EDITORIAL: What That 8 Year Gap Could Mean For The Dark Knight Rises

EDITORIAL: What That 8 Year Gap Could Mean For The Dark Knight Rises

Christopher Nolan has revealed that the final chapter in his Batman trilogy will be set 8 years after The Dark Knight. Cause for alarm? I don't think so. Click for my thoughts...

Editorial Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Nov 21, 2011 10:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman

In the new edition of Empire magazine, Christopher Nolan makes some pretty startling revelations about the upcoming closer to his Batman trilogy. Probably the most interesting news to come from it is that TDKR will be set a whole 8 years after the last movie. This has been met with a mixed reaction here on CBM and while I certainly understand the worry, I think it's the best thing that could have happened.

As soon as this movie was announced I remember hoping that Nolan would set it a substantial amount of time after The Dark Knight but I really never thought WB would go for it... certainly not more than a couple of years. I think it shows a lot of guts on the studio's part to trust Nolan with this vision. But what could it mean for the story? Well I think first and foremost there is a definite influence from Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns here. In that superb graphic novel we find a much older Bruce Wayne (more like 50 than TDKR's 40ish) compelled to once again don the cape and cowl and become Batman by just how horrendous Gotham City has become in his absence. His reasons for retiring in the first place are only hinted at in that story, but we know that at the end of The Dark Knight Bruce was forced to become an outlaw to protect the (false) good name of Harvey Dent. Clearly this will be the catalyst for him hanging up the tights, and based on what we have seen we know that the remorseless Bane (much like The Mutant Leader in The Dark Knight Returns) will be the reason he puts them back on again. It's also a safe bet given the recent pic of Bane holding up a picture of Dent that he will be bringing that house of cards crashing to the ground too.



Now as anyone who has read The Dark Knight Returns can attest to, Bruce Wayne's dawning realization that he must once again become Batman and his subsequent rebirth as The Caped Crusader is one of the most epic things ever to grace the pages of a comic book. We get to see a version of that in a movie. How can that be anything but a good thing? I'm not saying Nolan is going to take direct influence from how that plays out in the graphic novel but whatever way he does it, that is part of the story we are going to get. Some fans are concerned about what has supposed to have transpired in those 8 years but I honestly don't see that it really matters. I'm sure we will get an explanation in the movie but even if we don't, just assume that Wayne reverted to the public image of the playboy and lived his life. What is important is that he has lost his edge, lost his focus and walked away from his calling. And we will see him come back with a vengeance. Taking the story up immediately after the events of The Dark Knight would have been predictable, this way it adds yet another layer to the character and the story.

Another consequence of this could well be the end of Batman. I think it's unlikely he will die, but is it a possibility? Think about it. We know this is Nolan's last Batman flick and that he wants to end his trilogy in true epic fashion. That 8 year gap also means that someone else coming on board to continue the story is very unlikely and that means a reboot. So that does pretty much give Nolan free reign. We already know that this world he has created for Batman is not directly influenced by any one comic nor does is share a movie universe with any other DC characters. Yes killing Batman would piss of a lot of people but hey, it's been done in the comics right? Sure he came back eventually but that is irrelevant. As I said I doubt it will happen but I also wouldn't rule it out completely.

One way or the other I think we are in for something very special. If you still have doubts look at it like this. If you loved Nolan's last two Batman movies then what makes you think he is going to drop the ball on this one? Hell if like me you love ALL of Nolan's movies do you really think he is going to mess up what could go down in history as one of, if not the greatest trilogy of all time? I think not. Of course you may not like the last two Batman flicks or any of Nolan's movies. But then why care anyway? I for one couldn't be happier with these new details. But if you have a problem with em share below and let's get the debate rolling.




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WolvieCBM
WolvieCBM - 11/21/2011, 10:43 AM
In BEGINS, he was also gone for quite some time. And then he returned to Gotham to change things, etc... This 8 years gap sounds good and it will definitely be interesting. I just hope that the story won't repeat itself.

Great write-up @Ror!
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 11/21/2011, 10:45 AM
well,that explains why Bruce looks so goddamn old :P
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 11/21/2011, 10:48 AM
btw,insert random "ZOMG NOLANGODGENIUSAHHH" here :P
Poopyman
Poopyman - 11/21/2011, 10:50 AM
if he dies then why call it "The Dark Knight Rises".
Trapdinsteel
Trapdinsteel - 11/21/2011, 10:52 AM
@Poopyman - because he rises up to heaven? :P
StrangerX
StrangerX - 11/21/2011, 10:53 AM
Nice article Ror..
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 11/21/2011, 10:53 AM
Well, he would rise first! But I doubt he will die, just throwing it out there as a possibility.
TheAmazingSpidey63
TheAmazingSpidey63 - 11/21/2011, 10:53 AM
Yeah, that would explain why Bruce has a cane from those set pics. It's cool how they influence Mark Millers' "The Dark Knight Returns" with this movie.

