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"Supermax" Moving Forward?

According to David Goyer it may very well be. MTV have some exclusive news on the potential Green Arrow prison break movie..
News on David Goyer's supervillain prison film, "Super Max." has been pretty much non existent since rumor of the movie broke over a year ago. Originally concieved as a "Green Arrow" story which would see DC's emerald archer plan a prison break with some of DC's most infamous villains such as Joker, Riddler and Lex Luthor.

MTV brought it up when chatting to David S Goyer..

"We're working on that. We're about to bring on another writer," Goyer told MTV News. "Obviously, Warner Bros. is now heavily into mining all of the various DC properties."

"We came up with the idea and thought it could work in either the Marvel or the DC universe," he explained. "It needed that type of character and there are analogues in both universes. Green Arrow seemed to make the most amount of sense."

As for whether "Super Max" is making any forward progress these days, Goyer simply said, "It's definitely something we're developing."

I hope this happens. I was never a huge fan of Green Arrow but have since gained an appreciation for him thorough the JLU cartoon and Smallville of all things! Also, the premise sounds great to me.

What do you think?
56 Yes
29 No
Rorschach01
8/11/2009
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75 Comments

I could see how they could have done this with a marvel character instead like Hawkeye.
ironknight27 - 8/11/2009, 4:10 PM
why do you need so many writers? what a untalented bitch.
grif - 8/11/2009, 4:15 PM
It sounds cool. I hope they go through with it
DonkeyPuncher - 8/11/2009, 4:25 PM
You know it does sound like it could work
Supermike - 8/11/2009, 4:26 PM
Shawshank Redemption meets Dark knight. Only if it is done right
ewoksoup - 8/11/2009, 4:28 PM
I don't get it, maybe i read it wrong, but why is Green Arrow breaking the bad guys out of prison? p.s. im not big on the Green Arrow lore
BuckyB7588 - 8/11/2009, 4:31 PM
Bucky- He is not breaking them out. The premise is that GA gets caught, gets sent to prison, and attempts to escape.
ironknight27 - 8/11/2009, 4:32 PM
Man I hope this works out.

This has potential to be a very unique take on the genre.

BillyBlack - 8/11/2009, 4:34 PM
It sounds cool, but that's because the concept is a complete rip-off of Brian Michael Bendis' run on Daredevil, in which Matt Murdock gets outed as Daredevil and gets sent to prison. He has to fight for his life every day and then enlists the aid of the Kingpin and Frank Castle, AKA The Punisher, to break out.



Brent Sprecher - 8/11/2009, 4:41 PM
Damn Brent I cant believe I forgot about that storyline and I even have the trade paper back version. I think this storyline was a part of Brubaker's run on the book.
ironknight27 - 8/11/2009, 4:44 PM
I have been looking forward to this film since it was first announced. I believe the original pitch for this film was prior to the DD storyline that you’re referring to. Also Ollie being trapped in a prison as a hero among villains is an analogy to him being stranded alone on an island. I believe Goyer stated in another interview that it will coincide with flashbacks telling his origin.
bhfireman - 8/11/2009, 4:52 PM
doesn't anyone else find it really weird that this is how they plan on intoducing the green arrow to the general public??? this screams sequel to me. and was there not a comic story called super max that this based on?? i thought i read that somewhere a while back on a different site. i'm not a DC fan much less a green arrow fan, so i could be wrong about that.

either way, it sounds kinda dumb to me, he's the green arrow, where is he gonna find a bow and arrow in a super max prison?? and even he did, who's he going to be shooting with it?? guards?? thats not exactly what i would call a super hero...
CorndogBurglar - 8/11/2009, 4:56 PM
wtf...so it's outta normal continuity with dc movies?...cuz i think the joker storyline shud be addressed in TDK returns, umm...we havent seen riddler yet in nolan's world so why wud riddler be here?...ummm..oh yeah is lex luthor not roaming on an island with his bitch??...WTF GOYER...he is such an uncreative rip off douche...why cant they do a green arrow origins?...or stick to the main films we want like wonder woman, flash etc..this supermax movie is in the same boat as the JLA MORTAL CRAP..aka in the sh!t i dont wanna see happen...they shud do SUICIDE SQUAD before they look at this crap...
HE RIPPED OF THE D.DEVIL ARC TOO..GOOD CALL GUYS
Anil Rickly - 8/11/2009, 5:00 PM
Brent i never knew that! It does sound suspiciously similar alright. That sounds like something i really should read! Is it good?
Rorschach01 - 8/11/2009, 5:02 PM
Sounds awesome!!

