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Top Ten Most Inaccurate Live Action Super Villain Costumes

You guys have asked to see my Worst Hero and Best Villain costume choices. . . here's a combination of both.
Here are the criteria for this list:

1) Costume deviated so far from the source material (at the time), it’s hard to figure out who is being portrayed.
2) Has a hard time translating on screen.
3) Again, it has to be a person in a costume; 100% CGI doesn’t count (Galactus/cloud in FF2)
4) Disappoint the hell out of me when I see it.

* I’ll state again, these are not my personal favorites for the list, they are the ones that I feel are the most inaccurate.

So here they are, the worst of the worst:

10) The Penguin



Flippers and black blood. 'Nuff said.


9) Mr. Freeze



He looks like the love child of Dr. Manhattan and Optimus Prime.


8) Bullseye



Trench coats are not always the best costume choice (see reference: Smallville)


7) Red Skull



I guess Red Skull might have worn a latex jacket some times. Perhaps it was Domination Tuesday? That would explain the smile.


6) Juggernaut



I don't have the words.


5) Dark Phoenix



What the hell is with the trench coat shtick?


4) Green Goblin



Go, Go Power Goblin!


3) Dracula (Blade Trinity)



Again. . . trench coat. It's like a security blanket for costume designers.

3) Blackheart



Horrible. Just. . horrible. The worst part is that it had so much potential.


1) The Octopus



You take a villain that, after 60 years, has never shown his face and you. . . show his face. Largest deviation by far. To top it off, who would have known it he looked like Nick fury in drag all along?


That's where my list stands. I don't think I forgot any, but I'm sorry if one slipped my mind. If yours goes a little different, feel free to post it below. Remember, if we're going to try comparing lists, you should follow similar criteria. How much you dislike the costume has nothing to do with it; it's all about the accuracy.





5 Yes
6 No
MultiPurposePoni
11/16/2009

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222 Comments

i like the dark phoenix one :)
lc - 11/16/2009, 10:05 AM
Blackheart was always the most disappointing to me. Alot of those movies up there are pretty bad, so i'm not suprised that most of the costumes sucked.
supermarioworldE - 11/16/2009, 10:05 AM
I dont think the Penguin deserves to be in the list :P

Good job tho :P

Dracula was the worst interpretation :(
teabag - 11/16/2009, 10:07 AM
Bullseye and Green Goblin are by far the most disappointing for me especially as both of their costumes could have worked brilliantly onscreen!!!
JoshW - 11/16/2009, 10:08 AM
@teabag: Again I say. . . flippers and black blood. Show me that in a mainstream Batman comic and I'll retract my choice.
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:09 AM
I disagree with 2 of the entries on the list

1 Mr Freeze - Disappointing Yes, but he does look like
like Mr Freeze (IMHO)

2 Bullseye - Opposite of above, Yes he doesn't look like Bullseys from the comic, but I thought that he was a pretty good villian and not disappointing at all, they did a good job on him (IMHO)

You should have put Wilson Fisk aka The Kingpin from Daredevil on the list instead of Bullseye
YogiDonnie - 11/16/2009, 10:13 AM
TOP 3 "PERSONAL" WORST?

1. GREEN GOBLIN (IT COULDA WORKED "FAITHFULLY")
2. BULLSEYE
3. JUGGERNAUT (HE LOOKED AS CHESSY AS A WRESTLER ON "RAW")
dellamorte1872 - 11/16/2009, 10:13 AM
all of the above. XD
Aki87 - 11/16/2009, 10:16 AM
Alright i'm slow but in the comics the penguin had hands and in the movie he had flippers?
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 10:16 AM
When does black Blood foaming from mouth come under costume?...so were left with flippers....so thats a small detail in which Doc Doom could be added instead :P
teabag - 11/16/2009, 10:17 AM
Also, Black Heart is wearing a...Trenchcoat! Trenchcoat used to be badass, but they're losing thier style.
AxlKomix - 11/16/2009, 10:18 AM
@Yogi: Kingpin was a close tie for #10. Mr Freeze's costume was so overdone it barely resembled him in the comics. And I have yet to read a Daredevil comic where Bullseye wore a silvery trench coat and a goatee

@teabag: It's part of the costume because it was part of the makeup. Just my opinion.

@Axl: I didn't want to mention it again, but you're very right.
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:18 AM
and why isn't The Absorbing Man from the Hulk movie on the list, or do you consider that CGI? I mean nobody knows who in the Heck even today who Nick Nolte was suppose to be.
YogiDonnie - 11/16/2009, 10:19 AM
Scarecrow was less inspred from the comics than Penguin!!?? :P...i understand its your opinion but it feels like your missing some megga trafisties lol
teabag - 11/16/2009, 10:20 AM
ya the green goblin costume sucked
Comickid65 - 11/16/2009, 10:20 AM
@Yogi: He was on my original list! But, in reality, he wasn't the Absorbing Man he was David Banner with the AM's powers. I tried to make him fit into the list, but he can't. If I had found ONE piece of evidence where the studio had called him the Absorbing Man, he would have been #3.

