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New Superman Movie is "In a Weird Place"

Director James McTeigue thinks Superman is "ripe for a retooling."
A new Superman movie...Is it on? Is it off? Will it be a prequel, a sequel or a revamp?


















It seems that the theatrical fate of the Man of Steel is up in the air, for the time being. Director James McTeigue (V for Vendetta) is the man rumored to be on the short list for helming another film, but even he is not sure what's going on. On Friday, McTeigue told MTV:


"[The Superman movie is] in a weird place at the moment. They're trying to work out what they're doing. Warner Brothers is trying to figure out their next move on it. There's some things you can do with the Superman franchise, there's other things you can't do. So it hasn't gone anywhere."

McTeigue is currently promoting his latest film, Ninja Assassin, but added this about the Superman franchise:

"I think it's ripe for a retooling. I would love to — if it happened, I would at least start a conversation about it.
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Brent Sprecher
11/17/2009
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132 Comments

You will believe a man can FLY!!!





I say SEQUEL (slash) REBOOT and lose the [frick]ing kid!!

BRANDON ROUTH is the perfect SUPERMAN!
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 3:53 PM
What the hell is wrong with WB?! A new Superman movie is practically guaranteed to earn a pile of cash but they're sitting on their asses letting the character gather dust! ;(
JoshW - 11/16/2009, 3:54 PM
if Jon Peters is still the producer i aint watching it.
jazzman - 11/16/2009, 3:56 PM
Exactly @ JOSH, exactly!!
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 3:57 PM
Damn, weed will be legal by the time they decide to do anything with the Superman franchise!
WEAPON420 - 11/16/2009, 3:59 PM
WB is built on procrastination. A justice league film is a nerd's wet dream (I have had such a dream). Superman has so much potential to make another great movie. I still think that 1978's superman stands as the greatest cbm ever made, but that was over 30 years ago. We need a new supes movie, and definitely not a rehash of the original. Hopefully green lantern will show WB, that they need to step their game up a little
supermarioworldE - 11/16/2009, 4:00 PM
Good lord.Why is this so hard?Clark goes to Metropolis, meets his supporting cast, becomes Superman, saves alot of people, draws the ire of Lex Luthor, Brainiac comes to Earth, tries to steal our knowledge before destroying the world, teams up with Lex, huge battles, cool special FX, good triumphs over evil, end credits.

Simple.
kenny38606 - 11/16/2009, 4:02 PM
Retool??? I don't want this guy anywhere near the franchise!
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 4:04 PM
Don;t doubt the Routh! tell em Leee!
Misterfan - 11/16/2009, 4:07 PM
im up for a reboot until they have a good story. they need to hire a good director and find a good screen writter to handle this project. Superman been messed about for too long WB need to get their act together.
jazzman - 11/16/2009, 4:10 PM
Not opposed to a reboot, but Burton imagined a retooling. Do I need to post a Cage pic?
Phinehas - 11/16/2009, 4:13 PM
if they stand any chance of going against marvel by making a JLA movie, then they'll need to reboot this and batman. then make movies for flash, wonderwoman, and green arrow. GL is already on the way. they can introduce martian manhunter, and aquaman (if need be) in the JLA movie. but my god they have a LOT of work ahead of themselves. they've already said they wanted to follow the Marverl Formula, so what the hell is taking so long?

it's F'ing superman! that should be the easiest one for them to crank out, my god
CorndogBurglar - 11/16/2009, 4:15 PM
that nic cage pic lol

i dont think McTeigue mean it that way i hope lol
jazzman - 11/16/2009, 4:16 PM
I doubt we'll see a jla movie in the next 15 years.
thwhtGuardian - 11/16/2009, 4:17 PM
WEAPON420- LOL!

I don't think there has ever been a good superman movie.
all the good one's are animated.

superman/doomsday best superman flick ever.

or any justice league/ justice league unlimited cartoon.
peterparker420 - 11/16/2009, 4:20 PM
we could all be dead by the time they get
the Superman movie off the ground .
thanks a mill you a-- holes,,,
georgia49th - 11/16/2009, 4:25 PM
Jesus, WB get a move on! There is a huge potential for $$$ right in front of you, but your eyes are so far up your asses you can't see it!

Just reboot it with Routh!

