Gavin Hood Talks Wolverine Deleted Scenes

Like him or not X-Men Origins: Wolverine director Gavin Hood explains himself, a little.

In the Blu-Ray special edition of X-Men Origins: Wolverine there is a special scene involving Sabretooth and Stryker. The two are discussing Wolverine decision to have his memory totally wiped clean.

This from MTV News:

"Wolverine's brother, played by Liev Schrieber, says to Stryker, ‘Will he remember me?’ and there’s a tremendous moment of vulnerability where Stryker looks at him as if he’s crazy and says, ‘No, of course not,’" Hood told MTV News. "Then Victor Creed says, 'Then let him go,' which is beautiful."

Gavin goes on to further explain why he cut the scene?:

"The reason we opted not to go with that scene quite frankly," Hood explained, "is in test screenings there were people who felt they couldn’t get past the idea of Wolverine allowing Stryker—after everything that Stryker has done—to do this to him."

I wonder how the fan reaction was with what Gavin did to Deadpool? Could they not get past that either? I bet not. News broke yesterday of Gavin Hood not being attached to the Wolvie sequel. I say yay to that. Keep this guy out of there and we might get a decent Mutant movie from Fox. Then again we might not. It was also reported that Laura Donner Schuler is going to reboot Deadpool. If that's not the studio saying that they screwed the pooch with X-Men Origins: Wolverine, then I don't know what they would say. I bet it would probably go something like this: "We are going to take all are ideas that we came up with by ourselves (Fox) and throw them out the window and act like they never happened, that way for the sequel we will have a fresh start and will act like the events in X-Men Origins: Wolverine never took place." Yeah, it would probably be something like that if it were a official statement.

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69 Comments

	Wolverine was such a disappointment! I am looking forward to them getting it right next time. How do you post a video link here guys? Xfactorz - 9/15/2009, 2:47 PM
	I take it the deleted scences are the best bits of BORIGINS then lol?! ; D LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 2:48 PM
	Xfactorz @ You have to googles going an copy and paste it say from You Tube to here in the comments box! LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 2:50 PM
	Lee@ What do you mean by "googles going"? I was hoping to share this trailer but can't seem to get it to work as a link. If anybody can help me share this as a link please do so. I know it is off topic but I wasn't sure of where to try to post it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4pEKQ_zUBo Xfactorz - 9/15/2009, 2:57 PM
	ZACK SNYDER FOR WOLVERINE2!!! Ozymandias - 9/15/2009, 2:59 PM
	I really dont see why Gavin Hood is constantly being ripped on! The movie was actually very well directed IMO and though he definetly can be partly blamed for the Deadpool fiasco, you have to remember that he didnt write the damned script!!! I actually quite enjoyed Wolverine - it had a fair few faults (Deadpool of course as well as a few other things like the adamantium bullet) but overall it was quite enjoyable and had some really good parts! I for one will definitely be buying the blu-ray! :) joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 3:01 PM
	i told everybody it was ganna suck I new that from the title. The x-men should of never been in it and it should of taken place in the present day. But everyone was so gung Ho about gambit then it became all about dead pool. The next movie i hope it takes place in the present day, we see him in some kind of a costume and its called wolverine II thats it! no x-men no origans just "Wolverine"!!! Logan-X - 9/15/2009, 3:05 PM
	@josh...Me too! Those scenes shouldn't be extra though, they should be integrated into the movie as a directors cut. As far as the test audiences go? HAHA, well, something tells me if Hood had screened the "magic bullet" ending for them instead, they would have rioted! This is why i say a director should always go with his gut, for better or worse. That scene sounds much better and closer to what happens in the comics, but because some people in the test screening whine about it he changes it..to something worse! Rorschach01 - 9/15/2009, 3:06 PM
