Mr.SotoMans: Fan4tasic Review!

Mr.SotoMans: Fan4tasic Review!

Its time to reveal how good I thought this movie was. After 2 years of complaining, whiney and bashing of the new movie and the studio Fox; it was time to finally put it to an end. Is it the movie that most Marvel fans wanted? Nope.

Review Opinion
By PussyLicker4000 - Jul 30, 2015 04:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

After 8 years of waiting for another Fantastic Four movie, the reboot directed by Josh Trank (Chronicle) was something that no fan ever admitted into seeing due to the nature of how the movies cast, direction and possibly script is being mishandled by the long hated movie studio 20th Century Fox. It wasn't till back in Febuary where I was lucky enough to actually withness the movie first hand with my wife and son as a special sneak peek. 



THE GOOD
So what is the good behind this movie? Does it exist, do these characters have good moments? And the answer is simply YES. Lets start with the beginning, for those of you who believe Reed is a grocery store clerk, he isn't. You actually do not know anything about his occupation other than he is brilliant and has built genius inventions that caught the eye of the Baxter Instituition. While working on teleportation in the beginning of the movie with young Reed & Ben doing the experiment you see in trailers, it turns out that same invention is what Reed has always achieved in life was crossing over to another dimension, pretty much being the next Neil Armstrong, or Christopher Coloumbus minus the rape and slaughtering.

The picture I have to the left is when he is actually invited to go to the Baxter Institute. Before this moment you are introduced to a lot of their personalities, when I mean personalities I mean the four in general. While every character may look different from their comic book counterpart, they're likeable but also have this certain chemistry and bond that was sorely lacking in the Tim Story movie. It gives you this vibe of not to actually feel like "HOLY SHIT, I GOT COOL SUPERPOWERS" but "HOLY SHIT, WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING TO ME!?!?" vibe instead. They all feel like these powers are truly sicknesses, where as in the Tim Story movie their feelings towards are explained in one sentence by Reed once or twice and never mentioned again. Hell its even implied Reed wanted to be a superhero. Here, there is none of that till the third act of the movie.


While a lot of that is going on, you of course are going to have the one person who does not believe in the project at all, cut to Harvey Elder who is the CIA liason of the project. While he does play an asshole, you don't get that hint of villany that is present with the character in the comics. Although he does mention an island (Easter Egg?), anywho, you have him who does not agree with what has happened and pins the blame all on Franklin Storm. Another great actor in this movie who believes in the four. All of them do a good job at the script that was presented to them but what about Doom?

As for Doom, he wasn't a terribly written character, but they could of done a lot better. Is he as terrible as the past two movies? Absoulutely not, in fact of being obvious exact opposite he really is a big threat to the Four. As for his plan, his plan is to obtain all knowledge of other universe and dimensions, which is why he looks the way he is. The Negative Zone has not only changed the way he looks but has made him a freak of nature. While the route does fit the movie, it just feels very bland to have what caused the F4 to get their powers have it happen to Doom. While of course written better, it still makes little to no sense to have that idea ingrained in audiences head that he too was part of the accident. 

What I can say though that a lot of the action and special effects truly hold up. Well......somewhat. You have to remember, watching this through a rough cut is kind of hard to review what is seen and what is not seen. The Thing at times was of course not finished and some parts he looked almost done. Doom did not have the green outlines on his body and The Human Torch didn't look as intricate as he does in trailers right now. Even the score with some of it using Ottmans classic and the theme song sounding like something from Danny Elfman. So I'll skip to the bad, is there any bad? To all you Marvel Studios fans, YES.

THE BAD
Now what is the bad in this movie? So far it seems I am praising it right? Well some moments do seem a bit forced, especially the third act. For some reason, like in the past two F4 movies, the third act seems nothing more but the same old bullshit. Villain arises, villain almost kills the four and the four actually stand up and defeat. Sure I did a plotline of the first movies final battle, but this final battle is a mixture of the first two movies final battle. Minus of course the Super-Skrull moment, but it has those moments from both those movies. Not to mention how what the experiment they have created is nothing more than what marks the end of the world as well.  


What I can say about it as well, is that it does end quick as well. It does run at 2 hours, but for some reason I feel as if I didn't really learn that much. Of course you can argue the movie is different from the last two in many ways, but sometimes it sort of does feel the same except it has a much more tragic feel to it. It not only feels contrived but it also feels some what weak to add an origin story all together. Which is why pacing is sometimes an issue in this movie, everything happens a little to fast like the original film. I know you do need to have that in a superhero movie nowadays, but their character moments are often clouded because it rushes to the big moments. Its sad because a lot of the big moments, could be the characters. Instead we are hurrying to the training, hurry to the battle of Doom, hurry lets show some end of the world escapades again. It's sad because a lot of the big moments is how hard they tried to work with these characters while also trying to respect who they were by building their origin. 

OVERALL
The movie is not even close to being horrible.  In fact, it really is on borderline of really good and great. The biggest achievement of this movie is them trying to create characters that you care about, and that was the biggest goal of this movie. It wasn't to execute the direction, but to make sure these characters can be likable to audiences. Now of course, a lot of Marvel fanboys will hope and pray it fails but if you do keep an open mind it is an intriguing vision of the Fantastic Four that not only gives you a movie with good action and heart, but it for sure does not feel like a tragic drama at all. 
For people who actually considered giving this movie a chance, I trust you do so. I know it isn't like the comics, or hell even the Ultimates even; but it does something truly unique for superhero movies. I don't believe it sent it back, but it honestly sent it forward into possibilities for other superheroes movies.

