, 4:30 PM
I cant see how the X-Men franchise could continue without rebooting! It would take about an hour explaining how they could bring back Xavier and Cyclops (whats an X-Men movie without Cyclops!?!)

Id just like to see Magneto as an effective, evil villain rather than a doddery old man who lets be honest wasnt all that threatening (even though Mckellen is a great actor)

They should just use the Astonishing team and not go through all the hassle of origins etc. Id like to see Havok and Polaris introduced as well as Cable and perhaps Apocalyse! :)

TYLER: thats what id like to see - just like what theu did with 'Hulk' in 'The Incredible Hulk' - pretend the last 3 never happenned!
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 4:30 PM
Haha. He is a director. You all are forum posters. He has much more knowledge about that BUSINESS then you all do. Cut the guy some slack. There is not one thing he would've done that would've satisfied anyone. Several of you geeks keep speaking in generalities like 'plot and character development'. Oh, yea? That's helpful, no specifics, no suggestions, just some words you think sound professional when none of you could have done it better. If you want to blame anyone blame yourselves for getting so hyped up and ready to climax over an X men movie.

I don't blame the guy for defending himself against fanboy dweebs.
ThePrimera - 9/8/2009, 4:30 PM
JOSH @ CABLE and TIME TRAVEL can do much about anything lol! Of course first he'd come back to save CYCLOPS!

God, i hope we don't see MAGNETO an co for a fourth time if they make a X4, we need new blood!!!

Leave MAGS for the ORIGIN movie!

JOSH @ I like that idea, do THE HULK thing!!!

Hopefully they'll do that with the DD an F4 movies too, we don't need loads of ORIGIN movies again, INCREDIBLE HULK way is the way 2 go!
LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 4:33 PM
ThePrimera: are you Brett Ratner or just the guy he employs to make him donuts? ;)
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 4:33 PM
LUFFY you GEEK!!! ; D
LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 4:36 PM
lol!
LEEE777 - 9/8/2009, 4:36 PM
@joshw24

LOL Josh!! In fact I'm not! But hey what do I know, you must feel offended by my comments, did it strike a truth nerve? Dweeb.
ThePrimera - 9/8/2009, 4:37 PM
I have lived and continue to live a very fulfilling life all the while I have been passionate about many comic book characters.Ratner you are a felcher . you say blanket statements about me including me in your pathetic idea of us fans, the ones that fueled this industry along with great writers and artists . none of which includes you . in all honesty without insulting Mr. Ratner , he and Mr. Singer made bad movies .
undeadpool - 9/8/2009, 4:37 PM
WTF?! Ok he is now have become my most hated human being on this planet! Bloody idiot
dancingmonkey08 - 9/8/2009, 4:38 PM
Of course he would be offended by your comment. You basically insulted a bunch of us who didn't like X3.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/8/2009, 4:38 PM
well brett you tryed to make ppl happy on the movie though hey at least i care about the movie it was okay i dont hate it i just wish it was longer is all
Marvel Rules - 9/8/2009, 4:41 PM
'Brett Ratner is the Antichrist and I hope he dies a slow, painful death'

Hey he quoted me!
THEHAWK - 9/8/2009, 4:42 PM
ThePrimera: lol, not offended...just amused at the nonsense you're talking! id love to know what you enjoyed about X-3!?! but to be honest, im not too worried whether you think im a "dweeb" or not especially when you have the Power Rangers as your avatar (a show i watched when i was 5, lol!)

THEHAWK: haha! lmao! :D
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 4:42 PM
The Primera... another "can you do it better?" tool. If you must know, I am a film maker! Its not a career(yet) but i make films. I know something about the process. But even if i didn't your point is still ridiculous. All you have to be to be able to criticize a movie is a movie fan. No more, no less. If you can point to one film and say, "well, that was better than this one over here" then your qualifies to judge. I mean what are you saying here? That people who want better plot and character development don't actually know what those things mean? Are you aware of how silly that sounds?

Josh click on the Patrick Stewart article for a few suggestions as to how they can bring everyone back, no problem. All you need is some imagination..and I'm going to echo Ratner here and remind you that all of those characters have died countless times in the comics.