@teabag: Actually, I totally forgot about Scarecrow! Sorry for that one, thanks for reminding me!
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:21 AM
This is the most interesting non-news there is. Thanks for keeping things alive, MPP, until something comes up!
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 10:21 AM
@MultiPurposePon

I do believe his action figure was called the Absorbing Man
YogiDonnie - 11/16/2009, 10:23 AM
@Phin: Thanks man! I'm just trying to keep it interesting

@Yogi: Excellent! If you can find me a picture, I'll update the article
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:23 AM
KINGPIN IS TOTALLY UP THERE TOO @YOGI. I HATE WHEN A FILM CONVENIANTLY CHANGES ETHNICITY. (G.I JOE? MORON WAYANS). BUT BULLSEYE WAS HORRIBLE TOO. THEY "CHANGED" HOW BULLSEYE LOOKED FOR THE FILM DEBUT. MAKE HIM MORE "REALISTIC/MODERN" BUT THEY COULDNT TIME THE CHANGE RIGHT TO REALLY COINICIDE WITH THE FILM. AND WHEN THEY DID...(SINCE I "PERSONALLY" FEEL B/C THE FILM TANKED!) IT ONLY KINDA BECAME HOW BULLSEYE LOOKS OUTTA THE BULLSEYE COSTUME. BEFORE HIS "HAWKEYE PHASE" BUT THEY REALLY TOOK BULLSEYE OUT OF A "UNIQUE" COSTUME THAT COULDA WORKED DECENTLY ON FILM, INSTEAD THE "EVIL DUSTER LOOK IS BORN". I FELT LIKE THIS "CHANGE" TOOK ME OUT OF THE FILM, AND HELPED CONTRIBUTE TO ME HATING IT AS MUCH AS I DO.

DAREDEVIL, FANTASTIC FOUR AND GHOST RIDER CAN ALL BE PORTRAYED RATHER FAITHFULLY ON FILM. (BULLSEYE "PERSONALLY" REMINDS ME OF TOMMY LEE JONES IN THAT GOD AWEFUL BATMAN FOREVER SCHUMACHER SHIT FEST)
dellamorte1872 - 11/16/2009, 10:24 AM
Good list, I happen to like how they dealt with Juggernaut's costume
davidzuck - 11/16/2009, 10:24 AM
I actually loved BULLSEYE & PENGUIN!!

Good stuff but theres a lot worst than these, well apart from BlackHeart that was bad lol!!!

An Rubber suit Vinnie!
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 10:25 AM
MY COMPLAINT WITH SCARECROW IS NOW THAT HES NO LONGER AN "OFFICIAL" DOCTOR LET HIM GRAB HIS CLASSIC SCYTHE LOL
dellamorte1872 - 11/16/2009, 10:26 AM
@LEEE: Which ones did I miss bud?
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:26 AM
Multi@ no probs....i just thought there were worse out there thats all lol.....you could break it down to minor details in which Doc Ock wasnt wearing his Green lycra lol or that Deacon frost wasnt wearing a white wig with a beard and wearing the right suite or Sabretooth....or Lady Deathstrike.....and so on :P

Im kranky today sorry lol :P
teabag - 11/16/2009, 10:27 AM
I LIKED THE PENGUIN...F THE OTHER ONES
GUNSMITH - 11/16/2009, 10:28 AM
Oh, I completely forgot about Doctor Doom - his costume was the worst for me and in fact probably worse than all of the above, lol!
JoshW - 11/16/2009, 10:29 AM
@GUN: I liked the Penguin in Returns as well, but it's not a favorites list.

@Josh: After comparing pics, Doom wasn't as far off his comic costume as you might think. Everything else about him. . . well

@tea: Poor baby :( Maybe FAD will throw out come pics to make you feel better!

Trust me, my list was about 30 characters long at first. It's hard to weed out the worst of the worst when it comes to accuracy since ALL of them are inaccurate.
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:29 AM
I understand that most might disagree with me, but I did not like the Batman Begins version of Ra's al Ghul. Nothing like I would think Ra's al Ghul would be.
YogiDonnie - 11/16/2009, 10:30 AM
I loved the way Burton portrayed the Penguin in Batman Returns. I thought that those differences made him an even better Penguin than the original. I agree to the point that it is not true to the comic, but in this case it wasn't a bad thing.
Azrael83 - 11/16/2009, 10:30 AM
Well top of my head lol. MAGNETO really hate that outfit, totally lame, and the helmet was horrible.

I'll hav'ta have a think 'the others lol! ; D
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 10:31 AM
@joshw24

Is it just me or is the unreleased version of the FF movie from the 90s have a much better Dr Doom?
YogiDonnie - 11/16/2009, 10:31 AM
@LEEE: What you like or dislike is irrelevant to the list, bud. We're talking inaccuracies

@Yogi: It's just as bad.
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:32 AM
Some deviations are in order from the comic books. I firmly believe this. Yet some WTF moments on the interpretations are in order. I hated Bullseye's scarring on the forehead. Just stupid. Kingpin is good example of unnecessary multicultural accomadating deviation.

