What FOX's Daredevil Got Right

What FOX's Daredevil Got Right

Can Marvel's new light-hearted universe match this tone?

Editorial Opinion
By RobGrizzly - Aug 20, 2012 07:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

There has been something exciting to happen in the latest news from the comic book world: Daredevil, a property formerly owned by 20th Century Fox has reverted back to Marvel ownership, meaning Marvel Studios is now free to use him in any movie they see fit. As any fan, this is great to hear, because it is frustrating knowing that there are Marvel characters out there that the company owns, but doesn’t have movie rights for.

Oddly, with the recent announcement (an unprecedented occurrence in the young lifespan of CBMs) there seems to be a tinge of disappointment. It seems there were quite a few fans that were interested in the proposed 70s-Crime Thriller remake that director Joe Carnahan (Smokin’ Aces, The A-Team, The Grey- all movies I loved) had in store for a reboot. More interesting still, was the possibility of a “trade” between Marvel and Fox in which they would let Fox keep The Man Without Fear in exchange for Fantastic Four characters Galactus and The Silver Surfer. I guess people are really excited about the more cosmic aspects to what is being touted “Phase 2” of Marvel’s cinematic agenda. Of course, at the end of the day, I want Marvel to own the rights to ALL their characters, but in this particular situation, I don’t feel that burned. I sit cautiously about the new cosmic approach anyway.


I am a Daredevil fan. And the movie is responsible for a big part of that. While mildly aware of him back in the day as a third-tier superhero (like Iron Man, before he got famous), the 2003 film got me checking out his comics, and over the years, (thank you Bendis and Maleev) Matt Murdock quickly became my second favorite character in Marvel comics.
As I look back on the movie- which admittedly, I saw 4 times in theaters, more than an I've done for any movie ever (If that disgusts you, go ahead and stop reading now)- and hear this news, I just want to plead a case for Fox, which did a better job with the character than they get credit for.



Let me get this out of the way from the start: DD has some hokey crap in it to be sure. The CG effects are embarrassing and only get worse as the movie goes on (the climax in the church is almost unwatchable). Murdock’s showdown with Kingpin doesn’t work and doesn’t satisfy (the same could be said for Kingpin as a whole). You can take or leave the soundtrack, which is filled with dated hard rock tracks. And almost everything with Jennifer Garner’s Elektra is a fail. She’s miscast, the romance is hackneyed, and that school yard fight is cringe-inducing.


But underneath the surface, there are a lot more interesting things going on...(spoilers ahead)



Daredevil is unique among most major superheroes for having strong religious undertones, and many Catholic themes. This gets translated in the movie with many symbols (including another awesome direct-from-the comic first shot) For how the story operates, Murdock’s confessionals to the priest help to put an existential layer to his plight, and makes an interesting commentary on crime-fighting vigilantes in general. It’s the type of stuff Batman starts discussing with Alfred in Nolan’s flicks, but again, as far as movies go, Daredevil started doing it first.





Basically, they really nail the heart of Matt Murdock’s origin. I even like how it was told in flashback, as opposed to starting the movie with Daredevil as a kid. This is a hero that never really started off innocent. He lived a rough life in a rough neighborhood, with a father who boxes for a living. Still the scenes with his father are very affecting to me for some reason (there’s something about struggling single dads that gets to me), and I really thought the film got off on the right foot. I would say the first 15 minutes are easily the movie’s best.




Daredevil’s “radar sense” was well realized. It worked visually for the most part, and they used them in a variety of ways; you’ll see him use his hearing as a lie detector in court, smell Elektra before she enters a room, and create physical vibrations to pinpoint people’s locations. His power probably paid off best in a rainy rooftop scene that I dare say was pretty romantic. They also did well with the drawback that his senses are extra sensitive and he can be overloaded a lot of the time, especially with sound.




Ben Affleck gets a lot of heat as an actor (don’t know why, he’s a cool guy, and can be good in a lot of things) and perhaps many feel he was miscast in the role. The thing is, he himself is a big fan of Daredevil, and is largely responsible for even getting the movie made. So many people are personlly down on Affleck (who has since become a great director) they don’t actually pay attention to what he’s doing in the role. I think his passion showed, he captures Murdock’s brooding personality well, and I appreciated fellow comics fan Jon Faverau cast as best friend Foggy Nelson.