Leee name me one movie franchise that ran along side a rebooted one with the same characters.
Rorschach01 - 9/8/2009, 4:44 PM
Pockets you and I can say what we like. complaints included so don't be a bitch telling anyone to shut up.enjoy your freedom of speech while it lasts.
undeadpool - 9/8/2009, 4:45 PM
@ThePrimera
i would never take advice from a guy who has a "Power Rangers" Avatar!!!
Fu-ck Brett Ratner!!
Kes - 9/8/2009, 4:45 PM
Ive been thinking.......

The next time this Butt Plug gets a comic book film to "direct", We, "The Geeks" need , Nay, HAVE to boycott the film. WHATEVER it may be. Even if it is the COOLEST, Greatest, CBM EVAH!. A boycott of ass wipes movies is one sure way to get the studios attention, since we are the audience that pays $ for said movie and his salary. I for one WILL


N E V E R

Pay money to attend ANY film Sir Butt Munch has anything to do w/.


Way to make friends there , Douche Bag.


P S..
I know Im calling names like I apologized to Venkman for , but he Pissed me off.
Skyh00k - 9/8/2009, 4:45 PM
Guess it was exactly THE XMEN "LAST STAND" when he (B Ratner) DIRECTED the MOVIE ...
Gose - 9/8/2009, 4:48 PM
HAHAHHA funny... I liked X3 though, I could have been better though...

Any and all Watchmen fans should check FanFic!!!!!
TheCritic17 - 9/8/2009, 4:50 PM
No, Rorschac, I need not know you are a film maker. I am sure you are the best one out there though! Good luck to you!

ThePrimera - 9/8/2009, 4:52 PM
ROR: For some reason my Patrick Stewart article has been deleted! Maybe it was old news...!?! You areright about the characters dying countless times in the comics but it could be really difficult to go through all the explanations in a movie!
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 4:54 PM
@Primera...I am far from it my friend, just trying to do what i love. Anyway, thanks for responding so thoroughly to my last post.

Josh, i meant my one a bit further down the front page. I'll repost it here in a bit if you like..have to go get a cuppa! Im gonna watch a movie online in a mo, any recommendations? I found a cool site that pretty much stockpiles every movie from the last 20 years or so.
Rorschach01 - 9/8/2009, 4:56 PM
@skyhook good idea...but i doubt he'll ever get a comic-movie to do again.let's up the stakes here

Unknowingly to Brett Ratner...we watch movies other than comic-book movies (because ironically most of us have something else to do other than to wait on comic-movies to critique)...
So the next time any Brett Ratner movie comes out we Boycott!!!
so he'll see what we "geeks" used to do in our spare time....like watch Rush Hour 1,2&3. i prefer to watch Catwoman again than to see any new Ratner movie!

Brett Ratner...i swallow the spit i would've used on your grave...becuz you're not worth it!!!
Kes - 9/8/2009, 4:56 PM
I think killing off characters is cool, but not if it is going to cripple future movies.
Ryguy88 - 9/8/2009, 4:57 PM
Marvel fancast- which character gets ten minutes with Ratbag seeking a horrific fantasy revenge for all that have been slighted by this assweasel.
undeadpool - 9/8/2009, 4:58 PM
I'm far from the first person here to spew mad hate for Fatner. And forgive me if this was already said.

But where does this douchebag get off calling anyone a comic geek in a negative light when this human piece of rat shit made christmas cards of himself in a wolverine costume and sent them to all his (snicker) friends after he finally got the X-Men movie? I hear he pulled the same X-mas card shit when he was up for Superman also. Not only is he a closet case self loather, a total fkn hack, and a shit-stain of a human being. But he's also a completely unoriginal hump who even repeats his OWN ideas! A slow death is not slow enough. TO THE SARLAC PIT WITH HIM!! How bout that you fkn geek hater!
BillyBlack - 9/8/2009, 4:59 PM
How do I make things bold again??
TheCritic17 - 9/8/2009, 5:00 PM
Ratner you [frick]ing destroyed Leauge of Extradinary Gentlemen. You name should be banned on this website!
TheColonel - 9/8/2009, 5:01 PM
@undeadpool
Punisher would be cool to kick and torture his ass......
but Ghost Rider is my choice!!!
The "Penance Stare" will make him feel the pain of millions who watched X-3!!!
Kes - 9/8/2009, 5:02 PM
1 thing a about x3 was that it felt like the movie was rushed. Many elements could have been worked on further. Cyclops death, Juggernauts powers. Rogue's powers. It was almost like he was rushing just to make the execs happy. That's why most fans are unhappy. It was a good movie, but not great.
StrangemannX09 - 9/8/2009, 5:08 PM
Punisher is busy right now
undeadpool - 9/8/2009, 5:10 PM
ThePrimera: Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. However stupid it might be. You don't have to be a film expert to dislike a movie.