MPP you're right about the trench coat cheats, but other than that, how would you translate some of these villians into the media of film? Would you keep them pure to the exact classic comicbook vision, or would you allow for some change?
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 10:32 AM
DR DOOM WAS QUITE PATHETIC ON FILM, AGAIN...FANTASTIC FOUR, DAREDEVIL, AND GHOST RIDER CAN ALL BE AMAZING FILMS IF PORTRAYED ACCURETLY
dellamorte1872 - 11/16/2009, 10:33 AM
@joshw24

Is it just me or is the unreleased version of the FF movie from the 90s have a much better Dr Doom?
YogiDonnie - 11/16/2009, 10:34 AM
Multi@ there are more differances between Doctor doom than Penguin!!!!....i need more meds....again tho Lady Deathstrike and Sabretooth should be included.:P

FAD couldnt get me out of the pain im in now lol

Yogi@ yes the 90's Doc Doom was more true to the comics
teabag - 11/16/2009, 10:34 AM
@Phin: I think that if the studios don't try it once or twice, who's to say it won't translate?

I HATE hearing 'spandex won't work' or 'you HAVE to modernize it'. . . why?

If it's been tried before, and proven as a failure, then that's a valid argument. If it hasn't been tried, how can anyone reasonably argue the point?

@teabag: Lady Deathstrike was on my original list. But after some research I found that the movie character from 2003 looks like the Ultimate version of her from 2002. So it was actually pretty accurate.
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:34 AM
Pyro lol Blob :P

What about Sabretooth and deacon Frost? is there an Ultimate version that saves them lol
teabag - 11/16/2009, 10:36 AM
ABOMINATION (Does that count?), MYSTIQUE, DEADPOOL, i'm still thinking lol!!
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 10:37 AM
Spandex will totally work.

Man, I hope Deadpool's movie costume doesn't bl0w.

Could we get some Fad cleavage!
ElBicho - 11/16/2009, 10:38 AM
MULTI: Lol, I think my hatred for generally how badly the character was portrayed blinded me to that small fact!
JoshW - 11/16/2009, 10:38 AM
How was MAGNETO accurate???
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 10:39 AM
Screw you guys, the Green Goblin was awesome.

Stop pickin' on the movies....be nice. And Mr. Freeze wasn't that bad.

I don't like this article. Erase it. :'(

Lol you have a point though. Most of them are amazingly innaccurate
Fartman - 11/16/2009, 10:41 AM
@teabag: Deacon was around #12 or #13 for me. And, yes, Sabertooth from X-O:W looks like the Ultimate one.

@LEEE: No to Abomination (the rules state no CGI). You're missing the point, it's not that he WAS accurate, but he wasn't INACCURATE enough to compete with the top ten.

I won't put the X-O:W take of Deadpool on ANY list I make. There is a line I do not cross, and that is it.

But if you insist, I'll add it to the list
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 10:41 AM
Good ones, Multi ;)

Personally, Magneto's outfit could be a tie with Mr. Freeze's. Cool, but not quite LOL :P
Shaman - 11/16/2009, 10:41 AM
Josh/LEEE@ Doc Doom /Magneto still had more inacurasies than Penguin lol :P

One track teabag :P

Multi@ yeah bit since Deacon looks nothing like the comics how did he rate that bad? :P
teabag - 11/16/2009, 10:41 AM
wheres Venom from Spider-Man 3 or even Barakapool LOL

Barakapool (Deadpool) should be number 1

jazzman - 11/16/2009, 10:45 AM
Although they was a good change you have = ZOD and co in SUPERMAN II, wont go into SMALLVILLE lol, too many to list! : D
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 10:45 AM
Yep @ JAZZ @ Agreed!!!
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 10:47 AM
From a marketing standpoint, your're right. I can not think of any film ( I thought of one after writing this) where the villian donned spandex. I also know that in preproduction costume trials, various costumes that bore spandex were attempted in different films.

I am not arguing right or wrong, but speaking from the point that the film has to please a variety of people before it even hits the screen. I don't see how them wearing it, and be believably real is possible. In order to explain why he does that, you would have to spend time on explaining his origins as you would the hero.

Here's one example of spandex not working:



Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 10:47 AM
Lol @ MULTI!!
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 10:49 AM
Deadpool should be number 1 on here. By far.

Penguin in no way deserves to be on this list - he looks fcuking dead on - Devito was born to play that fcuker. je$us - I sense some Batman loathing here. Freeze was pretty good too man - aside from the horrid acting - the look was great.

Keven - 11/16/2009, 10:50 AM
PHINEHAS @ Um THATS NOT SPANDEX!!!!!!!!!!!


SPIDER-MAN movies have proved SPANDEX can and will work on film, look at [frick]ing SPIDEY!
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 10:50 AM
Not only are trench coats a safe haven for lazy costume designers they're also easily rationalized by even lazier directors! observe:
"the coat makes him seem like a rough and tumble hero"
"it shows that he's a rebel that plays by his own rules!"
"trench coats = evil, it's the goatee of the new millennium!" etc.

And thanks for pointing out black heart. As a GR fan that was some weak crap they pulled.
hgmE - 11/16/2009, 10:51 AM
Agree with everyone that said Bullseye, absolutely no reason for that crap !

While disappointed with Juggernaut, kinda knew it was coming. To do it right would have meant CGI which probably would have inflated the budget too much.

SkunkApe1 - 11/16/2009, 10:52 AM
Penguin was wearing a diaper.
MsKyle08 - 11/16/2009, 10:52 AM
Actually, i think the most innacurate hasn't happened yet. Rose McGowan as Red Sonja will rake in the win ;P Cause... well... Red Sonja's supposed to be gorgeous, not gag-provoking.

