From the Archives: J.J. Abrams Interview Regarding "Superman"

From the Archives: J.J. Abrams Interview Regarding "Superman"

With MTV's new interview with J.J. Abrams about how he would potentially be interested in revisiting the Superman movie script he had written at the beginning of the decade, VFK decided to dip into the archives to resurrect this 2002 interview with Abrams in which he talked a (tiny) bit about the project.

By EdGross - Oct 27, 2009 03:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

As fans may recall, a review of his script was posted on Aint It Cool News and it was truly shredded. Shortly thereafter Warner Bros., based on fan outcry based on the review, shelved the script. Of course given Abrams' current status in Hollywood, WB could very seriously reconsider that screenplay.

Back in 2002, while Abrams was in the midst of production on the second season of Alias, he spoke to VFK Editor Edward Gross about the project. He doesn't reveal much in the way of details, but certainly expresses his enthusiasm over the project.

This was the version that was supposed to be directed by McG and potentially starring Brendan Fraser as Superman.




VOICES FROM KRYPTON: The real question, of course, is how you came to be signed on as the writer of the new Superman film.

J.J. ABRAMS: Pretty simple, really. They approached me about doing the movie. I took a meeting. For me, I miss doing movies. I love doing TV, but I wanted to do another film. What’s been nice is working with producers with incredible records, like Jerry Bruckheimer and my idols. What’s wonderful about working on Superman is that as a kid I was the biggest fan. My three and a half year old son goes to bed almost every night wearing a Superman shirt. I couldn’t pass it up.

VOICES FROM KRYPTON: What’s the approach to the material?

J.J. ABRAMS: What’s nice is that after a lot of years of trying to get this going and not succeeding, everyone’s coming at it with a very fresh, open mind. What’s exciting for me is that we’ve got some incredible, really big ideas that go beyond just the one story we’re telling. ALIAS has actually been an amazing training ground for me. In this Superman we’re talking a lot about where he’s come from and where he’s going. I can’t talk about specifics, but I can tell you that there are a lot of exciting, big ideas. I think it’s Superman for everyone and not just for people who already know the character. It’s for the uninitiated.

VOICES FROM KRYPTON: Do you feel the first two Christopher Reeve films are a tremendous shadow to overcome, or do you basically just ignore them?

J.J. ABRAMS: I think it’s really a question of embracing what has come before it. This, in many ways, is a retelling of Superman. They did four of those movies, then they did Supergirl — you have to start fresh. I don’t think this should be looked at as the fifth sequel.

VOICES FROM KRYPTON: From what I’ve gathered from people I’ve spoken to in the past, producer Jon Peters isn’t much of a fan of the Superman costume or the image of Superman flying. This, of course, begs the question: why bother making a Superman movie?

J.J. ABRAMS: It’s safe to say that if Superman doesn’t fly, it would be a disappointment. I do think that we’re approaching this in a very fresh way, but there are certain things that people have come to realize are important. You have to have the costume and you want to do a Superman movie that will be so satisfying. I’m so sick of going to big blockbuster movies and leaving feeling like I died a little bit, like, “Oh my God, how disappointing was that?” What’s so exciting for us is that we’re approaching this thing knowing and feeling the kind of movie that as kids we used to see. I feel that we’re going to try as hard as we can to make this a satisfying experience.

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shibazz
shibazz - 10/27/2009, 3:59 AM
1st! BitchAzz!!! i love the good ol blue boy scout... makes a great punchin bag for Bats!
Fortress
Fortress - 10/27/2009, 4:19 AM
Ed: very cool news! whoever gets the the big job to the reboot!

I belevie they should cast an unknown to play Superman! or get Tom Welling. ;)
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 5:37 AM
WELLING should stick to tv superland, CAVILL good replacement for BATS!!!

ROUTHY VS DOOMSDAY is the ONLY Choice!!!!!



Denn1s
Denn1s - 10/27/2009, 5:47 AM
this is the doomsday i wanna see. i drew it yesterday. more bone protrusions and fiercer than smallville's
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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 5:49 AM
JJ ABRAMS would be sweet on the SUPES project, knew WB would'nt just give up lol.

