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Gavin Hood Talks The Wolvie And Sabretooth Relationship In X-Men Origins: Wolverine

Check out what the guy directing the movie thought about Wolverine and Sabretooth being brothers.
Many thanks to MTV news for providing the video.



I still think that was a bad move. In the comics, Wolverine did not like Sabretooth because Sabretooth raped and murdered his wife. Yep, ok, that's enough reason for me to not like someone. Why did he make them brothers again?
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70 Comments

Because he's a douche bag.

Here's to Wolverine 2 being that much better off without him!
Bamf7 - 9/16/2009, 9:03 AM
In fairness, although it was never stated as fact that Dog was actually Creed in the Origins comic, it was sort of left to your own interpretation. So Hood and the writers just interpreted! I still don't like it either though.
Rorschach01 - 9/16/2009, 9:05 AM
WHY CANT MY ARTICLES EVER MAKE THE FRONT PAGE?
Ozymandias - 9/16/2009, 9:09 AM
Ok these MTV videos are really starting to get on my tits:
"MTV Videos Cannot Be Viewed Outside The US For Copyright Reasons" This happens every time its a video from MTV. Can anyone tell me what he says?

JaySchluffy - 9/16/2009, 9:10 AM
fricken editors.
Ozymandias - 9/16/2009, 9:15 AM
Gavin Hood didn't know what he was doing..

@Ozy - cause nobody likes you? I mean, favoritism of editors is high on this site...especially the one who left the comment above you!.. :D
Minotauro - 9/16/2009, 9:15 AM
They was [frick]ing Brothers!!!

Good actors but the characters as brothers was just lame an stupid lol!

BAMF @ WOLVERINE 2's gonna be better, no way it could ever be worst! ; D

JMAN @ exactly!!
LEEE777 - 9/16/2009, 9:15 AM
Ozy, I have main paged quite a few of your articles in the past. On this occasions you just weren't quick enough with the Kick Ass one, which wouldn't have made it anyway because you copied it from MTV. The justice league one i wrote yesterday! I you check you will see it about 10 articles down. Any more complaints?

I think we will have to open a complaints and whiners section on CBM!
Rorschach01 - 9/16/2009, 9:22 AM
IM THE F*CKIN OZYMANDIAS,KING OF KINGS!
Ozymandias - 9/16/2009, 9:23 AM
LOL Watchmen battle

WoW Christopher McQuarrie is writing the screenplay?

New Title: Wolverine The Usual Suspect
LiquidSnake - 9/16/2009, 9:24 AM
@ Ozy Yea but in this case you have to be FLASH
StrangemannX09 - 9/16/2009, 9:25 AM
@ ror

i agree, it is left to interpretation if sabretooth is logan's brother in the graphic novel of Origin. but to anyone that knows sabretooth's story, its pretty clear to see that he is NOT in fact related to logan by blood in any way.

its been shown countless times that sabretooth was raised by a mutant hater and kept him chained up in the basement, then he would throw a rabit or some other small animal into the basement for sabretooth to kill and eat. this is a seriously important part of creed's past considering it explains why he has this NEED to kill and murder. so i don't really like the fact that they hint that Dog is Sabretooth because he clearly is not, unless they just want to retcon years and years of sabretooth's past, which would be awful

but i AM surprised no one has done a story about the letter that Rose to Logan at the end. when cookie malone throws her diary in the fire, that letter falls out. you know logan will get his hands on that at some point!
CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 9:29 AM
IM THE F*CKIN OZYMANDIAS,KING OF KINGS!
Ozymandias - 9/16/2009, 9:30 AM
Too bad they can't bring Nick Fury/ Shield into the next film to dispel the whole brother issue like the comics. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing Fury vs Wolverine later on. I know Wolverine is Fox property, but they have such a hate/ hate relationship that it would be kinda cool to see on screen.
SoulCollector - 9/16/2009, 9:31 AM
who do you think you are posting silliness like that?? do you go around spouting that nonsense in real life?? "i'm ozymandias, king of kings." for real?? jesus
CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 9:33 AM
Very true CDB. The writer of the Origins actually addressed that. He said that all Creed flashbacks should be taken as multiple choice because your dealing with such a disturbed mind! Cop out right? But he said it. I also like that version better. I guess these screen writers just don't do enough research. They probably read Origins and just took it for granted that Dog was Creed and that was that.
Rorschach01 - 9/16/2009, 9:39 AM
@ ror

lol, thats probably exactly what happened, half assin' it is the fox specialty
CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 9:42 AM
It would have been fine that they amalgamated Creed and Dog if Sabretooth wasn't in X-men 1. It just didn't make sense.
Michael Galusick - 9/16/2009, 9:45 AM
Dog was not Creed. He had no powers, he had no claws.

