Simon Kinberg Maintains That FANTASTIC FOUR Is A "Big Part" Of Fox's Marvel Plans Moving Forward

Simon Kinberg Maintains That FANTASTIC FOUR Is A "Big Part" Of Fox's Marvel Plans Moving Forward

Like it or not, the rights to the Fantastic Four franchise clearly aren't going back to Marvel Studios any time soon. Simon Kinberg explains here what went wrong with the reboot and why they're trying again.

By JoshWilding - Jun 01, 2016 03:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four
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Fantastic Four is one of the biggest critical and commerical failures in recent memory, while the behind the scenes chaos which led to that is one of the most interesting stories to come out of Hollywood for years (especially when it was revealed that one of the cast members very nearly came to blows with director Josh Trank). Now, during a recent podcast appearance to promote X-Men: Apocalypse, writer and producer Simon Kinberg opened up on where he believes they may have gone wrong with it. 

"I don’t think that there is, in any movie that doesn’t work, a single decision that is the reason that that movie doesn’t work," he explained. "I think that there were many decisions we made along the way that led to a movie that people didn’t like and to a movie that I would do differently next time. I think the biggest takeaway for me the tone of the movie, while really interesting and ambitious, ran counter to the DNA of the source material. I think the source material of Fantastic Four is bright, optimistic, poppy in tone. There’s a sort of plucky spirit to those characters, and we made a darker, sort of body-horror kind of version of Fantastic Four, which again as I say it now sounds really interesting and cerebrally ambitious, but isn’t necessarily Fantastic Four."
 
That's an interesting perspective, but it's hard to say whether or not he's right, especially as the first two Fantastic Four movies adopted that tone and ended up still being terrible. Could it be that these characters just don't work in live-action? Either way, Fox isn't giving up. "It’s a big part of [Fox’s superhero] plan going forward.… I would love to continue making movies with that cast." We know that isn't going to happen, so a reboot somewhere down the line is probably the most likely option. 
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MattBellissimo
MattBellissimo - 6/1/2016, 4:06 PM
@MarkJulian - Thank you, Mark.
CrappyNappy
CrappyNappy - 6/1/2016, 10:53 PM
@MarkJulian - What's gonna happen to this article? Since this has already been reported on here before?
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 6/2/2016, 3:10 AM
@CrappyNappy - I'm sure Josh will promptly delete it and return the money he got from the clicks...
Dommeatm
Dommeatm - 6/2/2016, 8:04 AM
@Spock0Clock - He really should start putting a next button between paragraphs.
Thompson
Thompson - 6/1/2016, 3:55 PM
[frick]ing pisses me off, that's all I have to say.
Luminus
Luminus - 6/1/2016, 11:53 PM
@Thompson - Right? What the frak is the problem with these guys? I swear this is the only franchise in history that continues to fail, but the studio insists on making reboots/sequels to it. They seem to have an aggressive desire to fail.
TheEpicJuicebox
TheEpicJuicebox - 6/1/2016, 3:57 PM
Disgusting how fox won't let this franchise die
Luminus
Luminus - 6/1/2016, 11:55 PM
@TheEpicJuicebox - Yes, it is.
Shanksman
Shanksman - 6/2/2016, 3:49 AM
@TheEpicJuicebox - This franchise shouldn't die. But they need to give it back to Marvel. MS could definitely make a great Fantastic Four movie, no fcking doubt.
TheEpicJuicebox
TheEpicJuicebox - 6/2/2016, 12:37 PM
@Shanksman - yeah I know but for now it needs to die and be revived by marvel in like phase 4's end as the future foundation because the FF4 title is going to be a black mark on its films
TheBeard
TheBeard - 6/1/2016, 3:58 PM
Quit talking out of your ass Kinberg.
BatmanHeisenberg
BatmanHeisenberg - 6/1/2016, 4:00 PM
Unless those plans are to give the rights to Marvel, they should just stop. Like, now.
Kr08
Kr08 - 6/1/2016, 4:02 PM
I don't know why, but I'm so [frick]ing curious to see what happens next.
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 6/1/2016, 4:58 PM
*Like this comment if you think Fox should take a look at this screenplay!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/act-ii-of-fantastic-four-in-the-negative-zone-an-unlicensed-work-of-fan-a130925


*shameless self promotion
ager
ager - 6/1/2016, 7:35 PM
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 6/2/2016, 8:19 AM
@ager - I was gonna leave a comment until I realized that's from two years ago, and I left some comments when it was first uploaded! I think even back then I noticed a lotta similarities between our pitches, same antagonist, some of the same supporting characters. It's a shame how all the images timed out, same thing happened to any articles I posted before I stopped using CBM's image uploader, which they got rid of to save memory.

I remember the problem I had with your artwork was that it was too vertical, it required so much scrolling past pictures that the writing itself wasn't as prominent. Since then, I started using more advanced formatting techniques where I separate images into two categories: banners and aligned, banners represent establishing shots and environments, while aligned images are taller and sit beside the text. Enough users have asked me to, so I'm gonna write a formatting tutorial one of these days, so ideally anyone can use these techniques.

Still working on finishing Act III, which is supposed to be more spaced out and trippy than the first two acts, but that won't be out for a while since I'm gonna be away from the computer all summer long. Hopefully with all three acts combined the screenplay can develop more of a following, and I have some more long-term plans for the sequel, including collaborating with BossLogic to show people how the actors would look as these characters. Fox really should consider taking a look at my planned universe, so many iconic characters can be brought to the big screen in such a unique way, with a different tone than the MCU or XMCU.
ager
ager - 6/2/2016, 8:16 PM
@WeddingTux - hey man I really need to learn all of that do please tag me because I'm so lame I can't even do pictures at this point because it's too tech for my tiny brain
Gibman
Gibman - 6/1/2016, 4:03 PM
It had nothing to do with the fact that it was terribly written poorly edited not very well acted terribly executed on the technical level special-effects lighting music the overall story was bland which I believe Kinberg wrote he should've come out and say it sucked because all of this just beating around the bush
obarium
obarium - 6/1/2016, 4:39 PM
@Gibman - "I don’t think that there is, in any movie that doesn’t work, a single decision that is the reason that that movie doesn’t work," he explained. "I think that there were many decisions we made along the way that led to a movie that people didn’t like..."

He kept it vague to keep his job. If he said what he really thought he'd probably be shown the door.
THRILLHO
THRILLHO - 6/1/2016, 4:03 PM
Beetleborg
Beetleborg - 6/1/2016, 4:04 PM
Idk why anyone would want the rights to go to marvel.

They aren't very keen on using actual super powered characters. They always fall to the wayside for the ones that do physical combat/spy style shit.

They'd probably use the thing pretty well
thegreathulk
thegreathulk - 6/1/2016, 4:35 PM
@Beetleborg - Lol you can't be serious..
Menks123
Menks123 - 6/1/2016, 4:35 PM
@Beetleborg - umm...Scarlet Witch, Spiderman, Black Panther, Thor, Hulk, soon to be Dr. Strange and Captain America say otherwise on that assessment.

They only use "spy style" for the fitting movies, a la Winter Soldier.
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