But i voted for Blackheart since... DUH just look at them!!! I mean, at least Octupus had "shade" which leaves to interpretation.

I think a FAD vs. TaffetaDarling "honey-pool wrestling match" would be pretty accurate right now, wouldn't y'all??? MsKyle and InstigatorGIRL can be the "hands-on" Refs ;P
Shaman - 11/16/2009, 10:54 AM
I picked Blackheart for one reason above The Octopus only... The Octopus in comics is a person, and is portrayed by a person in the movie. Blackheart is a demon created of the amalgamated energy of evil that is not represented as a human in the comic book (and to the best of my knowledge has never been shown to take form as one), but is represented as a human in the movie. He's the son of Mephisto, not born of human decent.

This makes not just my worst representation/costume list, but shittiest cop-out for using CGI or FX for a movie, more than likely to save on the effects budget. Other than that, this is a really well thought out list.

And yeah,t he Green Goblin costume pisses me off but even worse was Harry Osbourn coming back as the Green Goblin in an even shittier costume.

Norman should have had the latex mask to show off Dafoe's wicked-sinister grin, and Franco should have been The Hobgoblin in another latex mask.

Shitty all around for those movies.
gtrman - 11/16/2009, 10:54 AM
GTRMAN-I SO AGREE WITH U ON THAT GOBLIN MASK FOR DAFOE...GEEZ WHAT A WASTE HUH?
GUNSMITH - 11/16/2009, 10:58 AM
COBRA COMMANDER IN THE JOE MOVIE..HIS MASK...THAT WAS A SLAP IN THE FACE JACK MOVE THERE..I WAS LIKE WTF.
GUNSMITH - 11/16/2009, 11:00 AM
gtrman-
But Harry wasn't Hobby in the comics. Why would you do that?

LEEE, what then is Carrey wearing if not spandex? Apparently you are far more familiar with the fashion designer arts than I.
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 11:02 AM
in all fairness, the bullseye costume in the movie was based off the costume/street clothes that bullseye is wearing when daredevil carves the bullseye in his head in the comics. so he's actually worn that.
CorndogBurglar - 11/16/2009, 11:05 AM
I thought I was the only one who thought the Juggernaut's costume looked horrible. WTF? What were they thinking?
sketch7eleven - 11/16/2009, 11:06 AM
P.S. Oh and I liked the Burton/Penguin.
sketch7eleven - 11/16/2009, 11:06 AM
The Penguin should not be on the list, because he is instantly recognizable and there are other characters that deviate much more form the source than him, some to the point of not being recognizable at all for example: Magneto an old man with a ridiculous plastic helmet a trench coat and having no metal in his clothes; Callisto a tattoo instead of an eye patch, weird but no spiky hair and possessing Caliban powers instead of hers; Deadpool has katanas incrusted in his arms and a sew mouth; and finally Sabertooth who is neither blond, nor muscular or gigantic (Besides, he also wears a trench coat).
Verdugo - 11/16/2009, 11:07 AM
Ok, CDB. That would have been cool if he had carved the bullseye in his head later in the film. But that is how he met him...already carved.
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 11:08 AM
@Phinehas
I know he wasn't Hobby, and therein lays the problem. As long as the movies are screwing things around, Make Harry the Hobgoblin and mix it up a bit. There was no Ned Leeds, but seeing the Hobgoblin on film would have been really cool, especially with the tanned mask and tattered costume.
gtrman - 11/16/2009, 11:08 AM
PHINEHAS @ SPANDEX is a type of RUBBER, that RIDDLER outfit, is a type of Ballet dancing material costume, it ain't Spandex dude!

SPIDER-MAN costumes SPANDEX!
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 11:09 AM
I don't even want to know how you know that...
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 11:10 AM
Im glad im not the only one who thinks Penguin was more Accurate than others out there :)
teabag - 11/16/2009, 11:10 AM
SEX SHOPS and the missus!!! ; D
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 11:13 AM
"Kingpin is good example of unnecessary multicultural accomadating deviation" That has nothing to do with the subject, only race. Keep race the hell outta here. Outfits only.
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 11:13 AM
love the penguin, dont mind bulls eyes.

i like the goblin out fit, but would prefer to see him the way he was meant to look like.

i hated black heart, but not as much as ghost riders take on satan,

but my personal vote does go to blade trinty, if they had not called him dracula, he would have made a good charactor, but come on he was nothing like dracula,

on that note, there was that film dracula 2000, i think there take on dracula was dioballical.

oh and lets not forget van helsings dracula, that was even worse.

gary oldmans version , will never be beaten,
Rolanddeschain19 - 11/16/2009, 11:14 AM
I think JUGGERNAUT is the worst because even though the costume isn't the MOST inaccurate, the STUPID FLIPPIN' fake rubbery muscles puts him over the top!!!!!!

I can't get over those fake muscles.

I'm the first to balk at the idea of casting wrestlers in super hero roles but Juggy only had, like, two lines anyway. They could've easily cast some huge dopey wrassler with actual big muscles to play him.

But NO, instead they cast Vinnie Jones, a guy who CAN act, give him almost NO lines, and put dumb fake foam muscles on his skinny a$$! AAAARGH!
gibbyblaylock - 11/16/2009, 11:16 AM
omfg this is a tough decision! Those are all terrible.