The artist that did that issue of origins drew him kind of looking like Creed at times and for that reason, generations of readers since have wanted Dog to be sabertooth, mistaken dog for Sabertooth, opined, surmised, and supposed that it was Sabertooth. But the lack of powers part is the clincher.

I have virtually every comic book issue where Creed talks about his childhood. He claims to have murdered his parents. He has memories of sickening abuse, torture, and neglect. He was chained up in a dark basement for years, and his father used pliars to pull his long teeth and claws out.
Dog was an ubused child also but the hair color, the lack of powers.. all that negates that part at least on the comic side.

Now on the movie side I can understand what Hood is trying to do. In the scheme of the film it makes sense, but personally I think they could have handled that better.
They could have even made Dog to be Sabertooth and I wouldn't have minded. They could have made it that Dog/Sabertooth was tied up in the basement and James had a life of privilege, and so Sabes hates Wolverine because of a deep rooted jealousy over their childhood.

If they had chose to make it more like the comics it would have panned out more like this:
Sabertooth and Wolverine didn't know each other as kids but got put working together in a mutant squad of secret agents. Creed is a blood thirsty maniac along with the feral aspect of his powers. Logan has the feral thing but chooses a more noble and humane regard for life. Wolverne's self discipline and relative sanity pisses Creed off because he is endlessly on this trip about how much alike they are and how they are the same.
Then when Weapon X gets ahold of them things get worse. Creed's rage and jealousy toward Wolverine gets put into overdrive when Weapon X gives Wolverine indestructible bones and swordlike claws, but they only augment Sabertooth's strength. Then the two have their first battle, and the Weapon X people decide to use the situation so they brainwash the two of them.
They make Wolverine believe Sabertooth killed the woman he loves, and thus the decades long feud between them starts up.

DarthMulder - 9/16/2009, 9:47 AM
Yeah my main beef with that part of things is that Sabertooth's actual origin is pretty interesting. But in the movie they make his character so that they difference between them is more of a philosophical difference. But Creed is like Jeffery Dahmer with powers. Pitifully at the mercy of a psychological illness. Personally I think that would have translated to film quite well.
DarthMulder - 9/16/2009, 9:56 AM
I think people on this site are ripping unnecessarily into these directors. I'm including Brett Ratner in this as well.
In Hollywood, on these multi,multi-million dollar productions, the producers have as much, if not more say in the story, script, and casting. The directors have some say, but basically, the more renown the director, the more say they have. Generally, the directors mostly have control over the look and the "feel" of the movie.
I don't blame Gavin Hood for the faults of the Wolverine movie, and believe it or not, I don't blame Ratner for X3. Ratner is an ass for making the comments he made about fans, and about the series, but again, I don't think it was his fault.

The main difference between Ratner, and say Jon Favreau, is that Favreau is a fan of comics, and a fan of Iron Man, and actually cared about the movie. Ratner didn't care, and was there to pick up a paycheck. He basically filmed what he was given. If anything, people on this site should be mad at the producers at Fox.

If anyone is unsure about what I'm saying here, if you haven't seen it, watch this clip of Kevin Smith explaining his involvement in Superman Lives/Reborn. It nicely illustrates my point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk
hescian - 9/16/2009, 9:58 AM
@Hescian Thank you for the link, Kevin is a great guy
LiquidSnake - 9/16/2009, 10:05 AM
Meh, I liked the whole brother thing in the movie, it was the rest of the so-called plot that was questionable especially THOSE bullets!

