One Fan's Opinion on the DCU and cameos

One Fan's Opinion on the DCU and cameos

One Fan's Opinion on the DCU and cameos

Editorial Opinion
By undertaker7 - Jun 25, 2013 05:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

Man of Steel II
Man of Steel II would be the perfect place for a Wonder Woman appearance. Half cameo, half introduction. It wouldn't be a main part of the plot, just a way of overlaying how alone Clark is in this world. Skip over how she met Colonel Trevor and how she became Ambassador to for the Amazons. Show it from Kal's viewpoint. Huge story breaks, our go to DC reporter, Ms.Lane needs to get the scoop, Clark sees her from a far and decides he needs to meet her as Superman. She shrugs him off and acts as if she is just another man, despite what she may feel, again overlying Kal's "alone" feeling. Have this push him closer to Lois, propelling the movie forward possibly introducing Lex instead of Doomsday, simply because having Metropolis blown 1/2 way to heck in MOS I and II back to back may be a bit much.. But either way. Intro WW. Add story accordingly. I would also like hints at "a giant bat in Gotham" perhaps on a newspaper in a random scene, or Ma Kent asking Clark, "Why a cape, you wanna be like that lunatic in Gotham?". I want him to start off as a legend, a myth. I know everybody wants a World's Finest, calm yourselves, not yet.

Wonder Woman
Next, do a WW movie already. Done correctly, she is an amazon badass and will gain respect. I would start the movie off with showing what was not shown in my MOS II. Trevor finding the island, bla bla bla, if they use their source material, its not that hard to put a WW move together, that animated film was alright, do something like that. Anyway, I would use this flick as a way to intro Arthur, smaller than WW cameo in MOSII. Maybe a flashback.. Thymescira is an island, Aquaman controls the seas, its logical they could have met at some point, perhaps in their youth. Or maybe it happens at the end, with WW going back to her island and finding it invaded or occupied by Atlanteans ending with a shot of Arthur and a "So, Princess Diana, I presume?" Being near the leadership of two ancient civilizations hidden from man, it would be logical, especially to the general audience, that they would know of each other. Again hints of the Batman.

The Flash
FLASH! How the heck does Steel(played by Shaq) get a movie before Barry Allen?! By the way if Shaq had a cameo in MOSII as a nod to fans about that ridiculous Steel movie I would drop to the floor immediately! I think the Flash can hold his own movie, if anything I would have the big guy have sort of N.Fury role in a way and have him show up at the end of some epic Flash story, not with him saying "We're putting a team together", but him introducing himself. I would like to have a Flash/Lantern movie but I don't know if Reynold's Hal fits in this universe. Save that for Flash II or GL I or II. I also think having Allen run through Gotham for whatever reason, and have him, even in super speed, think he saw something(a bat shape), only to check back and fine nothing would have me giggling in my seat.

Green Lantern
Moving to GL.. Part of me wants a sequel to Reynolds, mostly in space. Start off with an old school cop chase, just for fun, like, Into Darkness, an opening scene that has nothing to do with the overall plot. Then moving on to an epic Sinestro vs. Hal story line, like First Flight, ending with Hal going back to earth to see Carol, or better yet, his ring signals him back because of what happened in MOSI having him arrive, not in time to help, but showing how he met Clark.. Then again, going the Unlimited route and utilizing John Stewart may be easier or more enjoyable. Plus, lets be honest, there are not a whole lot of colored main stage members of the League, so that is also an upside. Either way, perhaps, being a space epic, this could be a way to intro MM. Or at least introduce the existence of Martians or that they existed at one time.

Namor.. I mean
Aquaman. It can be done. I, I know it, c-can. Done correctly, Arthur should feel like a cross between King Arthur(Camelot) and Thor, with a touch of MOS's Zod, living for his people and all. Having him vs. the surface world is almost too big, WW, GL, SM, Flash, Bats, how could they not get involved? I say save that arc and have an old school linear origin story, maybe I'm wrong, our generation does like its flashbacks, but it would be a refreshing take compared to the other films. Then again this would be great chance for everyone to meet, maybe the Atlanteans vs. the surface could work. Have Bruce stay on the side lines, seeing, watching, understanding. I see a scene with SM, WW, AM, F, GL, all being caught on camera after saving the day, panning back with us realizing that we are watching this on the batcave monitor! Ending with the heroes agreeing they are on the same side and not forming a team just yet but agreeing they are "super" friends, if you will. Also making Clark feel the need to investigate this Gotham Bat myth.