	ROR: thats actually a really good idea about a Directors Cut - like with Daredevil, a DC could really improve some of the bad points of the movie! (oh, and Ive replied to you over on my FF fan cast RE: Rupert Everett!) LEE: have you actually seen Wolverine!? Ever since I found out that you've never read The Ultimates (if you had, you would have known there was an Ultimate Captain Britain) but go on about it all the time calling it crap, I find it kinda hard to take you opinions seriously! :( joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 3:11 PM
	just bought XMEN ORIGINS WOLVERINE on DVD today,that film was awesome! why does everyone hate it? Ozymandias - 9/15/2009, 3:13 PM
	Ror- I wonder if there were even any true wolverine fans that screened it. joshw24- The ultimate line gets a lot of crap but I thought that Ultimate Spidey, X-Men, and the Ultimates were solid books. I did not really care for the Ultimate FF or Ultimatium though. Now that Miller is back with the Ultimate Avengers I think things will pick up again. Ozy- While I did not hate I will admit it had its flaws. I still enjoyed it though. ironknight27 - 9/15/2009, 3:16 PM
	meh, as much as I love wolverine I'm not that interested in seeing a second attempt, the first one was god awful and I'm not sure fox has the brains to get it right in the second one. ~sniffles~I just don't want to be hurt again... yeah, I say nay on wolverine two or a magneto movie. thwhtGuardian - 9/15/2009, 3:18 PM
	JOSH @ Why don't you BEND OVER just a bit more lol! The film is TOTAL CRAP and sorry both FF movies are much better quality than this piece of sh!Te!! ; D And i only bought the 1st series of ULTIMATES, that was enough lol. LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 3:23 PM
	ironknight27: I also enjoyed Ultimate Spider-Man and X-Men (I wasnt too keen on Ultimate FF though) but fell behind once I started buying a lot of other titles. They had some really great story arcs and The Ultimates 1 & 2 were absolutely brilliant (i just wish i had the actual issues rather than the graphic novels!) Loeb's Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum were utter crap but now Miller's back on Ultimate Avengers, things are really picking up! The whole Red Skull storyline is a really great new take on the character! :) joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 3:23 PM
	Wolverine wasn't great and now other movies will just pretend it didn't happen... Why don't these people get test groups and explain the stories. Then you get some kind of feedback. Both are needed. Comic and average movie goers. It's like Highlander... The claimed that the second movie never happened. Unreal! animeex - 9/15/2009, 3:25 PM
	LEE: right, the FF movies were great! What did you like most? Jessica Alba's dreadful acting, the FF and Doom's screwed up origins, or cloud Galactus!?! And I really dont get how you couldnt like The Ultimates, lol!! joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 3:27 PM
	Xfactor @ You Tube wont let you move that NINJA SCROLLS trailer here, soz dude, just been there! JOSH @ I cant beieve you hate all 3 x-movies but like BORIGINS WTF/???? You seriously telling me you rate WOLVERINE over X-MEN & X2?? Lmao! ; D LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 3:29 PM
	Wolverine was 5 out of 10. Jackman: Always good. Liev: Awesome Sabretooth. My problems come from too many characters used in shotgun style plot that was all over the place. Action: Decent. Deadpool: an utter bastardization, though I like Reynolds playing him. The movie gave you a lot of gold nuggets that turned out to be spray painted lead when you scratched the surface. nerosday - 9/15/2009, 3:30 PM
	The cloud was sh!T lol, but we was told you don't see GALACTUS, thats for the SILVER SURFER movie! I like the REAL AVENGERS comics dude, not crappy copies! ; ) NERO @ Problem is, BORIGINS should've been a 8 or 9 out of 10, they [frick]ed it right up lol, and they didn't need to do half the [frick]ing things they did, FOX tut tut lol. LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 3:34 PM
	X2 was the best of the series so far, X3 and wolvie are about tied for dead last, one tipping out the other depending on my mood. Wolverine had potential, but it has Fox meddling written all over it. nerosday - 9/15/2009, 3:34 PM
	They should just give them back to marvel. Let them do what they do. Marvel studios have made the best marvel movies to date. Yes i will the first punisher was pretty good and the Blade serious. the third one well it was ok. think about: FF 1 & 2 REBOOT Daredevil REBOOT X-Men 1,2, & 3 REBOOT HULK REBOOT Spiderman prolly would have been if they didn't have the contract. i have all of the movies that have been done. I prolly have watch Ironman the most. Spider-man 3 maybe 2. And Spiderman is my fav marvel character. For my Hawkeye script, when its done, its going straight to Marvel! ZOtis4 - 9/15/2009, 3:34 PM
