SPIDER-MAN 4: Raimi Didn’t Know About Rourke Rumor

SPIDER-MAN 4: Raimi Didn’t Know About Rourke Rumor

He didn't know!

By THEHAWK - Mar 23, 2009 03:03 PM EST
Filed Under: The Amazing Spider-Man
Source: MTV

As you know, Mickey Rourke is to be the new villain in Ironman 2, either Whiplash, or Crimson Dynamo.

When it was announced, reports also mentioned that Rourke was also rumored to be up for a villainous role in Spider-Man 4 -- possibly that of Kraven the Hunter. We knew about it, but apparently someone forgot to tell Sam Raimi.

MTV News interviewed Spider-Man 4 director Sam Raimi at the South By Southwest festival this weekend to ask him about the Rourke rumor. Raimi was surprised by the news that the Oscar-nominated actor was mentioned in connection with the web-slinger’s next turn on the big screen.

Raimi asked MTV News. “Really? Where did you hear that?”

“I didn’t know about that,” continued Raimi. “Other people [involved in the film] could have been considering Mickey Rourke for a villain, talking about the Spider-Man films, and maybe they didn’t tell me. That could be true. Maybe they asked an agent for availability and hadn’t yet come to me and said, ‘Sam, this guy’s available, would you like to work with him?’ I love Mickey Rourke, by the way, but they hadn’t yet come to me about that.”

Given Raimi’s surprise and Rourke’s new role Jon Favreau’s Ironman sequel it doesn’t look likely that Rourke will be Kraven in the next Spidey flick.
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akthunder
akthunder - 3/23/2009, 3:42 PM
There are other actors who can play Kraven. Plus im pretty sure no one wants to see Mickey as a villain in two marvel movies.
Galvatron
Galvatron - 3/23/2009, 3:57 PM
Don't feel bad Sam, I didn't know either.
TheSoulEater
TheSoulEater - 3/23/2009, 4:23 PM
That makes 4 of us
ManOfIron
ManOfIron - 3/23/2009, 4:23 PM
what about Russel Crowe? lol i know he'd never do it but i think he'd be ok for it or heck! Tyler Mane is available now since he's not Sabertooth lol
Betty
Betty - 3/23/2009, 5:06 PM
we don't even know who the villain is gonna be. or should i say, who one of the four or five villains are gonna be. Not much has gone into production yet.
MetalHead
MetalHead - 3/23/2009, 10:11 PM
Yeah, anyone could play Kraven. And how about Fez from "That 70's Show" for The Vulture? Then they could get Hyde to be The Kingpin and Ashton Kutcher to be Morbius. What does it matter how far any of them are from the characters they'd be playing? It would be no worse than Topher Grace as Venom. Worst casting ever.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 3/23/2009, 10:39 PM
I originally thought Church was going to be Venom instead of Sandman, boy was I surprised. I like the depth they gave Sandy, but I did not like them making him Ben's killer. That and the fact that they started MJ in Spiderman 1 instead of Gwen Stacy was to me the worst things about the series this far.

And to make things worse they bring Gwen in on Spiderman 3. It would have been better if they left her out of the series completely. It should have been her in the first movie. She should have been in love with Peter first. She should have been kidnapped by Gobby at the bridge. And SHE SHOULD HAVE DIED! Now they need to do like they did in the comics.

Bring back Gobby in Spiderman 4. In the comics he did not die from being impaled, he has a healing factor and he hid in Europe. Meanwhile Peter and MJ are broke up and Peter is now in love with Gwen. Gobby comes back make Peter's life hell, brings in some villains to do his hadiwork, maybe unleash the Lizard, or Kraven. And at the end they do like they did in the comics, Gobby kidnapps Spiermans new love (MJ in comics, now Gwen) he takes her to the bridge and throws her off the bridge. Spidey tries to catch her, her neck snaps. And like the first one should have ended GWEN STACY DIES!! YEAH YA HOO!!
TheMyth
TheMyth - 3/23/2009, 10:49 PM
Scott Adkins as Kraven!!!!
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 3/24/2009, 5:08 AM
Weapon XI??? I'd have to see more of his work before I'd feel comfortable with him. He has the build, but does he have thee talent?
DarkAvengers
DarkAvengers - 3/24/2009, 12:20 PM
Come on, Kraven? He cant carry a movie as the main bad guy. That franchise shit the bed anyway. They ruined Venom and it doesnt look like he'll be coming back.
NAPosey
NAPosey - 3/24/2009, 12:20 PM
THEHAWK - I like your idea of going back to comic book roots, but unfortunately I think they've gone so far from them that they can't go back (at least not to that point). What I'd like to see (since they seem to have no problem switching things up) is them flip the roles of Gwen and MJ. Bring in the Kingpin have him hire somebody to take Spidey out using Osborne's tech (creating the Hobgoblin) and then have the Hobgoblin kill MJ. Then you can continue the series with Gwen as the female lead (hopefully be able to keep Bryce Dallas-Howard as Gwen, cuz she was hot in SM3).
shibazz
shibazz - 3/24/2009, 12:26 PM
We in the Native American Delegation would like to cast our chips in for Two actors as to read for the role of Kraven the Hunter....
1 : "The Rock "
2 : Mr. Lou Ferigno