I want to vote for the Dark Phoenix one but here's the thing about that:
Her outfit is the very LEAST of the problems with how they did that character in the movie. I mean really what difference does the outfit make when they ruined the character in every concievable way? Some of which is way way more crucial than her costume.

It's the same with Blackheart. Blackheart is a relatively obscure character. He hasn't appeared in very many comics but he was interesting and cool. Wes bentley is about as intimidating as Don Knotts. He looks like an whiney emo, and NONE of the essence of the character of Blackheart is preserved in themovie version.

Juggernuat: I guess they did their best. But Ratner's inability to concieve of a super powered non mutant in a movie about mutants just nullified the whole attempt from the getgo. Rubber muscles and S & M gear are just no substitute for the indestructible field and limitless strength having Juggernaut we all know and love. It could have been SO MUCH MORE.

&
Last but not least

DRACULA! Horror fans are going to be upset with me for saying this but Marvel's Dracula was the coolest ever in terms of powers, personality, etc. It was like everything I ever wanted but was denied by lackluster vampire movies etc.. what would have been the harm in patterning the one in Blade more like that Marvel's excelent version??

Decisions, decisions....
SixSixteen - 11/16/2009, 11:18 AM
I agree, DEADPOOL should be up there fo' shizzle.
gibbyblaylock - 11/16/2009, 11:18 AM
Or does Deadpool not count as a villain??
gibbyblaylock - 11/16/2009, 11:18 AM
@scetch7eleven i would imagine most people on here hated juggernault and his out fit, personally i like vinny as juggernault,

i mean having him wear a helmet like in the comic book would just look stupid,

but i think im in the minorty on that
Rolanddeschain19 - 11/16/2009, 11:19 AM
DarthMulder@ Im like one of the biggest Tomb of Dracula fans and im 100% with ya :P

( im doing a fan cast on this aswell ) :P
teabag - 11/16/2009, 11:20 AM
@darthmulder out of curiosity have you seen bram stokes dracula
Rolanddeschain19 - 11/16/2009, 11:22 AM
@gibby - Deadpool is a hero....I think. Mercenary is a pretty gray area.
hgmE - 11/16/2009, 11:29 AM
deadpool and galactus ftw
lvlheaded - 11/16/2009, 11:31 AM
Talking of fan casts...Check out my Spider-Man: Sinister Six Fan Cast!!! :)

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=11928
JoshW - 11/16/2009, 11:32 AM
hahaha see? Here we go.

Yes I have. That's the closest, and it's very cool. I realize also the Dracula in that movie is also very similar to the one depicted in Bram Stoker's perrenial classic novel. Perhaps the most accurate of all time in that regard.

But I still just like Marvel's better.

SixSixteen - 11/16/2009, 11:41 AM
To those who want evidence of why Barakapool isn't on the list, I'll say this:

In his favor

- He didn't wear any form of costume in X-O:W, he wore hospital pants just like Scott Summers and Emma Frost did. Since he didn't wear a costume, you can't compare the differences to mainstream Deadpool's costume.

- He had facial scarring similar to the comic.

Against his favor:

- Swords out of his arms

- Surgical drawings on his torso

That's really all that's relevant to the costume accuracy debate. I'm not looking at the interpretation of the character's origins or their powers.

Like I said before, this isn't a popularity contest, whether I like the character or not is irrelevant. But if you want to know how I pesonally feel, X-O:W Deadpool is the WORST TRANSLATED COMIC CHARACTER I'VE EVER SEEN!
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 11:45 AM
@MultiPurposePoni: interpretation of the character's origins or their powers. That should be the next one
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 11:52 AM
@hgmE

Deadpool was a bad guy in X-Origins Wolverine but his basically a anti-hero.

also to the people who keep on mentioning Kingpin race are just getting stupid. this is about Live Action Super Villain Costumes nothing to do with the character "RACE" at all.

plus Kingpin was played by a white actor cause their is no white actor out there with the height and weight of the character.
jazzman - 11/16/2009, 11:52 AM
@jazzman: Thank you race has no standing here, and yes i picked out one comment. If you make fun of someone who reads comic's he get's run-outta the web-site? Funny how this works. Can't poke fun at a comic reader but RACE is okay? That's real funny

And if you forgot or conviently forgot here it is again

"Kingpin is good example of unnecessary multicultural accomadating deviation"
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 11:58 AM
@MisterUnderhill: How would a trench coat disqualify a character from an inaccurate costume list?

@SHHH: That was the same reason I didn't put Kingpin on the list. The costume was spot on, the actor wasn't.

I was thinking about doing a Worst Overall Character Translation list. . . but when I looked at all the characters to choose from blood started gushing out of my ears
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 11:58 AM
SHHH-
We also mentioned Bullseye's scarring. That's not an outfit, why didn't you quote that? Also, other physical appearances were mentioned such as Penguin's flippers. That didn't seem to bother you either. One might argue that someone's race is a costume in and of itself. Grow-up, Nancy.
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 11:59 AM
Yeah can you u imagine how cool it would have been if they would have at least given Blackheart perhaps an alt mode where he looks like he's supposed to to?

A malleable body that falls about like goo when he gets beaten down but then just pulls itself back together. Like evil black gelatinous bile with spines and a tail.... man that would have been cool.

