Movie Magic Case Study #4: Matthew Vaughn vs. Jon Favreau

Movie Magic Case Study #4: Matthew Vaughn vs. Jon Favreau

Two director greats! Read more to learn who the studios originally wanted to direct their Marvel comic book adaptions. Vote for who's movie magic makes you go all tingly inside!

Editorial Opinion
By MarkJulian - Jul 05, 2011 12:07 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men

Over the last few years, Marvel comic book characters have done very well at the box office. Currently, there are franchise tent-poles staked around Spider-Man, Thor, Captain America, Fantastic Four [a reboot is coming soon, trust me], The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, and X-Men. While all of these movies have enjoyed box office success, not all have been well received by critics. The exception comes in the form of Iron Man and X-Men:First Class, which were successful at the box office and universally praised by the majority of film critics. However, each film has a different pace, dialogue and tone due to their respective directors, Jon Favreau and Matthew Vaughn. Let's analyze their approaches to their films and decide who has the better formula for producing a great comic book movie.




First, we'll start with Favreau, the director who helmed the 2008 movie that gave birth to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Not widely known is the fact that Iron Man was almost released 18 years earlier in 1990 by Universal Studios. Down the years, the film rights changed hands to Fox, and had such actors as Nicholas Cage and Tom Cruise attached to star as Marvel's charismatic playboy. In 1999, Quentin Tarantino was approached to write and direct the film but a deal was never struck and the film rights were sold to New Line Cinema, where a ludicrous story was written for Tony Stark to battle against his father, who becomes War Machine. New Line first approached Joss Whedon and then Nick Cassavetes to direct but once again a deal couldn't be struck [*phew] and the film rights reverted back to Marvel.



In 2006, Marvel Studios selected Favreau relatively quickly to take control of their lead off franchise but the same couldn't be said regarding the selection of their leading man. Initially, everyone from George Clooney, Guy Pearce, and Johnny Depp to Jude Law, Jim Caviezel, and Clive Owen were rumored to be up for the role. Tom Cruise re-emerged as a strong front runner before Marvel made a somewhat surprise move and went with Robert Downey Jr. And the rest, as they say, is history.



Right away, Favreau had a strong vision for the film and decided that the movie would have a "spy-like" tone and cited his inspiration as stemming from James Bond, Howard Hughes and the film Batman Begins [story-telling]. Favreau stated that he wanted to make Iron Man a story of an adult man literally reinventing himself, and realizing the world is far more complex than he believes. Also, what really tells a lot about Fabreau's style was that a precise script was never written. There was an extraordinary amount improvisation in dialogue scenes, because the script was not completed when filming began (the filmmakers focused on the story making sense and planning the action). Favreau acknowledged that improvisation would make the film feel more natural. Some scenes were shot with two cameras to capture lines said on the spot. Multiple takes were done, as Downey wanted to try something new each time.

It was Downey's idea to have Stark hold a news conference on the floor, and he created the speech Stark makes when demonstrating the Jericho weapon. Favreau also changed the Vietnam War origin of the character to Afghanistan, as he did not want to do a period piece. Favreau even consulted with Marvel writers Mark Millar and Brian Michael Bendis on the tone of the film and selection of the villain. Collectively, they decided that Iron Man's arch-nemesis, the Mandarin wouldn't work because he was simply too unrealistic. Initially, the Crimson Dynamo was intended to be the villain of the first film but a switch was made to Obidiah Stane after Jeff Bridges was signed. Fun Fact: Favreau let Bendis write the closing-credits sequence that introduces Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury.

Where Iron Man was the first on-screen portrayal of the character and was the first film venture by a fledgling studio, X-Men:First Class is a totally different animal. With three X-Men films and a stand-alone Wolverine tale coming before, First Class already had a built-in audience and expectations. Development for First Class actually began all the way back in 2006 [around the same time as Iron Man, ironically]. Fox originally sought Brian Singer to oversee the film but he dropped out, due to his commitment on Jack the Giant Killer {which will star Nicholas Hoult, Beast from First Class]. Singer remained as a producer and Matthew Vaughn was hired as director.



