New Details On BATMAN v SUPERMAN's Dark Knight; He Put The SUICIDE SQUAD In Prison

New Details On BATMAN v SUPERMAN's Dark Knight; He Put The SUICIDE SQUAD In Prison

Zack Snyder and Ben Affleck talk in detail here about what we should expect from the Caped Crusader who will be introduced in Batman v Superman, including whether or not he's actually the villain of this movie and his history with the members of Suicide Squad's Task Force X...

By JoshWilding - Jul 29, 2015 06:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman vs. Superman
Source: Empire Magazine
The latest edition of Empire Magazine includes tons of new Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice details, with a particular focus on Ben Affleck's Batman. As has been the case ever since he was cast, much of that focus revolves around the fact that the Gone Girl star is playing an older Caped Crusader than we're used to seeing. "We are playing him 45 or 46," director Zack Snyder confirms. "He has been Batman for 20 years. All the history is there. Was there a Robin at one time? Possibly." This interview obviously took place before the trailer was released as producer Charles Roven also teased the fate of a certain Boy Wonder. "He has lost those near and dear to him, and not necessarily from old age of disease..." That could of course also refer to Batman's other allies, especially as Jim Gordon's fate in the DC Extended Universe isn't all that clear at this point. 

"Initially I thought, 'I'm older, it doesn't seem like the right sort of fit for me,'" adds star Ben Affleck. "Then Zack pitched me his concept for this older, more broken, kind of f**ked up Batman. It was something we haven't seen. We have seen that Batman is willing to cross the line to protect people. That vigilantism has been a part of his character all along, and we are tapping into that mentality when faced by something as potentially as deadly a Superman." It's Superman's arrival which is really going to shake up the life of Batman by the sound of it, as Snyder went on to explain how the Man of Steel changes the vigilante's perceptions. "We want to assume that Batman has reached this point in his life and career as a superhero, and Superman represents a sort of philiophical change. He is a paradigm shift for Batman: 'I've been fighting criminals all my life, trying to find justice, and now I am confronted with a concept that is transcendent to me.' In the face of Superman, a man robbing a bank doesn't matter." 


"He's having a crisis of conscience. 'Am I really just a vigilante who stalks the alleys of Gotham?'" asks Snyder. "It is rich stuff that he deals with. Ben does an amazing job." Early on in their feature, the director indicates that Batman is in some ways the villain of this movie, but later clarifies that by stating that who fans side with when the heroes meet in battle will ultimately come down to their own perceptions. "It's a point of view thing. That is why Dawn of Justice is the full title. What it does is allow us to start this conversation." Don't go thinking that the Dark Knight isn't a hero though. The magazine reveals that Batman does indeed have history with The Joker and Harley Quinn, and indeed all of the criminals in Belle Reve who will ultimately make up Task Force X in Suicide Squad. Batman is responsible for putting them all in there. What do you guys think?
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Grodd87
Grodd87 - 7/29/2015, 6:08 AM
Hope the opening scene is batman putting them all there or at least him and croc in the sewers
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/29/2015, 6:11 AM
Yea where's jim gordon??? Hope he's not dead
PanochaLibre
PanochaLibre - 7/29/2015, 6:11 AM
Like Lois said," let's stop, measuring dicks."
spidey1994
spidey1994 - 7/29/2015, 6:12 AM
So Batman also has history with Killer Croc and Deadshot as well? YES!!!!
staypuffed
staypuffed - 7/29/2015, 6:13 AM
"We want to assume that Batman has reached this point in his life and career as a superhero, and Superman represents a sort of philiophical change. He is a paradigm shift for Batman: 'I've been fighting criminals all my life, trying to find justice, and now I am confronted with a concept that is transcendent to me.' In the face of Superman, a man robbing a bank doesn't matter."

AlexdoxA
AlexdoxA - 7/29/2015, 6:14 AM
I just don't want Will Smith to be the "dedicated father who had to do some bad things for the sake of his loving daughter" and acts all cool and suave and is 100% integrity. A good-on-the inside type criminal.
EgonSpengler
EgonSpengler - 7/29/2015, 6:16 AM
I'm so glad they're implying this amazing backstory involving 20 years of Batman lore that adds weight and depth to Batman's perception of Superman, instead of actually showing us that backstory in one or two Batman solo films leading up to the confrontation between the two heroes. Fleshing out backstories is so Marvel. Honestly, I kinda wish Iron Man 2 had been the Civil War storyline. Why have we had to wait 8 years for IM vs. Cap?
Pasto
Pasto - 7/29/2015, 6:18 AM
@AlexdoxA
That'll more than likely be exactly what people who go and see Suicide Squad get.
spidey1994
spidey1994 - 7/29/2015, 6:18 AM
Does also mean he has history with Captain Boomerang, who is basically a Flash villain?
antman8o8
antman8o8 - 7/29/2015, 6:21 AM
I like that he acknowledges that Bats put them away!

P862010
P862010 - 7/29/2015, 6:21 AM
AlexdoxA you realize you just described deadshot

deadshot is a bad guy but he has morals he is not like deathstroke
sixthsense
sixthsense - 7/29/2015, 6:22 AM
Bulldawg2014
Bulldawg2014 - 7/29/2015, 6:22 AM
My ONE issue with this is that it means that we may never see this version of batman in his prime. It takes so much of the character's history and shoves it deeply into the past. There's also the issue that it will require a huge suspension of disbelief if batman is still involved in the film universe in 10 years which I'm going to assume they want the franchise to last at least that long.
BurningBeard
BurningBeard - 7/29/2015, 6:23 AM
Sounds good to me. I can dig it!
Very excited for DC to get there franchise going
AlaRebeIde
AlaRebeIde - 7/29/2015, 6:24 AM
Jimbo its pretty dead. "20 years in Gotham, and how many good guys are left? How many stay that way?"

IMHO. There is no way Jimbo stop being a good guy because reasons.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 7/29/2015, 6:27 AM
I hope we get to see Batman punch out all of Jokers teeth to explain the stupid gold grill.
Bulldawg2014
Bulldawg2014 - 7/29/2015, 6:29 AM
@egonspengler yeah lets not have characters with fleshed out backstories, clearly defined histories, and explicitly defined motivations. It's not like those are qualities that define franchise film making...
AlaRebeIde
AlaRebeIde - 7/29/2015, 6:29 AM
@Mego false reporting its becoming a thing in this site. Funny, because its considering a way of trolling...
SuperCat
SuperCat - 7/29/2015, 6:30 AM
Bulldawg2014
Bulldawg2014 - 7/29/2015, 6:30 AM
*good franchise film making
YeezusWept
YeezusWept - 7/29/2015, 6:30 AM
The only thing Batman kills is booty.
EgonSpengler
EgonSpengler - 7/29/2015, 6:31 AM
[Guys, I know Civil War as IM2 is dumb because you can't just jump from a single-hero origin movie to a sequel involving that hero's confrontation with another hero without setting up the other hero's backstory and opposing viewpoint. I was making a point about the overarching DCCU strategy]
AlaRebeIde
AlaRebeIde - 7/29/2015, 6:32 AM
@Bulldawg2014 WB/DC its playing the long game with Batman, i think that they are setting up a Batman Beyond franchise after the slate announced, with Batffleck passing the mantle on Terry McGinnis relaunching the character for their next phase of movies.
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