Bruce Timm On Why You'll Never See A Green Arrow Or Aquaman Solo Animated Film

Bruce Timm On Why You'll Never See A Green Arrow Or Aquaman Solo Animated Film

Bruce Timm talks Justice League: Doom, DC Nation, and looking at the source material when it comes time to pick the next animated feature.

By MarkJulian - Oct 28, 2011 11:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Animated Features
Source: Big Shiny Robot


Source: Big Shiny Robot

Speaking to Big Shiny Robot, the legendary Bruce Timm shared the following:

Q: How involved were you in getting Lauren Faust for Super Best Friends Forever and the Aardman Batman shorts?

TIMM: Oh, not at all.

Q: Are you going to be working with them at all?

TIMM: We’ve been talking with the producers on the DC Nation doing maybe possibly some stuff for them, but I’ve got to figure out a way to squeeze it into my schedule.

Q: When you’re looking for new projects that are within the DC Universe, is it difficult to deal with that wealth of riches that you have to choose from in the source material, or do you have a mental list of things that you say, “I’d really like to go back and do this if they gave me the opportunity.”

TIMM: It is kind of a broad question, and hopefully I can answer it in a way without insulting tons and tons of people, but…I wish there was more really strong source material like All-Star Superman or Batman: Year One for us to adapt into movies. There really aren’t. There’s a lot of good comics over the entire course of history, but in terms of finding a really well-known comic like Batman: Year One or Dark Knight Returns that’s not only a great comic but also famous and has its own name-recognition value, there aren’t that many of them out there. Is there a Dark Knight equivalent for Aquaman or for Green Arrow? No, there really isn’t. So there may be good stories out there, but they’re not on that same level. It definitely makes it easier when there’s a story like Batman: Year One or Dark Knight or All-Star Superman or The New Frontier. Something that’s really that strong and you can read the comic and go, “OK, I can totally see how that would work as an animated film.” There aren’t really that many properties out there that are like that.

Q: So it could work as a very successful story, but it might not translate into your area.

TIMM: Well, as a good example is Justice League: Doom. I read the Tower of Babel storyline when it first came out, and there were things about it that I really really liked, but for years everyone kept asking, “Oh, when are you going to do Tower of Babel? when are you going to do Tower of Babel?” and it doesn’t really work as an animated movie because there’s things that get up that don’t really pay off, it doesn’t have a movie structure to it, and it doesn’t really have a super larger-than-life quality to it. But then we were talking about it again just a couple of years ago, and going back and rethinking about the book because it’s a really, really strong idea for a movie: the idea that Batman has these contingency plans on how to take down the Justice League if they’d ever gone bad, and then those plans fall into the wrong hands and the villain actually puts those plans into action. It’s a really good, strong story motivator, so we felt like we could do something of our own with it. We’re always adapting ideas and things from the comics, but it may not always be a literal adaptation.



So...what are your thoughts? Do you have that perfect Green Arrow or Aquaman storyline that deserves an animation adaption? Or maybe a different character is more deserving? Sound off below in the comments section.



Bruce Walter Timm (born on February 8, 1961) is an American character designer, animator and producer. He is also a writer and artist working in comics, and is known for his contributions building the modern DC Comics animated franchise, the DC animated universe.

Timm's early career in animation was varied; he started at Filmation, working on the layout of Blackstar, Flash Gordon, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe and its spin-off She-Ra: Princess of Power, and The Lone Ranger (Timm also did background work on G.I. Joe). He also worked for numerous other employers, including Ralph Bakshi, Don Bluth Productions, and attempted to find work at Marvel Comics and DC Comics, but without luck. In 1989, Timm joined Warner Bros. At Warner, Timm worked on Tiny Toon Adventures.

However, Timm is best known for his subsequent work on the animated series based on various DC Comics superheroes, popularly referred to as the "DCAU" (DC animated universe). Along with his Tiny Toons partner Eric Radomski, Timm co-created and produced Batman: The Animated Series, which premiered on September 5, 1992, and went on to co-create and produce Superman: The Animated Series (premiered in September 1996), The New Batman Adventures (premiered in September 1997), and Batman Beyond (premiered in January 1999). He also served as producer on the feature-length Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker before taking the helm as creator and producer of the animated version of Justice League, which debuted in November 2001. This series continued in the form of Justice League Unlimited. Timm actually had very little to do with the production of the Teen Titans animated series, though because of a mistake in the first season end credits he is often mistaken for an executive producer. Timm was also the producer and co-director of the direct-to-video Superman Doomsday.

Although he shared character designer duties on Superman: The Animated Series and Justice League with James Tucker, Timm did virtually all the original character designs for Batman: The Animated Series himself (with the exceptions of Mr. Freeze and the Riddler, who were designed by Mike Mignola and the characters Man Bat and the Mad Hatter, who were designed by Kevin Nowlan).