@Darthmulder
Your idea for Wolverine is awesome, it would have made sense than the actual plot and it would have been a hell of a lot more interesting!
dancingmonkey08 - 9/16/2009, 10:05 AM
Has this guy ever even read a comic book? It's obvious that he doesn't care what the fans want, it's what he wanted to make. He wasted Ryan Reynolds as Wade Wilson, which is now getting a reboot (is it possible to reboot something that was never made in the first place?), and he made Creed and Logan brothers just because he wanted them to be brothers... horrible. I still like the movie, but it could have been so much better if someone other than Gavin Hood and FOX had made it. Thank everything that is holy in the comic book world that he will not be back for Wolverine 2.
RadioShackMan - 9/16/2009, 10:10 AM
@ Dancingmonkey: Thanks. That's really just a simplified version of how it happened in the comics. Whenever I find something uncool with a movie I always try to think of how I would have done it differently.

Also I am a writer. It's really just a little side hobby. I write treatments and screenplays for indy film makers that I know. As far as I know none of my stuff has ever been used.
DarthMulder - 9/16/2009, 10:32 AM
In the comic books I like to believe that Creed may be Logans half brother as I like the connection it gives between the two characters (and am one day hoping for a storyline where the two find out - something I was hoping the Wolverine: Origins series would do instead of giving us Daken!) but i guess it really is just a matter of interpretation when reading 'Origin'.

As for the movie, well for those who read 'Origin' and decided that Dog was Sabertooth it was pretty accurate in many ways! I liked how the relationship between the two was handled (at least to begin with - Sabertooths reasoning for turning on Logan seemed a little thin) Its all just a matter of interpretation i guess! I for one quite liked Wolverine! :)

joshw24 - 9/16/2009, 10:34 AM
the bad thing is they messed up the chronology so now wolvie doesn't remember sabertooth and the rape...but i still like the movie
Denn1s - 9/16/2009, 10:54 AM
@ mulder

not to mention, mutant powers typically manifest at the pre-teen age. but when we see dog as a grown up in "origin", he still has those scars on his face from when logan slashed him. not to mention, sabretooth doesn't have those scars. but good explanation, you nailed sabretooth's past on the head. i just don't see the connection between dog and creed. there are WAY too many inconsistancies
CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 10:59 AM
CBD: you're right - the inconsistancies make it a little hard to match Dog and Sabertooth as the same person...maybe his healing factor was a secondary mutation!?! This is what I was hoping the Wolverine: Origins series would explain after House of M - instead, we still have no solid facts about Wolverines true origins!!
joshw24 - 9/16/2009, 11:20 AM
YOU KNOW IVE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE DARK AND FUSTRATED ABOUT WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH WOLVERINE AND SABERTOOTH REALLY WAS,BROTHERS, FATHER AND SON, SAME TRIBE, I DUNNO..I PROLLY MISSED THE ISSUE..BUT I THINK THE MOVIE MIGHT INFLUENCE THE COMIC TO MAKE THEM BROTHERS..DID THEY CHANGE THE WEB THING IN THE COMICS FOR SPIDERMAN BECAUSE OF THE MOVIE? NOT SURE..
GUNSMITH - 9/16/2009, 11:22 AM
lol Yeah Josh that newer Origins series just makes things more confusing if anything. It kinda sucks I hear
DarthMulder - 9/16/2009, 11:27 AM
God that movie was bad. They completely sh*tted on Gambit, and I love Gambit.
supermarioworldE - 9/16/2009, 11:32 AM
@ mulder

its sad because it was good at first (i personally didn't like the art, but i read comics for the story)but it just kept making everything more and more convoluted. it got cancelled for a reason, ya know?
CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 11:35 AM
DarthMulder- I think Dog was abused as well. I remember the father beating him when he would get drunk. I even think that Logan's father even warned him about it. I am not a hundred % but I swear I can remember Dog's father beating him in the first issue.

CDB- Yeah origins started out good but when they brought Daken in things got kind of boring. I have kept reading from time to time in order to find out who has been manipulating Logan for years.
ironknight27 - 9/16/2009, 11:36 AM
@ ironknight