	Lee@ It was for Ninja Assassin, but thanks for trying. Weird though because I just copied the link on another forum and it worked just fine. Xfactorz - 9/15/2009, 3:36 PM
	There needs to be a limit placed on how any X characters can be used in one movie. That would help for one. Gambit; as much as I've wanted to see him in film was wasted in Wolverine. I mean the story takes place 15 years before X1, this means Gambit will be near middle aged in any inclusion in an X film set in the present. They wasted the character. Why? nerosday - 9/15/2009, 3:39 PM
	i haven`t seen this movie yet (i dont know why), but im going to go rent it tonight. I dont know, iv heard people say from it being a totally awful film to an amazing film, so, i`ll have to wait and see woo hoo! jallanr - 9/15/2009, 3:40 PM
	sigh...LEE: The WHOLE point of The Ultimates was to give a brand new, more realistic take on The Avengers!!! They're not "copies", they're all new character for [frick]s sake, lol! The Ultimates 1 & 2 are both amazing IMO and a fascinating take on what it would be like if superheroes were here in our worls! If you just forgot about the regular characters and accepted The Ultimates as a whole different entity...well, the point is you're missing out on something amazing! As for X1 and X2, I hated them both as they're nothing like what I wanted the X-Men movies to be and were too stuffed full of Singers disguised feelings about homohobia. I think Wolverine was better then the X-Men films because despite some minor mistakes like Deadpool the film actually felt like what a Wolverine movie should be like and what Wolverine is like in the comic books! joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 3:47 PM
	WATCHMEN ORIGINS:OZYMANDIAS Ozymandias - 9/15/2009, 3:50 PM
	Xfactorz @ No probs, yeah sometimes they just don't let you, copyright bollox lol. OMG JOSH @ How can you say X2 or even X1 is better than CRAPPY BORIGINS?? Are you high lol??? Seriously your joking right? Plz tell me you joking?? OMFG!!! P.S. JOSH @ No way in HELL is BORIGINS better than X-MEN and X2!!! WTF? JOSH @ You don't even read great VERTIGO comics, then you know what AMAZING is, ive read a few ULTIMATE SPIDEYS an stuff, the odd few an they're sh!te lol, i like the real MARVEL Universe, there's a reason why they are killing off everyone in the ULTIMARE-VERSE lol! It is a ULTIMARE NIGHTMARE! ; D LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 3:58 PM
	Lee@ I don't know you but you sound like you are talking out of your arse when it comes to the ultimates. The first two series are easily two of the best books ever. Have you read them??? krypton38 - 9/15/2009, 4:05 PM
	Whille I agree with you josh about the ultimates, they are amazing, even the third wasn't to bad just not as amazing the the first two. But in regards to wolverine I have to disagree. While the first two xmen movies were far from perfect they both had meaningful stories to tell, wolverine felt like a piece of bad fanfiction it was all about trying to fit in as many heroes as you possibly could just for the sake of bringing heroes to the screen. It had no rhyme or reason to it, it just jumped from one scene to the next. The only good part of the whole movie, the only part with any genuine emotion was when logan got the coat and bike from the two old farmers. There was a connection there, the was something approaching an interesting plot point...and then there was an explosion. thwhtGuardian - 9/15/2009, 4:05 PM
	leonard777,calm down. Ozymandias - 9/15/2009, 4:06 PM
	LEE: i think that krypton38 is right - you are talking out of your ass! Im talking about The Ultimates 1 and 2 not USM! Cant you understand that The Ultimates are something entirely different!?! You saying that you prefer the "real" characters is just like supermike when he used to say he prefered the "real" characters in the comic books rather than the movies! THEY ARE TWO SEPERATE THINGS!!! The only reason a whole pile of characters were killed off is because Jeph Loeb is one of the worst comic book writers out there!! thwhtknight: maybe, when i re-watch Wolverine on blu-ray, ill feel differently, lol!?! I almostenjoyed Spider-Man 3the first time i saw until until i watched it a second time and realised how awful it was! i think i get caught up in the excitement the first time round! :D joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 4:26 PM
	@ LEE Ultimates 1 and 2 really did rock, man. You should give them a shot sometime. nerosday - 9/15/2009, 4:26 PM