Immediately, Vaughn came in and imposed his will on the project, bringing in Jane Goldman for script re-writes. Coming off critical success on Kick-Ass, Vaughn was something of a popular director among comic book fans. Vaughn wanted to model X-Men: First Class after the 2009 Star Trek film, taking the franchise in a new direction with a fresh, young cast. Fun Fact: An action scene that was to have been set in a dream sequence with revolving rooms was scrapped after the release of Inception. The 1960s setting of X-Men: First Class was technologically inspired by the James Bond films of that era, which was used to enhance the international feel of the characters. The X-Men costumes looked much more as they did in the original comics compared with the first three films. Speaking on the film, Vaughn said,

"Unfinished business, that's what inspired me. I was totally excited about doing X3 [Vaughn came very, very close to directing X-Men: The Last Stand] and basically co-wrote the script with [Simon] Kinberg and Zak Penn. We did that in six days together, and then storyboarded the whole movie ... and then, like an idiot, thought that I didn't have enough time to make the film I wanted, so I had to leave. I sort of regretted that ever since, and when Fox
rang me up and said, 'Do you want a chance to reboot X-Men and put your stamp all over it?' When they told me that, I thought they were joking at first, and then they told me it would happen in the '60s against the Cuban missile crisis as the backdrop, I thought, 'God, this sounds cool. Why not? Let's do it.'" "My main goal was to make as good a film that could stand on its own two feet regardless of all the other films. However, I thought anything that worked in all the other movies, I could have some fun with nodding towards, then I would. But my main rule was, You know what, were trying to reboot and start a whole new X-Men franchise and therefore, making a film work on its own two feet was far more important than trying to be referential to the prior movies."


Amber Heard was originally the front-runner to play Mystique and Taylor Lautner [Twilight] was a strong candidate to play Beast. Kick-Ass' Aaron Johnson was Vaughn first choice to play Havok and actress Alice Eve was cast in the role of Emma Frost before dropping out. In the end, the cast Vaughn assembled proved to be the right combination as the dynamic and chemistry was very strong between Fassbender [Magneto] and McAvoy [Xavier], as well as Jennifer Lawrence [Mystique] and Hoult [Beast].



The approach of these two director's are world's apart:

  • Favreau has displayed a pseudo-reverence for the source material of his film, whereas Vaughn angered many fans before the films release my making statements that "he doesn't give a [frick] about the source material and that his main goal is simply to make a good film." At the time, this caused a lot of outrage but in the end, the majority of viewers agreed that First Class was indeed a good film.
  • Another key difference is the pacing of the films. Iron Man is a sequential film, which switches between the present and flashbacks in order to create depth to the Tony Stark character. From the opening credits, First Class proceeds at a break-kneck progression, rapidly moving the audience toward the Cuban Missile Crisis showdown.
  • Another difference lies within the "directness" of each film. In the first half of Iron Man, there really is little indication that this is a comic book movie. The film just meanders along at a brisk clip with sardonic comedy and self-indulgent military fantasy. It isn't until the movie takes us before the terrorist Ten-Rings that we start to get a glimpse of the fantastical; however, even then the sardonic undertones are not completely dropped. With First Class, we are introduced to the surreal immediately, with scenes involving young Xavier, Mystique and Magneto. At no point during X-Men do you ever feel that you're not watching a comic book movie, which is why the realistic backdrop of the Cuban Missile Crisis was used as a grounding point.
  • Another factor albeit minor, was the use of easter eggs. Iron Man was rife with fan nods throughout the entire film. Many fans saw the film multiple times just to catch everything. While easter eggs were present in First Class, it wasn't equal to that of Faveau's film. While it can be argued that Iron Man was used to set up a cinematic universe, the world of X-Men is so large that a self-contained X-Men universe could be just as big [or bigger] as anything Marvel can do with the Avengers.
  • Profit wise, Iron Man had a production cost of $140Mil and went on to gross roughly $585Mil, for a profit of $445Mil. First class also has a budget of $140Mil [after tax credits] and has currently grossed $334Mil at the worldwide box office [profit of $194Mil].