DC universe animated series, including Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Batman Beyond, and other DC-set works associated with Timm (and his collaborators') art styles are often referred to by fans as "The Timmverse" of DC comics, relating to those series' distillation of popular storylines from the comic book versions or the outright introduction of new characters or relationships (such as Harley Quinn, alterations to The Question's personality and background, or Batman and Wonder Woman's romantic fling).

His 2008 project Batman: Gotham Knight is a departure from the "Timmverse" style, with Timm in a producer role collaborating with Japanese animators on a direct-to-DVD anthology that takes place between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Though Timm does not usually work as an actor, he has played several characters in the animated series he has been involved in. His cameos include the episode of Batman: The Animated Series, "Beware the Gray Ghost", playing the toy shop owner, as himself in the episode of The New Batman Adventures, "Holiday Knights", and also as the leader of the Jokerz gang in Batman Beyond, which he joked he did under duress and also joked was 'Emmy-Award Winning material'. More recently, he appeared in an animated form in Batman: The Brave and the Bold episode Legends of the Dark Mite in a comic book convention parody scene, where he was wearing Joker's costume, along with Paul Dini wearing Harley Quinn's costume. Prior to that he was animated in The Batman, appearing as a mental patient in Arkham. He has also played a guard in the direct-to-video animated film, Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.

Timm made a cameo appearance in the 2009 film Green Lantern: First Flight as Bug Boy, and played The Riddler in the 2010 film Batman: Under the Red Hood.




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superotherside
superotherside - 10/28/2011, 11:20 AM
Too bad I'd love to see an Aquaman or Green Arrow solo animated film... but why can't they just do something slightly original with the characters? And I know I'd watch it if nothing else because, it's a DC animated film not because I knew the character... lol
Oxion
Oxion - 10/28/2011, 11:22 AM
He has a point, as much as i'd like to see those movies, the people really just don't hsve that much interest in them like they do other stories and heroes. I mean seriously, what is the most popular Green Arrow story/comic? how many people know about it?
GiftedYoungster
GiftedYoungster - 10/28/2011, 11:35 AM
It sucks that won't branch out.

How friggin' awesome was that Spectre short in "Showcase"!?!?

(just rewatched it a few days ago)
GiftedYoungster
GiftedYoungster - 10/28/2011, 11:35 AM
They*

Occupy Edit Buttons.
Dedpool
Dedpool - 10/28/2011, 11:39 AM
Green Arrow: YEar One was prety good for an origin piece but probably wouldn't be the best for an animated film.

They real just need to start doing some elseworld tales. Red Son, Batman: In Darkest Knight, Superman: Speeding Bullets, and a bunch of others would make good animated films with a few changes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elseworlds#Noted_titles
djohnpi
djohnpi - 10/28/2011, 11:48 AM
I have an do a movie like the DC ONLINE THING. Or just take a fricking chance dammmmm.
headlopper
headlopper - 10/28/2011, 11:49 AM
Power girl.




st1s
st1s - 10/28/2011, 11:50 AM
The classic GL/GA is the biggest GA series I remember but I doubt it would work. Longbow hunters was also another defining GA series.

I would love to see Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow animated
MutantEquality
MutantEquality - 10/28/2011, 11:55 AM
I believe in Green Arrow Year One as well. I think it's the best piece for a secondary character. I think it defiantly has a movie quality to it and I think fans would enjoy it. As for taking a chance....and maybe it just me but I would LOVE to see a movie of Bruce Wayne Traveling the world and training. Show where he goes and what exactly he learns. Tie in the people he met like Zatanna over te years. That would be truly amazing.
As for DC animated? Maybe they should do more like "Tower of Babel". Take a fantastic premise from the comics and give alot of characters a real showing like they started to in "Justice League Two worlds" when Batman recruited more heroes.
MutantEquality
MutantEquality - 10/28/2011, 11:56 AM
Do Blacke
Shaman
Shaman - 10/28/2011, 11:59 AM
superotherside- I'm with you on that! They don't need to adapt a specific story. They can come up with their own as long as it doesn't go against canon or character.
MutantEquality
MutantEquality - 10/28/2011, 12:00 PM
And for Gods sake do Blackest Night!!!! Do a trilogy with parts for everyone. Could be the "Star Wars" of DC animation!!! Everyone likes Zombies and everyone could have a shot to be great. Show ALL the different lantern and show all the secondary characters as well. And Please Please show Hal Jordan and the other Elite Lantern sparking with power. Let it pulse out of them. Show Hal power up like a Super Saiyan with his will and make the movie epic. Not watered down!!!! Just got the chills.
AlReg
AlReg - 10/28/2011, 12:02 PM
Tab Murphy the screen writer of many of these projects said at some point that a Green Arrow Year One animated film was under development but it was cancelled. I think that is the type of thing Bruce Timm refers to even a Batgirl Year One film was planned then scrapped.
plasticman
plasticman - 10/28/2011, 12:06 PM
I just read Superman: Red Son recently and have to say that it would make for a great animated movie. Otherwise, Kingdom Come and Supermax: Green Arrow.

