The Future of Marvel Movieverse

The Future of Marvel Movieverse

I for one love continuity and well fitting crossovers, and Marvel has hit a movie niche that has never really been explored. My question is how long can this continue and what could the future hold?

Editorial Opinion
By Paulley - Apr 19, 2010 01:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

With the upcoming movies leading to the Avengers, Marvel have created something that has never truly been seen in the movie medium; an interconnecting continuity spanning several franchise. A point must be made that if anyone has the experience and ability to handle an ever expanding world and continuity it is the big companies from comics medium because its something they handle everyday.

Prior to this, Marvel had established a crossover universe in the animated TV world but this was never more than cameo or guest spots. The best example of a truly crossover universe prior to this was the expansive and interconnecting DC Animated Universe. However, they have never gotten enough momentum to bring established characters together on the big screen.

Marvel have gotten ballsy enough to get a hold of these characters and do this themselves, and so far its worked but can it continue to grow and last or will it crumble around them. With the Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk and Thor sole franchise pretty much guaranteed sequels while the combined Avengers getting sequels and spin-offs Nick Fury, Ant-Man etc plus future movies like Runaways, Doctor Strange and Luke Cage all possibly being Marvel produced makes for an expansive Universe.


I guess the biggest question is are the general movie public ready to take in this world and are they going to be able to cope with the reality of this many crossovers. I know us Fans of Marvel can, and will, lap up every second of it and every little nod with excitement at the future possibilities, even people with limited knowledge of the Marvel Universe (from TV shows and popular culture etc) will understand enough to keep track. However, the rest of the public and movie audiences might find this too much and reject it. I saw Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk with to non-Marvel enlightened and for the most part Marvel played it well, most nods needed to be spotted or were subtle enough not to distract/annoy people; the two exceptions to this being Nick Fury and Leader.

I forcibly made my two friends sit through the credits (which they were not amused by) to see the Nick Fury clip which left them a little confused, and me bemused why they didn’t understand that how epic having Nick Fury on screen was. The Leader thing was obviously not as much of a problem with more than a few people not even taking much notice of it.

These reactions worry me a bit, and with the addition of plausi-magical elements in Thor (and in the future Doctor Strange), will it become too much that the general public get confused by it all and lose interest. I hope not and I don’t think we are far enough in to be in a position to tell what the reaction will be but the public have been know to be fickle and I just don’t know if there are enough fanboys to keep the money flowing.

Another more interesting element, is whether Marvel have the strength of will to allow to let the Movieverse expand in its own right. Marvel currently has plans for many movies in this line which will undoubtedly keep them busy for a good decade but what then? What happens when Robert Downey, Jr. and Samuel L Jackson shows their age more than they do already? By this time you would have hoped that Hollywood’s reboot crazing will have passed and Marvel will take the leap to diverge away in a new and continues continuity. It maybe only a pipe dream but Marvel have shown that allowing directors and actor to use the established worlds as more of a rough guide to be modernized and adapted for the big screen works, and lets face it if anyone told you 5 years ago that Captain America, Thor and Iron Man would be standing side-by-side on the big screen in the near future; you would have laughed in there face.

10 years is a long time, franchises could come back under Marvel control, the face of The Avengers could be more fluid than any of us could imagine, actors could leave or die leaving the possibility of legacy characters being introduced and merged in to the Universe. The future of the Marvel Movieverse could be something truly unprecedented, or its existence something we all must savor will the chance is available to us.
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CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/19/2010, 2:22 PM
i think the true test of longevity will be when these actors' contracts start running out.

If the Cap and Thor movies don't do well, then we just won't see sequels, BUT they will have done their part in building toward the Avengers movie, so a sequel to their individual franchise movies may not be a necessity.

but what happens when all these guys' 9 picture deals start running out?? what happens when Chris Hemsworth's 9 pictures are done? or Chris Evans. Or Sam Jackson...well, lets not kid ourselves, Sammy-boy will act in ANY movie, he's probably the one we can count on most, lol.

lol, point is, eventually, these deals will run out, and actors will start dropping out. (lets face it, 9 movies is a hell of a commitment!) it just seems like most franchises suffer when actors or directors decide not to return for a sequel...so thats what worries me the most.
Paulley
Paulley - 4/19/2010, 2:45 PM
Totally agree.. thats when Marvel have to bite the bullet and either carry on regardless using the expanding universe with story lines that incorporate recasting or loss of characters or they take the reboot route which i hope they dont.
topgooner187
topgooner187 - 4/19/2010, 5:14 PM
it can last forever there is unlimited continuity available with the marvel universe FACT!!
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 4/20/2010, 1:59 AM
Hopefully these characters will continue like the Bond films. One actor just passes the torch to another.

Nice job Paulley
KeithM
KeithM - 4/20/2010, 2:15 AM
If recasting becomes necessary and if they remain committed to a consistent continuity, then they'll just do it and not worry about it - as per Rhodey already.

It worked for Bond, it's worked for Jack Ryan. Whoever takes over from a major character might have a hard act to follow and indeed it might fall apart long before we even reach that stage, or much later or never - they might be telling stories based in the same continuity in 50 to 100 years when we're all dead...

They'll definitely need to have recast by then. :)

Whether or not the mainstream audiences will get confused/bored or not is more down to the quality of the stories and how they implement the crossovers. If they set up the groundwork, lay the foundations of the 'world' - educate people in the parameters of the MU in pretty much the same way we were in the comics, then it'll all be down to the quality of the stories.

Regarding the Iron Man after credit scene. I saw it first time with my two brothers - neither of them comic fans. They were quite impatient and were starting to get a little annoyed, but I insisted we wait. My reaction was as you imagine - jumping up and down with glee (I even punched one of my brothers in the shoulder in excitement). They were like, "what's the big deal?"

When I explained what it meant, however, they were blown away by the potential too. The thought of Iron Man, Hulk, Cap and Thor in the same movie excites "them" for the same reasons it excites "us".

"They" are not a different species, with completely different feelings, likes and dislikes - they just don't read comics. Of course people's tastes do vary, but if YOU like something chances are so will lots of others, even if not comic book fans. Not everyone reads novels, or epic poetry, for example, but that doesn't stop us liking those stories when retold in a medium we do enjoy - e.g. film.

Don't underestimate the power of exciting, grand stories filled with larger than life heroes. They're universal and timeless.

As long as they're good.
Paulley
Paulley - 4/20/2010, 3:27 AM
lol yea i would like to limit the number of unexplained actor/character appearance changes...

Next thing you know Fury will pull a Felix Lighter and change colour lol
StuckInPanels
StuckInPanels - 4/20/2010, 6:31 AM
Should we # this movieverse like with the others in the multiverse
Paulley
Paulley - 4/20/2010, 6:56 AM
Yes, it was a british innovation to log these universes and would love to see it continue... if my Captain Britain movie came to fruition then that would be the perfect place to do it ;)

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BritishAvengers/news/?a=16089
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/20/2010, 8:46 AM
@ paulley

i would love a Captain Britain movie!! Captain Britain: MI13 was a great series that was cancelled before its time. just goes to show that quality doesn't always mean a book will sell
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