Find Out More About 'Kylo Ren', 'Snoke', & The First Order In STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS

Find Out More About 'Kylo Ren', 'Snoke', & The First Order In STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS

Yesterday Empire debuted an awesome new image of the mysterious Kylo Ren (Adam Driver), and now they've posted some quotes from director J.J. Abrams which shed some more light on the origins this masked villain. Plus, find out what the First Order have in common with the Nazis...

By MarkCassidy - Aug 25, 2015 05:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Empire
Who is Kylo Ren? Well, we know that's "not the name he was born with", which has led to speculation that he's actually the son of one of our returning classic trilogy characters, and we know he is a member of the Knights Of Ren. Now, while speaking to Empire, Star Wars: The Force Awakens director J.J. Abrams doesn't actually provide any more details on who Kylo is, but rather who he isn't.


Despite dressing in black, wielding a red (if pretty ragged looking) lightsaber, and demonstrating force-like powers in the trailers, it seems there's a very simple reason why Mr. Ren doesn't go by "Darth". "Kylo Ren is not a Sith," reveals Abrams. "He works under Supreme Leader Snoke, who is a powerful figure on the Dark Side of the Force.” Snoke is the motion capture character that'll be played by Andy Serkis, and from the sounds of things he at least may turn out to be a Sith Lord. There's a rumor doing the rounds that he's actually Darth Plagueis, but that remains to be seen.

Abrams also gives some new info on the army these two will be using to do their bidding: The First Order. It turns out they're not the remnants of the Empire at all, and more a fanatical group that's trying to continue their work and may even worship Darth Vader as some sort of dark saint.


“That all came out of conversations about what would have happened if the Nazis all went to Argentina but then started working together again? What could be born of that? Could The First Order exist as a group that actually admired The Empire? Could the work of The Empire be seen as unfulfilled? And could Vader be a martyr? Could there be a need to see through what didn’t get done?”


Interesting stuff indeed. For more be sure to pick up the new issue of Empire, which is out this Thursday.
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TheAstoundingMan
TheAstoundingMan - 8/25/2015, 5:40 AM
@Doopie.

Yes. And if you cut off his head, that's a Snoke-Choke-Broke.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 8/25/2015, 5:45 AM
AlexdoxA
AlexdoxA - 8/25/2015, 5:46 AM
@doopie LOL!!!
that was a Snoke-Joke!
MrMartyMarvel
MrMartyMarvel - 8/25/2015, 5:58 AM
Supreme Leader Snoke? Sounds like Kim Jong Un's nickname or something.
spidey1994
spidey1994 - 8/25/2015, 5:59 AM
Really hoping that Supreme Leader Snoke is actually Darth Plagueis.
LEOSTRATOR
LEOSTRATOR - 8/25/2015, 6:11 AM
Why so many people report Doom for making positive comments? What the hell is going on here?
ColonelSanders
ColonelSanders - 8/25/2015, 6:14 AM
I can't wait for this movie. So freakin ready!
MrMartyMarvel
MrMartyMarvel - 8/25/2015, 6:17 AM
Son of bitch, [frick]ers got Doom again! From the look of it, it seems like something went down in chat before they started revenge reporting him.
BackwardGalaxy
BackwardGalaxy - 8/25/2015, 6:28 AM
Actually, there's actually an actual acuality that Kylo Ren is actually and actual Skywalker, actually.
BackwardGalaxy
BackwardGalaxy - 8/25/2015, 6:30 AM
I can totally write for this site, totally.
blackagar94
blackagar94 - 8/25/2015, 6:35 AM
Didn't Palpatine inplicitly said he killed Plagueis ? Why is there a rumor of him being in the movie ? I mean, sure, Palpatine could have lied. The rule of 2 has been broken many times despite the fact he insisted on its importance. But I doubt it. If he is alive, it's a retcon.
BestAtWhatIDo
BestAtWhatIDo - 8/25/2015, 6:42 AM
In order to justify the continuation of the saga, they have to have a threat that's somehow bigger and more foundational than The Emperor. It makes sense that it would be his mentor, the First Sith, or whatever. I think it would be cool if Snoke (Plagueis?) doesn't actually lead the First Order, but manipulates them through Kylo Ren, while lingering in the shadows, waiting to take over.
JPSpideyFan2015
JPSpideyFan2015 - 8/25/2015, 6:44 AM
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel this movie will be another Superman Returns mixed with Man of Steel, they bring something nostalgia behind the new characters, but story is just the same.
PkBlitz
PkBlitz - 8/25/2015, 6:46 AM
Argentinian here, we totally had The First Order hiding in our country, they plenty of good times in Bariloche before plotting their new awakening.
blackagar94
blackagar94 - 8/25/2015, 6:50 AM
Yeah they did, on those 3 prequels that, you know, generated MILLIONS of new Star Wars fans.But yeah they can cheat death, but only to a certain point, I think, like Darth Maul who survived thanks to the dark side, but wasn't actually dead. Palpatine said he killed Plagueis to steal his powers and knowledge. Now like I said, he could have lied. He promised a lot of stuff to Anakin that he never tought him in the end.
YeezusWept
YeezusWept - 8/25/2015, 6:56 AM
DarthTano
DarthTano - 8/25/2015, 6:57 AM
Awesome awesome awesome awesome awesome awesome!!!! A Death Cult for Darth Vader sounds amazing and creepy
marvelstudios
marvelstudios - 8/25/2015, 6:58 AM
This excites me so much!

Can't wait.

3 more big movies left for the year: Star Wars, Hunger Games and 007. Am I missing any?
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 8/25/2015, 6:59 AM
BestAtWhatIDo
BestAtWhatIDo - 8/25/2015, 7:06 AM
@Doopie, It's super hard to separate rumors from official releases, but yeah, I think I heard that too. If I had to guess, I would say this is Snoke, since we know Kylo Ren's face at least starts normal.
blackagar94
blackagar94 - 8/25/2015, 7:06 AM
@Doopie What we do know, though, and from both trilogies, is that powerful users of the Force can return as "ghosts", or spirits or whatever. Siths probably can do the same, espcially one like Plagueis. It would be kind of original to have him be a spirit, and still run things from the grave. He is so powerful that he doesn't need a physical shape to use the Force.And he is untouchable that way.
antbwan
antbwan - 8/25/2015, 7:08 AM
Plagueis also knew how to cheat death
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