And while we are on the subject, let's just go ahead and go there: as scary as peter Fonda was as Mephisto, I can't help but wish we could have gotten even just a quick glimpse of his true insidious monstrous form instead of just looking like a yelling corpse when he gets mad.
SixSixteen - 11/16/2009, 12:00 PM
I'm confused. Isn't it showing black blood in the Penguin comic picture? or is that just shadows?
stalepie - 11/16/2009, 12:00 PM
Quit twisting words i said RACE.
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 12:01 PM
@Phin: Bullseye DID have that scar in the comics, though. Daredevil gave it to him.

My problem is that he had it in the movie before he even met Daredevil. Stupid, yes. But not relevant to the list IMO
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 12:01 PM
Dark Phoenix's looks better than the comic.
stalepie - 11/16/2009, 12:03 PM
Made the point already, MPP. Thanks for pointing it out again to the sensitive infants.
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 12:04 PM
You have no point! Keep RACE the frick outta here don't like it 2 damn bad! INFANT!
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 12:08 PM
@Phin: Cool. I'll keep out of your debate now ;)
MultiPurposePoni - 11/16/2009, 12:09 PM
Are you 12 years old, SHHH?
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 12:10 PM
lolololol Bullseye wants a bloody costume.. but alas gets none.

You know I have a very nice leather trench coat which I can no longer wear because of all these movies with all these trench coat wearing villians. That sux

SixSixteen - 11/16/2009, 12:12 PM
Penguin does not deserve to be on the list what so ever. his costume was a masterpiece. Green Goblin was fine with me as well. U have to remember for the movie he is right the glider and the helmet was to give him aerodynamics kind of like The Rocketeer
LaffaTaffa - 11/16/2009, 12:14 PM
@Phinehas

what you talking about "One might argue that someone's race is a costume"

last time i check costume refer to wardrobe, dress and style nothing to do with a person skin colour.

if thats the case might aswell complain about Two-Face/Harvey Dent been played by a black man, Catwoman been played by two black women, Agent Zero been played by a asian man.
jazzman - 11/16/2009, 12:16 PM
R.I.P Edward Woodward
teabag - 11/16/2009, 12:16 PM
MPP, I didn't even want to debate, but SHHH has appointed himself censor of the room. I was merely trying to qualify my point against an ad hoc response.
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 12:17 PM
You have no point! Keep RACE the frick outta here don't like it 2 damn bad! INFANT!
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 12:18 PM
@teabag

Edward Woodward died damn R.I.P.

jazzman - 11/16/2009, 12:22 PM
JOSH @ Lol! : D

Talking of fan casts...Guys, check out my DC COMICS: KINGDOM COME Fan Cast!!! :)

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/001/news/?a=11895

; D

LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 12:22 PM
Easily solved, jazzman. When developing the character's to the film, the director and those involved, chose to "dress" the character in a certain appearance.

And would it make you feel better that I don't like that they changed those characters too? If the comics changed it, such as Ultimates Nick Fury, I don't mind. That is where changes are permitted to be made. But when filmmakers do it without REALLY good reason, I feel I'm getting a lesson from the Multicultural rule book.
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 12:22 PM
Bullseye - Good interpritation. Juggernaut - Good interpritation. Jean Grey/ Pheonix - Really Good interpritation... Get the point? For [frick] sake - Im probably one of the biggest geeks on here, I love my comics,cartoons, video games etc...- but [frick] - Im also a normal guy with a good job and a beautiful fiance, who thinks that if costumes happen to differ between page and screen - SO WHAT? It's called artistic licence! Complaining that the X-Men all wore black??? You'd be the first mother[frick]ers to complain if Hugh Jackman turned up in a yellow spandex suit with his clobber on display. Look at Heath Ledger's Joker - Not pound for pound the same as a lot of the comics - but an Oscar winning portrayal nontheless. [frick]ing grow up and think of something more important to argue about, i.e, for my fellow British - keeping the [frick]ing tax-haven Tories out, and for the countless Yanks on here - supporting Obama's universal Healthcare plan, and hopefully deciding to put your guns away once and for all, before Columbine 6... Caedus137 - Educated English lad; sick to death of [frick]ing braindead obese Americans, out. xxx
Caedus137 - 11/16/2009, 12:23 PM
I agree with LaffaTaffa

and with what someone said earlier

Deadpool should be #1
SGA - 11/16/2009, 12:23 PM
I think the reason that didn't go with a white dude for Kingpin is because they couldn't find a white actor that was big enough. The director probably said to his people "ok let's find the best and at the same time the largest actor we can find"

Duncan is a huge man, tall, fat, and incredibly muscular just like the Kingpin. Duncan is also a hell of an actor so they just decided not to sweat the race issue. No problem there.

But on the other hand all the race baitors would be knocking themselves out trying to scream racism if they had got a white girl to play Storm so... I guess maybe it's a multi faceted issue.
SixSixteen - 11/16/2009, 12:25 PM
You should of never brought it up. Just like when someone makes fun of a comic reader, ya'll run him/her outta here, but race is okay. Btw, Actually my black son is 12 who did u know?
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 12:25 PM
That Juggernaut one really pissed me off. Especially the helmet.
Joker1Zero - 11/16/2009, 12:27 PM
Caedus: Yes they were interpretations. Bad ones.
SixSixteen - 11/16/2009, 12:27 PM
LEE: LMAO! :D

I wonder why they didnt give Bullseye a costume...? I guess it could be because his and DD's costumes are quite similar but the above outfit just looks crap! ;(
JoshW - 11/16/2009, 12:27 PM
It would have been a non-issue had you not responded to it the way you did, SHHH. Maybe you have some latent racism in yourself (as well as immaturity) to be as sensitive as you are.