Routhboot!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/16/2009, 4:28 PM
A reboot is needed, they'd be crazy to think they can continue with what has been done in Returns. If they do what will the story be, The Last Father of Krypton? That may work if done by DC writers for a comic arc but in a movie, that won't fly!
WEAPON420 - 11/16/2009, 4:38 PM
"There's some things you can do with the Superman franchise, there's other things you can't do."

What the heck do they not want to do? Hell, if the WB has any clue then why did they court Tim Burton, and let it fall to the hands of Jon Peters? I hope this means that DC Entertainment now has "standards" to uphold on the character. WB let the franchise suffer from serious sequalitis (a fate that killed the first Batman series) then let it bounce from sorry hand to sorry hand. Kevin Smith was the only one who might have had a grasp but was replaced with an insider that was proven. Then it was brought back with a film fan who had no concept of the principles of the Comic Character.

I have read here that the character needs to be "modernized" with new suit, background, look, values, friends, job, dark attitude etc. etc.. What happen is a change to the character in his values ended up upsetting longtime fans and hurting the earnings of SR.

DON'T CHANGE A DAMN THING! Our liberal strong additude of today is not the direction to go. Maybe we need a reminder of values that Superman use to represents. Conservitive Christian farm boy with the power to do whatever he wants but chooses to fight for Truth, Justice and the lost American way. The question to ask is how would this character adapt to a modern world but still follow the same design.

His first priority is to the Earth and making sure its protected from any overwhelming threat. The second priority is threats to all men. Third is to his city of Metropolis then his friends.

What makes this character unique is not some ill fated event that clouds his judgment like Batman, Ghostrider, Wolverine or Daredevil. The distruction of his home world has no bearing on Kal-El's judgement. Its the good folks that raised him with strong altrueistic values and guideance which make him a hero to trust. Captain America is very simular except he chose to undergo the Super-soldier Serium treatment that made him instill his dedication to his cause.

Superman should be the example of a super-hero that no other can live up to. Thats how he is reguarded in the comics by his peers. He should also be the "control" hero of all other hero archtypes to judge from. You might not like Superman or understand his cause but he has a distinced role and purpose.
JYCowboy - 11/16/2009, 4:43 PM


Deleted scene from Superman Returns. CGI is not complete

SHHH - 11/16/2009, 4:54 PM
lol jokes ^^^^^^^^
FrankCastle1 - 11/16/2009, 5:01 PM
reboot it with tom welling as superman and who ever said to reboot batman to go along with a jla movie are they crazy nolan batman could actually fit in a jla movie
flames809 - 11/16/2009, 5:02 PM
reboot it with tom welling as superman and who ever said to reboot batman to go along with a jla movie are they crazy nolan batman could actually fit in a jla movie
flames809 - 11/16/2009, 5:02 PM
ROUTHBOOT!!! ; D

LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 5:11 PM
UNDERHILL @ If you had WELLING as SUPERMAN the movie would BOMB!!!!

GEEZUZ!



And how the [frick] did you get before my comment????!

I commented first??
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 5:13 PM
The thought of Tom Welling as Superman makes me howl with laughter, then cringe at the realization that whoever suggested him is serious, and finally puke up my lunch, followed by my dinner. ALL AT THE SAME TIME!

Routhboot FTW
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/16/2009, 5:20 PM
TYLER @ I'm so will ya there and ROUTHBOOT too!! ; D
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 5:36 PM
Well...screw you guys. I liked Superman Returns.

Cartman: "Screw you guys, i'm goin' home." lol
Fartman - 11/16/2009, 5:51 PM
WELLING COULD DO SUPERMAN, I'D WATCH TO SEE WHAT HE DOES.RETURNS WAS OK BUT NOT WHAT I WANTED TO SEE IN A SUPERMAN FILM. WHERE'S THE SUPERPOWERED BAD GUY THAT PUSHES SUPES TO THE LIMIT? SURE ROUTH LOOKS LIKE REEVES, BUT ISN'T IT BEING TOO NOSTALGIC TO KEEP DOING THE SAME THING? FOLLOW THE SAME BEATS? I SAY DO SOMETHING FRESH, SOMETHING NEW...LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO BATMAN BEFORE BEGINS..IT TURNED INTO A MESS, THEN NOLAN STEPPED IN AND CHANGED THE WAY WE SAW BATMAN MOVIES, IT WAS COOL AGAIN.
GUNSMITH - 11/16/2009, 5:56 PM
@ tyler

lolol...tom welling. he couldn't act his way out of a nutsack. not to mention it would make it a smallville movie more than superman. thats just ridiculous.