It's an art form, and artist need to understand rejection as well as praise.
LexLuthor - 9/8/2009, 5:10 PM
ROR: no worries, ill go check it out now! whenever i mention a movie you always seem to have seen it so im not sure what to reccommend, lol! Reign Over Me, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, 3:10 To Yuma and The Bank Job are some of the most recent good movies Ive watched! :)
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 5:11 PM
i say Barracuda
undeadpool - 9/8/2009, 5:11 PM
I say screw him ... I have time to do other things ... what a douche bag

Now where's my drink
thegreek - 9/8/2009, 5:12 PM
oh and ROR i see why my article was now deleted...its the same as yours, lol! :D
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 5:14 PM
I didn't think it was possible, but i hate Brett (rat-bastard) Ratner even more! I was duped into seeing X-3 three years ago and this comment brings back that bad taste in my mouth upon leaving the theater in '06. Screw you Ratner! You couldn't film a dude taking a crap, if he had eaten raw chili and an egg salad sandwich!

MAMMA MIA!
supermarioworldE - 9/8/2009, 5:14 PM
HECK, AFTER FOLLOWING SINGER'S X MEN AND X MEN 2, ANY DIRECTOR WOULD BE UNDER THE GUN, AND RATNER,TONS OF PRESSURE WITH FANS. HEY, I UNDERSTAND HIS VIEW..I THOUGHT HIS TAKE WAS OK, NOT GREAT BUT HE DID THE BEST HE COULD. FANBOYS WILL BASH HIM, HECK I WASNT TOTALLY PLEASED WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES HE MADE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. PERSONALLY, I HOPE THEY HIRE ZACK SNYDER, THAT GUY PAYS CLOSE ATTENTION TO SOURCE MATERIAL,YEAH RATNER TOOK SOME THINGS AND EVEN SCENES DIRECTLY FROM THE COMIC BOOK, BUT HE TOOK JUST AS MANY LIBERTIES AS WELL.
GUNSMITH - 9/8/2009, 5:17 PM
@josh: The Bank Job was one of the best films of 2008
TheCritic17 - 9/8/2009, 5:20 PM
What a douche.
SlaughterHouse - 9/8/2009, 5:23 PM
the only positive was all the characters. angel, iceman, juggernaut, etc.
texasboy - 9/8/2009, 5:24 PM
CRITIC: yeah, i only saw it a few weeks ago (whilst building up my blu-ray collection!) and loved it! i know some reviews were a bit mixed but i thought it was excellent! another great British movie is Eden Lake! You should definitely check it out!
joshw24 - 9/8/2009, 5:31 PM
You know, up until Batman Begins, then TDK I was a pretty casual comics fan - those movies blew my imagination open again. Had been years since I picked up a book (I went through a pretty heavy phase in my early teens when I was WAY into it).

But Xmen was always my favorite.

So when you're given enough money to feed, clothe, and immunize most third world countries in order to spray your wet dream up there all over the screen and boss people around to make the thing you want to make. And when it's the public, and the fanbase that nursed, for many years, the material that you've been handed to make your wet dream out of, I think you'd better do a hell of a great job.

I will not say Rattner did a horrible job, but he did not do a hell of a great job, and he had EVERYTHING going for him - it almost didn't even need avertising. And what a crybaby - he put himself out there, he is famous (or now infamous lol), he can suck it up. The thing did well financially, but with how rabid the fans were at that point, any movie would've done pretty well $ imo.