	Yeah Ultimates 1 & 2 were good. Millar rocked it on those books. ironknight27 - 9/15/2009, 4:34 PM
	nerosday & ironknight27: yeah, i really wish that Miller would do a Captain Britain solo series after reading Ultimates 2 - the part where Captain britain tears his shirt open Superman style revealing the Union Jack costume beneath gave me goosebumps, lol! have either of you been reading Millars, 'Old Man Logan'? joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 4:36 PM
	Ultimate Cap and Ultimate Thor are better than the regular Marvel ones..blasphemy right? Still a fact. I appreciate that they just stood on the shoulders of the original characters but they also fixed some huge problems i always had with them. Namely cap being a self righteous prick at times(Ultimate Cap is just a hard bastard) and Thor bring a Shakespeare quoting poser. Its much more realistic that if he were to come to earth and interact with other heroes that he would not reveal much about himself and pass himself off as a bit of a lunatic..it just adds a bit of depth. And you will notice the significant changes for the better in both of the original versions of these characters since the Ultimates! Civil War Cap was the best I have ever seen..granted you had a writer like Millar on that too..but other writers are starting to follow suit. Rorschach01 - 9/15/2009, 4:48 PM
	Rorschach01: I only got round to reading Ultimates 2 a month or so ago but after reading that I have to agree with you about Thor - the Ultimate version is a lot more interesting and though i would necessarily want the whole storyline about Thor possibly being a lunatic in The Avengers, I think it would be great if that was factored into the movie somehow - after all, (and just as Millar did in The Ultimates) is a genius like Tony Stark really going to believe that this guy is a Norse God!? As for Cap, I once again agree - his portrayal in The Ultimates is also much more realistic and (though again, not 100%) that is the version I would most like to see in 'The First Avenger' - I never actually liked the regular Cap until Ed Brubaker's run and Civil War because he always came across as being a complete asshole - i remember seeing him in various comic books including The Avengers and in all of them he was written as...well, a self righteous prick, lol!! As Ive said before my favourite scene from The Ultimates has to be: Captain America: C'mere, let me get a closer look at that big gash on your cheek... Bruce Banner: But I haven't got a gash on my cheek. (Cap boots Banner across the face) Captain America: You do now, son. Dig out a straightjacket in size thirty-four, General. We're bringing him in. THAT is why i think Ultimate Captain America is the best version! Miller wrote him in a way that is completely unique and believable for a super soldier from WWII! Just like JMS dropping the Shakespearean dialogue for Thro, I for one am glad to see Ultimate Cap being incorporated into the regular Cap! :) joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 5:05 PM
	Man, thats a freaking editorial almost, lol! :D joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 5:06 PM
	I enjoyed Wolverine. It was fun and entertaining. But it was a bad movie, sort of a guilty pleasure. They got half of Deadpool right. The first part with Reynolds as Wade was perfect. However, we all know what happened in the second part. I'd give Wolverine a 6/10, and place it in 3rd in the X-franchise, after X2(first) and X-Men (second), but before X3. InTylerWeTrust82 - 9/15/2009, 5:17 PM
	joshw24: Cap was def better, not so sure if I prefer the Ultimate Thor version over the classic but I def think they screwed up big time with Iron Mans Suit....its shit krypton38 - 9/15/2009, 5:44 PM
	By the way where has LEEE777 gone? Maybe to actually read the books before he shits out those cock jock comments. Anyway I think it was FOX who ruined Wolverine, not so much Hood. He wanted a darker more adult film and FOX interfered by calling for scenes to be re shot. Studio interference can kill any film and who knows how many doctors worked on that script to suit FOX. krypton38 - 9/15/2009, 6:14 PM
	The fact is JOSH no way in HELL is BORIGINS near as good as X2 an 1!!! Seriously dude BORIGINS was SH!TE! ; D KRYPTO @ Nothing against ULTIMATES just dont like 'em popping in MARVEL movies! Yeah vol'1 of ULTIMATES was okay, i read it an own the comics! Other Ultimate comics ive read were sh!t, maybe i picked some bad titles but still the ULTIMATE Universe doesn't hold a candle to the original MARVEL UNIVERSE, never will! But i agree on FOX, damn FOX! LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 6:24 PM