I’d argue that Colin Farrell is the reason to watch this movie. A great example of how much fun a downright nasty villain can be, Farrell chews all his scenes, and really puts a cool spin on Bullseye. No, his being Irish didn’t bother me. The point was, his deadly accuracy is well showcased (particularly in the Director’s Cut) and that Bullseye brand on his forehead was a wicked touch. Like Bane’s mask, this is character that doesn’t need a costume, just that one recognizable piece of iconography.




They killed the girl. This is the best thing about the movie. Hands down. It was a ballsy move that I appreciated. Coming off the heels of Parker walking away from Mary Jane at the end of Spider-Man (which many people were mad about at the time), and pre-dating the explosive fate of Rachel Dawes, we just weren’t seeing this in superhero movies. If you’re familiar with Murdock, you know his love life is basically cursed, and I’m glad the filmmakers stayed true to that aspect of the character and the comics- so much as directly lifting the iconic stab from the page! It’s the type of bad luck that defines DD’s life, and it sets film apart from its superhero brethren in a great, dark way.


Marvel’s universe is solidly established as pretty light and fantastical. Is there room for the dark and gritty Daredevil in this new shared world they created? Perhaps he can join The Punisher in their Marvel Knights sub-division, but even War Zone was a pre-Avengers release, and the synergy of the direction the studio is focused on, doesn’t suggest that they are interested in straying from that.


Anyway, I’m thankful for the movie we got (when so many superheroes have yet to even get a chance), and look forward to his return, no matter the fashion. Maybe we’ll get an early version of the yellow costume? Some ninja training with blind master Stick? DD has cool villains to mine like Typhoid Mary and Purple Man (look him up, he’s more bad ass than he sounds), and more Bullseye is always welcome.
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AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 8/20/2012, 7:16 AM
I agree with you on all points. Good write up!
Anthrax
Anthrax - 8/20/2012, 7:25 AM
directors cut what made me love it
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 8/20/2012, 8:29 AM
I like this movie a lot. Especially the directors cut. It's funny when you with the special feature on that DVD and hear the offering opinions of the director and what the studio wanted to put in the movie. I for one wish his movie stayed with Fox. I think it will be a vey long time before we see Daredevil on screen again.
jessepostal
jessepostal - 8/20/2012, 9:23 AM
Every time i pop this movie in i wanna like it but there is so many things holding it back, the cgi takes you out of focus right from the beginning with that stupid rat. The acting is cheesy, bullseye is way too over the top, garner is annoying, Coolio is in it haha. It has trouble finding what it wants to be. Here's hoping the next one can find it's rhythm.
marvelstudios
marvelstudios - 8/20/2012, 9:23 AM
I agree with AcidicHeart. TIH was pretty dark and intense. If and when Marvel decide to make DD, I bet they would pull it off better than FOX.

Also, one thing i hated about FOX's DD was the costume. I didnt like the leather.
Frogman
Frogman - 8/20/2012, 9:30 AM
MCU should expand into Marvel Knights. They have Punisher, they have Blade, Daredevil seems to be going back to them too and after Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance it could be pretty likely that Ghost Rider will be going back there in a few years so they should do Marvel Knights that are connected to the MCU but don't necessarily "hang out" with the likes of the Avengers.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/20/2012, 9:33 AM
I never had much of a problem with the DD movie, aside from a few cosmetic things, like Bullseye not having a costume, and Michael Clark Duncan. But there have FAR worse CBM's than DD.

Also, just as a thought, since Marvel doesn't have the Spidey rights, and likely never will, I think DD would be a perfect choice to be the character that reveals his identity if they ever do a Civil War movie.
CoolantTech
CoolantTech - 8/20/2012, 4:19 PM
I really enjoyed it despite what alot of the haterz say, wasn't perfect but it was a solid film
xRelentlessx
xRelentlessx - 8/20/2012, 7:21 PM
"They killed the girl. The best thing about the movie"
Her death was dumb in the comic and was dumb in the movie. It was used to create a plot point for Daredevil at the expense of an interesting female character's life. I choose to ignore her "death". The worlds greatest assassin dies at the hands of someone who has really good aim? Bull! This movie isn't great but I still like it because of the nostalgia. It introduced me to Elektra (even if she was done wrong. I got interested enough to read the comics.) and my favorite band, Evanescence!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/20/2012, 7:32 PM
@ Murdock

I realize that, but Marvel doesnt have the rights to Spidey, so I think DD would be the best choice to play Spidey's role in a Civil War story. He's really the only other character that relies as heavily on his secret identity as Spidey. I wouldnt have a problem with them making DD Stark's poster boy at first and then changing sides to Cap.