Thumbs up @ ED!!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 5:50 AM
DENN1S @ Pretty cool dude!!
Denn1s
Denn1s - 10/27/2009, 5:50 AM
thanx
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 5:54 AM
Yw man, its fantastic art, kudos dude, and screams what DOOMSDAY should be like!!
Denn1s
Denn1s - 10/27/2009, 5:58 AM
thanx although i liked the fact that he had no hair in smallville. but i put some hair in the drawing to keep it classic
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 6:23 AM
DENN!S @ You know i never noticed that in Smallville, only thing i noticed is how they [frick]ed DOOMIE up, big time. Never should they of used that character on there. Knew that from the start, all they did was Lame him up as a love struck worst Smallville villain ever!

DOOMSDAY is meant for the Big Screen!!! Amazing PIC dude, but why is it so small, i'll put it out as big for ya k'!!?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 6:26 AM


Wicked PIC @ DENN1S @ Thats perfect for DOOMSDAY!!
SkunkApe1
SkunkApe1 - 10/27/2009, 6:27 AM
How do you copy / post a picture to here ?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 6:28 AM
SKUNK @ Depends what your using??
lc
lc - 10/27/2009, 7:05 AM
@leee why did u post a pic
of yourself lmao.
am more of a
super woman
or catwoman
kinda girl lol
.but good work tho.:)
jazzman
jazzman - 10/27/2009, 7:14 AM
i remember hearing on a few other websites about his version of a new Superman movie its had a story about Lex Luthor is actually a second son of Krypton.

the concept art for the Superman movie that was released had a random image from the failed project on Phil Saunders blog, showing Superman facing off against a Kryptonian Battle Pod called Rouser in Gotham City.

heres the concept art

http://philsaunders.blogspot.com/2009/02/superman-flyby.html



superdog
superdog - 10/27/2009, 7:39 AM
that script sounds like shit.
Fortress
Fortress - 10/27/2009, 7:54 AM
LEEE: I liked Routh, but i dont think he will return to play Supes! as his contract has run out, and whoever comes in to direct it will not want carry on Singers film.

I maybe wrong! But i am feeling a Doomsday Epic! :)

cool pic Denn1s. ;)
Denn1s
Denn1s - 10/27/2009, 7:59 AM
routh was great i want him to return
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 10/27/2009, 8:08 AM
Me too. He said he would in a heart beat but its unlikely they would ask him at this late stage..even if another movie is made at all! As long as its not smell the fart and look confused Welling.
Denn1s
Denn1s - 10/27/2009, 8:59 AM
as for welling i think he has such a cute face that he can't play a mature, decisive superman.he is 32 and looks like college boy. superman must look like reeve and alex ross' paintings
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 9:27 AM
BigNick @ Yeah man, but why cant they use ROUTH after all most do like him still, even some like him that didn't actually like the new movie!

He's a damn near perfect SUPES, you can reboot and keep him in it, plus ROUTH don't see SUPERMAN as just an acting part, he actually cares for the character, i'd rather him 100% than an actor that don't give too sh1ts about SUPES!!

Why risk getting someone else? Most like ROUTH as SUPES, i still don't get the WELLING lot?! Because to have him as SUPES would truly mess up SUPES! I'ts not his fault but SMALLVILLE gone too far the other way now to have him ever as the man of steel, well on the big screen anyway.

If WB have any sense they'll get ROUTH back, we need him to be truly SUPERMAN in the next one!!!

An BN @ A DOOMSDAY EPIC would be [frick]ing amazing on the Big Screen!!!
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 10/27/2009, 9:32 AM
I think Hollywood is spelled G-R-E-E-D
BLADE4040
BLADE4040 - 10/27/2009, 9:46 AM
Yea I like Routh,but I didnt like the movie a reboot is in order.
Fortress
Fortress - 10/27/2009, 10:04 AM
LEEE: I agree I like that he had a passion for the character, nothing worse than an actor just looking for his pay chq!