@Brent: Never read that one, what's the name of the storyline? I'd love to read it.
TheCritic17 - 8/11/2009, 5:08 PM
DC and Warner Brothers need to get their shit together in order for anything to make sense in the DC universe. I don't see how they could do this movie with Joker, Riddler and Luthor being there without 1st tying in Batman and Supes in previous movies. Although if they want to make it sorta the "real world" this could fit in to the Nolan universe.
DegenX - 8/11/2009, 5:10 PM
Critic- I think it is Devil Inside and Out. Its a pretty good read.
ironknight27 - 8/11/2009, 5:11 PM
another writer? i thought goyer already finished writin the damn thing
ALmighty1080 - 8/11/2009, 5:11 PM
what happened to the green arrow origin movie.

check at link to know what I mean.

http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSTRE56J08X20090720?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0
charbelelnasr - 8/11/2009, 5:14 PM
Wow... Maybe it would make all the haters happier if they cast Jensen Ackles as GA. No wait how about Nathan Fillion.
bhfireman - 8/11/2009, 5:18 PM
I was pumped about this flick but now that Brent has explained that Marvel had the idea first and that Daredevil was imprisoned (which I didn't know) the Daredevil storyline sounds much better and must say I would rather see a flick on that
spideysweb - 8/11/2009, 5:24 PM
It would be funny if Marvel got it's shit together an fast tracked that Daredevil story. I'd like to see how DC and Marvel compete with a similar storyline. Maybe one of them will be forced to get it right.
BillyBlack - 8/11/2009, 5:32 PM
Spideysweb- The story was actually really good. It involved Bullseye and Kingpin.

BillyBlack- I would laugh my a$$ off.
ironknight27 - 8/11/2009, 5:37 PM
why wouldn't the joker and the riddler be in arkham?? this just sounds worse and worse the more i think about it, lol
CorndogBurglar - 8/11/2009, 5:43 PM
Yeah they would put the Joker in Arkham. In the comics I dont think he has been in any other prison including BlackGate. They should do a movie based on the Arkham Asylum Game.
ironknight27 - 8/11/2009, 5:48 PM
I think the Joker, Lex stuff was just part of the original pitch. Obviously an actual script would not be able to include those characters if they are going to be part of other movies...unless they pull their heads out of there ass and cross them over. But i think if iot does happen the villains will prob be the likes of Deadshot, Killer Frost, basically anyone thats going to be part of the Suicide Squad movie that will inevitably follow if Supermax gets made.
Rorschach01 - 8/11/2009, 5:50 PM
@ironknight, the story sounds great I will need to look into it and see if I can get it. I would love nothing more than for Marvel to fast track the DD storyline and get'er done
spideysweb - 8/11/2009, 5:54 PM
Ror-Deadshot against GA would be cool. It would be even better if they could throw in Merlyn or Deathstroke.

Spidey- I think you will dig it.
ironknight27 - 8/11/2009, 5:55 PM
rorshach01@...well then maybe i'd give supermax a look..but its a crock if it has joker, luthor etc...if it has the suicide squaders...then okey...but still i think a green arrow origins...with a supermax sequel...then a suicide squad film...would be the shizznit...of course i live in dreamland lol
Anil Rickly - 8/11/2009, 5:55 PM
Dreamland is hoping for a civil wars movie...
spideysweb - 8/11/2009, 5:58 PM
On a side note, does anyone know if marvel ultimate alliance is 2 players? My 9yr wants a game that we can both play. He's into superheroes so I thought this would be a good one to get
spideysweb - 8/11/2009, 6:01 PM
@ spidey

