Hollywood Insiders React to Studios Claiming Release Dates

Hollywood Insiders React to Studios Claiming Release Dates

Studios are grabbing release dates for a rush of mystery projects. More than 20 superhero movies scheduled through 2020. What are Hollywood insiders saying about this? Click the jump and find out.

By TwistedKingdom - Aug 13, 2014 06:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Comics
Source: HollywoodReporter.com



Disney and Warner Bros. have both released long lists of "untitled" comic book properties. Add Fox and Sony into the mix and we're looking at over 20 superhero pics going into 2020.  In a recent article, Pamela McClintock of The Hollywood Reporter explores the reasons behind the trend.

"It's a pissing contest," says box-office analyst Phil Contrino. "I don't think it's great for the industry as a whole. You want to see diversity in the release calendar instead of everything being scooped up for tentpoles."


As of now, a record 17 untitled superhero movies have been scheduled between 2016 and 2020. Back in March, Fox scheduled an untitled superhero film for July 13, 2018. Four months later Disney claimed July 6, just one week earlier, for an untitled Marvel film.
 

Experts predict one of the films will have to move. Not unlike Warner Bros. moving Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice from May 6, 2016, when it was set to face off with Captain America 3, up a month to March 25. "There will be far less competition", predicts Contrino, who commends Warner for its willingness to release BvS during Easter weekend. It'll actually be a first for a film of that size.
 

The article explains revenue from Time Warner's film division fell 2 percent over the last year. So on August 6, Time Warner CEO Jeff Bewkes promised to "mine DC Entertainment's catalog" to properly leverage its franchises. BvS' move to March 2016 was the first step.

Warner then began reserving dates for a staggering nine untitled DC pics. They also specified dates for J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter spinoffs beginning with Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them in 2016. "It's the new way of doing business," explains Warners distribution chief Dan Fellman.

 


The article states Disney has a hefty seven untitled Marvel projects lined up in addition to seven animation titles. Then there's Star Wars with Episode VII scheduled for December 18 of next year and three more entries in the works. "It's one thing for Disney to do it because it is batting a thousand. For the rest, I don't know," says one rival.

With so many comic book movies on deck, are we in danger of superhero overload? There are three superhero movies set for 2015 - Fox's reboot for The Fantastic Four, Marvel's Ant-Man and The Avengers: Age of Ultron. After 2015? Six superhero movies in 2016. Seven in 2017. Six in 2018.

Disney distribution chief Dave Hollis says, "Making really good movies will allow you to think less about what is around you competitively." Hollis successfully opened Guardians of the Galaxy (August) and Captain America: Winter Soldier (April) outside the usual summer window. He adds, "It also guarantees that people will show up for the brand."

Still, claiming a date so far out can become problematic.

The article points out before The Amazing Spider-Man 2 hit theaters in May, Sony claimed audiences could expect the next two films in 2016 and 2018. But when TASM2 fell short of the TASM1's $757M global haul (part 2 grossed $708M) Sony had to abandon those dates. Instead, they scheduled The Sinister Six for November 2016 and a Spidey-universe female led film for 2017. McClintock calls it "a cautionary tale and a signal that a release date does not equal a movie".

 

"Planting flags is nice and all, but what really matters is big box office," says Rich Greenfield, an analyst for BTIG, a provider of global equity trading. "To me, dating is secondary to quality."

 

What do you think? Should studios be worrying about claiming release dates six years in advance? Let's hear your thoughts below.

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TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 8/13/2014, 6:47 PM
I don't see the problem, to be honest.
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 8/13/2014, 6:49 PM
Holy shit, 17 CBMs in 4 years? I like comic books and even I think that's too much.
ruadh
ruadh - 8/13/2014, 6:51 PM
"Release date does not equal a movie", something I tried to explain when marvel did their big fat announcement but of course I know nothing.
batz11
batz11 - 8/13/2014, 6:51 PM
Sure they'll miss your $ b&y
HAILHYDRA
HAILHYDRA - 8/13/2014, 6:53 PM
Marvel will survive the superhero overload because they have a way of spinning their movies to fit into another genre. Take GOTG for example. Few people would describe it as a superhero film if they didn't know that it belonged to the MCU. I think FOX will get by too with X-Men but I have doubts about Spider-Man's future
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 8/13/2014, 6:53 PM
batz, I actually email boxofficemojo and let them know which movies I plan or don't plan to see so they can adjust their estimates accordingly.
batz11
batz11 - 8/13/2014, 6:55 PM
LMAO, touche, good one!
batz11
batz11 - 8/13/2014, 6:56 PM
I went to GotG 6 [frick]ing times already, I'm sick...
ruadh
ruadh - 8/13/2014, 6:57 PM
There isnt much of a problem, except for other studios. Big tentpole films like this create a fat mine field for other studios. So, its almost like cheating.
MrCBM56
MrCBM56 - 8/13/2014, 7:01 PM
Series finale of Wilfred is on. See you [frick]s later
Bekss
Bekss - 8/13/2014, 7:02 PM
"Release date does not equal a movie", something I tried to explain when marvel did their big fat announcement but of course I know nothing."

