JJ Abrams Says THE FORCE AWAKENS' Lightsaber Duels Are More "Aggressive", Less "Slick"

JJ Abrams Says THE FORCE AWAKENS' Lightsaber Duels Are More "Aggressive", Less "Slick"

Fans have wondered whether Star Wars: The Force Awakens would replicate the beautifully choreographed, visually stunning lightsaber battles of the prequels or return to the more visceral, aggressive fights of the OT. JJ Abrams may have just revealed the answer to that...

By Minty - Nov 28, 2015 07:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Empire (via ScreenRant)

Lightsaber battles have always played a key role in Star Wars, starting with that first nail-biting confrontation between Obi-Wan & Darth Vader in A New Hope, and getting more and more elaborate with each new installment. The fight scenes in the prequel trilogy offered some of the most visually stunning sequences of the entire saga. Relentless and beautifully choreographed, they ushered in a new wave of young fans (like myself) who embraced them with glee.

However, there's a case that they were almost too perfectly choreographed, and in being so, lost all meaning or sense of internal struggle they once had. The Force Awakens director JJ Abrams seems to share this point of view. Speaking to Empire (via ScreenRant), 
he promised a return to the raw, "heart-stopping" lightsaber battles of old this December:

“When you look at Star Wars and Empire, they are very different lightsaber battles, but for me they felt more powerful because they were not quite as slick. I was hoping to go for something much more primitive, aggressive and rougher, a throwback to the kind of heart-stopping lightsaber fights I remembered being so enthralled by as a kid.”



The director also elaborated on where else he drew inspiration from on The Force Awakens (outside of the Star Wars movies). In the extract from Empire inserted below, he claims the works of celebrated auteurs like Terrence Malick, Akira Kurosawa and John Ford all had a very strong influence on the visual style and composition of his blockbuster movie.

[Abrams] looked at “the confidence” of John Ford Westerns. He took in the “unbelievable scene choreography and composition” of Kurosawa’s High and Low. And he studied “the powerful stillness” of Terrence Malick. “It’s not something I would normally have thought of coming to Star Wars,” he says. The spare visual style of Ford, Kurosawa and Malick points to a key mandate for Abrams’ approach to Episode VII: the distinctive less-is-more quality of the originals.



It's fascinating to see a Star Wars movie influenced by so many distinguished filmmakers - but the prospect of watching a new breed of lightsaber fight is even more exciting. If Abrams has managed to find a blend between the magnificent visual style of prequels and the orginal trilogy's raw substance, we could be in for some of the most impressive fantasy action sequences of all-time here. What do you think of what he had to say? Be sure to leave your thoughts below!

Star Wars: The Force Awakens hits theatres December 18.
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CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 11/28/2015, 7:14 AM
That's really interesting to hear, especially since Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress were such a huge influence on the original Star Wars movies.
soaponapope
soaponapope - 11/28/2015, 7:15 AM
the prequel fights got out of control, some of them were just outrageously long and it felt like they would never end
CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 11/28/2015, 7:18 AM
Abrams is really solid, in my opinion. I definitely feel like Rian Johnson has some big shoes to fill when it comes to the next movie ... nothing he's done has really convinced me he's ready to take on something as big as Star Wars.
BodieBroadus
BodieBroadus - 11/28/2015, 7:21 AM
The later prequel fights were stupid, but the Darth Maul vs Qui Gon and Obi Wan duel is the best lightsaber scene in all 6 movies.
TheAcuario
TheAcuario - 11/28/2015, 7:22 AM
I like the lightsaber duels in both trilogies, for the prequels i thought the fighting style was done to show when the Jedi were in their prime, while in Original Trilogy the fighter became rougher since the Jedi were extinct there was no proper fighting technique. Just in my opinion
DarthTano
DarthTano - 11/28/2015, 7:27 AM
I love all the Lightsaber battles in the saga, especially Darth Vader vs Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith. It's the most badass lasersword fight in the series. Next I'd say Vader vs Luke in ROTJ, once Vader starts taunting him about turning Leia to the Dark side. Luke just loses his shit and goes str8 HAM on daddy dearest. 3rd would be Luke v Vader in Empire Strikes Back of course! A half trained Jedi vs a f*ckin Sith Lord, get outta here! Lol The Darth Maul fight vs Qui Gon n young Obi Wan is kinda frustrating because of that stupid laser grid separator. And because Maul died (not really) terribly. The weakest fight was Ani n Obi vs Count Dooku n Episode2 is super choreographed and lame. But Yoda vs Darth Tyrannus and Yoda vs Darth Sidious are both some of the best fights period!