"Btw, Actually my black son is 12 who did u know?"

Huh??
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 12:28 PM
Ya know a trench coat would have made Mr. Freeze look better. It would have hidden all that whatever he was wearing.
Number21 - 11/16/2009, 12:28 PM
JOSH @ Heh heh! ; D
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 12:30 PM
You should do a list of "Dishonorable Mentions" ((Including Callisto and "New Goblin")) as well as most accurate villain and most inaccurate hero lists.
JJMeylar - 11/16/2009, 12:30 PM
In response to the comments made about the continual use of trench coats(which I'm not disagreeing on), I think that it should be taken into account that when some of these movies are made, and some of the source material contains certain items/clothing that may not translate well to the screen, the trench coat is a logical choice. I'm not really sure how I would feel if they were to throw Dominic Purcell into a giant cape as he walks down the street. Bullseye I think was just a poor costume choice, but as I have said before on this site, what makes a great CBM to me, especially when the film makers are truly trying to ground the film in reality(which usually equates into a better quality flick), you really can't expect straight up spandex, or long flowing capes, or even crazy masks for that matter. In order to make the unrealistic(certain traits that work in comics and on the page) realistic(seeing them on film in real life), certain compromises HAVE to be made in order to translate characters and their costumes to the big screen.
Listen, I would love to see certain characters portrayed as faithfully as possible and exactly as you remember them from the pages of a comic book or graphic novel, but some shit just DOESN'T WORK and ISN'T BELIEVABLE. If you want crazy, out there costumes, then the setting being shown to us on film has to lead us to believe that it is taking place in a world where someone, like Wolverine for example, wouldn't be made fun of on the street and get his ass whooped for wearing straight up yellow spandex. Some could work(see the Fantastic Four films), some couldn't(X-Men films). Lots of times, it's more about the essence of the character and the way they are portrayed onscreen that matters most(Jackman as Wolverine) rather than whether they are wearing an iconic mask. Although sometimes film makers can contradict themselves by nailing the character, but totally f*cking up the costume(Green Goblin).
As for the race thing, when it comes down to it, I'm not a racist person at all, but I have to say, especially when it comes to CBM fans that want to see their favorite characters portrayed as faithfully as possible onscreen, it IS a big deal at times. Daredevil was screwed from jump street, but still, seeing Michael Clarke Duncan play The Kingpin, I was like, "HUH?!". Bottom line, one should think back to the casting rumors that were going around when they brought up Will Smith's name for Captain America. Is he a good actor? Yes. A box office draw? Yes. Would he have been accepted as Cap? You tell me...

Lastly, as for one of my least favorite CBM interpretations? They really shit the bed with the first interpretation of Sabretooth. Just sayin'
Banner123 - 11/16/2009, 12:30 PM
Banner @ Is that a pair of TITS with HULK!!!

LMAO! ; D
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 12:33 PM
Thank you for the well articulated response Banner123. Sheesh!
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 12:35 PM
@Phinehas

the film makers gave a good reason why they changed Kingpin. they said the reason why Kingpin played by a black actor Michael Clarke Duncan is because he resembled the character's intimidating stature. they did not want a white actor to put a body suit on cause it looks stupid plus they tried to find a white actor who looks like Kingpin but their is no white actors in Hollywood with the same stature as Kingpin.

Multicultural rule book sounds abit ignorant to me. look how many white actors in Hollywood been playing asian, black, latinos, etc.

this is only about costume and nothing about race. if this was about race of comic book characters then thats something else but this is about Super Villain costumes "END OF STORY".

@Banner123

that rumor of Will Smith playing Captain America was false plus their is a Captain America that is black too his name is Isaiah Bradley aka Black Captain America. so if Will Smith was going to play the character he could play Isaiah Bradley.
jazzman - 11/16/2009, 12:35 PM
Barakapool can't be on the list because it wasn't the same actor playing both roles!

As for the rest, I can't disagree with any of your choices, MultiPurposePoni. I would, however, have also added teams/movies on there, too. The (new)FF team, X-men (ALL of them heroes and villans), at the top of my list.
necrosage2005 - 11/16/2009, 12:36 PM
Multi- I agree again with your reasonning about Deadpool not being part of the list but in doing so, you'd have to remove Penguin from your list. His costume was spot on except for the "flipper gloves" since he didn't have fingers. This makes his costume way better and accurate than Magneto's or pretty much anyone in an X-film.

Oh and i don't know why so many people were fussin' about Daredevil's outfit (either here or on the other poll) cause it's nowhere near accurate except for his clubs. I love it, but it's not accurate.

Here' another inaccurate one: Dolph Lundgren as He-Man!!! He looked NOTHING like He-Man should've.
Shaman - 11/16/2009, 12:37 PM
@jazzman: Thank you! And have a good day. I'm going back to my infant ways.
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 12:42 PM
"Multicultural rule book sounds abit ignorant to me. look how many white actors in Hollywood been playing asian, black, latinos, etc."