Ultimate alliance will definately be 2 players! all of the games they made like this have been, plus it can be played online. i would recommend getting the first one, its only 15 bucks used at gamestop and its fantastic! it'll at least hold you over until the new one comes out!!!

also i would love a civil war movie, but it would probabl be impossible, at least for now, i thought civil war was the best series to come out in a VERY long time, it was just epic, and i wouldn't want them to make one until they had the rights back for all the important characters, like the fantastic four, luke cage, and so on. but man that would awesome!
CorndogBurglar - 8/11/2009, 6:47 PM
Civil War would be [frick]ing amazing if done right but i think the best we can hope for is an animated movie, at least for the foreseeable future. Marvel seem to be finally getting their act together with animated movies. Plnet Hulk looks great, hopefully their will be World War Hulk next..then who knows!
Rorschach01 - 8/11/2009, 7:06 PM
wentworth miller for green arrow. he has a great history of breaking out of prison :)

that daredevil story actually sounds like a good sequel. it could be like the incredible hulk, a reboot but not a reboot. if they start out with him going to prison it could technically follow up the end of the 1st daredevil yet be an entirely new cast etc....
superdog - 8/11/2009, 7:07 PM
i think this would work with the green arrow. and like you Ror, i wasn't much of a fan of The Green Arrow until JLU and smallville.
valeriesghost - 8/11/2009, 7:08 PM
they need the rights back for spidy b4 they can ever think of doin a civil war
jimthefan - 8/11/2009, 7:13 PM
i say BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!! =]
DEATHSTROKEE - 8/11/2009, 7:20 PM
a 2 hr cgi movie of the civil war would be sick
jimthefan - 8/11/2009, 7:21 PM
or maybe they can gets the rights back to everyone and make that 3rd movie for the trilogy of the avengers buy 2020......sweet dreaming
jimthefan - 8/11/2009, 7:24 PM
ive been waitin for more news on this film for wut seems like forever now, and now, here is some of it. lol. i do remember hearing somewhere that lex, riddler and joker were not in the recent script, so theres that. i think this could be a very good film, but after an origin story. also, the idea for this film was concieved before the story in daredevil. i just hope that they dont still wanna go wit the guy they said they wanted to play mr oliver queen...a brad pitt! i heard awhile ago that is who they were interested in getting for the part!!

woo hoo!
jallanr - 8/11/2009, 7:26 PM
@jim the fan . they need all the rights back 2 all the films mainly xmen pls pls sum 1 make them get xmen bk pls ..

yer that daredevil story line is wiked id rather see that any day green arrow is cool an all but id rather see batman locked up in blackgate then av 2 fight against all the ppl he has put away . an well an arkham asylum film wud b funkin awesome
Roscoe182 - 8/11/2009, 7:28 PM
This should be a sequel story. If this is how people are introduced to Ollie, then they are gonna be lost. You could flash back to the origin all you want, but the orgin doesn't establish the character. It's what the character does due to the origin that makes the story.
AxlKomix - 8/11/2009, 8:27 PM
@roar, you know an animated civil war movie could really rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's hope someone at Marvel is listening.

@corndog, thanks for the info on alliance. I have a PS3 so I think I might just get it and check it out.
spideysweb - 8/11/2009, 8:42 PM
@ ror

yeah in order for civil war to work they would have to establish a LOT of characters, not even necessarily ALL of the same ones from the comic, but still a lot to make two teams of characters that everyone knows already. people need to care about the characters that would be fighting each other. thats what was so great about the comic, each team had characters that you liked, i don't care who you are. so it was kind of hard to pick a side, even though iron man was technically right, lol.
CorndogBurglar - 8/11/2009, 9:07 PM
sounds like the new batman game.....
divo - 8/11/2009, 9:07 PM
Dammit just make a normal Green Arrow movie. I mean, I can see him making make-shift weapons on the inside, but really it just sounds like a strange idea.
Shadowelfz - 8/11/2009, 9:33 PM
CDB i was actually for Cap and his team! Stark was "right" i guess, but i just loved how Cap refused to compromise his beliefs. I was actually never a massive Cap fan before Civil War. I always found him a bit annoying, but Millar really made him likable to me. I love when the 2 villains(Sidewinder and someone else i think) try to join Caps team and The Punisher riddles them with bullets, so Cap beats the crap out of him but he won't fight back..classic!
Rorschach01 - 8/11/2009, 9:37 PM
I remember the original pitch for this, and it was something along the lines of he get's caught being a vigilante, they take his bow costume and shave off his goatee (?) in the first 15 minutes of the film and throw him in a prison full of super-powered bad guys. I remember my first thoughts being ROFL!!!