World's Finest
Before JL, we need a World's Finest. I don't care how they do it, just do it right. This relationship of uneasy trust needs to be established before JL. I see small cameos from Robin(Dick), Alfred, Lois, Jimmy, and more. This could be a mini JL movie if done right. I think a reworked version of public enemies or the animated World's Finest would be insane. Bats being the only one who defends Kal even though they just met, Clark not trusting him at all at first but building through the film. I'm not sure a Lex and Joker team up or Lex being the Prez would work, but like I said, a reworked version.

The Justice League
J L . I really enjoyed the New 52 JL debut. The world vs. Darkseid. I personally would love this film. Is it the right choice? Maybe not, but since this is all my fictitious version of the start of the DCU, then yes. Why yes, it is the right choice. If they get the build up right. Then the League will work no matter what. Was the Avengers an amazing and compelling story, No. Did I see it in the theaters 4 times, Yes.

Cyborg, MM, Shazam, the Hawks, Red Tornado, Robin/Nightwing, Green Arrow, and all the rest I'll save for someone else to conspire. I think these ideas could work and I had to get them out of my head.

Henry is my Superman. Diana, Arthur, Barry, JS/HJ, and especially Bruce after years of hinting at his legend, are very big shoes to fill. But it can, and Odin willing, will be done.

All HAIL GENERAL ZOD!

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Minato
Minato - 6/25/2013, 6:20 PM
Most peoples problem with a Worlds Finest movie is that they want Batman and Superman to meet the first time in a Justice League movie. I dont agree I dont want the Justice League movie to be hampered by trying to explain the dynamics and relationship of Bruce and Clark. I want it to already be established so that they can focus on the plot and not the fact that its the first time we see Batman and Superman on the screen together. If the Justice League movie is to be great I dont need too much focus on the bickering and uneasiness of the first time the team meets. Superman being as powerful as he is gives Batman credibility if Clark suggests that he needs the very human Bruce on the team. JMHO
undertaker7
undertaker7 - 6/25/2013, 6:59 PM
Couldn't agree more.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 6/25/2013, 8:00 PM
Great another editorial where someone does The Marvel Way with DC characters. Because we don't have hundreds of these right?
kong
kong - 6/26/2013, 2:20 AM
Why do people keep making characters cameo's so big in MOS 2. AFTER CREDITS SCENE!!!! Superman's fighting Metallo and right before Metallo kills him you see a batarang fly in and electrocute Metallo.
TheNightGuardian
TheNightGuardian - 6/26/2013, 6:21 AM
Very Good Article,But I have a question that features Green Lantern..If Reynold's/GL going the Dc universe,how are they going to include or introduce him with the Zack Snyder,David Goyer Stating That Man of steel is First Stage And Movie Of A Dc Universe.

And another thing,Carol ferris was included in man of steel but with a different Character,Is THAT Mean GL Is Rebooted Or What ?

I'm A bit Confused.
TheNightGuardian
TheNightGuardian - 6/26/2013, 6:44 AM
Sorry Forgot To Say In *
undertaker7
undertaker7 - 6/26/2013, 10:52 PM
So was her name literally Carol Ferris or was it just implied? I missed that my first time through. I never saw Reynolds as Hal. If they did reboot it, I wouldn't mind. However it could work. Like I said before, Im uncertain on what to do with GL.

The reason I don't feel a stand alone JL movie would work is because I feel there would be too much time spent on explaining why these characters act the way they do and why they interact with each other the way they do. Go back and watch the Avengers with this train of thought: there have been no other movies, this is the launching pad.... Try it, honestly.