	joshw24- Not for nothing, but the original intent for the X-Men comic was to show outcast as in people who were picked on for being different, gays, people of color, etc. What did Singer do so wrong? X-2 is right up there with Dark Knight and Watchmen as the three best comic films ever. What the hell were you expecting to see in an X-Men film? Did you want it to be a Michael Bay type movie? your view on X-Men is really distorted, maybe you should actually read the comics instead of looking at the pictures. ASSASSIN666 - 9/15/2009, 6:38 PM
	I would watch a Team X movie, that first part of the Wolverine was amazing but from there it goes downhill... ------ See Wolverine and the gang here with 254+ other characters. click here for the Updated wallpaper access - 9/15/2009, 6:39 PM
	Whats that? A scene where they discuss wiping Wolverine's memory. It probably went something like: Stryker: Well, damn we are going to have to wipe Wolverine's mind after his sudden but inevitable betrayal. Sabretooth: Well how are we going to do that. Are you going to give me wings and adamantium fangs to [frick] up continuity even more? Stryker: Well I like that idea but no, we are going to shoot Wolverine with adamantium bullets Sabretooth: WTF? Your joking right? You have been smoking way too much of the wacky tobaccy! Stryker: Oh really? Well if you dont like that idea, how about we wipe your mind and turn you into a wrestler? That sound good, kitty kat! Sabretooth: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (seconds later shot by magic adamantium bullets) dancingmonkey08 - 9/15/2009, 6:49 PM
	ASSASSINS @ Your damn right man!!! ; ) How can anyone say BORIGINS was better than X2???? Lost for words lol. LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 6:51 PM
	Dancing @ Lol! ; D LEEE777 - 9/15/2009, 6:54 PM
	X-Men 1 and 2 rocked idk how anyone can say they sucked. CaptainAmerica - 9/15/2009, 7:32 PM
	ASSASSIN666: And maybe you should learn to read period. that was one of the reasons i didnt enjot the X-Men films - ike with Superman Returns, Singer puts too much of his opinion into the movies he does. the fact is, IMO, the movies were not what i wanted to see! Anti-mutant(ism?!) is just a part of what the X-Men are about, Singers films made that ONLY what they were about! I would have much preffered to see the X-Men vs. Magneto rather than a lame fight scene with Storm electrocuting Toad or Wolverine vs. Wolverine whilst Magneto turns Senator Kelly into jelly! Ever see that in the comics? wouldnt you have preffered to see the X-Men fighting Sentinels rather than that pathetuc love story between Rouge and Iceman!? That my opinion, end of. And i actually read almost ever X-related title that comes out each month so i know plenty about the X-Men thanks. joshw24 - 9/15/2009, 7:43 PM
	Just saw wolverine, and i have to say, i enjoyed it. Sure, it had its faults, but I still liked it. Now im a HUGE!!! Deadpool fan, and I have to say...I don`t think there was anything wrong with what they did to him. Sure, if it was me writing the script, i wouldn`t have done it, but it wasnt really that far of a stretch from the comics in a way. And it is all fixable, too!!! Just look at the hidden scene after the credits with him. (luved that scene!) woo hoo! jallanr - 9/15/2009, 8:28 PM
	joshw24- Ok I get it, you're a huge Michael Bay fan. So in other words what you're saying is fk the story and let's just come out swinging. You know that's what video games are for, The sentinel storyline had to be set up to be done properly in a movie, which should have been done in X-3. Singer who never was a comic fan growing up did a lot more justice for X-Men then that abortion that lived Brett Ratner did. Singer aimed for a reality point of view much like Nolan, and Favreau did in their respective films. Reality, not multicolored spandex and nonsense money shots without a story behind them. ASSASSIN666** - 9/15/2009, 8:29 PM
	Josh has a valid point. I said last week the biggest flaw in the X franchise was that it really did focus too damn much on the mutants vs. humans aspect. It began to feel like the use and reuse of Lex in Superman. X1 was good X2 drove it home even better, but continuing that same line into X3 stagnated the story. The Registration act and the attempted mutant extermination by a radical was enough. The cure story line in X3 felt like it was beating a dead horse really. If X-Men continue it needs to step back from the persecution aspect and lean towards the infighting in the mutants own sphere, Magneto, though a great character did NOT need to be in all three movies. It’s time for Sinister or Apocalypse. Singer is a great director and he is an outspoken voice in the gay community and made a very poignant allegory with X-Men, but we need fresh ideas to continue. Singer has made his statement and it was good, but there is more that can be done with the franchise then hammering us with the same allegory over and over. nerosday - 9/15/2009, 9:04 PM