I do feel sorry for Routh because if he had a good script/director and a good villain to go up against, doomsday/ zod/ etc... And also having Bosworth as Lois Lane didn’t help him, with her negative attitude! She made him look bad imo!

What killed the film for me was giving him a kid!

All i know is that WB need to keep Singer and his writers well away from Supes, and push on with a reboot!
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 10/27/2009, 10:16 AM
I don't even like the idea of Batman having a kid, why in they hell would Singer think that Superman being a father would be a good idea. The only good superman movie ever made was superman the movie. It's funny that marvel throws out terrible movies almost every year just to get money,and DC takes thirty years to make the next good supes movie, and they fail completely. This is ridiculous.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 10/27/2009, 10:29 AM
Yeah it was ALL STINGER, i mean STINKER, oops SINGER lol!!

Why that stupid kid, why???

I like to think the kid as another METAHUMAN/MUTIE offspring, LOIS has been slapping it about while SUPERMANS been gone for years lol! : D

BillyBlack
BillyBlack - 10/27/2009, 11:00 AM
Isn't this the script where Lex Luthor is a government agent who investigates UFOs? If it is, I saw some points of the script and it does suck. I love Abrams, but this would've been bad. Brendan Frasier would've sucked as Supes. And that Producer is a total dumb twaat. As much as I hated Pooperman Returns, this might've actually been worse.
EdGross
EdGross - 10/27/2009, 11:47 AM
I've read the script and -- and this is actually something I communicated to J.J. Abrams -- I found the Krypton surviving aspect of it to actually be intriguing and downright epic with its set up of what was to come in the next to chapters of a proposed trilogy. The Luthor as Kryptonian idea was terrible, and it was something that was definitely being altered in later drafts.

Given the success of Star Trek and J.J.in general, I really do wonder if Warner Bros. will dust this one off for another look.
jazzman
jazzman - 10/27/2009, 12:36 PM
@BillyBlack

Abrams script had Lex Luthor is actually a second son of Krypton that idea was very bad.

as much we all like what J J Abrams did for Star Trek it does not mean he will make Superman any good. remember even Bryan Singer was praised for what he did for X-Men 1 and 2 thats why Warner Bros hire him to do Superman Returns and look what happens. the only way a Superman reboot works if the director, script writter and producers are a fan of Superman comic books not what Richard Donner did for Superman.

look at Batman Begins/TDK Christopher Nolan was a bit of a fan of batman and he looked at the comic book source materials for guidance to help him develop a good batman movie. Same thing with Jon Favreau he was a fan of Iron Man so he had a understanding of how Iron Man should be on film. Bryan Singer Superman Returns failed cause Bryan Singer was not even a fan of Superman he was a fan of the original Donner Superman. Superman Returns would of be a major success and praised by everyone if it was released back in the days but nowadays you need Superman fighting a supervillain (not Lex Luther).


InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 10/27/2009, 1:19 PM
The script JJ was attached to reeked of crap, though after his AMAZING Star Trek reboot, I'd gladly give him a shot at the director's chair.

Star Trek '09 had simply stunning action (mind-blowing at the worst lol), incredibly vivid CGI and cinematography, an epic feel, and terrific performances from just about everyone in the cast. Take all of that, mix it with the Superman mythos, and I think we've got a classic on our hands.

Bring back Routh. He was an excellent Clark, and a very good Superman, even with B*tchy Bosworth and Sh*tty Singer right next to him ;)

If he had a competent director (who actually knows about the comics instead of just the first 2 movies of a franchise) and a more well-rounded cast around him, then I reckon he'd be almost as good as Reeves was!

All that said, it's time for......BRAINIAC!

