Matthew Modine Explains Why Occupy Wall Street Wasn't Used in The Dark Knight Rises

Matthew Modine Explains Why Occupy Wall Street Wasn't Used in The Dark Knight Rises

A few weeks before the new Batman movie started filming in New York it was reported that Christopher Nolan was planning to use the OWS protesters, but he changed his mind.

By nailbiter111 - Nov 15, 2011 11:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman
Source: indiewire.com


"we didn't want to trivialize it."


Excerpt from Indiewire.com Interview:
Why didn't "The Dark Knight Rises" shoot at Occupy Wall Street?

The wisdom of Christopher Nolan and his incredible team was that, while it seemed like a good idea to give [the protestors] an opportunity for work, to give them money, it would send a terrible message. At the end of the day, we're making a movie. What's happening down there is more important than that. To co-opt what's happening there and around the country… we didn't want to trivialize it. It was more important to respect what they're doing than to do anything that could potentially trivialize the political situation downtown.

Considering that your short film deals with the ills of capitalism, were you excited to play a character in "The Dark Knight" named "Nixon"?

I'm not allowed to talk about [the film], but there's a lot of misinformation. I don't know who created it, but it's kind of fun to have everybody speculating about it.


Would the protester's inclusion into the film trivialize the movement? Yes, I actually think it would've, and I'm glad Nolan decided to pass on that angle, however he was planning on using them.

The hot topic today is that slightly after midnight over a thousand police officers cleared out Zuccotti Park, the home of the Occupy Wall Street movement. The police used pepper spray and batons to help clear the park, and threw away belongings of the protesters. Included in the trashed items was over 5,000 books from the Zuccotti Park Library.




The Dark Knight Rises hits theaters July 20th 2012 and stars Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman, Michael Caine as Alfred Pennyworth, Garly Oldman as Jim Gordon, Tom Hardy as Bane, Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle, Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake and Marion Cotillard as Miranda Tate.

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KaneVonDoom
KaneVonDoom - 11/15/2011, 12:44 PM
Because the raid on Zucotti was illegal. That is why they didn't leave.
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 11/15/2011, 12:47 PM
Sorry, can't argue on this comment board, already at it over on the Miller/Millar story.
KaneVonDoom
KaneVonDoom - 11/15/2011, 12:48 PM
Whether you agree or disagree with the Occupy movement, from an unbiased standpoint The Supreme Court ruled that encampments were a form of expression. That directly puts it under the First Amendment of the Constitution for both Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly.

Since the Constitution supercedes any local ordinance they may conjure up, that makes the clearing of Zuccotti by police force an illegal act.
daveB
daveB - 11/15/2011, 1:04 PM
OWS trivalized themselves nicely. Time for them to go back to Mom's basement, world of warcraft has been missing them.
RunDTC
RunDTC - 11/15/2011, 1:09 PM
maybe those dumbassess will finally go home
RunDTC
RunDTC - 11/15/2011, 1:09 PM
*dumbasses
santoanderson
santoanderson - 11/15/2011, 1:15 PM
The Occupy movement has gone totally tits up. It's become nothing more than a place where underemployed PHD candidates can feel like they're making a difference. Newsflash - shouting into a bullhorn while standing next to a bunch of homeless people doesn't make you a martyr. It makes you appear naive and immature.
JackBauer
JackBauer - 11/15/2011, 1:16 PM
@nailbiter - The park was cleared of people because it needed to be clean due to unsanitary conditions. The mayor said they will be allowed to return to protest, they just can't set up camp with tents.

However, the National Lawyers Guild has obtained a court order that says they can return with their tents and it also prevents the enforcement of park rules such as camping overnight. This, to me, sounds like a judge overstepping his/her authority because the park is private property. We'll have to wait and see what the city's response is to this.

BTW, their belongings weren't thrown in the trash. Everything was taken to the Sanitation Department where the protesters will be allowed to retrieve them.
JackBauer
JackBauer - 11/15/2011, 1:18 PM
*NO camping overnight*
Mugwamp
Mugwamp - 11/15/2011, 1:22 PM
Yes, and since most of the morons out there smell, look and and like something that came out of the sanitation dept. then what they really should have said was that police took their items to the occupier's homes.
JackBauer
JackBauer - 11/15/2011, 1:23 PM
I respect everyone's right to free speech and the right to assemble, but they must do it lawfully. They keep violating laws, park rules, etc.

