David Goyer Justifies 'Superman''s Decision To Kill 'Zod' In MAN OF STEEL

David Goyer Justifies 'Superman''s Decision To Kill 'Zod' In MAN OF STEEL

It's perhaps the most controversial comic book movie moment of all-time, and now Man of Steel writer David Goyer has finally addressed the decision to have Superman break the neck of Zod in the closing moments of the divisive 2013 release. Hit the jump to read his comments...

By JoshWilding - Oct 28, 2015 08:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: Nerdist
During Superman's battle with General Zod at the end of Man of Steel, thousands of civilians were killed and the villain was ultimately stopped when the hero broke his neck. It was a significant moment for Superman as he was taking out the only member of his race left, but he did so because he knew Zod would never stop murdering innocent civilians. Despite that, it's still a very divisive moment, and now writer David Goyer has finally weighed in on why the story played out that way.
 
"The way I work, the way Chris [Nolan] works, is you do what’s right for the story. That exists entirely separately from what fans should or shouldn’t think of that character. You have to do what’s right for the story. In that instance, this was a Superman who had only been Superman for like, a week. He wasn’t Superman as we think of him in the DC Comics...or even in a world that conceived of Superman existing. He’d only flown for the first time a few days before that. He’d never fought anyone that had super powers before. And so he’s going up against a guy who’s not only super-powered, but has been training since birth to use those super powers, who exists as a superhuman killing machine, who has stated, ‘I will never stop until I destroy all of humanity.’ If you take Superman out of it, what’s the right way to tell that story? I think the right way to tell that story is if you take this powered alien who says, ‘You can have your race back, but you have to kill your adopted race,’ the moral, horrible situation to be in is to actually be forced to kill, not wanting to, the only other person from your race. Take Superman aside, I think that’s the right way to tell that story."


Do you agree with Goyer's justification for Superman taking the life of General Zod? It's certainly easy to see where he's coming from here, and this is an explanation which makes a lot of sense. Whether that will bring an end to the never ending debate about the hero's actions in Man of Steel is another matter, but weigh in with your thoughts on these comments in the usual place. 
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LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 10/28/2015, 8:18 AM
There isn't a problem with him killing Zod. It's how it was shown and handled which is why it was poor. The idea was good but how it was done wasn't.
EricBorder
EricBorder - 10/28/2015, 8:21 AM
This debate seems so familiar

JamesMann
JamesMann - 10/28/2015, 8:22 AM
Damn you, Wilding! I wrote a long ass comment to LEVI and now it's just gone... all that work, gone! Damn you!

JamesMann
JamesMann - 10/28/2015, 8:23 AM
@EricBorder

lol your prediction came true even earlier than I thought it would.
Earthbound
Earthbound - 10/28/2015, 8:23 AM
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 10/28/2015, 8:23 AM
It would have been better if you had one World Destroy things in Metropolis. Superman goes to try to take it out and you have Zod defend it. You have Superman fighting Zod and while that's going on, you have the military with the whole throw Kal's baby ship into the World Destroyer to set open the Phantom Zone.

Then you have the world destroyer thing sucked into the Phantom Zone with Superman punching Zod into it forcing him to go into the Phantom Zone.

Something to that affect would have been much better.
BodieBroadus
BodieBroadus - 10/28/2015, 8:24 AM
I understand the decision from a characterization and narrative point of view, but logistically they should have set it up better. Like, Superman could have just flown Zod up into space when he starts heat visioning, he's already got him in a lock. Or smash his face into the ground.
ChuckV
ChuckV - 10/28/2015, 8:24 AM
All Goyer proved is that he doesn't understand the Superman mythos/character… or writing a good story. Even one he helped write…. Zod "has been training since birth to use those super powers"?? Uh, last I remember, Zod didn't get his powers till he got to Earth and as he was attacking Kal-El.

Goyer should STFU. REALLY.
Spartan
Spartan - 10/28/2015, 8:25 AM
Zod wasn't training since birth to use super powers just to be a military man, and apparently not a very good one since his coup fails and Jorel beats him in hand to hand combat.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 10/28/2015, 8:25 AM
NightBoyWonder
NightBoyWonder - 10/28/2015, 8:25 AM
Similar to the Pa Kent death, great idea. Horrible execution.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 10/28/2015, 8:26 AM
@JamesMann

I saw you commented and clicked to see the article and it was gone.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU SAID!!!!!!

Pedrito
Pedrito - 10/28/2015, 8:26 AM
The neck snap was very fitting for this joyless, soulless, dull Superman movie.
Parkerluckpersonified
Parkerluckpersonified - 10/28/2015, 8:27 AM
@ChuckV also Zod wasn't born he was cloned or some shit, so how can he train from a birth he never had :-P stupid Goyer
JonC
JonC - 10/28/2015, 8:28 AM
"And so he’s going up against a guy who’s not only super-powered, but has been training since birth to use those super powers"

This is incorrect as Zod and his allies had no super powers until they came to earth...
GoogleWasMyIdea
GoogleWasMyIdea - 10/28/2015, 8:28 AM
Man, Zod had to die, period. I like the way it was handled (though I agree it could have been handled better), and I sincerely hope that Zod's death stays with Superman.

Sidenote, Goyer is confused as hell. Zod wasn't trained to use his powers from birth, he got them when he was on Earth. Zod was trained to be a cunning, tactic-using warrior general, hence the name "GENERAL" Zod.
Tuuralihn
Tuuralihn - 10/28/2015, 8:29 AM
I have no problem with the neck-snapping. I have a problem with the rest of the movie being so devoid of color and hope and fun.
EricBorder
EricBorder - 10/28/2015, 8:29 AM
@JamesMann

What if there is no tomorrow? There wasn't one today

marvelstudios
marvelstudios - 10/28/2015, 8:30 AM
Are we still talking about this?!

Given how the movie and the final battle went, Superman killing Zod was the ONLY way the fight could've ended. I repeat, the ONLY way.

Goyer and Snyder made the right decision at the end.

Zod was a good villain, I actually liked him more than I liked Cavills Superman.
ChuckV
ChuckV - 10/28/2015, 8:31 AM
@Parkerluckpersonified

True… which proves Goyer is MORE clueless than I thought!

MAN OF STEEL is a movie I'd like to forget, missteps and all. Fingers crossed that BvS is better.
thebamf
thebamf - 10/28/2015, 8:32 AM
I think it was necessary for his character development. Could it have been done better? Yeah, sure. I feel that that particular action of Supes killing Zod is what is going to make him swear to never take a life again.
Parkerluckpersonified
Parkerluckpersonified - 10/28/2015, 8:32 AM
Right my issue with the death of Zodd was that it wasn't like there was no alternative; those people could have just like walked away and not been heat visioned. It was just like it was Supes go to move. Of course Shannon was so awful throughout the movie i was glad to see the back of him.

Problems with this awful interpretation of superman and his mythos run much deeper but they've all been pointed out over and over and over.

People badmouth Fox but at least they realised Last Stand were awful and set out to fix what they'd done, similarly sony are quite open about Spider-man 3 being poor. Dunno why WB can't just say "yeah sorry we fricked up on that one, shouldn't have killed him"
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 10/28/2015, 8:33 AM
I think Superman should've just played Peek-a-boo with Zod... Cant his hands withstand the heat vision?
Then he could've did a super fart in Zods face to knock him out.



DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 10/28/2015, 8:34 AM
See's thread, remembers the last 2 years



Hopefully we get some more Suicide Squad covers today
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