New Evidence Seems To Suggest 'The Joker' Used To Be [SPOILER] In The DC Extended Universe

New Evidence Seems To Suggest 'The Joker' Used To Be [SPOILER] In The DC Extended Universe

You may have heard that popular (and hard to believe) fan theory that The Joker has a surprisingly close relationship with Batman in the DCEU. Now, a new piece of evidence dug up by a fan seems to suggest that's the case, and if so, it's a major and controversial change to the comics...

By JoshWilding - Aug 16, 2015 04:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Suicide Squad
Source: Comic Book Resources
There are those who believe that The Joker used to be Robin in the world of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad. While that may sound ridiculous, it's worth bearing in mind that Dick Grayson went insane and became the new Joker in Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Strikes Back, so there's certainly precedent for this happening in the comics (especially as Zack Snyder is using The Dark Knight Returns as his inspiration). Surely the director won't shake things up that much?

Well, Batman asking Aflred in the Batman v Superman trailer "20 years in Gotham, how many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?" led many to believe that The Joker could be his former sidekick from early on, and now one redditor has pointed out the following which seems to once again link the two characters; they have matching scars. Could this Joker be a second generation version of the Clown Prince of Crime?! I don't think so to be honest, but it would explain the Robin tattoo and why this version of The Joker is so different to what's come before. This feels like a reach, but what do you guys think? As always, thoughts and theories in the usual place please!

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WombRaider
WombRaider - 8/16/2015, 4:30 PM
its not jason [frick]ing todd. im telling you. the set photos reveal that joker kisses harley before she becomes insane. if joker was todd, it would ruin the joker/harley relationship
Nadj76
Nadj76 - 8/16/2015, 4:31 PM
Whatever...just give me the movie.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 8/16/2015, 4:32 PM
Further evidence proves that a torso would have to fit in the suit - Joker has one. Coincidence?
kinghulk
kinghulk - 8/16/2015, 4:32 PM
i hate this fan theory and hope to god its fake
legopieface
legopieface - 8/16/2015, 4:33 PM
Lol, not even close... The "bullet hole" is clearly a jester bell.
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 8/16/2015, 4:34 PM


No.
DTor91
DTor91 - 8/16/2015, 4:35 PM
So tired of this made up story already.

Jared Leto is the same age as Ben Affleck. I mean sure, younger actors have played older characters and vice versa, but come on now.
JamesMann
JamesMann - 8/16/2015, 4:35 PM
This [frick]ing fan theory needs to die.
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 8/16/2015, 4:35 PM
Those scars look convincing.
pesmerga44
pesmerga44 - 8/16/2015, 4:36 PM
@MrCBM56

Both Jason Todd and Joker are male. Both Jason Todd and Joker are fairly young. Both Jason Todd and Joker have two arms, two legs, and a head. One I could consider a coincidence but all of these only a fool would throw away just empirical evidence.
DarkAvengers09
DarkAvengers09 - 8/16/2015, 4:36 PM
Please let this be true. Can't wait for the DCCU cinematic universe to fail.
Pebbles
Pebbles - 8/16/2015, 4:36 PM
Can Snyder or Ayer or even Batfleck himself shut this down! We all know this theory is complete bullshit and these idiots need to get over it. Joker has tattoos. Who Fricking cares?!
Nick56
Nick56 - 8/16/2015, 4:36 PM
lmfao this rumour again? seriously? we clearly see joker torturing pre-crazy harley in SS. this "rumour" (aka fan made bullshit) is laughable at best
CanIchangethis2
CanIchangethis2 - 8/16/2015, 4:37 PM
@kinghulk it's so dimwittedly stupid. It's these kinds of theories that prove than fanboys, no matter how much they love something, really have no idea how to create a flowing narrative. Also in your little theory, did Joker/Jason get shot, then spray paint on his armor after he died?

ALSO JARED LETO IS FREAKING OLDER THAN BATFLECK BRO. SHUT THAT S**T DOWN.
CletusKasady89
CletusKasady89 - 8/16/2015, 4:38 PM
Meh.
Nick56
Nick56 - 8/16/2015, 4:38 PM
Also Jared Leto is older than Ben Affleck, everyone saying something about the joker being younger or Todd's age or something should maybe use their heads
dapug88
dapug88 - 8/16/2015, 4:38 PM
Man I hope not! I don't like this rumor. There is one batman just let there be one joker!
ArtisticErotic
ArtisticErotic - 8/16/2015, 4:39 PM
This rumor is bullshit.
Nickk
Nickk - 8/16/2015, 4:39 PM
this is more bullshit then @McGee pimples on his dick
Nickk
Nickk - 8/16/2015, 4:39 PM
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 8/16/2015, 4:40 PM
I am just so done with this [frick]ing fan theory...
MoodyMax
MoodyMax - 8/16/2015, 4:42 PM
Actually, Josh, you dumbass...Dark Knight Strikes Back had Grayson as The Joker.
speedyg33
speedyg33 - 8/16/2015, 4:44 PM
I hope not. If this was one movie or just a Snyder trilogy ok maybe, but not for the entire DCU cinematic universe. Not fond of this.
Khanlark
Khanlark - 8/16/2015, 4:45 PM
Ya'll are so mad right now. Could this a month ago.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/SkylarkTonight/news/?a=122874
misterbatman212
misterbatman212 - 8/16/2015, 4:45 PM
the only people who believe this are the ones who don't want jared leto to be the joker
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/16/2015, 4:45 PM


It would LITERALLY ruin the Joker Harley dynamic. Don't believe it. These theories are suuuuuch a stretch its ridiculous
Sephiroth
Sephiroth - 8/16/2015, 4:46 PM

BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 8/16/2015, 4:48 PM


MrFridayNights
MrFridayNights - 8/16/2015, 4:48 PM
😂😂😂😂😂😂 lol what a [frick]ing retarded fan theory
SigmaCenturion
SigmaCenturion - 8/16/2015, 4:49 PM
If this is true things are going to look pretty pitiful for WB fans and the premature birth known as the dccu or the retarded version dceu which makes no sense since it isn't tied into the shows or comics. XD
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 8/16/2015, 4:50 PM
"Dick Grayson went insane and became the new Joker in Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns"

whoa, whoa, whoa, when did that happen? I wasn't aware of that O_O
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