Personally, I am a fan of both films and I am especially a fan of Vaughn, who's 2 for 2 with comic book movies. At the same time, I also have to give a lot of respect to Fauvreau. Without Iron Man's success there probably wouldn't be a Marvel Cinematic Universe. For any who would attribute Iron Man 2 faults to Fauvreau, please bare in mind that the looseness and freedom in Iron Man was virtually snatched away from Fauvreau by studio execs that forced movie tie-ins down Fauvreau's throat. With that said, as great as Iron Man was, the short-coming of Iron Man 2 force me to give the edge to Vaughn. I'm sure Fauvreau had a different concept for Iron Man 2 but I felt his frustration at the lack of control really effected his ability to weave a cohesive story. It makes you wonder if Iron Man was a fluke success, carried by the novelty of Robert Downey Jr.

What do you think about these 2 directors. Let your opinion be heard and vote for your favorite director!



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WellDrawn
WellDrawn - 7/5/2011, 12:20 AM
Favreau's strength is obviously humor and he's done an execptional job breathing life into the Iron Man legend

It's hard to blame him entirely for all the flaws in Iron Man 2. Much like Sam Raimi with Spiderman 3, he was forced to shoe-horn in major story elements which really didn't add anything to the core story, resulting in plot structures that felt very unfocused and unbalanced.

And you've gotta admit, both Iron Man flicks had completely weak sauce endings.

At least Vaughn knows how to stage a third act like a boss...
preacher
preacher - 7/5/2011, 12:24 AM
@Intruder-LMAO! Funny shit man!

Now, my comments to the article: Favreau all the way! I, too, was disappointed with the end result of Iron Man II (my biggest disappointment was the ending battle with Whiplash) but, I was keeping up to date on the progress of the film as it was being made and yes, Favreau's earlier freedom was completely taken away from him which is why he refused to have anything more to do with the Iron Man franchise. Can't blame the guy. Subsequent viewings of the film have lessened my ire with it.

Vaughn's style is a different animal altogether. I did enjoy X-Men: FC but just didn't feel the same towards it as I did the first Iron Man. X-Men just, to me anyways, felt like another attempt to try to cash in on the X-Men name, without any true love for the character's being evident. It was an enjoyable film, yes, but I left Iron Man feeling much the way I felt about Batman Begins: completely elated! Finally, directors who GET IT! Vaughn, as the article stated, could of cared less about the source material. To me, that's a slap in the face. The source material is the REASON this film is even getting made! How can you ignonre it? To me then, Vaughn just didn't "get it". Directors who think they know more than the fans irk's the hell out of me.
breakUbatman
breakUbatman - 7/5/2011, 12:28 AM
Nah I've enjoyed Vaughns movies as well as Favreaus, Layer Cake was awesome and it's the only movie he has made that's similar to Guy Ritchie

eatmyhit
eatmyhit - 7/5/2011, 4:19 AM
Comparing Vaughn to Guy Richie is one of the most idiotic statements i have ever heard
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 7/5/2011, 5:06 AM
I'm with Tea, loved Iron Man 1 but that's it from Fav. Enjoyed some of his other movies but not to the extent that I did Vaughn's. Iron Man 2 is not better than Kick-Ass, in fact it's not even on the same plane of existence imo.
Shaman
Shaman - 7/5/2011, 6:30 AM
To me, Favs is where the magic's at. Ironman had the potential to do exactly what Green Lantern did(oddly enough where GL had the potential to be the next SW) yet it turned out a hell of a lot better than anyone could imagine. Hell, IMHO it kicked Batman Begin's ass and i prefered it over TDK to begin with. Ironman 2 was a valiant effort from his part but everyone can tell he still tried to make a great film with whatever the studio left him to work with.

The first Ironman was entirely made out of a rough draft and a shitload of improv from Fav and RDJ alone. All Fav had to work with was freedom, which was taken away from him for the sequel. IM2's issue had nothing even remotely similar to do with Raimi's SM3. Fav never dropped the ball on purpose because he hated the studio's decision. He tried his damnedest to make do. But even he knew from the start that it would never be what the first one was. And that showed even in his interviews prior to the film's release.

Anybody thinking that Raimi's not to blame for not making Venom what he could've been yet putting aside all his efforts to ridicule the franchise like making Sandman Uncle Ben's killer and planning a Vulturess and a MechWarrior Vulture for the fourth film, are out of their [frick]ing minds. All Sony did was tell Raimi to put in Venom. The rest is solely Raimi's doing. The big baby didn't want Venom and purposely fumbled to get out of his contract. It's the ONLY logical explanation for the brainfart he PLANNED for the fourth film. And in his interview that followed him getting canned, he was delighted. He practically washed his hands with it.