@ fartman

superman returns wasn't a bad movie, it just needed no kid and more action. we got to see him save a crashing plane, which was the ONLY real action in the whole movie. the other sorry excuses for excitement was when he stopped the bank robbery. which we didn't get to see him do ANYTHING. and at the end...when he got his ass kicked by a couple of jobbers. wow. but it wasnt a "poorly" made movie, just boring.
CorndogBurglar - 11/16/2009, 5:59 PM
Returns was a good movie in it's own right. However, it wasn't a good Superman movie. If that makes sense...
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/16/2009, 6:07 PM
Man this franchise has been bitch slapped from here to eternity. Mba!
MsKyle08 - 11/16/2009, 6:10 PM
holy SHZIT! Did Lee and Joshw actually agree on something?
THEHAWK - 11/16/2009, 6:11 PM
@Tyler, I see what you mean, it was a good "guy" version of My Super Ex-Girlfriend, lmao, it was good, but it was a chick flick at heart.
WEAPON420 - 11/16/2009, 6:11 PM
Hopefully now that DC Entertainment was established, they know what they need from a Superman movie. Just make it already. There have only been a few Superman movies and so much comic book source material to work with. Learn from Iron Man already.
fanboiii - 11/16/2009, 6:29 PM
HAWK @ : D
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 6:37 PM
@Joshw, Superman can gather dust and the value of the product will still rise. I mean, they could put out total garbage and the brand will still stand a chance for a revival. So when WB is ready, I hope they get it right and I hope to see Routh back.
anathem - 11/16/2009, 6:37 PM
They can do this movie so epic, if it takes WB time to figure this out right, give them that time then. I liked the trilogy, forgot who wrote it, but it starts out with a civil war battle on Krypton (much like Kandor on Smallville only bigger) I read it once on one of these sites, not sure which one though. It might be J.J. Abrams or something, don't know.
Timerider84 - 11/16/2009, 6:54 PM
I have to say I'm with LEEE on this one too. Routh just needed a better way to showcase himself. Welling would ruin superman for me, that's why I haven't been able to watch smallville.
Kebe - 11/16/2009, 7:03 PM
Welling's had 8 (and almost 9) shots to prove he can do Superman.

Guess what? He's failed every one of them.

You might as well put a cardboard cut-out of Superman if you're going to cast Welling. Both have about the same acting ability.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/16/2009, 7:04 PM
couldnt of said it better myself TYLER.
Kebe - 11/16/2009, 7:12 PM
WB needs to make Superman movie like the Bond movies are made. Give a writer/director team 1-3 movies to do any story they want (probably need someone to approve or disprove totally outlandish ideas)with any actors they want, with the rules that at the end of each stint all main characters, Supes, Lois, Lex, Jimmy, etc, have to be alive and in the same condition they were when they were handed off; by same condition I mean that nothing can be done that would tie the hands of the next writing/directing team, like illegitimate children.

Their is a bottomless well of possible story lines from the comics and cartoons, some people even have original story ideas. Doing it like this means that they all have a chance.

With a setup like this the only thing the execs have to worry about every 6 years (however long a trilogy usually takes) is whether or not the next team is worthy of the story they want to tackle; some teams may be good for a Lex round of movies, but not worthy of Doomsday or Darkseid.
HarrisonBergeron - 11/16/2009, 7:19 PM
To be fair he acts what he's given, he's not the writer. However Welling wouldn't work because if he is Superman than smallville would have to be cannon and I don't think the majority of fans think that would be a good idea.
The show plays to the teen demographic and it does it fairly well...but that demographic is only a fraction of the fandom of Superman, and the majority of that fandom does not and never will find smallville to be an adequate representation of Superman or Clark Kent.
You can quote me as many ratings as you want to show how popular Welling is as Clark...but those ratings only represent the under 20 age bracket and the legions of Superman fans that do not fall into that bracket hold only contempt for the show and they far outnumber the fans that do.

In it's own genre, teen- drama, it's a fairly good show, no matter how far it veers off cannon it stays true to providing all the angsty teen drama that is needed to fit its demographic. And it's writing, though subpar and inconsistent at times, has the same quality of plots as other teen dramas like the OC andjust about every show on the CW. That's what it's meant to be, a super hero soap opera, and it does it well.