So? If there were supervillian's that were hispanic, black, or asian being played by a white guy I would have said the same thing. Now you're being stupid.

Secondly, I didn't find MCD's performance was all that convincing. So if acting is your premise, then keep working it.

SHHH, admission is the first step in recovery. ;)
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 12:45 PM
I would like to add Abomination from the second Hulk movie. Much to large, and sans goblin ears.
Joeyhavoc - 11/16/2009, 12:46 PM
@ SHHH You do realize this a website about comics right? I've read the comments, and I can't see anything racist in them. It's really starting to seem like you have a personal agenda....or you're just really bored.
Joeyhavoc - 11/16/2009, 12:50 PM
How do you confuse race for clothes? And i'm the infant.
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 12:52 PM
Joeyhavoc, Abomination was CGI'ed. Not a real actor, so it violates rule #3.
necrosage2005 - 11/16/2009, 12:54 PM
@Joeyhavoc

SHHH never mention the comment is racist he mention dont talk about race of a character. this thread is about Super Villain costumes not race.

@Phinehas

"So? If there were supervillian's that were hispanic, black, or asian being played by a white guy I would have said the same thing."

i hold that against you Phinehas


jazzman - 11/16/2009, 12:59 PM
And what's all these comments about french toasts??? "He's got a french toast, a french toast isn't a costume, i hate french toasts, they always use french toasts" WHAT'S ALL THIS HATING ABOUT FRENCH TOASTS?!?!?!?! French toasts are freakin' AWESOME!!!!
Shaman - 11/16/2009, 1:00 PM
@Joeyhavoc: You are right, but the it was titled Worst Costumes, Not Race.
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 1:00 PM
The word "ignorant" in some tyrannical definitions mean, "for those that don't think like me".
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 1:01 PM
My bad. Although the fact that it was CGI makes it even worse. They could have made him look spot-on easily, but decided they knew more then the original creators. And decades of subsequent continuity.
Joeyhavoc - 11/16/2009, 1:01 PM
I dont think the green goblin wasa bad costume. the hobgoblin mask in spiderman 3 looked terrible just silver with ornage eyes. Speaking of spiderman the new goblin costume how the [frick] did that pull back? and where di it go? lol

Legendaryssj - 11/16/2009, 1:03 PM
jazzman, Oh no! Please say you won't!!! NOOOOOooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 1:04 PM
Not to join in the race debate, cause I really don't care either way, but contrary to some comments here, in a lot of earlier comics, Harvey Dent was a black man.

But back to the real point of this thread.
I will maintain, again, that spandex costumes on film do not work. There have been 2, count them, 2 notable exceptions: Superman and Spider-man. I've given the reasons why on a previous post. And really, Spider-man isn't much of an exception. Sure, he looked great in the Raimi movies because of the CGI, and the way he moves, but watch any of the made-for-tv Spider-man's from late 70's, early 80's, and again, he looks rediculous.
As far as examples of it not working, there are dozens of mostly made-for-tv superhero movies in the late 70's and 80's where they dressed in spandex and looked rediculous. Not only does it look silly, but unless the hero is built like a pro wrestler, the spandex just makes them look even skinnier and more out of shape.

But ya, I'm sick of the trenchcoats too...
hescian - 11/16/2009, 1:06 PM
Since this a issue for some

SHHH - 11/16/2009, 1:07 PM
Ahhh...lessons from a pedophile who couldn't say no to rhino-plasti. I can now say I'm enlightened.

If I say enlightened in regard to MJ, does that count as racist remark?
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 1:10 PM
ok i have problems wiv alot of these

1)penguin was fine for gods sake...only whiners wud say that things so small like flippers and black blood ruin the whole costume...it doesnt only the minority complain bout that

2) bullseye was frickin badass!! 'ooh he wore a trenchcoat!' stupid

3) The only problem i had wiv juggernaught that he was so under used i wanted alot more of him..the suit was fine

The rest i agree with
TheLivingWeapon - 11/16/2009, 1:12 PM
@josh , i would presume they intended on making a sequal
but cleary, cause dare devil, did not hit the big time, that clearly was never gonna happen.

i guessing had they had done a number 2, bulls eye would have got his costume, seeing as he actaully did say he wanted one, i guess it was somthing they hoped to build up to
Rolanddeschain19 - 11/16/2009, 1:13 PM
let thelivingweapon bitching begin lol :p
TheLivingWeapon - 11/16/2009, 1:13 PM
I except nothing less from you. I thought the topic was clothes, not the race of people. Maybe it's a bigger issue than i thought?
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 1:20 PM
Why is it your crusade, I wonder? I would have dropped this long ago. But, keep punching. I can go as long as you want.
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 1:22 PM
Why don't we all have some french toasts???
Shaman - 11/16/2009, 1:36 PM
Keep race away simple. It had no standing at all. It was no where near the subject. Where i'm from race is a daily issue, it has no room here. Simple message.




SHHH - 11/16/2009, 1:36 PM
Don't forget Dr. Nip/Tuck... I mean Doom. Were they even trying with this casting? Adrian McMahon. Really? The look was better in the second movie, but McMahon was never even trying.

First FF

Only his acting was scary.

FF2 better suit, same Douche.

The role, or lack there or really made me hate McMahon on a near molecular level.
NERO - 11/16/2009, 1:39 PM
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