EDITORIAL: "Make Mine Marvel"? No Thanks. Why DC Is Now The Place To Go For Quality Comics

EDITORIAL: "Make Mine Marvel"? No Thanks. Why DC Is Now The Place To Go For Quality Comics

Why has a lifetime "Marvel Guy" now decided to turn his back on the publisher? Well, it has an awful lot to do with inconsistent creative teams, headline grabbing gimmicks and generally poor storytelling decisions. Here's why I believe DC is now the company to turn to for must read comic books!

Editorial Opinion
By JoshWilding - Sep 11, 2013 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Comics

Marvel vs. DC. It’s a war which seems to have raged between fanboys for longer than any of us can remember, and it shows no signs of stopping anytime soon. Now, I am – or should that be WAS? – a Marvel guy. I grew up watching the Spider-Man animated series, and when I started reading comic books over a decade ago, it was Marvel all the way for me. It didn’t take me too long to read up on every character’s history (God bless Wikipedia) or to collect the biggest and best story arcs of the past in trade paperbacks. DC on the other hand was extremely inaccessible. Despite a few standalone story arcs and relaunched titles like Green Lantern, it was hard to ever really get into their books. However, it wasn’t only the need for an encyclopaedic knowledge of the DC Universe which held me back; the characters just didn’t appeal to me all that much either. For me, it really was a case of “Make Mine Marvel”.

That’s not to say Marvel were by any means perfect. None of the events which followed Civil War managed to live up to the hype in my eyes, while it’s hard to forgive or forget baffling story decisions like “One More Day” or anything even remotely related to The Sentry. However, the past year or two has seen what I believe to be a dramatic decrease in the quality of Marvel’s output. While the likes of Daredevil and Uncanny X-Force are/were undeniably amazing, there definitely doesn’t seem to be a high number of consistently good titles. While it was commonplace for a series to be launched to coincide with a movie or perhaps the conclusion of an event, Venom (now cancelled) is the highest numbered series at #40. Relaunch after relaunch, an erratic publishing schedule which sees titles come out two or three times a month and extremely inconsistent quality in artwork are now commonplace as Marvel also continues to alienate many of their best creators. For example, Greg Rucka’s incredible Punisher run was cut short in order to force the character into a relaunched Thunderbolts series...which came out at the same time as the existing Thunderbolts series...which had at that point been rebranded as Dark Avengers. Confused? Yeah, you should be.

The success of the Marvel Cinematic Universe has made Marvel a more globally recognised brand than ever, so it’s understandable that sales are now more important to them than ever (hence the endless new #1’s and headline grabbing gimmicks in place of quality storytelling). I don’t know if the blame lies with Disney or with Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso, but it saddens me to see Marvel in the state it now is. Their sales figures may be impressive, but since when was that synonymous with quality? Just think of the many awful movies which have gone on to find huge box office success! Take for example what is currently being done with Spider-Man. While an endgame may be in place, we currently have a murderer running around as one of their most iconic characters, and while Amazing Spider-Man #700 seemingly promised a redemptive arc for Otto Octavius, he has continued to kill and brutally maim his enemies. Is this really the kind of thing I want to share with my kids one day?

DC have their fair share of issues, but ever since “The New 52” relaunch, it’s hard to deny that they are consistently better than Marvel. The fact that books like Animal Man, Aquaman and Swamp-Thing are all better than the majority of titles featuring big name heroes really does say it all. While Marvel’s events seemingly exist as a way of selling a ridiculous number of tie-in’s and launching countless new series’ (which are almost always cancelled soon after), DC’s recent “Trinity War” was not only a self-contained six issue event that was downright excellent, but also led to the genuinely brilliant “Forever Evil”. Can the same be said of the critically panned Age of Ultron? Artists also seem to now work on a revolving door. The quality of artwork considerably decreases as sales do, while big name creators are brought in for the first arc of a series before suddenly being replaced. I appreciate that this may sound like I'm simply highlighting all of Marvel's bad points, but you have to understand that it's almost necessary to do that in order to highlight DC's good ones. There may be the odd editorial issue (such as the recent Batwoman "controversy" if you wish to call it that), but everything I'm saying here about Marvel doesn't apply to DC. Combine that with the fact that they have a stable of superheroes who have never been more interesting or relevant, and it simply makes them THE place to go for the kind of quality storytelling and character work I've come to expect as a fan.