Should that formula be associated with the movie? No. It's not the Superman that the majority of fans want, so Welling will never be Superman on the big screen. Never. And if my prediction of him on screen is shown to be false I'll eat my hat...but I dout I'll eveer have to do that.
thwhtGuardian - 11/16/2009, 7:30 PM
Superman is in a weird place because they are trying to figure out wtf to do to build up to a Justice League movie. However they also screwed up with Nolan's Batman and don't know how to incorporate him into the League also LOL. All i can say is its a bloody mess.
DegenX - 11/16/2009, 7:41 PM
its simple like dave gibson said. Make the superman movie bright and marvelous...no dark and brooding emo superman. Let the superman film be a great hero for all. Make the animated series into live action and be done with it
BlackAirs87 - 11/16/2009, 7:49 PM
REALLY?? I know 10 out of 10 fans that have been clammering for this. And I'm willing to bet most of CBM agrees. You want to see 10+ years in the making pay off. STOP trying to deny it and face the obvious.

WB needs to come off with the cash and see Smallvile from TV to BIG SCREEN!

http://s496.photobucket.com/albums/rr325/Astral_Projector/?action=view¤t=TomWellingSuperman.jpg
NotCCA - 11/16/2009, 8:31 PM
Hey why didn't my link work??
NotCCA - 11/16/2009, 8:33 PM
Amen Jazzman, get ridda Peters! He's a maroon!
Tobuttica - 11/16/2009, 8:34 PM
F*** cant they just bring bryan back cause this is already sounding like a DISASTER, superman returns has alot of potential...I wasnt a big fan of them doing superman returns being part 3 of the old christopher reeve and discarding does what he had done, sure it was bad but still...Here's were they can go with this pros another kypton in the solar system great more story telling, u want superman darker...KILL OFF THE SON. make him lose by going up against doomsday or braniac. ONE VILLIAN PLEASE. Simple. theres alot of potential here. I kno some ppl will disagree BUT you'll be kicking your ass once the reboot SUX and its not what you like and expect, you'll be looking back that returns sequal would have been a better idea. F*** WARNER BROTHERS LISTEN....AND THINK WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE HERE...MARVEL IS KILLING YOUR RIGHTS...AND SOON THE COMIC MOVIES WILL DIE AND PEOPLE WONT BE INTERESTED CAUSE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT FALL FOR ANY REEBOTS ONCE DAREDEVIL, FANTASTUC FOUR, X-MEN 1st CLASS, AND PROBLY SPIDERMAN(if the last one fails yet agian). BTW gratz on your animated series your killing it there BUT LIVE ACTION Tssk tssk you sux. DONT SAY DARK KNIGHT when theres ONLY ONE character you guys put out.
xXkryptoniteXx - 11/16/2009, 8:35 PM
@LEEE, I don't know how many [frick]ing times you've posted that Routh/Superman/Doomsday pic and said, "NO REBOOT!!" and here we are and your saying just do a sequel/reboot and lose the kid. are you giving in or was it a typo. ;0)
valeriesghost - 11/16/2009, 8:40 PM
Routh for Superman

Welling for Cheaper By The Dozen 3
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/16/2009, 8:43 PM
right on!
superhero9 - 11/16/2009, 8:46 PM
Does Welling even want to be Superman
superhero9 - 11/16/2009, 8:49 PM
How old are these 10 out of 10 fans?

The truth of the matter is that the median age for fans of Superman is 35...how many 35 year olds do you think identify with smallville?
I'm not that old yet so I can't say with any certainty...but I think it's a safe bet to say that it is close to none. If you red my post I'm not knocking smallville, it's good in it's own right(especially this season) but it's not the real Superman. It is its own separate entity, there is smallville and then there is the mainstream Superman. They are very different beasts and cannot be interchanged. It plays well to it's demographic, but fails to connect to the larger audience of Superman fans, and if you want a movie to succeed you can't pander to a niche audience you have to be accessible to the populace.

It's the same with all those teen music sub genres, like screemo and emo and crunkcore, they do very well with the under 20 crowd, but look at the 21+ demographics and it flat lines. This doesn't mean the genres are any less valid, or the artists any less talented, it just means that their themes more readily connect with the younger age demographic. Smallville is the same way, I don't mean to demean by painting it as a teen drama, that's its genre it's a fact, and it does it well. But that genre doesn't resonate with the whole fanbase, and the WB knows this so we'll never see a Smallville/ Superman movie connection. perhaps elements will carry over, but to include welling is to merge the two and I don't see that happening.
thwhtGuardian - 11/16/2009, 8:53 PM
Welling for Superman.
TonyDark - 11/16/2009, 9:03 PM
If you make Tommy boy Superman on the big screen that means all of the Smallvile lore is law.That Martha Kent is into politics? I mean, what the heck? Don't get me wrong I love Smallville . But it has taking Superman in a direction that is not at the level it deserves.IMO.
superhero9 - 11/16/2009, 9:03 PM
KEBE @ Good man!!