Take his bow and costume and he's just another angry nut, only in a prison full of super powered people that want him dead. That would be by my calculations a 16 minute movie taking into account the first 15 minutes.

This would definitely be a better Daredevil film. THAT was a hell of a story.
gtrman - 8/11/2009, 10:28 PM
i think this cooler and diffrent take on hero movies not so strait foward but with an A list hero who has to work with the worst criminalls... it sounds good to me

@ every one whoes says itll suck or be stupid your just scared of change and something diffrent ,new, inventive
captainBOOMerang - 8/11/2009, 11:11 PM
@ ror

yeah, its tough not to like cap these days! iron man was right as far as the registering part, but he was wrong for forcing them to work for the government imo.

@ captainboomerang

scared of change?? think about the concept. it COULD be done really well, but i think it should be a sequel. but you have to admit that a lot of it doesn't make sense. if it is the joker and riddler, or any other batvillains, really, it doesn't make sense for them to be anywhere other than arkham. and it seems weird to make it the intro to a character. its obviously very early to make any real judgement, but on paper it sounds like a very weird, possibly stupid idea. but thanks for passing judgement...
CorndogBurglar - 8/11/2009, 11:23 PM
If there is a movie with green arrow in it then I want to see black canary in it as well.
Phileo26 - 8/11/2009, 11:40 PM
no why dont they do a origins movie
AvengingAngel1022 - 8/12/2009, 3:12 AM
i think it sounds like a good idea, if it's done properly.

GA would have no bow and no costume, nothing what so ever to protect him. It's the ultimate challenge for any Superhero. How does he stay alive? How does he cope with the seclusion? how does he get out? you could apply these questions to lots of other Supers and they would probably handle the situation better and escape easier, but the thing about GA is that without his Bow and arrows he's incredibly vulnerable, more so than Daredevil would be (he has powers, even without his costume) or Batman (He's Batman for [frick]s sake, one of the greatest heros of all time, even without the gadgets and the suit he could still kick ass). its for these reasons that it would be better to use GA as it would be a huge challenge for him.
theFACE - 8/12/2009, 3:29 AM
SUPERMAX WILL BE AWESOME!!!! ; )

and original!
LEEE777 - 8/12/2009, 5:02 AM
RIDDLER would not be in this, especially if he's a fav for DARK KNIGHT 3!

JOKER would be in small cameo mode too!

It'll be mainly FLASH, GA and other second stringer Super-villains!
LEEE777 - 8/12/2009, 5:06 AM


JON HAMM (MAD MEN) = GA.
LEEE777 - 8/12/2009, 5:17 AM
I'm with Brent, it sounds very similar to Daredevil's Devil In Cellblock D story arc. I'd rather see an origin story centered around the Emerald Archer, but I would'nt kick this movie to the curb. Looking forward to it, but not holding my breath.
longbowhunter - 8/12/2009, 6:58 AM
@ the face

thats kind of why i think this should be a sequel. no costume? no bow?? that doesn't sound like a good idea for a first green arrow movie. most people don't know who green arrow is. so they should do a regular origin type movie to introduce him to the general public, then this.
CorndogBurglar - 8/12/2009, 7:00 AM
If this does get made I hope it doesn't get screwed up.
Bandrews1 - 8/12/2009, 7:10 AM
more politicking by lee77. pretty soon they'll be a green arrow poll
superdog - 8/12/2009, 9:09 AM
Agreed CDB. Green Arrow isnt exactly superman or Batman in terms of general knowlege by the public, so I think many people will be confused putting a somewhat obscure character in a movie that disassociates itself from that characters iconic image and MO. Its a weird way to introduce him to the general public.