Vaughn's brilliant at what he chooses to do. I just don't prefer what he brings, over more visualy focused guys like Fav, Snyder and McTeigue. It's probably why i prefered what he did with Stardust over Kick Ass. But i have yet to see FC so he might still surprise me. Unfortunately, i prefer Cowboys & Aliens' trailers over it, something i never thought i'd ever say since i've always thought the concept was retarded. Fav makes retarded look damn good ;)
CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 7/5/2011, 7:44 AM
@Graphic City, Not sure why but every time I go on your articles through my phone all your pictures come out extremely distorted.
thesymbiote
thesymbiote - 7/5/2011, 7:55 AM
I just love Matthew Vaughn. I like his attitude to making films, its pretty no-nonsense and he doesn't care if he's offended anyone, as long as it gets the movie good.

He's brutally honest, something I find refreshing from all the other directors.
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 7/5/2011, 9:25 AM
@Teabag
Just check out your idea of Favreau films, and I have to say they are wrong.
Elf - its a family Christmas comedy; but unlike all the others, it gives off a good plot about knowing where you come from and holiday rejuvination when all joy is lost.
Zathura - Similar to Jumanji, critics praise it, but it didn't do well in box office due to Goblet of Fire. On a side note, both movies (Zathura and Goblet of Fire)have the stars of Twilight in there; but they either got frozen to near death(Stewart), killed by an evil wizard (Pattison), or just sucked by a black hole (Stewart).
Iron Man 2 - Only bad thing about it was the short fight with Whiplash and the ending; everything else was great.

And as for Vaugn, yes he makes good movies but I have to disagree with you on writing:
Kick Ass - Its a Mark [frick]ing Miller story; anybody can write better than that guy. Hell, I can even say that Mark Miller's writing style is just like Stephinie Myer's; except Miller have the credibility of being a comic book writer than some tween book novelist (though I ignore that credibility since they are both writers after all).
Stardust - The screeplay follow closely to the book, so that is not much work for him.
Layer Cake - He did not wrote anything for that, the author did.
X-Men First Class - Did write it, only thing I can argue there about.

And stating that Vaughn influenched comic is not right either. All he did was direct a Mark Miller story and made it look better for the audience to enjoy, and he just made an X-Men movie that is good by not actually attempting to follow the source materials like his other movies since he stated himself that its a "reboot".
Favreau made a movie about a Marvel character not well known to the general public (unlike X-Men) and single handedly made him a very popular character. Sure Vaugn did that with First Class, than again alot of people are getting tired of seeing random mutants in X-Men. And due to Favreau directing Iron Man and making it a success, Marvel actually decide to set forth an Avenger movie which is connected to a series of other super hero movies; in other words, Favreau started the shared movie universe. That is something nobody in a lifetime have seen in movies dealing with comics.

So yeah, I think that Jon Favreau is better than Matthew Vaugn.
Luis75
Luis75 - 7/5/2011, 10:12 AM
What huge Boxoffice hit has Vaughn made? Nothing!!
Luis75
Luis75 - 7/5/2011, 10:39 AM
Ironman is way better than that overrated crap called X-men: First class
Luis75
Luis75 - 7/5/2011, 11:10 AM
@magic8 only a complete douche would care about the comment I made!!
Shaman
Shaman - 7/5/2011, 11:49 AM
Vaughn should assassinate Shane Black and take his job.
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 7/5/2011, 12:08 PM
Matthew Vaughn is an up and coming director and I gotta say that I think he could become a huge star because his directing ability is phenomenal. Jon Favreau is a good director as well but he has been around for a while so he has had some misses when it comes to movies. Even tho I think Elf is a Christmas classic I watch it every year and then there is Iron Man which is a fantastic film.
chuckg313
chuckg313 - 7/5/2011, 1:11 PM
not a fan of favs.... Robert Downy Jr deserves a ton of credit for iron man a success he was great as tony in iron man one
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 7/5/2011, 1:12 PM
@Tea
Based on facts, that is why. Purely based on facts.

Plus the Mark Miller comment was obviously me joking; me calling his writing similar to Myers is meant for a joke. Seriously, what kind of person reads Twilight and like it?