Timm has a point, but an original story, not a story seen before in the books but based on that universe would be great. For example, a mystery movie involving The Question or anything with that handsome Plasticman fellow.
rastaZen
rastaZen - 10/28/2011, 12:07 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmm Power Girl :)
VictorHugo
VictorHugo - 10/28/2011, 12:07 PM
I loved that Green Arrow storyarch in which he looks for his
old possessions with Roy Harper. That felt so real and heartfelt and so damn ADULT.

The aftermath of the ressurrection, in which the superheroes have a pact to collect their old things in case the other dies in order to protect each others families. Iits like "Superfriends" behind the curtains.

But as much as i loved it, it depends heavily on previous stories.
n1ghtw1ng2832
n1ghtw1ng2832 - 10/28/2011, 12:09 PM
THE FLASH: BLITZ
Optimus83
Optimus83 - 10/28/2011, 12:15 PM
Aquaman or Green Arrow can be good movies, but I think Flash would be better because it is recognized
OtakuPapi
OtakuPapi - 10/28/2011, 12:22 PM
I seriously doubt the general audience is aware of many of the storylines and arcs in comics.I understand what he is saying but its bs, you have to promote your characters and establish them, the way he is talking the only dc movies theyll have are Batman and Superman.The Wonder woman movie was amazing but i doubt we will see anything one of those because its all about promotion and the long run and establishing characters with those outside of their general audience.So what he is saying is borderline bs, Dc has a wealth of characters but at the end of the day its all about believing in those characters,it sounds like he believes in the big brand names but nothing outside of that. Hell Let Anime Artist Adapt them, like Marvel did, license and share the rights to an anime,itll do alot to promote the characters but anyways ugh
Philvis
Philvis - 10/28/2011, 12:26 PM
The headline is a bit misleading. In that interview he does not say you will never see a Green Arrow or Aquaman animated movie. He's just saying there are not many strong source materials out there to make a movie from and mentions Green Arrow and Aquaman as examples.
Coldblood6
Coldblood6 - 10/28/2011, 12:30 PM
Translation:
"We don't have faith in our other characters ability to sell so we'll stick to Superman and Batman as much as possible."
Coldblood6
Coldblood6 - 10/28/2011, 12:31 PM
I'm not dissing DC characters here, I'm just criticising what they are doing, or not doing.
ClarkFarley2012
ClarkFarley2012 - 10/28/2011, 12:33 PM
Aquaman could work. If they don't make him lame like the Super Friends. Cartoons are about the only thing they can get right lol.
Fogs
Fogs - 10/28/2011, 12:38 PM
Coldblood6 - sad but true
whatevillurks
whatevillurks - 10/28/2011, 12:43 PM
Would love to see a period Justice Society movie. Give me some Per Degaton and Vandal Savage.
TheStranger
TheStranger - 10/28/2011, 12:45 PM
Thats kinda BS, Quiver was amazing, people would watch an animated "Quiver" movie.
warlock
warlock - 10/28/2011, 12:49 PM
I hate His, Art liked it in the 90, s
DrCKasady
DrCKasady - 10/28/2011, 12:50 PM
i totally disagree. the way the new aquaman comics are looking. i would be so down for an aquaman solo animated...or live action ;P
i think aquaman is really going to show he means business
TheGreatone0207
TheGreatone0207 - 10/28/2011, 12:54 PM
For Green Arrow, "Quiver" would make a great movie or maybe do a Green Arrow/Green lantern team up. For Aquaman, they need to do a origin story and I think it would be good.
Shaman
Shaman - 10/28/2011, 12:55 PM
I'm with William Shatner-uh... i mean warlock.
Mastyrwerk
Mastyrwerk - 10/28/2011, 12:58 PM
There are so many Flash stories that have such a grand scope: time traveling and the speed force and all. Terminal Velocity would be cool. Get Micheal Rosenbaum to continue voicing him and I'd buy a strictly Flash animated movie.
KilledHal9000
KilledHal9000 - 10/28/2011, 1:17 PM
Green Arrow: Year One
HannibalKing
HannibalKing - 10/28/2011, 1:21 PM
So this may translate into "I don't want to make a movie where the story and art aren't already laid out for us."
Lazy man, lazy.
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