The funny thing is most of these people probably don't even know what the protest is really about. They're just regurgitating whatever bullshit the ACORN organizers are spewing.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/03/acorn-officials-scramble-firing-workers-and-shredding-documents-after-exposed/
JackBauer
JackBauer - 11/15/2011, 1:23 PM
@Mugwamp - Haha!
JackBauer
JackBauer - 11/15/2011, 1:26 PM
@BigTodd71 - It appears we're on the same side politically, but did you ever find where I had reported anyone :)
AlanWarlock
AlanWarlock - 11/15/2011, 1:34 PM
The movement couldn't be any more trivial than it already is. If Nolan had included it in the movie, it would have made worse what already promises to be a failure on an epic level. Not only would the movie have been bad, but it would have been dated by a specific historical reference. One of the things that dates the original "Superman: The Movie," besides its 70's fashions and all of the technological advances that have been made since it was filmed (cellular telephones, the Internet, cable television, to name a few), is its inclusion of Rex Reed in a cameo - a man modern audiences will see, scratch their heads over, and say, "Who was that?" Similarly, including the "OWS" movement into TDKR will wrap the year 2010 around this movie like an albatross.
CapFan79
CapFan79 - 11/15/2011, 1:35 PM
It is not illegal to remove the tents from the park. People have the right to free speech and assembly, not to squat in a private park.

They do not have the right to shit on cop cars or cum on public property and not to disrupt or verbally abuse peaceful citizens attempting to get to work and live their lives in a civil maner.

OWS is trivial! Has nobody read the confirmed cases of rape withint the OWS groups in other cities?
AlanWarlock
AlanWarlock - 11/15/2011, 1:39 PM
@KaneVonDoom: The First Amendment doesn't give this group an unfettered right to park themselves wherever they like and stay for as long as they like. If there are rules against encampment, or staying overnight in a location, those are valid and enforceable.

On a side note, if the "Occupy"-ers are simply "occupying" (i.e., camping out in places, essentially sitting down), are they really a "movement"? Shouldn't it more appropriately be called an inertia?
JackBauer
JackBauer - 11/15/2011, 1:49 PM
@Gusto - How the hell do you know what's in my fridge? :)
NeoBaggins
NeoBaggins - 11/15/2011, 1:59 PM
Excellent choice. Make your movie and leave that shit out of it.

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Greengo
Greengo - 11/15/2011, 2:21 PM
OWS trivializes themselves.

Batman would lend credibility to the movement.

Modine is an idiot. The reason they didn't use it is because it would have politicized the movie and divided it's fan base.... as it does on CBM.
Greengo
Greengo - 11/15/2011, 2:23 PM
Lert
Lert - 11/15/2011, 2:24 PM
Did you guys here about Philly protest.. a shooting
Did you here what happend in Detroit.. a Rape
now i know that may be something that goes on everyday there butthey were protesting.. free speech doesnt mean free crime.. one dumbass can ruin the whole bunch!
TheMarmoset
TheMarmoset - 11/15/2011, 2:39 PM
Glad that they didn't put these dirty, lazy bums in a Batman movie. Why should people who hate capitalism be in a movie that is only being made because of capitalism? Last time I checked, WB isn't getting any stimulus money to make TDKR.
TheOverlord
TheOverlord - 11/15/2011, 3:57 PM
No clear objectives to the movement. Shaky legality. Doomed to fail one way or another. If the OWS people really want to get involved, they should organize properly. Or better yet, show up at the polls. Still, what's with all the hate here, CBM people? Agree or disagree, but let's try to keep it civil. Some of the OWS protesters are creeps, but some are legitimately exercising their First Amendment rights for what they believe in. And I just gotta say: this is a great country for even allowing this kind of spectacle to even get off the ground.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 11/15/2011, 9:51 PM
occupy wallstreet isnt a problem, occupy oakland however...
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