	I think the greatest sin in X3 next to the abortion of the Phoenix Saga was that I was comfortable with the villain. I knew Magneto by that point. McKellen had fleshed that character out so much you knew what his actions and reactions were going to be before he even carried them out. The Villain you know is the villain that bores, they should have brought out a fresh face as the enemy on the third outing… Yes I would say that even if Singer HAD directed it. nerosday - 9/15/2009, 9:12 PM
	Just for the record, Singer had no input on the story or the direction of X-3. X-3 should have been the great turning point to introduce new mutants that would matter and a villain that would test the collective X-Men. The only new mutant that was given that was beast, Ratner mother fked Angel practically right out of the movie, Iceman was made in to a Justin Timberlake stand in. X-3 the great white loss of hope, good luck Fox you're gonna need it and then some with a sequel ASSASSIN666** - 9/15/2009, 9:20 PM
	There can still be good story, direction, and writing, but it does need a fresh injection of adrenaline in the old IV port, you know? In its 47 year history X focused on many themes not just persecution; it needs to rediscover those themes as the tale continues. Wolverine's biggest problem as a film was that it had no real theme behind it aside for the want of continuous action and it greatly suffered for that in its meandering plot. nerosday - 9/15/2009, 9:20 PM
	assassin666- I enjoyed both X films but josh has a point. Yes when Stan Lee created the X-Men it was to mirror the persecutions of the times but since then it has grown to much more. Maybe if you'd read some of the more recent issues of the X-Men titles you'd know this. What singer did with the first two movies was say okay I want to make this more realistic and modern so lets get rid of the bright colored spandex costumes and put them in tight leather outfits. And after that lets focus on the whole antimutant sentament and the 'war' between Magneto and Xavier. He chose to focus more on relationships- Wolverine/Rogue/Bobby; Xavier/Magneto; Jean/Wolverine/Scott. There was no action in them, at least not what a comic fan of the X-Men would expect. Everyone blames Ratner for the disappointment that was the third movie but he was just following what Singer set up for him. The only logical place for the third movie to go was a final confrontation between Xavier's X-Men and Magneto's Brotherhood, which is what we got. Sentinels do not need an entire movie to set them up. They could've been established in just a few scenes easily. Heck I could even type an example of how it could go for you right now- White House, Oval office. The president is sitting behind his desk reading over a file. A man is sitting across from him patiently waiting for him to finish. The president puts takes his glasses off and sets them ontop of the file "Mr. Trask after reading over your proposal for the Sentinel program I must say I have my doubts." "Mr. President I can quaruntee that this program will work. My Sentinels can round up the mutants and relocate them to where ever you choose, I hear Genosha welcomes thier kind." "But can you promise me that the public won't be harmed if the mutants decide to fight back against your Sentinels?" "Yes. My Sentinels are designed to target only mutants and protect non mutants. Mr. President I feel this is the best solution to the mutant problem." "Okay then Mr. Trask you have my approval." The president rises from his chair and reaches across the desk to shake Trask's hand. Trask pulls out his phone as he leaves the Oval office calling his associate. "Yes that's right. We have the president's approval, we can begin mass production of the Sentinels now." On the other end of the phone Trask's assossiate smiles standing on a platform in a factory. Behind him we see a giant robotic head being put onto a body. There you go, plain and simple. No more than a couple scenes and we've got Sentinels. comicguy - 9/15/2009, 9:32 PM