Underhill @ Lol!

VAL @ Lol!! I don't care if we get a sequel or ROUTHboot as long as ROUTH is SUPERMAN!!!

[frick] WELLING!!!

WELLING FOR CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN 2 and a half!!! : D
LEEE777 - 11/16/2009, 9:17 PM


found this couldn't resist

SHHH - 11/16/2009, 9:21 PM


Struttin' down the fake runway!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 11/16/2009, 9:24 PM
yeah so, I just watch SuperMan Returns because I forgot how much i enjoyed that movie! I still don't see why people bash the movie... sure there is not a ton of action in it, but its a real feel good movie when it comes down to it. It's an epic story and well done! I wish they would continue from where they left off from there and bring back all the same characters/actors and of course now bring the action for the next one.
WarNoodle - 11/16/2009, 9:34 PM
Did anyone else get tearing when he stood at the door of the downed plane, And the whole ball park cheered that Superman was back? And Jonh Williams Score rang out. For me that was worth the price of admission.
superhero9 - 11/16/2009, 9:39 PM





SHHH - 11/16/2009, 9:49 PM
apparently "A Weird Place" is another name for a place we like to call "Development Hell". you go a mile passed the Negative Zone and make a right at the Microverse. Development Hell is on the left...you can't miss it.
CorndogBurglar - 11/16/2009, 9:52 PM
@ SHHH
You just took me back to my childhood. Cool Video
superhero9 - 11/16/2009, 9:58 PM
Childhood memory lane

SHHH - 11/16/2009, 10:06 PM
DarkSide should be Villain or Brainica, shit even metallo. Must have a Cross over, Bruce Wayne would be nice. If lex is in it, he must be in the shadow or around the same age as Superman and more on the edges of how he is portrayed in Superman Vs DoomsDay. Doomsday would be to soon, would much rath see Darkside.
CrashTest - 11/16/2009, 10:22 PM
I wanna see supes kick somebody's ass!
SHHH - 11/16/2009, 10:25 PM
I just want to see a decent story
thwhtGuardian - 11/16/2009, 10:35 PM
So...No news at all, then?
slimybug - 11/16/2009, 11:09 PM
Casting Welling as Superman without adopting Smallville as cannon is just as doable as keeping Routh and doing a reboot.

To be clear, I want Welling and Durance on the big screen, nothing else from Smallville can be allowed anywhere near the silver screen.

HarrisonBergeron - 11/17/2009, 12:21 AM
REBOOOOOOOOOT...No Routh No Welling!!!!

:D
teabag - 11/17/2009, 1:22 AM
Tom Welling is to Superman for 2009 as Christopher Reeve was for 1978, Welling all the way, no question.
PRMR77 - 11/17/2009, 1:42 AM
Bloody WB...its they're fault for the delay, there's lots of directors who want to do it but they keep BUTTING IN, i wish MARVEL would step in and sigh DC's leading characters to the Marvel universe, THEN we'd get a Superman movie!
rosco71 - 11/17/2009, 1:44 AM
PRMR77@ If thats true why isnt he SUPERMAN??? :P

No fat boy Welling and No Carboard Routh :P


teabag - 11/17/2009, 1:55 AM
wtf is wrong with wb?

grif - 11/17/2009, 2:20 AM
Superman needs to look old enough to be some kind of authority figure. Superman needs to have the charisma to be some kind of authority figure. Superman needs to have the kind of emotional depth that allows him to be both the world's most confident and powerful superhero, as well as the simple Kansas farm boy with midwestern values.

The late Christopher Reeve had all of those qualities nailed down. It's what made him perfectly believable as the man of steel.

Brandon Routh does bear a passing resemblance to Reeve and sometimes sounds like him, but he looks about 5-7 years too young and 30 lbs too light. Superman has always been depicted as being in his early 30s. Routh looked like early 20s. He struck me as being more like Superman's kid brother trying to fill those shoes. His performance had all the depth of a cardboard cut out, lacking all the aforementioned qualities that Superman needs.