That is all
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 3/24/2009, 12:38 PM
Kraven = Vin Diesel

Maybe? Just throwing it out there!
SpiderBat209
SpiderBat209 - 3/24/2009, 1:02 PM
I really wanted to see a Spidey vs Hobgoblin vs Green Goblin triple threat for SM3, Venom and Carnage for SM4, Lizard and the final battle with Green Goblin (Harry dies) for SM5 and Sinister Six and the return of Doc Ock for SM6, having the franchise go out with a bang! But alas, it NEVER happened.

The only way to save the franchise IS to bring back Norman Osborne and Doc Ock, and introduce Kraven and Lizard to set the stage for the Sinister Six. As far as love interests, send MJ away to Paris, but give her cameo time, let Petey knock boots with Gwen and send her packing, then bring in Felicia Hardy aka Black Cat! And at some point, make her an Ally for Spidey, cuz he's gonna need some serious help trying to take down the Six!

It sounds like alot to formulate, but as we've seen in the new BatMan franchise, you can minimize character roles (we've seen Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow, Mr.Zsasz, Joker, Two-face, Carmine Falcone, and Boss Maroni in just TWO Films!)

What daya tink, Yo?
MisterNiceGuy
MisterNiceGuy - 3/24/2009, 1:24 PM
i would love it if the salvaged this franchise in the next 2 movies...i cant handle anymore spiderman heart aches.

as far as kraven goes, if Jeffrey Dean Morgan converts (to marvel that is) he could do it for sure.
loelife
loelife - 3/24/2009, 1:41 PM
black cat should be the first idea they go with and then go from there with the villians. i would even take gwen as black cat because they don't go by the books and in the movie world it would be something that was already set up. villians though??? i really don't know, i don't trust them with that after venom. the second we all heard a spiderman movie was coming out the first thing we all thought was "hell yeah". and then "venom." everyone, nobody can tell me their second thought wasn't venom. and they killed him. his voice, no tongue, his look, spiderman can take it off and on, no real black suit, and then at the end of the movie, he kept going back to his real face. and i think that the second movie was great, but i have said it before when we had a spiderman 4 news up.......... all of the movies fallow the same format. look at the whole movie and everything goes exactly the same. even the damn cheesy music part in the ends. i don't really like the director. and mj is a bad cast. and i swear she has only called him tiger like once. they have already set up the lizard, i would love to see that. and kraven would be great too, but i don't know exactly how he would work, he doesn't commit crime, he hunts shit, so he would have to be a side villian that was at all of spidey's fights trying to catch him.

howlett, i actually think vin diesel would be a good cast for cyber in the next wolverine movie, in madripoor of course. with a brown costume.

spanky
spanky - 3/24/2009, 1:44 PM
tis the first i've heard of it also, wow what a coincidence.
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 3/24/2009, 1:45 PM
How about Gerrard Butler for Kraven? I like the other ideas too.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 3/24/2009, 1:45 PM
I could see Morgan as Kraven. He can be in it along with another villain. and when they kill him, which they do with every villain, someone can say "Tonight a Kravinoff died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows..." If they did the Chameleon, I could see another Watchmen actor, Jackie Haley to play as him.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 3/24/2009, 1:52 PM
Honestly they could bring Gobby back. He died in the same way as he did in the comics, so they could easily bring him back. And if they did he could KILL GWEN STACY!