Why does Sam Jackson have an eye patch, is this a sequel to Shaft? Who's Coulson? Is this emo guy from space? So he's bullet proof? Why did Barton Hawk just shoot Shaft? Is that Robin Scherbatsky? Why is Scarlett Johanen willingly tied to a chair in what looks to be Russia? Who is Gweneth Paltrow playing? Why is Sherlock Holmes such a dick? Why is everyone afraid of Mark Ruffalo? Isn't that Johnny Storm? Did he bleach his hair? Wait, was he frozen? Are they seriously going to skip over that? So he carries a shield but no sword? So this carrier ship can fly? Is he seriously dressed as a flag? Why the f*@! would he carry a shield and no sword? Is that Fabio? No, too young. Wait, his hammer makes him fly? What the f, wait they're brothers? Jet black hair and bleach blonde hair? Brothers? So this Captain is from WWII and Im just supposed to accept that with no explanation? And where is Fabio and his punk rock brother from? If Sherlock has a suit, why doesn't every normal powerless person have one? They don't get along, I thought this was a team movie? So Hawk Barton is a bad guy? Wait what the f&#! is happening to Mark Ruffalo? Is there no Dr. on this flying navy ship? He's having a heart att, no he's turning green.... What the f*%@! This makes no sense! Who are these badly lit faces Shaft keeps talking to? Scherbatsky looks good in leather. Wait is Sam Jackson playing Shaft or that cop from the other guys? So Mark Ruffalo is a bike thief? So Hawk Barton is a good guy again? Did he a Scarjo go to the same highschool? They appear to know each other. Pretty fun battle scene but these aliens seriously just pass out because their mothership got nuked? Is Sherlock supposed to be funny, I don't get it? So, no one gets arrested? Hawkman shot Shaft, Mark Ruffalo assaulted a women, Sherlock consumed alcohol and then drove a super powered suit, Shaft shot an RPG at a nuclear capable jet, Fabio interfered with a federal arrest, Captain frozen trespassed and stole government evidence.. And they all just leave with smiles?! 1/2 of New York is missing?

This last parts for us.
And where the [frick] was Spiderman? Isn't the Baxter Building just down the street? Is Xavier's mansion not in the state of New York anymore? No one hired Cage or the Iron Fist? Isn't Dr.Strange's House in Downtown NY? So what, did Splinter ban his turtles from the surface for the week? Murdock too busy with a case? I suppose Wesly Snipes won't get involved unless there's vampires or Woody Harrelson.

A little over dramatic and meant to be humerous, still, similar problems would occur even with a MOS movie before JL. Too much time would be spent on relationships not yet established. It is possible that it could be done. However, this is WB we are talking about. It took the failure of SM Returns and 7 years to get MOS. Do we really want to wait another 7 years for a restart of a DCU after a failed, rushed JL movie simply because WB thought they could cash in on our generations obsession with superheroes? I'm fine with waiting. The "marvel way" as so many people call it isn't soley MArvel. It's simply a way on which to bring a group of very different characters together. No matter what, I'll watch whatever movie they flush out, I will go and see it.

By the way quickly: A lot of people complained about S killing Zod at the end. I would like to point out that not only does S kill Zod in the comics but if you watch SII, he takes away Zod, Faeora, and the big guy's powers then one by one they all fall down a bottomless pit. So, they die, not as graphically, but they die.

Plus as a bonus Fiora could come back in a MOS sequel since she did not technically die.

All Hail Zod.
tonytony
tonytony - 6/27/2013, 4:41 AM
I would like to see agent faraday who is dcu equivalent of coulson but was created before coulson. He could be used to tie characters together.
tonytony
tonytony - 6/27/2013, 7:57 AM
@dellamorte waller makes sense too. Maybe they could have both.
undertaker7
undertaker7 - 6/28/2013, 4:08 PM
A JLA movie could work just great. I just get nervous when WB tries using any character other than BM or SM. Then again Smallville had a lot of interesting moments and Arrow aint too bad. So perhaps they could finally make it happen. Hopefully before Transformers 7 comes out?!

F#@!it, just make a Captain Planet Movie.
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