dog was abused, but not anywhere near the abuse that creed took. creed was treated like an animal.
CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 11:46 AM
WOLVERINE ORIGINS, AND I KNOW PEOPLE WILL HATE ON ME..WASN'T HORRIBLE..I MEAN I WAS ENTERTAINED, YEAH THEY CHANGED ALOT..BUT THINK OF IT THIS WAY, YOU HAVE TO STUMBLE A BIT BEFORE YOU CAN STAND.HEY, THERE WAS MIXED REVIEWS AND THE LEAK DIDNT HELP IT EITHER, BUT IT MADE ENUFF TO ALLOW FOR A SECOND ONE AND WITH A NEW DIRECTOR IT COULD GIVE US THE WOLVERINE WE LOVE,NO MORE WONDERING WHERE HE CAME FROM..NOW JUST STRAIGHT ACTION AND CARNAGE..BRING ON THE HAND THE SILVER SAMURAI AND THE COSTUME.
GUNSMITH - 9/16/2009, 11:46 AM
Ironknight: Your absolutely right. Dog was abused. I did say that in one of my other comments.

"....Dog was an ubused child also but the hair color, the lack of powers.. all that negates that part at least on the comic side."

Not to mention the fact that he was named DOG for Pete's sake! That's abuse in and of itself lol

Anyway what heppened to dog was horrible, but that was nothing compared the savage ordeal suffered by Sabertooth as a kid.

@ CorndogBurgler: Oh so it was cancelled? Yeah no surprise there. That was an exercise in futility and a major dissappointment from the very start.
What they should have done is another biographical series telling the story of what happened to Wolverine next. Instead every issue was him just having yet another random meeting with some other random character that he knew from way back when.
DarthMulder - 9/16/2009, 11:55 AM
Emotional power to the film? And then it was all lost after that scene because this movie had no emotion, it was flatter than Keira Knightley. The CGI was pretty bad, the whole story was crap, the adamantium gun didn't make any damn sense, why they didn't just stick to the original way he lost his memory...oh yeah because they f^cked up the rest of the story so bad they couldn't do it, plus keeping within continuity is definitely not Fox's strongest attribute.
Stumblin - 9/16/2009, 12:00 PM
Plz update with a video we can all watch. Boycott MTV!
theartofoneness - 9/16/2009, 12:38 PM
total bullshit... the only thing i found amusing was Gambit and Deadpool. Even Cyclops being a kid in the movie was bullshit... Not to mention Sabortooth looks completely different from the first X-men movie... now that pissed me off too. TOTAL CRAP!!!!!!!
ragdoll03289 - 9/16/2009, 12:39 PM
And Sabertooth raping and killing Logan's lover wouldn't have brought emotional power to the film?? Puhleeeze.

Since when did Wolverine: Origins get the axe???
sniktchick74 - 9/16/2009, 12:47 PM
@GUNSMITH I understand the whole "stumble before you can stand" philosophy, but wasn't that what X-Men 1 - 3 accomplished? Three movies was enough stumbling around, they should have nailed it this time.

I just watched Origins again (this is my second time). I have to say I liked it even less this time around. Wolvie stopping optic blasts with his claws. . . Ummm ok
MultiPurposePoni - 9/16/2009, 1:00 PM
yeah multi that was pretty stupid. And they got red hot too lol
DarthMulder - 9/16/2009, 1:18 PM
DarthMulder: I actually stopped reading it about 15 issues back! I didnt enjoy House of M that much but the news that there would be a series revealing Wolverine's past sounded like the best thing to come out of it! It should have been an ongoing storyline starting at the beginning of his life and going onwards from there...instead it was a garbled bunch of nonsense revealing a past completely irrelevant to everything we've read before!!! I didnt know that it had gotten cancelled but bloody good job i say! :)
joshw24 - 9/16/2009, 2:00 PM
@DarthMulder Glad you're on my side buddy :) check out my fan casting of the real Team X, I might write a story to go with it next week.
MultiPurposePoni - 9/16/2009, 3:10 PM
idc if dag was victor i liked the movie it was good to me
flames809 - 9/16/2009, 3:26 PM
huh people, to be fair Chris claremont had planned for sabretooth and wolverine to be related a long time ago even if most people didn't agree with him. It was hinted in some way that they were indeed related. Not brother but more like sabretooth was wolverine father, of course it didn't happen in the comic due to most people not wanting chris to include it in any issues.

SuperLuchador - 9/16/2009, 3:30 PM
josh24, True dat. It's a real shame too because there is a lot potential for good story telling there. That book cheesed it up almost as bad as the movie. Every time you look there's somebody else who isn't supposed to have longevity powers who had a run in with Wolverine in the 50's or whatever. The only one that made any sense was that one about the cyborg dude with the American FLag tatooed on his face. That was a tie in from the pages of Daredevil, and he was a Weapon X creation. Other than that it all pretty much stank.