The thing was an overall critical failure - keep that in mind when trying to blame everything on "comicbookgeeks" Ratface.
48and2 - 9/8/2009, 5:44 PM
http://roosterteeth.com/comics/strip.php?id=847
TheJester - 9/8/2009, 5:55 PM
Brett Ratner should just quit making movies and stop whining like a little bitch.
Bandrews1 - 9/8/2009, 5:58 PM
I love how the evil mutants in X3 all had guns and tattoos. ALL OF THEM. lol
lowflams3137 - 9/8/2009, 5:58 PM
I wasn't gonna say anything because everyone that has posted has already nailed it, however I think Bret Ratner who is the hollywood version of the girls gone wild scumbag and Michael Bay should be thrown in the elevator of the Sears Tower, take them to the top floor, and cut the damn cables. That would be a Ratner film I would enjoy seeing.
ASSASSIN666 - 9/8/2009, 6:10 PM
@josh: I will thanks man!!!
TheCritic17 - 9/8/2009, 6:18 PM
ratner can kiss my ass it isn't our fault he made a crappy movie
dogchasingcars - 9/8/2009, 6:19 PM
@ASSASSIN, You took the words right outta my head, right down the elevator shute with both these dirtbag directors! And I ain't joking one bit! Arrogant pissant pricks! It's we the comic book fans that made these characters into household names!

Brat Ratturd, says that comics are the only thing we got in our lives when I would say a lot of us fans on here have successful jobs, wives and kids. Like we ain't got no life! FTW!

I for one have such a busy successful life I don't hardly have time to eat or sleep most days! I truly wish with all my might that he would just quit making movies, period! It pisses me off that I even saw one of his movies and contributed to his money coffers!
What a RAT-TURD!
DDD - 9/8/2009, 6:33 PM
Brett Fagner needs to go slit his wrist nuff said.
DeadPoolTX - 9/8/2009, 6:41 PM
this is what made him a bad director
bleedthefreak16 - 9/8/2009, 6:45 PM
um.. he's not lying. truth hurts, geek's. cant please everyone.. so why would a person like him, in that position care what a person who wears superhero t-shirts everyday (who also spends most his time drawing cartoon characters.. badly, and wore aluminum claws to see wolverine) thinks?

fcuk rat-ner.. and the opinions on lames (geeks)
InFamouslyCool - 9/8/2009, 6:46 PM
DDD- Damn straight!
ASSASSIN666 - 9/8/2009, 7:01 PM
ok i give him that of wat he said of professor x but wat about cyclops? and ddd ur right but i dont have a job since im in skool nor kids not yet
flames809 - 9/8/2009, 7:08 PM
and did ya all know he made wolverine the main character threw the whole movie
flames809 - 9/8/2009, 7:22 PM
ratner may gotten his scenes from the comics but he made one major flaw.
he didn't have it make sense!
when you make a comic book movie, one must be sure that the audience believes it can happen.
but the crowd already believes that a person cannot rise from the dead so you have to steadily plant the seed of doubt in their minds and let it grow.
i am not saying killing professor x or cyclops off in one film is a good thing, but if ratner had waited and if x3 had done really well, you then kill off people who are SUPPOSED to die.
Ratner had his chance and he gave it an honest to god shot, but he royally screwed up.
no he is just ticked off that people are blaming him for the downfall of the x-franchise.
i respect his attempt as i respect sommers' attempt at gi joe.
but unfortunatley, ratner has taken the abuse to heart and apparently exhibiting hostility towards the x-men fanbase. otherwise known as comicbook movie enthusiasts.
ratner's execution of x3 was bad but the concept was good.
many movies have had this kinda luck before. why are we as fans, being so brutal towards one man whenever it takes hundreds of people to make a movie?
i can be harsh as well towards certain movie makers because i a prejudice against their style of film making.
their style is not for me. i am sure there is someone out there who actually like elektra. but i did not.
i thought ratner did an okay job at keeping me entertained for 1 hour 40 min but he, in my opinion, butchered the mythology behind the movie.
we are all entitled to our opinions and so is brett ratner.
if he wants to think what he thinks, so be it.
his choice. not mine.
Wadey09 - 9/8/2009, 7:26 PM
This is my 1st post, he seems like a jerk but i goda this movie wasnt great but it wasnt extreemly bad it was beter than origins thats movie is a piece of crap
iwillfindu100 - 9/8/2009, 7:26 PM
Come on guys!!!!! Read the sequel to Watchmen in FanFic!!!!!!