As of right now, I find myself happier being a DC guy. No, there’s nothing that says you have to be one or the other, but looking at my monthly pull list says it all. As time passes, it consists of less and less Marvel books and an increasing number of DC ones. If you had told me a few years ago that there would come a day when I didn’t read a single Avengers series (not including Uncanny Avengers which reads far more like an X-Men series anyway) or the Fantastic Four, I wouldn’t have believed you. Eight months has also been more than enough for me to decide that it’s time to abandon my favourite character – Spider-Man – too. Marvel’s dominance of the multiplexes may show no signs of slowing down, but Earth’s Mightiest Heroes currently have nothing on the Justice League. While the likes of Mark Waid and Chris Yost will ensure that Marvel always has at least a few must-buy books, there’s now only one place to look for consistent and quality storytelling and artwork. DC. Oh, and Image. Really, who needs Marvel anymore?

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TonyChu
TonyChu - 9/11/2013, 12:16 PM
Aaaaawwww sssshhhiiiitttt!
TonyChu
TonyChu - 9/11/2013, 12:17 PM
Josh you are a brave son of a bitch. I may disagree with you on this article but damn.
Simonsonrules
Simonsonrules - 9/11/2013, 12:20 PM
"Relaunch after relaunch, an erratic publishing schedule which sees some titles come out two or three times a month and extremely inconsistent quality in artwork are now commonplace as Marvel also continues to alienate many of their best creators."

The same could be said of Marvel at numerous points in the company's history. This is an industry founded upon gimmick marketing.
sanyaya
sanyaya - 9/11/2013, 12:21 PM
DAMN JOSH IS GOING FOR THE 500 DOLLARS DEAL
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 9/11/2013, 12:21 PM
I couldn't agree more. I have ALWAYS preferred DC to Marvel, but I love Marvel to.
Ocelot
Ocelot - 9/11/2013, 12:22 PM
Dat flame war bait.



Thread is about to erupt.
McNyagano
McNyagano - 9/11/2013, 12:23 PM

MyNameIsGroot
MyNameIsGroot - 9/11/2013, 12:23 PM
i have to say I Agree with you. Dc comics has better storyline great art work,and has one of the best Anime Movies. Marvel only has Great Live Action Movies.

oh yeah DC Comics Live Action movies are okay. Batman are bad ass, Classic Superman and MAN OF STEEL movies are really good but Marvel still has the better Films
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 9/11/2013, 12:24 PM
I'm starting to worry a lot about Josh's latest articles.
HULK2099
HULK2099 - 9/11/2013, 12:24 PM
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CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 9/11/2013, 12:25 PM
I feel he's just writing these articles solely to bash people and promote arguments.
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 9/11/2013, 12:26 PM
Which is really making me lose respect for what this site is all about.
Alex909
Alex909 - 9/11/2013, 12:28 PM
"Marvel also continues to alienate many of their best creators."

I don't think you can use this against Marvel when you don't mention the shit DC have pulled with their creative teams.
MyNameIsGroot
MyNameIsGroot - 9/11/2013, 12:28 PM
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 9/11/2013, 12:28 PM
love both companies for different reasons comic wise favorite hero is batman, second is tony
best comic goin right now is AARON'S THOR
interesting article
if u actually read comics u should respect both , u can have a preference but liking one more than the other makes nosense........
McNyagano
McNyagano - 9/11/2013, 12:28 PM

TheWolverine08
TheWolverine08 - 9/11/2013, 12:28 PM
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
MyNameIsGroot
MyNameIsGroot - 9/11/2013, 12:28 PM
pintoman
pintoman - 9/11/2013, 12:29 PM
Yea. Fishing for a flame war.
TheWolverine08
TheWolverine08 - 9/11/2013, 12:30 PM
This is a new low for Wilding.
SuperSpeedster
SuperSpeedster - 9/11/2013, 12:30 PM
FLAME WAR INCOMING!!
McNyagano
McNyagano - 9/11/2013, 12:30 PM


MyNameIsGroot
MyNameIsGroot - 9/11/2013, 12:30 PM
Jamesx51
Jamesx51 - 9/11/2013, 12:30 PM
Marvels way better in my eyes - characters are epic and you can relate. I mean where on this earth is Gotham City or Metroplis? DC characters are pretty lame all with Big logos on there chest - just seems dated

Marvel all the way :D
MyNameIsGroot
MyNameIsGroot - 9/11/2013, 12:31 PM
McNyagano
McNyagano - 9/11/2013, 12:31 PM


MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2013, 12:31 PM
I'm a bit too far behind on the recent stories to comment, but I've always enjoyed both. But then you'd read a lot more titles than I would. I tend to stick at X-men titles, maybe the odd Avengers and the crossovers etc with Marvel..DC is Justice League, Batman, the supernatural characters...that's about it. At the end of the day it's all about who's writing a character for me. Yeah art is important but it';s secondary. I'll follow a writer more than anything else, even if he jumped from brand to brand.
Shua
Shua - 9/11/2013, 12:32 PM
I read both DC and Marvel and thoroughly enjoy both, but the New 52 has not been a resounding success. There are 5-10 titles that I think maintain great storytelling and art, but I see the same for Marvel. Hickman's run on Avengers culminating in Infinity has been a joy to read. Thor God of Thunder has had beautiful art and a great story, I've enjoyed All New X-Men and I absolutely love X-Men Legacy, making Legion one of my new favorite characters was not an easy task. All I'm saying is the hatred against Marvel or DC is unnecessary.
Ocelot
Ocelot - 9/11/2013, 12:33 PM
"The fact that books like Animal Man, Aquaman and Swamp-Thing are all better than the majority of titles featuring big name heroes really does say it all."



Damn, Josh isn't holding back.

"The success of the Marvel Cinematic Universe has made Marvel a more globally recognised brand than ever, so it’s understandable that sales are now more important to them than ever (hence the endless new #1’s and headline grabbing gimmicks in place of quality storytelling"

This however is true.
McNyagano
McNyagano - 9/11/2013, 12:33 PM
@Jamesx51

Spiderman has a big logo on his chest though.
TheWolverine08
TheWolverine08 - 9/11/2013, 12:34 PM
The New 52 has been somewhat lacking IMO.
ParisSun
ParisSun - 9/11/2013, 12:34 PM
I will see that DC overall has been putting out better comics. MCU is still killing WB/DC though, just had to throw that in.

But seriously, when I do buy comics, it's based on the actual comic and not the company. I could care less about it being DC or Marvel, just give me a good story. I never collected comics based on the company. I have stuff from Image, DC, Vertigo (I know), Darkhorse, Marvel, etc.

Overall, I think the whole comic book industry has become gimmicky with all of these events and reboots. I used to love when I could buy one book and get my Justice League, Xmen or Avenger fix. Now, it just feels like a carny show more than artically driven.

Joss is likely creating flame bait for hits, but there is a serious issue to be discussed regarding the state of comics in general.
baldric33
baldric33 - 9/11/2013, 12:34 PM
Another clicks for cash article by Josh Wilding. I'm shocked.
MyNameIsGroot
MyNameIsGroot - 9/11/2013, 12:34 PM




ekrolo2
ekrolo2 - 9/11/2013, 12:35 PM
@Jamesx51

I kind of hate how they put their cities in the real world, it doesn't make them more relate able it just feels like they do it for the sake of saying "Were in the real world bitchez!" which they have in fact used during the Quesada era.

As for all your other points I'm fine with more classic and less classic superhero type universes existing, though Marvel does piss me off by trying to keep everything cannon and move at the same pace as the real world which pretty much throws that whole idea down the toilet.
travismeidell
travismeidell - 9/11/2013, 12:35 PM
An interesting read. I find myself in the exact opposite position. A long time DC reader, I have been turned off from the company almost completely since the New 52 relaunch. Perhaps there is something with seeing your favorite characters changed but I can't stand the direction most of DC Comics are going.

Classic characters are being rebooted as dark, gritty and violent with long time origins being changed in pretty significant ways. Story lines are constantly interrupted by large crossovers like Villains month which seems to me to be mostly rehashes or origins again.

For me Marvel has a better grasp on having fun in comics. Titles like Daredevil, Hawkeye and All-New X-Men are bringing the fun, while DC is so focused on turning everyone into Batman... but I will admit that Aquaman, Wonder Woman and few others still have that fun vibe going.

Finally, while I feel like there have been some shifts in teams at Marvel the bigger creative problem seems to be at DC where their creators are leaving with such heat and negativity towards the company. Editors being overly involved seems to be a very common topic connected with DC.

Don't get me wrong, I see some excellent points in your article. Spider-Man is one of Marvel's weaker titles and Age of Ultron didn't blow anyone away but remember there was a lot of positive buzz around the first issue of Age of Ultron... just like there is around the first issue of Forever Evil. It's hard to say anything until the story is done.

But overall to each their own. I read zero Marvel two years ago and now I read almost only Marvel with little DC. Everyone has difference of opinion on this topic and there is no right or wrong answer. I enjoyed your article and found you're completely opposite perspective very interesting but for me personally, I think Marvel is on fire while DC is just nothing but ashes.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 9/11/2013, 12:35 PM
P.S

josh has really been making some statements in these articles lately .................. stir the pot sir ................. stir the pot
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