Multipurposeponi, ok I'll have a look.
DarthMulder - 9/16/2009, 3:57 PM
If it wasn't for the internet, I would have never even thought about Creed and Dog being the same person. Just doesn't make any sense and doesn't add anything interesting to what we've got imo.

Ah, well, the Wolverine movie could have been great. Why did they spend so much creative energy on making it suck?
Kyos - 9/16/2009, 4:33 PM
IT MADE ENUFF MONEY TO MERIT A SEQUEL..SO ITS PRETTY OBVIOUS SOMEBODY LOVED IT
GUNSMITH - 9/16/2009, 5:00 PM
@ josh

wolverine origins didn't get cancelled, it actually got a name change and now its called something else. i can't think of the name of it, i think it might be called "weapon x" now. but it isn't revealing his past anymore like origins was. daken is the character in the actual "wolverine" book now because of dark reign. wolvie has like 4 books to himself. by the way, i like talking comics with you, man, you know what time it is!

@ ironknigt

if i had to guess i'd say that romulus guy that has been following wolverine is wolverine's dead brother. i don't know if you've read "origin" but they explain that wolverine had a brother that was born before him, but he died at a young age, maybe in childbirth? i can't remember if it was childbirth, but he's def "dead". he had claws too, because one scene shows logan's mother changing and she has claw marks on her ribs from when the brother was born. but i think he's romulus. it would make sense.

also, if you read "wolverine: the end" its all about that same brother coming back to recruit wolvie. its a follow up to "origins". its way in the future and out of continuity though, but the brother says he's been following wolvie his whole life. his parents put him in a mental institution at a young age, and told everyone he died. thats where he was during "origin".

CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 5:47 PM
Hood and the scriptwriter did such a horrible job with Wolverween Snorigins that I don't care how Gavin explains himself...I wish he would just get the hell away from the X-men and Rat-turd get away too!
DDD - 9/16/2009, 6:03 PM
yeah to the film not the comics hood'its an assumption to me not neccesarly true to me hood cares about money more than he cares about the comics like brett.
Weiner123 - 9/16/2009, 6:31 PM
Wolverine:Origins has not been canceled, not sure who said it has been or where they heard. The series has introduced what I think could be Wolverine's greatest foe in Romulus who has been manipulating Wolverine, Sabertooth (who was killed by Wolverine during the Evolution arc I believe), Wild Child, Cyber, Omeg Red, Daken and several others from Wolverine's past.

In X-Men Forever Chris Claremont has taken the road of Sabertooth being Wolverine's father. An interesting concept that kind of makes sense.

In the comics there is no relation between Logan and Creed. Creed was raised on a farm I'm guessing in the 1920's. He was locked in a dungeon after killing his brother over a piece of pie. When he broke out, apparently by chewing off his own hand, he killed his parents. He did not meet Wolverine until much later when they met in a bar seemingly at random then the next day Creed kills his woman and starts the tradition of fighting him on his birthday, whether or not it's Logan's or Creed's is never made clear. (Read X-Men Origins: Sabertooth)

For years there was a debate about Logan/Creeds relationship. Is Wolverine the son or father; are they brothers. I think it's possible that they are cousins or some kind of distant relative. Origins made people speculate that Wolverine was dog's brother because his resemblance to Dog's father as an adult is uncanny. If this is true then that would mean that Dog and Wolverine are half brothers and we don't know if Dog fathered any illegitamte children before his confrontation with Logan years later.
comicguy - 9/16/2009, 7:30 PM
Title's Woverine are in
Wolverine: Origins
Wolverine: Weapon X
X-Force
Astonishing X-Men
New Avengers
Uncanny X-Men