@iwillfindu: Welcome man!!!!
TheCritic17 - 9/8/2009, 7:29 PM
Why is he saying that now just cuz he took a look at the internet just because he realized how much of an ass he is singer isnt great either You gotta give it up for that guy, 'cause he's got nothing else going on in his life yeah hes talking about him self and here's the thing about him he doesnt give them a faithful storyline to the charaters like juggernaut,Beast,etc
Weiner123 - 9/8/2009, 7:30 PM
wadey-the only thing he did was make the x men story go the sinister way and that's good finally cyclops is going to have his shine

weiner123-ur right
flames809 - 9/8/2009, 7:30 PM
Where in ANY X-men comic was Juggernaut a MUTANT? I don't care if he WAS joking. He is STILL a dick. Not to mention the tireless supersonic flight capabilities of Angel that can be in San Fransisco one scene, New York the next, and be back in time to meet all of the X-men that traveled in a JET, yet he didn't once get tired and had to stop.
necrosage2005 - 9/8/2009, 7:31 PM
necrosage2005 - ur also right
flames809 - 9/8/2009, 7:32 PM
Right wadey he should of waited for the age of apocalypse to destroy professor x and take a look at the 2 last episodes of x men evolution with apocalypse and see what i mean look at what happens fancast
Weiner123 - 9/8/2009, 7:34 PM
Brett Ratner is a F**king Douche
retr0g0dfather - 9/8/2009, 7:41 PM
Billy Joel said that if you're a straight A student then you think too much...

come on guys, if you can't enjoy the movie because you've been reading comic books for years and years and you're up before Jesus and the Mexicans every morning readin' comic books, maybe you read comic books too much.

the real fun and imagination comes from YOU, so what if the movie don't follow the books exactly. Watchmen followed the book like white on rice and people still weren't happy with it.
Fartman - 9/8/2009, 7:46 PM
Man O Man!!!!!


Brett , Brett, Brett. Shame on you.....Shame.


You call your self a Director?????? Don't forget WE are the ones who pay to see movies. WE are the ones who give you reason to direct movies. Piss those people off and you'll be out of a job my friend.

Don't Forget!!!!!!! Directors cater to the audience Brett!!


Brett......You've been UNMASKED!!!!
Unmasked - 9/8/2009, 7:53 PM
He is speaking the truth...
Odysseus - 9/8/2009, 8:04 PM
yes he is Odysseus, all you assholes here are just pissed he called you out and that thats what most directors think of us, as a comic book fan, they really shoudn't care what we think, cause most of the stuff we want in a comic book movie is impossible even with today's technology and we get so pissed because it is at who? the director, who's job is to just tell actors how to act in scenes he wants to look a certain way, he doesn't really write the script and cast the actors, he just tells people how he wants it to look according to the script

SirPrize @ you're a complete idiot, he made a name for himself when he did Rush Hour, X3 was not gonna make him big anyway, stop imaging everything would've been perfect if this or that had happened!

i'm glad he doesn't care, because as you can tell by me, we're dicks
lilej2 - 9/8/2009, 8:37 PM
man, I see an apology (a fake ass apology, but an apology still) coming from Ratner soon. Why does he put every single comic book fan in the same group? I know that every single man on the planet has some form of fandom (whether it be gadgets, cars, sports, comics, tittie mags, alcohol, food, traveling, etc. usually it's a mixture of many of those). I still believe that we don't drop our toys, we just change them for fancier and more expensive stuff.

Anyway I do agree with Rorscharch, for me X1 was just mildly passable I liked X2 a whole lot but X3.... well let's just say that everyone that saw that movie told me how much they had disliked that movie, people who had no idea about the characters were telling me that why in hell did they have angel in the movie, and that the deaths were pointless and extremely cheesy.

I mean as an artist, one of the most important aspects is to care about the piece of art you are creating, I agree that an artist takes his vision and uses it to create a work of art and shouldn't care what people think of it, however if the artist doesn't care and is just doing it for a quick buck... well he can blame geeks and goblins but everyone knows he is the one to blame.

