Wait....John Carter Needs To Make How Much To Justify A Sequel!?!

Wait....John Carter Needs To Make How Much To Justify A Sequel!?!

John Carter, formerly known as John Carter of Mars needs to earn a staggering figure in order to guarantee a sequel according to certain reports. Hit the jump to find out exactly how much.

By MarkJulian - Oct 11, 2011 09:10 PM EST
Filed Under: John Carter of Mars
Source: NY Magazine


                                         Damn...I need how much?


According to New York Magazine, John Carter of Mars needs to earn a whopping $700 Million at the worldwide box office in order to justify a sequel. That would mean that the film needs a higher box-office total than the first Iron Man movie and finish roughly near the first Transformers movie.

Yeah, good luck with that.

I will admit that the trailer was intriguing and the movie is based on a series of books that have a worldwide following however, as of this moment, general populace interest is pretty low for this flick and there's isn't a big name actor in the lead role. Still, just like the fore-mentioned Iron Man, this movie could come out of nowhere and surprise people and make Taylor Kitsch a bona fide star.

John Carter's reported $250 Million budget doesn't help matters either.



And to refresh your memory, here's the first teaser trailer for the film. Expect promotions to pickup in the coming months.




John Carter probably holds the record for having the longest period of "development hell" for any movie, at 79 years. The film entered development hell when preproduction first started for it in 1931, when Robert Clampett (director of 'Looney Tunes') approached Edgar Rice Burroughs, the author of 'John Carter', to make an animated feature out of the first book in the series (which is what this film is also an adaptation of). Had plans gone through, 'John Carter' would have become the first animated feature the world had seen, beating Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The film finally left development hell in 2010 when filming officially started on Andrew Stanton;s film.


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Mechagino
Mechagino - 10/11/2011, 9:34 PM
Ahem.

GOD DAMN!
Anthrax
Anthrax - 10/11/2011, 9:35 PM
yeah.. so that means no sequel disney probably knows its not as good as they expected so they set so high so it will never reach 700 million so they wont spend no more money on the sequel dick move disney dick move.
Talontd
Talontd - 10/11/2011, 9:36 PM
Why $700Mil??? Why not double the budget like always?
GreendaleHumanBeing
GreendaleHumanBeing - 10/11/2011, 9:38 PM
I hope this does well. Huge Taylor Kitsch aka Tim Riggins fan. Texas Forever
RyanLantern77
RyanLantern77 - 10/11/2011, 9:41 PM
yikes.... sounds doomed to fail
silverhawk
silverhawk - 10/11/2011, 9:45 PM
so no sequel then...
THRILLHO
THRILLHO - 10/11/2011, 9:46 PM
NIRSINGHA
NIRSINGHA - 10/11/2011, 9:52 PM
It looks like Dune and you know what happened to anymore Dune movies??????????????????? 700 Disney should put money into the AVENGERS!!! AND BUY THOR A HELMET!!!!!!!!
beetheb
beetheb - 10/11/2011, 9:53 PM
Pfft, it won't even make back its money, let alone friggin triple it. As a matter of fact it'll most likely bomb hard.

Kinda like telling a kid with a limp he'll have a spot in the 2012 olympics if he can just beat Usain Bolt in the 100m.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 10/11/2011, 9:55 PM
holy...! O______O
well,more Pirates of the Caribbean sequels then
LucasMend
LucasMend - 10/11/2011, 10:00 PM
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Good luck with that disney, the movie looks interesting, but I doubt it can have the box office higher than the first Iron Man or even get close to the first transformers movie.
95
95 - 10/11/2011, 10:03 PM
Disney, why ya gotta do Andrew Stanton like that? *smh*
MaddMonkk
MaddMonkk - 10/11/2011, 10:03 PM
Damn. I won't happen. There aren't enough people who recognize this character. So probably no Shadow, hantom, Tarzan, Doc Savage, or Great Lake Avengers.
MaddMonkk
MaddMonkk - 10/11/2011, 10:04 PM
P, you know where it goes.
PoPcornDude
PoPcornDude - 10/11/2011, 10:04 PM
I dont' know anything about this book and just judging by the trailer, it looks like a knock-off of the other flop called: Aliens & Cowboys...
maybe with a better publicity they might make me want to go and see this movie.
tazmaniak
tazmaniak - 10/11/2011, 10:35 PM
Here's the problem with John Carter of Mars, and it's not even it's fault.It's one of the most notable science fiction works ever created.

Most sci-fi/fantasy writers/filmmakers have been influenced by these novels and generally credit it as a source of inspiration.

That's all well in good, but here's the problem.Because the story was written about 100 years ago and has taken this long to be made into a movie, we have dozens of novels, comics, video games, TV shows and movies that have already been made that were directly or indirectly influenced by John Carter.So, even though we know these concepts existed first in John Carter, it's going to feel like a retread when the films comes out, simply because we've seen these elements in so many other things.

Especially for the majority of film goers who don't even bother to do a little research to see these things originated with John Carter.They're just going to call it a ripoff.And that's going to hurt the movie.

Take a look at Star Wars, Dune, Avatar and Adam Strange.Those projects are greatly influenced by John Carter.