Origins is about him working out his past
Weapon X is just a replacement for his Wolverine title which was taken over by Daken and retitled Dark Wolverine
comicguy - 9/16/2009, 7:41 PM
I have no problems them as being brothers... but just make a good entertaining story. Ü
access - 9/16/2009, 8:12 PM
@ comicguy

oh i thought they were cancelling origins. my mistake.
so comicguy, do you think romulus is going to turn out to be logan's dead brother?? i do
CorndogBurglar - 9/16/2009, 8:26 PM
Hi I'm Gavin wood, director of wolverine.....
superdog - 9/16/2009, 9:08 PM
i can deal with the half brother thing .. just the shitty ending where sabretooth saves wolverine still sickens me,

yeah good riddance guy
loganaspatch - 9/16/2009, 9:10 PM
yer these mtv vids are annoying the hell outa me iv missd so many interviews cus i live in the uk surly 1 of u nos how 2 download the vid from mtv n u cud just uploade it 2 youtube .
Roscoe182 - 9/16/2009, 9:11 PM
Corndog Burgler- I never thought of that until you mentioned it. It'd be cool if he was. Check out the pic of the guy though.
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comicguy - 9/17/2009, 12:38 AM
There could have been a better solution: Wolverine & Sabretooth as best friends growing up. This would have solved the emotional connection for the film and also align with the comics a little more smoothly.
stephenismyname - 9/17/2009, 1:05 AM
possibly, but Wolverine and Sabertooth didn't grow up together in the comics. They didn't meet for the first time till they were both already adults and have never really been friends.
comicguy - 9/17/2009, 1:24 AM
Hey Ozymandias,
suck it, I'm Jackie Earle Haley

BI*CH

lmao ;D
Fartman - 9/17/2009, 8:03 AM
comicguy in wolverine origins they were friends as kids, and it was hinted at that they were in fact half brothers. Both the origins of Wolverine and Sabertooth have been retconed so many times that it's hard to say which is cannon so it's mostly up to which one you personally like.
thwhtGuardian - 9/17/2009, 3:09 PM
You are talking about the Origin mini series. The character you are refereing to is Dog, not Sabertooth, though many speculate that Dog is in fact Sabertooth which is not true. The main reason being mutant powers manifest in adolescents. Wolverine clawed Dog's face leaving three distint scars that were still seen years later when Dog and Logan met up again at a mining camp. If Dog were in fact Sabertooth then those wounds would have healed. But yes it is possible that Dog and Logan were half brothers.

Wolverine and Sabertooth have not been retconed to my knowledge. Wolverine's past has always been a mystery as has his relationship to Sabertooth. Origin is the story of his life before becoming Wolverine. The three volumes of his sereis that followed have depicted his life after, before and during Weapon X at various stages. Not once was re retconned like some other characters in the past and more recently.

Wolverine: Origins and Origin are two different things. Wolverine: Origins is dealing with Wolverine, after having got his memories back, trying to find the one responsible for manipulating him all his life (Romulus) and atone for his sins.

I think you may be confusing retconned with being re imagined in alternate universe or timelines like Ultimate X-Men or X-Men Forever. In Ult. X-Men it is hinted at that Wolverine is Sabertooth's father while in X-Men Forever it is hinted at that Sabertooth is Wolverine's father. In the main universe though it has been hinted that the two were from the same tribe of sorts.

Seriously though people. Wolverine and Sabertooth are not related and never have been. Read Origin again, yes I know there is a resemblance between Dog and Sabertooth but that's all there is, just a resemblance.
When you've finished Origin read X-Men Origin: Sabertooth. There is no younger looking version of Logan in that and the time period looks completely different.
comicguy - 9/17/2009, 3:55 PM
Since when has Fox been completely true to the comics. I watched X3 and I never knew Callisto could run like Quicksilver. And where's her tentacles?
shibbmeister - 9/17/2009, 9:17 PM
Considering how similar their powers are, I don't see it being that much of a stretch that they're blood related, in all honesty.
MovieTheaterLad - 9/17/2009, 10:22 PM
by that logic then Jean Grey is related to Prof. X cause they have similar powers.
comicguy - 9/17/2009, 11:24 PM
@ movie

lots of characters have similar powers, and also, in the comics, its been stated that the powers you get from an x-gene are NOT hereditary. not ot mention, Dog and sabretooth have WAY too many inconsistencies to be the same person.

@ comicguy

i haven't been reading comics for about a year, i've got a kid coming and trying to save money! but i didn't know they showed what romulus looks like yet!! after seeing that pic, it only strengthens my argument!! i think romulus is definately logan's brother now, they look just alike!!!!! sweet
CorndogBurglar - 9/18/2009, 5:41 AM

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