Routh simply is not Superman and they need to get away from him to break ties from the disaster that was Superman Returns. Reboot it and ditch Routh. Find an actor who looks old enough to shave, for starters, and work from there.
TheDemonHunter - 11/17/2009, 2:48 AM
As much as I enjoyed Returns I would rather see a reboot then a sequel.. what the hell are warners waiting for? the man might wanna do it..talk to him for christs sake!! Are warners THAT scared of screwing up again? Whats taking them so long???
catman - 11/17/2009, 3:01 AM
Teabag, the series is not over yet be patient it will happen. Everyone keeps on saying about a reboot or starting from scratch. Well Smallville is already there for the back story we don't need to go over it again, just tell a great new story. As for no to Tom Welling as Superman, the series is now in it's 9th season the show must have got something right for the fans to keep coming back and as it's about the early years of Superman clearly Tom Welling is doing the job.
PRMR77 - 11/17/2009, 4:46 AM
PRMR77@ I dont want a 2hr soap on the big screen...its not a testiment to the talent or writing that Smallville is in its 9th season....im sure most people agree some seasons have been god aweful...its more the fact its the ONLY superman (loosly) inspired show on tv, of course alot of people are gonna watch it but alot more are gonna watch a movie and Welling just doesnt cut it as a leading man. imo a good leading man will shine through sh*t...something Welling and Routh are unable to do....and on a more personal note i dont have faith in a guy that refuses to wear a superman suite in a Superman movie, He should just make Fog 2 or Cheaper by the Bakers Dozen :P lol

Oh and how many more early years are gonna have in that show before Welling looks 40!?! i dont hate the idea of Snoreville tho and at first when it WAS about a young Clark it was good but now there dragging it on im unimpressed with the acting and writing ability:)
teabag - 11/17/2009, 5:26 AM
Small screen to big screen, as a Star trek fan I would tend to disagree. If the story is good enough and they get a director who is passionate about the the character, like Sam Raimi and Spiderman (ok not number 3 he really c**ked that one up) then I think it can work.
PRMR77 - 11/17/2009, 6:02 AM
PRMR77@ whats that got to do with Star Trek??? ....i fail to see the comparison when it comes to Welling not being a good enough actor for Superman!!

:D
teabag - 11/17/2009, 6:06 AM
The fact that Star Trek have managed to turn a TV program in to some pretty decent films, not all I grant you but some. So it can happen. All I'm saying is give Welling a chance he may surprise a few people. As iconic as Christopher Reeve is and there will be no one better, lets not forget Superman 4 the quest for peace not the best work that was done !!!!
PRMR77 - 11/17/2009, 7:19 AM
The fact that Star Trek have managed to turn a TV program in to some pretty decent films, not all I grant you but some. So it can happen. All I'm saying is give Welling a chance he may surprise a few people. As iconic as Christopher Reeve is and there will be no one better, lets not forget Superman 4 the quest for peace not the best work that was done !!!!
PRMR77 - 11/17/2009, 7:26 AM
Thedemon@ you are right. Routh looked about 5 year too old. But 3 years ago. We wont have another movie until 2013 i suppose. On that date welling will be probably more fat(lol),while brandon will look perfect. Stop with the entire nostalgic/reeves thing. Routh can ONLY go to the better,and the 30 lbs, you know,are not a serious/real problem. No need to change an actor for is similarity with chris reeve. people (not fans,simple people all over the world) identify THAT kind of look with superman,and doesn't mind if they cast a photocopy of reeve or not. I'm with lee
MisterFixit - 11/17/2009, 7:30 AM
The fact that Star Trek have managed to turn a TV program in to some pretty decent films, not all I grant you but some. So it can happen. All I'm saying is give Welling a chance he may surprise a few people. As iconic as Christopher Reeve is and there will be no one better, lets not forget Superman 4 the quest for peace not the best work that was done !!!!
PRMR77 - 11/17/2009, 7:32 AM
I'm down for a McTeigue Routhboot! Ninja Assassin looks "decent" and V for Vendetta is one of my favorite FILMS not just CBMs. Sounds great to me ;)

Chris Pine AND Hemsworth would have been both great Supermen as well but Routh had me at "hello" LOL :P
Shaman - 11/17/2009, 7:44 AM
Oh dear got a little carried away with the refresh button there !!!!!!!!!!!
PRMR77 - 11/17/2009, 7:45 AM
PRMR77- That's alright buddy, just click on the trash can for the extra posts ;)
Shaman - 11/17/2009, 7:47 AM
Being one of the few apostates on the matter, let me say that Christopher Reeve absolutely sucked ASS in Superman, which in itself absolutely sucked ASS, so it would be hard to make a Superman movie that absolutely sucked ASS even harder.