Awesome editorial, @Ror!!
nuck82
nuck82 - 11/21/2011, 10:55 AM
new edition!!!!!!!!


bazinga
TheAmazingSpidey63
TheAmazingSpidey63 - 11/21/2011, 10:56 AM
Not that much of an influence from Mark Millers' "The Dark Knight Returns", but just a little in the movie. It's pretty interesting. :)
Fogs
Fogs - 11/21/2011, 10:56 AM
Something isn't clear to me, Nolan said Batman was inactive through these 8 years? Because I didn't understand it that way.
LtAnarchy
LtAnarchy - 11/21/2011, 10:57 AM
Couldnt it also be possible that he gets his back broke and thats why he takes an 8 year hiatus?
Kaedus
Kaedus - 11/21/2011, 10:57 AM
8 year's is a LONG time. I just hope that Bane showing Harvey Dent's pictures are still relevant and not just a nod to the last movie. In 8 years it's easy to forget about something.
Bartman87
Bartman87 - 11/21/2011, 10:57 AM
Batman dying would be a sh!7 ending and why can't another director pick up from Nolan's "vision" not that I want more Nolanesque Batman. Really want more Batmanesque Batman, an genius and a crime fighter who can actually use his intellect to deduce the crimes. Nolan has done a really great job at giving us a Batman who has effectively been targeting the crime bosses of Gotham.
AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 11/21/2011, 10:59 AM
poopyman@ Good point.

I bet he just becomes the gotham´s protector again or something.
PoPcornDude
PoPcornDude - 11/21/2011, 11:00 AM
so after 8 years, Bane still taking about Harvey Dent ???

I supposse something more 'important' would've happend in 8 years....
AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 11/21/2011, 11:02 AM
Bartman87@ Agree.
ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 11/21/2011, 11:03 AM
yeah...just read this...it's brilliant...

http://comicbookmovie.com/batman_movies/batman_the_dark_knight_rises/news/?a=41684
Guerillas
Guerillas - 11/21/2011, 11:04 AM
spidey63, its frank miller not marik millars!
headlopper
headlopper - 11/21/2011, 11:07 AM
Very interesting.
There's obviously some practical reason why 8 years needed to pass.
Maybe that's how long it took to build the Batcave and other vehicles and tech.
Either way, it'll all make sense, because Nolan doesn't like loose ends in his story-telling.

I'm hoping Warner's sets up a 'Batman Beyond' future, cuz that's what I'd like to see.
thalidomide
thalidomide - 11/21/2011, 11:10 AM
Well I hope you're right Ror, I enjoyed reading The Dark Knight Returns so I guess if they somehow stick to that storyline maybe this film won't suck after all. I think I'm going to read the book again :) Nice article btw.
WingPow
WingPow - 11/21/2011, 11:13 AM
Well written article with interesting perspectives.

I think, that we should not underestimate Catwoman's role in this movie. I think she will dictate the plot, or should I say ending, a lot more than we may think.
ejkousc
ejkousc - 11/21/2011, 11:18 AM
I do like how they seem to be combining The Dark Knight Returns with No Man's Land and Knightfall. Very clever. I dont think Batman will die though. Nolan need not kill Batman to assure thatWB doesn't continue his story without him. The average layman movie goer associates this franchise with Bale not Nolan. So long as Bale is done with the part it's pretty irrellevent whether WB wishes to continue this Batman story. Nolan is done, but WB will no doubt ATTEMPT to ask Bale back and when that fails they will reboot. But if Bale is commited to not returning they really dont need to kill Batman. And by the way killing a main character is not always "EPIC". It's not always right and it's not always neccesary. It's a question of whether your character dramatically speaking deserves to die. An eight year absence and injury is death enough. I don't think they're going to reward this guy with an actual death death on top of things. You dont have to kill the protagonist just to give a saga a sense of conclusion.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 11/21/2011, 11:18 AM
I don't care about the 8 years. Nolan always makes a good story. What I care is that won't be venom. It was one of the best things. I can understand characters like Joker to have make up because these are all about the plans, but Bane has also muscles, too.
DeadGuyWalking
DeadGuyWalking - 11/21/2011, 11:20 AM
They never said he still wasn't out there fighting crime in those 8 years. Maybe he just kept to the shadows and gave up the Batman persona. Then when Gotham is at its worst and needs hope he steps out of the shadows as Batman again. He is what Gotham needs him to be
skidz
skidz - 11/21/2011, 11:21 AM
Great write up! His motivation(s) for coming back could be inspired by The Dark Knight Returns, but I think what happens DURING the story may be more influenced by Knightfall: The Broken Bat and Knights End. If Bruce dies, here's hoping Nolan doesn't screw things up by leaving Bane alive or free to roam!
xtckillz
xtckillz - 11/21/2011, 11:21 AM
BRING ON THE BATMAN BEYOND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheAmazingSpidey63
TheAmazingSpidey63 - 11/21/2011, 11:22 AM
@Guerillas - Oh, thanks, man. Only now I noticed my mistake. Dang it! :P
headlopper
headlopper - 11/21/2011, 11:22 AM
Plus 8 years gives Batman more time to hone his crime fighting/detective skills and establish his rep throughout the city.
Nolan's a genius. Trust his judgement.
thewolfx
thewolfx - 11/21/2011, 11:25 AM
so in 8 years hes still wearing that shitty bobblehead suit riding the same tired ass vehicles *excluding the batmechthingy he calls a batwing*


i guess nolan is allergic to the word upgrade
StrangerX
StrangerX - 11/21/2011, 11:34 AM
I just thought he needed the 8yrs to fully recover from having his back broken..
DocDrop
DocDrop - 11/21/2011, 11:37 AM
@Spidey63... I think you mean, FRANK Miller!
Xandera
Xandera - 11/21/2011, 11:39 AM
I am not worried... it's gonna be epic.
Irons
Irons - 11/21/2011, 11:45 AM
@ironman53 Who says he's still in Arkham? Who says he isn't? Why are you royally pissed off about such a small detail that hasn't been revealed yet and probably won't be until the movie comes out?
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