From now on I will seriously try to steer away from Ratner's movies.
NoobMike - 9/8/2009, 8:39 PM
I actually liked Ratners X-men than Singers lol
ottoevans - 9/8/2009, 8:41 PM
HOLLYWOODS ANSWER TO REVIVE X-MEN-GIVE THEM A TWIGHLIGHT WANNABEE MOVIE, X-MEN FIRST CLASS!
GUNSMITH - 9/8/2009, 8:58 PM
The Rat just doesn't accept that he not only made a bad comic movie that was a jumble of bullshit, but that he just made a genuinely bad movie and was called on it because this particular type of film has a preexisting core audience. So yeah, we were pissed.

Secondly, it’s not as if this was a fluke; the guy has always made ham-fisted shit films and I didn't like him as a director before he made X3 and like him even less for having made X3 so poorly. Boo freaking hoo, dude. A hack is a hack is a hack. Go back to film school, learn how to get some depth out of your performances and editing, learn when to tell the screen writer, honestly , that he's handed you a festering turd and tell him to do a rewrite, and come back in ten years when you are worthy of the salary they pay you.

Another thing: just because Prof X has died five times does not mean all of those stories were good or necessary, and just half assedly throwing that into a film doesn’t make it a good plot device either. In a comic’s decades long story arch there are good moments, bad moments, truly epic moments, and horrible moments because the storytelling is never consistent. Bad source material does not excuse a bad film. The Phoenix Saga was not, however a bad piece of material, it is considered one of the quintessential X-men stories and was basically give a terrible film treatment that drew NOTHING from that good aspects of that source material. He filmed with a lame script and gave flat direction to a cast with only a few stand-out performers that could give him more than passable readings without a proper director. You made a turd, man; live with it.

Fanboys aren’t the reason the film was bad we are the reason it made so much money, and THAT IS OUR FAULT. It is a mistake we should never repeat again, and God willing we won’t. Sadly comics are a fetish property and the fans always want to see their fetish acted out and are drawn like a moth to a bug zapper into the theater because we want to see Wolverine tear somebody's head off. 'Nuff said.
nerosday - 9/8/2009, 9:16 PM
Wow, he's as good as his movies!

This guy's a joke he shouldnt even have the rights to direct, all he does is destroy everything he touches!

Jackass
Deadpool813 - 9/8/2009, 9:21 PM
@Odysseus, I see they try to follow stuffy published book novels down to the very last character and can't follow and respect comic book characters? That's a load of Krap!

Ratface does not respect his audience and it showed with X3. At least Singer tried to at least be faithful to the core storyline and not throw out Professor X or Rogue or Jean Grey from the X-men, or change them drastically somehow!

Ratner does not respect his core audience and needs to be blacklisted by loyal fans for saying Krap like this! It's OFFENSIVE and ARROGANT!
DDD - 9/8/2009, 9:23 PM
I liked X3... i thought it was good. I mean, they killed off cyclops, how much better can u get. The only slight problem I might have had wit it was the killing off of so many mutants in the movie, but i hated when the comics did that too.

I would hate to see a "First Class" movie. too many damn mutants in the universe to go back and focus on the same group as kids. bring on hellion, surge, rockslide, anole, and the rest of the new x-men gang.

Lets see a New X-men vs. Hellions movie, with the ending teaming up the 2 teams/gangs for a x-men 5
telavizion - 9/8/2009, 9:27 PM
No, no DDD. I'm offensive and arrogant; Bret Ratner is just a spoiled ignorant ego driven dumbass hack who got very [frick]ing lucky in life, baby.
nerosday - 9/8/2009, 9:28 PM
@Flames, I was talking about the specific older fans on here not younger people like you still going to school! If you're still gong to school and trying to make something of yourself then you ARE very successful!

But for Ratfink to say that we're all a bunch of comic geek losers and it doesn't matter what we fans, his core audience, think and want is just pathetic!
DDD - 9/8/2009, 9:34 PM
LMAO, @Nerosday!
DDD - 9/8/2009, 9:35 PM
X-Men also suffers from the same problem as the Superman franchise in a way. They have played it to the same thematic tune for too long, racism, and bigotry, intolerance are all great sounding boards for larger real world issues, but the fact remains that they played the same card in three movies with the same major villain. Who is tired of seeing an entire race like the mutants played as nothing more than victims? Magneto is just as racist as those who persecute his people, and it makes things dull when we are bashed over the head with that fact over and over. X3 would have been a much better movie if they just would have explored some different themes and given us a new antagonist. Not that Ian isn't a great Magneto, he is, but the franchise was suffering from a Lex Luthorian Syndrome. It was afraid to explore its universe further.
nerosday - 9/8/2009, 9:35 PM
Absolutely well said! @Nerosday
DDD - 9/8/2009, 9:37 PM
Too bad he doesn't have the talent to back up his big fat mouth. Him and singer can 69 themselves right over a cliff.