	you know the thing that sucks about posting comments on here? I'll read through them and find one, just one that sticks out to me as somethign I want to reply to and by the time I finish typing up the reply the original post is already four or five posts above. Anyway, back to topic- The deleted scene described above would've been better than the adamantium bullet and probably made the movie better than what it was. Of course to make it perfect they'd have to drop the Sabertooth being Wolverine's brother, Emma Frost being Silver Fox's sister, Deadpool (not the character just the way they did him), Gambit (not even necessary), Cyclops and all those other kids being imprisioned by Weapon X, and fix some of the cgi. comicguy - 9/15/2009, 9:45 PM
	Don't worry about where your post lands, I speak for a lot of us here, we read them. My point was there could have been other things in X-3 besides Magneto, and Jean. Trask should have been at least mentioned in X-2 ASSASSIN666 - 9/15/2009, 10:29 PM
	POLL TIME!!!! POLL TIME!!!!---WHO SHOULD DIRECT WOLVERINE JAPAN?-HANDS DOWN, IF YOU WANT A DIRECTOR THAT IMMERSES HIMSELF INTO DETAIL AND HONORS THE SOURCE MATERIAL...ITS ZACK SNYDER.. GUNSMITH - 9/15/2009, 11:52 PM
	yeah there could have been but not the way they were set up by singer, there was really no where else for them to go that would have made since. At the very least they could've left out Jean becoming Phoenix, saved that for another movie. It would've been hard for them to bring in someone like Sinister or Apocalypse. The guy I want directing the next X-Men or Wolverine movie is, damn that's a tough one. Hell I don't care who it is as long as they don't mess with them any more than they already have. comicguy - 9/16/2009, 12:05 AM
	hmm. One thing for sure, Wolverine used to be my favorite super hero; Hollywood has changed my whole perspective. And when the hell are they going to take that stupid ass trailer off the home page? fuuuuck stephenismyname - 9/16/2009, 12:13 AM
	Deleted scenes, huh? They should've deleted this whole movie! Gavin Hood should wear a "hood" over his entire face to hide his shame! I would love to see Snyder direct an (R) rated Logan in Japan! Samurai swords and slicing claws! Let the blood run like a river! Zack would make a work of art 'cause he is a true artist! Hugh Jackman should lose his job as Wolverine for hamming it up so much in this travesty of a movie! He's a traitor to the X-men legacy! DDD - 9/16/2009, 12:34 AM
	Bratt Rat-turd and Gavin "Put-a HOOD-over-his face" have ruined the X-men for me! Until they bring in the REAL X-men and Wolverine again I ain't wasting another red cent on this destroyed franchise!!! DDD - 9/16/2009, 12:39 AM
	Im glad that a couple of you (nerosday & comicguy) can see the point I was making! The Anti-Mutant stuff is an important part of the X-Men but its not the only part. I just feel that it was completely over done in both X-1 and X-2 and that is down to Singer who seems to use his movies (as he did with Superman Returns) to force his own point across which really bothers me! The fact that he is gay and is making a veiled point about homophobia doesnt bother me - its just the fact that he forced this into the X-films and sacrificed the proper feel of the X-Men to do so (but i guess thats what you get when you have a director who doesnt care about the source material, just like Ratner clearly didnt care when making X-3) ASSASSIN666: Its not just that which i had a problem with in the first two X-films - i also didnt like how Sabertooth was portrayed, the team of X-Men (consisting of only Cyclops, Storm and Jean - not even remotely like any classic or modern X-Men team), the fact that half the time Wolverine was written as being an asshole who just wanted to steal Scott's girlfriend, the fact that no new X-Men were introduced in X-2 (apart from Nightcrawler) so the team stayd exactly the same as the first film, the completely wrong portrayal of Iceman and Rigue (nothing remotely like their comic book counterparts) and I really could go on to lit 100 more things i didnt like! As for Michael Bay, im not a "huge fan" as you put it (though i fail to see what relevance that would have anyway) and you should think about picking up Joss Whedons, Astonishing X-Men to see how anti-mutant hysteria can be handled in a subtle way whilst also showing the X-Men as a coherent team with some great action! joshw24 - 9/16/2009, 2:28 AM