May the Force be with our new Saber fighters in The Force Awakens and hope no one loses a hand! Lmfao
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/28/2015, 7:29 AM
High and Low is a classic! One of Kurosawa's best films



DAGuess
DAGuess - 11/28/2015, 7:32 AM
Not sure I agree with this. Sure, there are a lot of purists out there that believe you can't beat the original trilogy, but I do believe the new trilogy did an awesome job with the lightsaber fights. Anakin and Obiwan's final fight was long, but it should be. They were two of the most prominent jedi during the clone wars, and were essentially equals, except that the light side won out in the end. Definitely agree with @BodieBroadus on the Maul fight.

Besides the earlier, "slick" fights reflect trained masters vs Luke's few weeks of training with Yoda. The earlier films just have Luke swinging wildly at whatever is in front of him. For Vader to have been a Jedi killing machine, he didn't put up much of a fight against Luke in ROTJ. Luke looked like he was swinging a baseball bat more than a lightsaber.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/28/2015, 7:33 AM
If it's anything like Seven Samurai's aggressive sword fights, then we're in for a treat





gurugeorge
gurugeorge - 11/28/2015, 7:35 AM
There are some things to like about the prequels, and the lightsaber duels (as well as the visual fx generally) are some of those things. But there was some over-choreographing - probably not the expert's fault, probably Lucas over-valuing lightsaber battles.
JPSpideyFan2015
JPSpideyFan2015 - 11/28/2015, 7:43 AM
The lightsaber fights of the prequel are the best, the original trilogy fights are just bad (maybe that with Darth Vader and Luke in Return of the Jedi is fine, but still weak imo).

Obi Wan Vs Anakin in Revenge of the Sith is amazing.
Yoda Vs Palpatine is incredible.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 11/28/2015, 7:50 AM
As long as they don't give me this stupid shit I'm good.





ZombieScarblood
ZombieScarblood - 11/28/2015, 7:51 AM


newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 11/28/2015, 7:54 AM
Got my tix for Thursday night.....If Luke isn't Sith , ILL BE PISSED !


grif
grif - 11/28/2015, 7:56 AM
i dont want to see lightsabers period. its [frick]ing done.

and jj is shit
CallMeColossus
CallMeColossus - 11/28/2015, 7:57 AM
The original trilogy light saber fights were absolute garbage, no way around it.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 11/28/2015, 7:58 AM
Kind of disheartening tho. Seems like JJ is going to play it safe. I was hoping to see if they would add something new to Lightsaber battles like the Prequels did. Guess they won't.
AquaArthur
AquaArthur - 11/28/2015, 8:01 AM
Kylo looks savage swinging his cross saber. Reminds me of a Knight fighting using a broadsword. Just pure brute force and power no finesse which imo is freaking awesome!
Kr08
Kr08 - 11/28/2015, 8:07 AM
I honestly believe that the Force Unleashed found the right mix between the flash from the prequels, including the force powers, and the raw style from the originals. They should at least be able to use their force powers to do some serious damage to the terrain and each other.
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 11/28/2015, 8:16 AM
Did I seriously just see someone say the original trilogy fights were garbage?? Get the [frick] outta here! The only one that was even REMOTELY "garbage" was Obi Wan vs Vader in A New Hope. The other ones were two of the most brilliantly choreographed and well-shot duels I've ever seen.
Justsomenerd
Justsomenerd - 11/28/2015, 8:18 AM
The prequels made lightsaber duels into dances. Some of those duels were quite good and had great choreography. But, they lacked something.