And if he's reading this, I downloaded your shitty movie for free and I STILL want my money back, you sweaty taint.
gtrman - 9/8/2009, 9:39 PM
And speaking as a fan; there is no hard and fast rule that says all epic moments and good stories must be directly from the source material, hell we know those moments. We love them, but they already exist for us and are thusly compared to the original material rightly or wrongly. Case in point: the Dark Knight was an Epic Batman story and we loved it not because it was a pure rehashing of the source material, it was epic because there was just enough of the material there to be nostalgic and yet it was curved enough to keep us guessing. And it was still an Epic nearly entirely new Batman story. It was a great example of what can go right with a comic flick. The same goes for Iron Man and a precious handful of others. Some of the least fun comic flicks to me are those that, like Sin City though I liked it very much, just put what was on the page on the screen. There is a balance there that is hard to grasp. These are comic stories; true, but don’t be afraid to give us some original material; especially in a sequel. You are presenting comics in a new medium that can deliver in different ways that the stationary images and omniscient writing perspective of the comics can give us. We need it to keep things fresh yet always be respectful of the fans and were the characters are coming from.

We will always want to see our favorite characters brought to life on the big screen. We just ask that you also try to make a good movie in the process. If you make it we will come, but if you make it good we will come and our friends, and families, and you will make much more money for your studio, in the end everyone is happier.
nerosday - 9/8/2009, 9:50 PM
To BR and everyone that agrees with him or thinks like he does, the arguement being made here is essentially this: that anyone who didn't like his terrible movie is a loser with nothing going on in their lives.

I don't have to go into detail, but that is ridiculous. Its a lot worse than a sweeping generalization which are almost always wrong. He's putting down and passing judgment on the group of people who popularized this genre in the first place. Oh sure Blade and X Men had mass appeal but the comics they were based on were purchased and loved by fans who for generations kept comic book companies alive and thus the comics themselves. If they aren't trying to make it appeal to us then they should be.

I don't know one person that actually liked X men 3. And I also don't know one person that is as he described with nothing going on in their lives and such. There are a few that have a nerdy streak when it comes to comics, but that doesn't make them a total loser.
There are some that want the movies to mirror the comics more in that the times when they don't it's usually to the film's detriment. Does that make them a loser? Or mean they have no life? Nope. That's just a certain unpopular point of view. It says nothing about the intellect, character, or lifestyle of the person in question.

This is an asinine series of statements that hold no water what so ever, in which one can easily hear the insolent tone of a snotty Hollywood elitist and a spoiled kid having a temper tantrum.

DarthMulder - 9/8/2009, 9:52 PM
I rather have Ratner direct and muck up a xmen film than have that no talented hack Uwe Boll touch something like it and just rape the movie. It's people like Boll who push me to make movies and now I know mine are far better than his ever will be. But for Ratner he couldn't do a good movie. I try to think in the past of what he has done that is good and the only movie I can tolerate is Rush Hour 2. If this guy is still mad about his crappy movie than he should hang himself.
luecypher - 9/8/2009, 9:58 PM
Amen Mulder
nerosday - 9/8/2009, 10:03 PM
Rat-turd is just an asshole that was upset that the core audience that MADE him and his "career" possible, overall, hated his moronic movie. I'd have understood his coment if at the very least the critics liked X3, but not even they liked it if I'm not mistaken. What he said reminds me of the fox with its sour grapes. He tried to make a good movie, he really, really did, honest... Then he found out that people hated it, and he lashed out at those that made it possible. If that isn't a douche move, then I don't know what is. What I DO know is that I will avoid seeing any more of his movies (as if I'd even seen that many to begin with) for fear that he will lash out at more moviegoers when he makes another bad movie.



Ratturd, the NEW Uwe Boll! One was bad enough!!
necrosage2005 - 9/8/2009, 10:19 PM
1 2

Please log in to post comments.

Don't have an account?
Please Register.