George Lucas was such a fan that he even borrowed concepts like the word Sith, John Carter's Banths became Banthas, Leia's bikini is modeled after Dejah Thoris' and Jabba's Desert Skiffs are based on John Carter's Flying Platforms.Hell, that scene in Attack of the Clones where Anakin and Padme are about to be executed and have to fight those beasts is directly inspired by a battle in John Carter.

The entire premise of Avatar is very similar to John Carter.John Carter is an Earthling who arrives on an alien planet populated by very tall natives, falls in love with a princess, becomes embroiled in their war and ends up living on the new world.

Take DC's Adam Strange.The story is almost exactly like John Carter.John Carter is transported to an alien world by a mysterious beam of energy and falls in love with a native.Throughout his adventures he is periodically transported back and forth between the worlds.Same story.

That's a problem.No matter how good the film is, and even though all these concepts originated with John Carter, it's going to lessen people's enjoyment of the film because they've seen it all before.Especially because Avatar is very similar, very popular and is still fresh in people's minds.

But, we'll see.
MARV3L
MARV3L - 10/11/2011, 10:44 PM
Thanks for the info tazmaniak, just delved a little deeper for my own personal interest and all the old imagery looks amazing - especially the Cover art by Frank E. Schoonover from A Princess of Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs, McClurg, 1917 (shown on wikipedia).

I feel conflicted about this now, I want it to do really well if the movie is good otherwise I say lets promote the awesomeness of this story in other media forms abit more before REBOOT!
Bluestreak
Bluestreak - 10/11/2011, 10:47 PM
The magazine is the New Yorker you dolt. i just finished reading the article and it made me interested in seeing the movie. the second trailer needs to be better but apparently it tested really well. Good luck to them.
santoanderson
santoanderson - 10/11/2011, 10:50 PM
Does that include DVD sales, merchandise and television licensing rights, or just box office?
pro346
pro346 - 10/11/2011, 11:40 PM
If some crap like Harry Potter can make a billion I don't see why this can't lets hope so anyway!
luffycapri
luffycapri - 10/11/2011, 11:47 PM
good luck
alucard365
alucard365 - 10/12/2011, 12:09 AM
LMFAO ! ! ! ! !
TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 10/12/2011, 12:45 AM
It would be cool if it does that well, but yea total dick move on Disney's part. C'mon Hollywood, don't be such a [frick] face
alekesam
alekesam - 10/12/2011, 1:55 AM
I actually think it can hit it's target (or get close enough to it where they'll say okay to a sequel anyways) and here's why.

It's being released in March, well aways from Avengers, Prometheus, and other potential money makers next year. It'll be free to pull in as much cash as possible. Also, while the average person may look at it and say,"Been there, done that" (especially with Prince of Persia and Conan fresh in the minds), I still think if Disney can make a trailer enticing enough to get people in on the hook of the story, people will give it a go. Especially if it lives up to the marketing. Speaking of which, you know Disney will market the hell out of this, not to mention it's not a R, so people can take their kids to go see it.

I dunno. I look at Pirates, and that was based off of a story-less ride at Disneyland and that did really well (a billion's worth). I really think this could be a sleeper and run up the charts.
marvelmark
marvelmark - 10/12/2011, 3:07 AM
i'm not entirely sure, but i'm guessing that he is on the planet mars. and if so, what rae those two plantes he sees in the sky, mars has 2 moons, but they wouldn't look as large as that from anywhere on the surface. so.......
Homerisfat
Homerisfat - 10/12/2011, 3:14 AM
I think directors like George Lucas and James Cameron have a duty to promote this film. The reason why they are so successful is because of John Carter.
AntoBlueberry
AntoBlueberry - 10/12/2011, 3:59 AM
Really, those supposed journalists should stop writing this kind of bullshit about movie financing, because some people believe this crap. Maybe if we lived in 1920, that kind of calculation could have been close to the truth. But now when a great deal of a studio income comes from TV sales worldwide, VOD, Blu-Ray and merchandising, theater income is just a minimum percentage. Even marketing expenses now are being paid mostly with cross-promotion. Moreover the budget doesn't take into account the tax incentives, that go in the financing plan. And in the budget there's already a 15% of profit for the producers. This movie will be a profit from the first ticket sold on.
JWStubner
JWStubner - 10/12/2011, 5:23 AM
It's the same thing Warner Bros. did with Green Lantern. They needlessly set themselves up for failure. Why does Hollywood do this to themselves?
CBMfan001
CBMfan001 - 10/12/2011, 5:55 AM
well the trailer felt like tron legacy for me,didn't really do much to make it a must watch or make it highly anticipated,so i think it will play like tron legacy unless something amazing happens
HaroldOfGalactus
HaroldOfGalactus - 10/12/2011, 6:02 AM
then how do you explain this
TheJackBurton
TheJackBurton - 10/12/2011, 6:15 AM
@DoctorJamesWF, The lion the witch and the wardrobe is the first book of the Narnia series. The movies are based on the original order as Lewis wrote them, not the chronological order which is a relatively new way to order the series
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