	I'm not saying you don't have some well made points, but the reality is how many hollywood directors are comic fans? The number has to be small, problem is once Spiderman was made and did so well hollywood jumped on them like a dog in heat. A lot of the blame can be placed on Marvel and D.C themselves. They should have creative control on their characters, and have a say on cast, script, director, and source material. You don't come on to a comic movie and want to change characters that have been loved for decades, that's where Marvel and D.C need to step in and say no, do it this way. The best example would be when some moron contracted Nick Cage to play Superman. I don't care how much Cage loved and wanted to play him, bad idea that ended up costing the studio millions because they had to pay him despite not making the movie. Hugh Jackman who I love for Logan is too tall for the role, Iceman was supposed to be a brash arrogant guy who is the most timid of the X-Men in the films. Marvel and D.C need to regain some control that way a movie is done right the first time, and won't have to be rebooted a couple of years later. I still stand for X-2 being near the top of the food chain of comic movies, but I don't know how Singer would have made X-3. When a great movie is made, it's got to be nothing but pressure to better the sequel. Singer did that with X-2, but X-3? I would have had doubts and concerns myself, we'll never know. ASSASSIN666 - 9/16/2009, 7:01 AM
	"The reason we opted not to go with that scene quite frankly," Hood explained, "is in test screenings there were people who felt they couldn’t get past the idea of Wolverine allowing Stryker—after everything that Stryker has done—to do this to him." this explanation doesn't explain why wolvie let this happen. this scene doesn' seem like it was important in any way. oh well, the adamantium bullet was super lame anyway. CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 7:33 AM
	Against my better judgement, I just bought the DVD. Didnt really care for the movie but I figured the bonus features would at least be pretty damn decent to see....U know, history of Wolverrine and such type stuff.....well I am pretty damn suprised to find that the bonus features are even less entertaining than the ones from the Green Lantern dvd. A pretty boring convo with Stan Lee and Len Wein, even dryer behind the scenes of the making of the movie....Really?! Im damn near tempted to take the movie back. xmentheeight - 9/16/2009, 9:14 AM
	Josh and Nero- I agree with everything you guys just said up there. Seriously. Haha Leee your confusing your opinion with cold-hard fact ;) Seriously man, people have different opinions. If someone else likes Wolverine over the X-Men franchise, then thats their opinion. It doesnt make them wrong, thats just how they think. I'll read the Ulitmates over normal marvel comics anyday and it doesnt make me wrong. The classics are classics, but I just prefer characters that dont feel outdated. Shadowelfz - 9/16/2009, 9:25 AM
	Oh and I found Wolverine quite entertaining, but no doubt there is plenty to be pissy about. Still, I think if you take out all the forced cameos (Deadpool, young storm, Professor X, Blob, and especially Gambit) and left in the core Wolverine and Sabertooth story, it would have been a hell of a lot better. Shadowelfz - 9/16/2009, 9:31 AM
	comicguy 9/16/2009 12:05 AM- I think the Phoenix ending of X2 was perfect and the Jean/Phoenix story in X3 could actually work to the advantage to the next writer and director who actually want to make a real X-Men movie. To do so would involve making a new trilogy (AoA) which would satisfy your thirst for a Sinister/En Sabah Nur story line. This story would start off at the end of X2 and run concurrently with X3. Sinister recovers Jean and abducts Cyclops (purposely leaves glasses behind to make everyone think he's dead), clones Jean and places Madelyne Pryor (unstable with fragments of the Phoenix) back into Alkali Lake which would fall into place with Storm and Wolverine investigating Cyclops disappearance. This gives him the advantage of trying to force about the creation of Cable without interference. Throw in some action, plot, the rescue of Jean and Scott. Then end the movie with Jean & Scott's wedding with an alternate ending at end credits of Jean discovering that she's pregnant. 2nd and 3rd movies would involve Apocalypse and his past (brief), Sinister's past, Gambit?, time travel, Cable and the destruction of Apocalypse. Some of the events would be out of synk with the original story arc but it's the best that I can think of that would fix the Jean/Phoenix story of X3 and make it poosible for the AoA storyline. Enjoy. Prometheus29 - 9/22/2009, 4:23 AM

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