Why you don't mention DC's fat announcement?
WinterSoldier33
WinterSoldier33 - 8/13/2014, 7:03 PM
Actually it is 18 CBM in the next three years

2015-avengers AOU, FF, antman

2016-BVS, Cap 3, x men apocalypse, sinister six and 1 untitled movie from marvel and DC

2017-2 untitled marvel and dc CBM, GOTG 2, FF2, wolverine 2, venom, female led sony CBM
FordEl
FordEl - 8/13/2014, 7:08 PM
I see it could be a problem for smaller movies. I think i could see it go either way(bad or good)
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 8/13/2014, 7:09 PM
I really don't see the big deal at all.
DeusExSponge
DeusExSponge - 8/13/2014, 7:10 PM
Talk about a busy schedule! I'm sure I'll enjoy all of it, but I'm worried the general audience might get sick of it.
ruadh
ruadh - 8/13/2014, 7:15 PM
@bekss, because I didn't go into it then. I did it when marvel made their announcement. Don't make this a studio preference thing.
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 8/13/2014, 7:15 PM
In 2016 we're getting one superhero movie in March, none in April, 2 in May, nothing in June, one in July, one in August, and then nothing until November.


It's more superhero movies than this year sure, but it's not THAT overcrowded.
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 8/13/2014, 7:16 PM
Bring it!!!

Honestly things ain't like the old days, when I run to see every BIG movie that comes out. Now the only times I go to the movies, 90% of the time it's a CBM.
FordEl
FordEl - 8/13/2014, 7:18 PM
@DeusExSponge

Most of the general audience will but fanboys won't at all
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/13/2014, 7:20 PM
As long as they keep making the kind of money that they are making now, cbm's will own Hollywood.
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 8/13/2014, 7:20 PM
I think the GA won't get tired of the cbm as long as you bring something different to the table, which I see some cbm doing lately.
Prime example...... GotG can be just another scifi movie, couldn't really tell it's a superhero movie
X-men days of future past, was more of a scifi drama, then a superhero movie
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 8/13/2014, 7:22 PM
For the past 3 summers now, Hollywood has proved that superhero movies(DC/marvel) are safe best a win, win
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 8/13/2014, 7:22 PM
I know this sounds shitty, but I really hope Spiderman films perform worse and worse until Sony just takes a long break. Or work with Marvel to produce Spidey films within the MCU (probably not going to happen).

If Fox keeps up the quality of Days of Future Past and The Wolverine, I'm fine with X-Men staying there. I hope Fantastic Four fails and reverts to Marvel.

DC is a huge question mark. I love Batman and Justice League Dark. The rest is meh.
FordEl
FordEl - 8/13/2014, 7:24 PM
@PsychoticSpaceRaccoon

So you're one of those trolls. Hoping for movies to fail, smh
BruceLeroy
BruceLeroy - 8/13/2014, 7:25 PM
I think there is a chance the general audience may get tired or burned out. I mean, we're getting at least six films from 2016-2018. That's insane. It's a scenario that we just didn't have in the past.

Hell, even if we don't see people losing interest, we could see some of these movies suffering box office wise because there is legit competition with films inside and outside of the superhero genre. Just because a studio has a superhero property doesn't mean it's going to be performing like the latest Marvel Studios films. These studios better be careful.
DCGuy
DCGuy - 8/13/2014, 7:26 PM
I think Sony & Fox have all to lose here. Didn't Fox give the rights of the Xmen back to Marvel?
TwistedKingdom
TwistedKingdom - 8/13/2014, 7:27 PM
These six-year-in-advance release dates tell me studios are making these movies just to be making them. Warner Bros. Disney. If either of these studios really had an overall plan in place there'd be movie titles in these dates instead of "untitled" DC/Marvel film.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 8/13/2014, 7:29 PM
I think the MCU will be around for awhile because it to the GA its more kid friendly. You can take your whole family to see those movies and theres something for everyone.
DCGuy
DCGuy - 8/13/2014, 7:31 PM
DID FOX SELL THE RIGHTS TO X MEN & FF BACK TO MARVEL?
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 8/13/2014, 7:32 PM
@DCguy

No
JAC
JAC - 8/13/2014, 7:33 PM
@DCGuy NO, [frick]ing hell. It was an April Fools joke.
Maestro
Maestro - 8/13/2014, 7:33 PM
I look at superhero films like every other films. No one says, "oh we're getting too many action movies!" or "we're getting too many comedies!" Insiders are just mad they can't get in on this.
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 8/13/2014, 7:35 PM
@FordEl Troll? Okay. I just don't like what Sony is doing with Spiderman. And I'd rather Fantastic Four be with the MCU.

I don't have to cheer for every stupid cbm. They have to prove themselves first.
DCGuy
DCGuy - 8/13/2014, 7:36 PM
Thanks guys I have been confused for a while I read that and I was like what? why isn't it on CBM!? why are no marvel fans talking about this aren't they suppose to scrap the movies?

Again thanks for the clear up
cld247
cld247 - 8/13/2014, 7:36 PM
I don't see a problem... I [frick]ing love it! Hell yeah! I just hope they all maintain making really good movies. That's what I really care about... I m so addicted to all comic book movie's.... I'm obsessed with them....
cld247
cld247 - 8/13/2014, 7:38 PM
17 in 4 years! [frick] yes!!!!!
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