Oh and Kigpin can't be in a Spidey film. FOX owns the rights for him in movies. Unless FOX & Sony decidedto reach an agreement to alow a crossover. But in a few years if DD 2 is not made the rights go back to Marvel.
Talontd
Talontd - 3/24/2009, 2:27 PM
METALHEAD-

I've said it before and i'll say it again, TOPHER GRACE should have always been SPIDERMAN!!! But no use crying over spilled milk.
MisterNiceGuy
MisterNiceGuy - 3/24/2009, 2:32 PM
yea i agree talon he would have been a better Peter Parker than Eddie Brock. idk what they were thinking, but when i picture a live action Eddie Brock i picture Biff from back to the future. He should have been a big meathead NOT a skinny wise ass Eric Forman.
Betty
Betty - 3/24/2009, 2:47 PM
spidey should reboot. Cosmic Spiderman.
Betty
Betty - 3/24/2009, 2:53 PM
I think Javier Bardem would bring the fear with kraven.
Galvatron
Galvatron - 3/24/2009, 2:55 PM
Does no one want to see Carnage. Maybe getting him right would atone for screwing up Venom. Doc Oct should definately come back, one movie for spidey's arch nemesis is not enough. Did he really die, or did his arms protect him from the underwater blast?
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/24/2009, 3:14 PM
In the 3rd movie theres a poster on Jamesons wall saying "Doc Ock still at large"..so you never know!
SpiderBat209
SpiderBat209 - 3/24/2009, 3:14 PM
Carnage could work if they cast the right psycho to play him. Crispen Glover, maybe?

Gerard Butler as Kraven is a really good idea! Him or WWE's Vladimir Koslov! lol jk
Butler all the way! :)
Crusader
Crusader - 3/24/2009, 3:29 PM
Another thing that was stupid about all the spiderman movies was that each vilian kill themselves. Green Goblin made his own glider stab himself. Doc Oct drowned himself to save the city. Venom jumped into a bomb to save the the suit. Spider never killed or took to jail a villian in any movie. At least in other marvel movies they either went to jail or killed them.

in X-Men more Good guys died and buy guys went to jail.

The only good thing about F4 was that they did not kill of Dr. Doom

Blade was the only one who killed all his enemies.

and the rest. eh
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 3/24/2009, 3:43 PM
@ Crusader. In the comics after Gobby KILLED GWEN He and Spidey fought each other. During the battle Gobby is stabbed by his glider just like in the comics.
MisterNiceGuy
MisterNiceGuy - 3/24/2009, 4:05 PM
ben foster plays a good psycho for carnage. but he has already had a shot at marvel.
satanors
satanors - 3/24/2009, 4:21 PM
I want to see spider man and daredevil(early days) vs Sinister six.
Joker1zero
Joker1zero - 3/24/2009, 4:25 PM
Mickey Rourke wouldn't make a good Kraven the Hunter...I dunno who would but it ain't him.
Galvatron
Galvatron - 3/24/2009, 4:45 PM
@ Rorschach, thanks i forgot about that, Doc Oct shall return!!
ThisFan
ThisFan - 3/24/2009, 5:11 PM
mickey wouldnt work for kraven
i cant think of someone who would fit for kraven but its gotta be someone else in my opinion

also they never found doc oct's corpse thats why it says still at large
Gose
Gose - 3/24/2009, 5:19 PM
Mickey Rourke is "TOMBSTONE" the big man MR. LINCOLN
Gose
Gose - 3/24/2009, 5:32 PM
Mickey Rourke could be HAMMERHEAD... time for spidey fight new york organized crime syndicate...
shibazz
shibazz - 3/24/2009, 5:49 PM
@ SpiderMan209 thank you for reminding me of Vladimir Koslov the wrestler ... i was watching him the other night and if he lost like 20 pounds he would be and INcredible NAMOR!
and to be honest Gerard Butler has my vote for Kraven and still the Rock does too.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 3/24/2009, 6:53 PM
WHO PLAYED THE COMEDIAN IN WATCHMEN?HE COULD PLAY KRAVEN..YOU KNOW SAM RAIMI, YOU CAN INTRO THE LIZARD AND KRAVEN COMES IN TO HUNT HIM, SPIDEY GETS IN THE WAY BECAUSE ITS HIS TEACHER AND A FAMILY MAN BIG FIGHT BIG FIGHT.
FalconX2
FalconX2 - 3/24/2009, 7:06 PM
"YOU KNOW SAM RAIMI, YOU CAN INTRO THE LIZARD AND KRAVEN COMES IN TO HUNT HIM"

This is what I was expecting when the rumors of Kraven came up. It's time for the Lizard, and Sam Raimi is just the man to make him f'n scary.
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