The duels in the OT were mostly rubbish, except for the duel in Empire between Luke and Darth. That is still the best duel by far, prequel or OT. It had more tension than any other duel. I saw it in the theater back in the day and that duel was epic. The way it ended, perfect. (Originally Luke fell in silence, the updated version he screams like a little bit$%, original is better.)
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 11/28/2015, 8:20 AM
Taking a film class on Kurosawa. Haven't seen his films before the class and have been meaning too but God he's probably my favorite director of all time.

Rashomon, Seven Samurai, Yojimbo (my favorite Kurosawa and Mifune movie), and Hidden Fortress are perfection.

Had to compare them to the Americanized films. Rashom = The Outrage. Seven Samurai = Magnificent Seven. Yojimbo = A Fistful of Dollars. Hidden Fortress = Star Wars.

Seven Samurai is no doubt his best but my favorite was Yojimbo.
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 11/28/2015, 8:20 AM
I also really enjoyed the prequel fights. Anakin vs Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith blew my mind as a kid, it may have went on a bit too long and gotten a little too over the top but I still loved it.

The Darth Maul fight is definitely a close second for me, that "Duel of the Fates" still gives me chills to this day.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 11/28/2015, 8:23 AM
The thing I hated looking back on the prequels was lack of conflict outside of good and evil.

I never minded the style of the prequels. They were set in a time where the Jedi and Sith were around but the conflict wasn't as interesting in it's lightsaber duels.

OT duels were much more personal:

Obi-Wan/Vader = Mentor/Student
Luke/Vader = Son/Father
Luke/Vader Vader/Emperor = Son/Father Student/Mentor

Prequels never had that conflict outside of when Maul kills Qui-Gon and we see Obi-Wan/Maul and also when we see Obi-Wan/Anakin fight. Yoda/Emperor was cool though.
elementxstyle
elementxstyle - 11/28/2015, 8:29 AM
I suppose it isn't widely know judging from the comments on here but George Lucas in a making of featurette said that the prequel fights were a showcase of a bygone era where Jedi stilled existed and their martial techniques were on full display. The original trilogy ushered in an age where the techniques were either not needed or very basic in form. Though coming from the prequel era I would assume Obi Wan and Darth Vader would've retained some martial knowledge.

Either way, regardless of how I felt about the prequels I always thought the more choreographed fights were justified via narrative. This was especially true for Yoda who utilized a Jedi martial art that focused heavily on spinning and rotating jumps, which I assume was particularly useful for a Jedi of his stature.
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 11/28/2015, 8:29 AM
I barely liked any of the lightsaber battles in either trilogies 'cept for just two. Anakin vs Obi was cool at first, but then it went on and on.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 11/28/2015, 8:35 AM
@Nomis

MrMartyMarvel
MrMartyMarvel - 11/28/2015, 8:37 AM
Good! Something Lucas really forgot is that you can't just have people fighting and doing cool shit just for the sake of it. There needs to be a thematic/emotional reason for it, and the fight itself has to reflect that. Otherwise we get this…

MarcianooM
MarcianooM - 11/28/2015, 8:38 AM
A mix between the emotion and power Luke had during his last fight with Vader and beginning of the Obi Wan vs Anakin battle would be the best. For some reason Lucas thought having them fight on a volcano planet wasn't cool enough and had to add all that unnessary rope swinging and building falling bs.
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 11/28/2015, 8:38 AM
Prequal fights were just sizzle and no steak. Totally over choreographed.
Spider2YBanana
Spider2YBanana - 11/28/2015, 8:43 AM
The Darth Maul fight was the best in the series. Yeah, I said it.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 11/28/2015, 8:48 AM
@Nomis

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