Think about it, Brainiac has unrivaled intelligence and vast knowledge of the known universe, DC universe that is hehe. That means he presents an intellectual threat to Big Blue, not just a 1-dimensional, depth-less monster (COUGH*Doomsday*COUGH) Not only does he have immense mental powers, he has been characterized in other media as having DOZENS (and probably limitless) physical forms. He can make himself more than a physical match for Supes, no problem. He's got the whole package.
jazzman
jazzman - 10/27/2009, 1:48 PM
@teabag

a person who did not like comic books did two great comic book movies. but i say Nolan was a bit of a fan not a deep comic book fan but you got to remember he looked back at comic book source materials for him to understand more about batman.

imagine Abrams did Superman i bet he would have a slusho refernce in the movie lol.
EdGross
EdGross - 10/27/2009, 1:59 PM
You know what would make a GREAT Superman film storyline? An adaptation of Geoff Johns' Brainiac story. The majority of it is about Supes' battle with Brainiac and attempts to protect earth from him, and it all ends with the Bottle City of Kandor expanding....what a great movie cliffhanger that would be. Brainiac is dealt with, but suddenly -- as in the comic World of New Krypton -- there are 100,000 Kryptonians that will have to be dealt with in the next movie.

Sorry, geeked out there for a moment.


Fortress
Fortress - 10/27/2009, 2:13 PM
EdGross: That is a good shout!

My message to WB and the new director is! STICK to the mythology!!! the comics!

If they do that, they wont go wrong!
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 10/27/2009, 2:21 PM
i think Brainiac or doomsday are the only two choices to go with. This needs to be epic. Those are the 2 villains that can get the job done
valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 10/27/2009, 2:24 PM
and has anyone noticed how Smallville actually DOESN"T suck this year? aside from the opener its been a pretty decent season thus far.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 10/27/2009, 2:51 PM
I AGREE GHOST, AND WITH JSA COMING, ITS GONNA BE REALLY GOOD.
JYCowboy
JYCowboy - 10/27/2009, 2:54 PM
To origin or not to origin? I say just jump in to the world with a fully developed Sups and just ellude to his past. Reboot it were the Donner films could have happened or not (like with Hulk, Inc Hulk could have happen or not). Totally ignore SR for the Lois/Clark replationship (with child).

That all established, do a trilogy set of films with Brainiac. First film, Confront Brainiac trying to steal Metropolis. Second film, intro Supergirl and the existance of Kandor with Brianiac's second attempt on Metropolis which succeeds. Third film, is the saving of Metropolis and Kandor with the defeat of Brianiac. Through out these films, show the reaction of the world to this threat from space. The Flash would be shown quelling a riot, Batman dispersing gangs in Gotham and (because the film should be out) Green Lantern working to save planes, trains and automobiles from crashing at the loss of Metropolis. All hero cameos in brief news casts.

Lets see the DC universe finally come together in a show piece Superman film series.

A subplot to this could be the growing love of Lois and Sups in the public eye. How could this story be metaphorically relevent to today? Liken the attacks to the terror attacks of 911. Imaigine the crater where Metropolis was or the afront that paprazzis are to celebs. Now wrap that all around the grandest Superhero fights ever put to film.

At least thats one way to do it.
EdGross
EdGross - 10/27/2009, 3:59 PM
Lord if we have to see the origin again....that would be awful and a waste of screen time. EVERYBODY knows the origin.

I think the problem with Doomsday is that, first of all, it's already been done to death in comics, animation and on Smallville. Second, he's just a brute creature, and, yes, it would be cool to see Superman in a massive fight with someone like Doomsday, but if you were to put INTELLIGENCE behind the threat he would go up against, that would make it even better. I don't mean Luthor intelligence, but Brainiac or (and this is the one I truly hope for) Darkseid.

As to Smallville, while it doesn't suck, they really need to stick to a plan. Zod is introduced in episode one, we get a small piece that felt kind of tacked on with the "Rabid" episode, but then it's been pretty much dropped. Oliver's story last week was so over the top -- and a take-off of "Saw" and "The Game," plus impossible to believe Chloe would do this to him -- though that final moment with Green Arrow and Clark pretending to be Batman was pretty cool.

Where I actually think the show has been AMAZING this year is in the writing and sequences between Lois and Clark. To me, that is starting to feel like the bread and butter of the show at this point. The actors are so good together and the writing for them crackles.

Anyway, those are my quick thoughts on the matter.
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