CaptianBOOMering... thinking an idea is stupid or weird does not make me or anyone else here scared. It just means we think its a stupid or weird idea. Thats all.
Shadowelfz - 8/12/2009, 9:29 AM
Give us the Daredevil storyline instead and give us the following b4 a GA flick.

Nightwing
BatGirl (I'll probably get some ribbing on this one but I think it could be a cool flick)
Flash

spideysweb - 8/12/2009, 10:02 AM
ya i wuz on caps side durin civil war, and ror, it was sidewinder an the plunderer punisher killed off. i luved that frank just wouldnt fight bak

woo hoo
jallanr - 8/12/2009, 10:11 AM
Jon Hamm for GA!
NightAvenger4 - 8/12/2009, 12:00 PM
As a huge Green Arrow fan myself, I think that this concept, while cool, would never work as movie. I mean the guy's called "Green Arrow" for Christsakes! You take away the green and the arrows and what do you got? You might as well just go ahead and cast Supermike! Why would anyone at DC want to waste one of their flagship characters on a movie like this when Green Arrow needs an origin movie first to introduce him to the general public. Not to mention the fact that Green Arrow has such a strong supporting cast in the comics (Connor Hawke, Dinah Lance=Black Canary, Roy Harper=Red Arrow, Mia=Speedy, Hal Jordan, etc., etc., the list goes on) why would you want to make a GA movie WITHOUT these characters considering what kind of dynamics they could bring to a movie. I'm sorry, but that's just retarded. Why wouldn't they just make of movie based on Kevin Smith's run on the book. Now there is a brilliant piece of writing!
MatchesMalone - 8/12/2009, 12:10 PM
Josh Holloway as GA!!! Goyer for the trash can!!! Grif is right, he's an untalented bitch. He always has to get his work "re-touched" and "spruced up". Can't do a damn thing on his own.
Shaman - 8/12/2009, 12:37 PM
Shaman hit the mark again

Josh Holloway would be a great GA
BillyBlack - 8/12/2009, 3:14 PM
corndogrobber@ i thank your oppinon i agree with your thought ps nice name
captainBOOMerang - 8/12/2009, 4:42 PM
Alexander Skarsgard for Green Arrow. I think the Super Max idea sounds very good. I don't care if they stole it from DareDevil or not. If you look hard enough everything has been done or based off of something else anyways.
Juicerules - 8/12/2009, 6:31 PM
i want deadshot in this played by jeffery dean morgan!

shaman-you should do a josh holloway sketch!
NightAvenger4 - 8/13/2009, 6:16 AM
NewAvenger4- He's definitely on my list! I even have the picture i'll base the sketch from. Thing is, i'm overloaded with sketch projects right now but it will be done!!!

Good call on that deadshot choice!
Shaman - 8/13/2009, 7:25 AM
First, Clearly Cap and the rebels were right in Civil War. And this could never be a live-action movie - WAAAAAYYYY too many characters needed to do it right. Maybe a straight-to-DVD animated one like Next Avengers.

Second, the script for this came out BEFORE the Daredevil comic strip - so I have no problem with using GA for it.

Third, I like the fact that its not your usual "origin" story. Why does every superhero movie have to be the first time they decide to be a hero? Let's do something different for once. And just because he has a large part of the movie in prison doesn't mean they won't have other characters coming to visit him (Canary, Speedy) or even trying to help him from the outside (Arsenal, Connor). A good script could definitely use all of those people. I think the idea sounds completely bad-ass.

Fourth, does anybody else find it weird that Lee777 "winks" at everybody at the end of all his posts? Why does "Supermax will be Awesome" need a " ;) " at the end of it??????
CarlLucasLukeCage - 8/14/2009, 7:36 AM
CARL @ ; )

Heh heh.
LEEE777 - 8/15/2009, 7:10 AM
shaman-what other projects do you have?
NightAvenger4 - 8/16/2009, 10:09 PM
I want to see them tie in Robin a.k.a. Dick Grayson into the new Dark Knight movie series and do a Nightwing spin off.
nightwing345 - 8/23/2009, 2:42 AM

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