As for influence, that is practically one story that wasn't finish by a writer. Favreau manage to give an interesting take on the Tony Stark character. Almost alot of things I have seen that deals with Iron Man was based off of RDJ's portrayal of the character. So again, without Favreau, Iron Man will still be a dull character like he was in the comics.

Also, the way you wrote your post makes it seems like it is as if Vaugn did better as a director compare to Favreau like it was some sort of fact. That just makes me cringe from hearing how people would take one opinion to make it seem like the definate truth.

You are right about personal tastes and all that, but that doesn't excuse your statements about which director is better.
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 7/5/2011, 10:41 PM
@teabag
How to state it without me butthurting over your opinions?
Simple; just read your first post:
"Considering Favs body of work i always thought Iron Man was a fluke for him...where as Vaughn has had a great collection of movies under his belt

Fav
Cowboys & Aliens = Potential to be awesome


Iron Man 2 = Good movie but lost the charm and magic (sure you could say the studio took control...but that just makes him a pussy)


Iron Man = Excellent


Zathura: A Space Adventure = Stinker


Elf = I dont understand how people like this movie...Crap

The guy cant write for shit either...hence why The iron man movies were good since he didnt touch the screenplays


Vaughn

X-Men: First Class = Great Movie

Kick-Ass = Excellent

Stardust = Great movie

Layer Cake = Great Movie

He also wrote parts of each of these movies..hell the screen play for kick ass was finnished before the comic and Millar even said he took i deas from the movie to finnish the book

So Vaughn influanced the comic
Plus he's no pussy







Shane Black is gonna kick Favs ass

Vaughn all the way

You can try and knock him down on box office takings but the man still stands at making great movies"

Yeah, all you did was badmouth Favs as if all his movies are crap and that majority of Vaughn's films will always be the best. I think that kind of proves why I am butthurt about your comment (ignoring the fact that I have the runs early on and was stuck in the bathroom for 4 hours).

Also, I think I wouldn't be such a emotional puss if didn't be a irritating prick in the first place. Though I remember back where there was this whole Hall of Shame thing going on, where most users will have this icon reflecting what kind of user they are; and I remember that your icon is a troll. So obviously most of your comments will piss people off; meaning most of what you say is as shit as [inser random movie that is utter crap] (hmm, guess me being butthurt isn't so bad since that is only temporary :D).

Oh, and I didn't complain about Intruder because he didn't state any defining reason why all his films are bad. All he said was a specific movie being better than the other, and those are clearly opinions; as well as the main point of the discussion. But yeah, that is pretty much me nitpicking; but isn't that the [frick]ing point of the site?

Anyway, I held no offence to your comment; just stupid of me arguing with a . . . wow I could have been finishing up a drawing on the computer instead of making fruitless arguements when obviously both Favreau and Vaugn films are nothing compare to Nolan.
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 7/6/2011, 7:57 AM
@teabag Jesus! LOL. Some colorful euphemisms right there
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 7/6/2011, 8:33 AM
@teabag
Actually, it more like dick riding; that is alot more fun than sucking dicks.

And believe me, I heard alot of people in the past who got piss over phrases that Matthew Vaugn is a hack. So therefore it is okay for me to express my feelings.

But seriously, I am afraid your mouth is starting to stink up with all that shit you are spitting out. LMAO.
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 7/6/2011, 8:44 AM
@teabag

No problem; cocks are great part to a daily breakfast! :D
BigK1337
BigK1337 - 7/6/2011, 8:49 AM
@teabag
In lunchtime is the best time to have boobs.
As for dinner . . . pretty obvious.
cotton
cotton - 7/6/2011, 11:07 AM
@teabag....Please, Please, Please...Dont ever leave this site :)
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 8/7/2011, 6:39 PM
Trudy, Kick-Ass got tons of great reviews too.

Shaman, Cowboys and Aliens was mostly retarded, kinda fun though. Check it and First Class out and be the judge.

I think this is an even director match up but Favs has made a few crappy movies, Zathura, Cowboys and Aliens (mine and critical opinion) where Vaughn has made only critical gems, all of his movies stand no lower than 77% on old faithful, rottentomatoes. I like Vaughn's energy, wit and style but Favs can still produce a good movie if the script is good, which is something Vaughn doesn't have to worry about as he writes his own.
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