Assuming of course we ever see a CW adaptation.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/20/2012, 7:35 PM
@ Murdock

Also, lets face it, in Civil War DD didnt have mjch of a part to play. He was just in the background the entire time. And he fought Deadpool in that tie-in. Other than that, he wasnt important at all.

Would it bother you if they changed it up like that? I would personally be thrilled to see DD get some spotlight like that. He's a great character and deserves more.
kong
kong - 8/21/2012, 3:16 AM
I actually love this movie and i've never seen the directors cut. This is a great write up and i love the bar scene with Bullseye.
RobGrizzly
RobGrizzly - 8/21/2012, 6:18 AM
Thanks everyone!

@xRelentlessx:

You have to understand that Bullseye is arguably one of the 10 Most Deadly villains in all of comics. The point is, taking out a ninja the caliber of Elektra makes him that much better. Its not about who would win in a fist fight. Its a barometer for how ruthless he can be.
Like the death of Robin, the death of Gwen Stacy, or the death of Superman himself, the most infamous baddies need to get that notch on their belt.

Its events like this that put Daredevil on the map. Even when you think about when Frank Miller worked on it in the 80s, the comic got really hardcore, and forced fellow competitors (like DC's Batman) to step up their game in the vigilante department.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 8/21/2012, 9:01 AM
I agree, this movie rocked. I remember watching this with my ex and she wasn't into CBMs, didn't like Spider-man, but she really liked Daredevil.

The movie owes a lot to Favreau.

I'm not sure what was wrong with the Kingpin/Daredevil fight, besides the one bit where he kind of scoops him up and hurls him across the room in a gravity defying move... I thought the rest of that bit was great.

The imagery of the movie is also amazing and I daresay, better than Nolan's Batman Begins. The image you posted of Matt clinging to the cross in a near fetal position; Matt crushing the rose laid on his father's corpse with the blood running from the petals; the stained-glass window in the church; and my favorite - the cowl and the rose on Fisk's floor with blood running thin in the water.

I also actually prefer Bullseye's target IMPRINT (not tattoo) on his forehead to a costume. Yes, I do recall the comics where he makes a point of getting his costume designed during Frank Miller's run, and Alan Moore even copied that scene in a Green Arrow one-shot (irony), but Bullseye is a crazy goon, not a professional who happens to be a hitman. The look fit his personality, particularly with the tank and trench coat - he looked nuts. With spandex, he would probably look like someone who uses the costume as part of a ritual - and that he kills people so indiscriminately would mean he'd have to wear it indefinitely.

I think the most irritating part of the movie, however, is the soundtrack, and that they mixed Elektra with Maya.
xRelentlessx
xRelentlessx - 8/21/2012, 11:34 AM
@RobGrizzly Then why not off the Devil himself? Miller has always had lady issues. He finally made a character that wasn't a prostitute and didn't know what to do with her so he killed her off. Sorry but I've always found her death stupid and unnecessary. Yeah, many could argue that "she was brought back to life so you should be happy". That's not the point. The point is that Miller killed her off in the first place when it wasn't necessary. I'm sorry it's just irritating to me. Whenever a female character dies it's to create a plot point to further the male character's story arc, but when a male super hero dies, they usually die heroically and come back stronger and better than they were before. Unfair really.
Stumblin
Stumblin - 8/21/2012, 12:46 PM
A handful of scenes that are inspired from the comics doesn't save the crapfest that was this movie (including the director's cut which was in no way shape or form an improvement)

This movie blows in every way.
tonytony
tonytony - 9/3/2012, 12:47 PM
Saw Daredevli and to me it was a missed opportunity. It wasnt good at all.
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