3.7/5

 

 

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BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 7/30/2015, 8:35 PM
@MrSotoman
Is there any end credit scenes?
JamesMann
JamesMann - 7/30/2015, 8:50 PM
@MrSotoMan

Dude I love you for this, we generally seem to agree on movie tastes so this is a great review for me. If it's a similar score for me I'll be happier than Gusto at a children's party.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/30/2015, 8:52 PM
So it was good?
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/30/2015, 8:57 PM
@Soto let's hope critics agree!
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 7/30/2015, 8:58 PM
@MrSotoMan Off-topic, but I enjoyed the Falcon cameo because it served two purposes:

1) It was an important character moment for Lang. That mini-heist was his big "test" to see if he could actually handle the suit and its powers. Going toe-to-toe with an Avenger and actually accomplishing his mission was a HUGE moment for him.

2) It set the stage for his future in Civil War. When Cap and Falcon have clearly gone underground/rogue and can't get help from the usual places, they need someone with super powers who is still under the radar. Luckily, Falcon has just encountered someone who matches that description perfectly.

So of course Lang didn't NEED to go to the Avengers facility to get that MacGuffin, but as far as cameos go, it was cleverly integral to the plot both in the present and the future. That's as natural as it gets with that type of thing, IMO.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 7/30/2015, 8:58 PM
But back on topic, good review! I get the feeling this movie will result in a lot more "It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either" type of reviews. I don't think it'll be a trainwreck, but clearly not a masterpiece either. Probably a very middle-of-the-road flick that won't change anybody's preconceived notions. If someone wanted to like it, they'll like it. If they didn't, they won't. That's the vibe I'm starting to get.
JamesMann
JamesMann - 7/30/2015, 8:58 PM
@MrSotoMan

Hey man, you don't need to sell me! I'm there opening day. At least I'm assured it's better than any previous attempt at adapting the FF.

Also, depending on when you saw the cut they could have thrown in an after credits. The tracklist for the soundtrack was released and there's a song that appears after the end credits one so MAYBE it's been tacked on.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/30/2015, 9:00 PM
@Soto so it is well recieved
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 7/30/2015, 9:07 PM
Cool review! From the looks of it, I'll really dig the movie! Which is nothing short of amazing considering everything... Can't wait. Just a shame people have already made their mind up whether they'll hate it or not.

But dude... Falcon's cameo rocked and was actually pretty important for reasons @SauronsBANE mentioned.



I'm positive I'll end this year with Ant-Man being my favorite CBM of the year.


CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/30/2015, 9:08 PM
Ant-man was my original pick for best CBM back in early 2014 before Wright left, glad it happened either way.

I agree with those saying it'll be ok. It will be like MOS, calling it now, same RT score and all
JamesMann
JamesMann - 7/30/2015, 9:10 PM
So far I have

Avengers AOU: 3.5/5
Ant-Man: 3.5/5

It's been a decent year for CBM's. All were good so far, just nothing extraordinary... yet.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/30/2015, 9:12 PM
AOU-7/10
Ant-8/10

after FF hits Ant-Man will be king this year, calling it. Critically speaking
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 7/30/2015, 9:17 PM
"I'm positive I'll end this year with Ant-Man being my favorite CBM of the year."

Starfox
Starfox - 7/30/2015, 9:17 PM
Sounds like a good movie and you're being cautious with your score. LOL Jk.. I want it to be good and I didn't think Trank would dissapoint so paint me as excited!

GREAT REVIEW!
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 7/30/2015, 9:18 PM
Nice job. But I imagine the site will have to delete your early review.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/30/2015, 9:19 PM
@0mega he saw it in Feb I'm sure they were done with reshoots
Android
Android - 7/30/2015, 9:28 PM
OmegaDaGr0dd but how long did he say they were going on for? and did he specify that they were on going or that he was going in for some re-shoots? because those are two different things.
Anyway Mr.Sotoman...are you MrBlueFox?
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/30/2015, 9:29 PM
Thanks for the review and your thoughts, MrSotoMan.

The anarchist in me always gets excited at the prospect of a complete and total disaster. But most of these big budget movies usually have enough competent people around to make them have some redeeming qualities. Even messes like Wolverine Origins, Spider-Man 3, and Amazing Spider-Man 2 aren't really truly terrible in the same way that an unfunny Nick Swardson movie or a truly badly made horror film is.

We grade superhero movies on a scale, with the worst still generally being just sort of bad and the best still generally being just pretty good, compared to films outside the genre.

"Just okay" is a dangerous place for a movie like this in the fandom. Green Lantern was just okay, too, but since it never presented a compelling hook for why people should care beyond "look, it's Ryan Reynolds!", a lackluster box office return meant it had no champions to sing its modest praises. A movie like Watchmen or Punisher Warzone can still hold onto some amount of fanbase (at least in internet comment sections if nowhere else). If Fant4stic isn't a clear box office success, I wonder if it will at least win any good will outside of studio loyalists...
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 7/30/2015, 9:39 PM
@0mega that may be a good thing
StevenLaw
StevenLaw - 7/30/2015, 9:55 PM
@SpockOClock That was probably the most rational thing I've read in regards to this film yet. Very well said. I agree with you. Hell, you should write your own article the day this film comes out. If any film needs a fair review, it's this one.

Oh, and I'm on the "hate train" for this film too and I've wanted nothing more for it to fail and revert back to Marvel Studios... but that doesn't mean I want to be bias and not get an honest review.
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