Then Came Superman Returns...

"Where you going?" "Nowhere in particular." "Wish I were you." "Well, hang in there."

Give us a REAL watchable Superman movie with a believable Superman AND Clark Kent. Every Superman movie made was incredibly lame and a supreme disappointment. We are long overdue for the Superman movie we've waited for since his inception. We need a good Darkseid epic supervillain, a believable Superman and at least a remotely attractive Lois Lane (get RID of the people who cast the leading women for SR and TDK).

I'll be an old, old man before they ever make a watchable Superman movie...
bropous - 11/17/2009, 7:50 AM
I'm with teabag. No Welling, no Routh.

Welling looks the part (ish), but he lacks charisma, an inspirational personality, or the acting chops to make us really believe in him in the same way Reeve did.

Routh lacks all that and more. He's too effeminate and doesn't remotely evoke the character. Dean Cain evoked Superman more than Routh did. Not a bad impression of Reeve impersonating Clark Kent, but even then, he was completely devoid of Reeve's charm and any original touch of his own, so please don't damn us to mediocrity by championing that chump.

They need to find someone new to fill those red boots, and that can't be easy.

They also need to re-tool the whole mythos(yes in exactly the way you're thinking I mean it).

Keep the suit, keep Krypton, keep most of the things that make him what he is, but first and foremost Clark Kent has to be completely revamped.

He can't work IN the Daily Planet (he can work FOR them, but he must never, ever be seen there in person). He can't "woo" Lois Lane, he can't rescue cats from trees. He's Superman. Clark Kent should, at best, be an undercover identity to be used in the rare instances when he needs to be subtle, public or incognito.

If he's a paragon of Truth, Justice and all that, and a hero for good, then he can't just ignore all the cries for help, the disasters, the crimes going on in the world and goofing around as Clark Kent.

It's simple. If he spends any extended time as Clark Kent, he's letting people die DELIBERATELY.

Alan Moore and others have raised this before. As he is, Superman cannot be anything other than selfishly amoral at best. He needs to be re-tooled in both the comics and movie worlds.

I know a lot of you will probably cry "blasphemy", but just think about it logically for one moment and you'll know I'm right.

The ONLY justification for keeping him the way he is, is to say "it's only a comic!". That's fine, but as long as we cling on to that childish reasoning then Superman will never reattain the heights he did in his heyday.

He needs modernising. Harsh, but true.

KeithM - 11/17/2009, 7:56 AM
Routhboot:)
RorMachine - 11/17/2009, 8:13 AM
The only way to go is to make the already in development Green Lantern, Wonder Woman and the Flash, then bring together the three superheroes, a new actor as the Nolan Batman and a new actor as Superman and make a Justice League movie from this. Then make a spin-off Superman movie from this, quickly show his origin story in the first 10 minutes of the movie and then have him fight a [frick]ing powerful villain that will enable them to have titanic god-like fights never before seen in a superhero movie while also looking at the personality of Superman as a basically god among men who is trying to balance a normal life with his life as the most powerful superhero ever
The villains should be:
Superman 1: Zod
Superman 2: Brainiac
Superman 3: Bizarro and Lex Luthor
Superman 4: Eradicator or Hank Henshaw (to set up for Superman's death)
Superman 5: Doomsday
Superman 6: Reign of the Supermen storyline with Hank Henshaw eventually revealed to be the villain and then in the last half hour Superman is resurrected to defeat Hank Henshaw

There is an idea for the Superman franchise, now get off your ass Warner Brothers and make it!
dancingmonkey08 - 11/17/2009, 8:14 AM
I think Tom Welling is so great! If you knew him, you'd know he is definately pulling off the clean-spirited Superman. Not that Tom isn't sweet. I'd like to see him in less innocent or more complex roles, so that he doesn't get type casted. I think all of this male jealousy and tiger-fighting is cute, too!
MarchesaTheresa - 11/17/2009, 8:22 AM
Weird Place my ass, I believe it’s all a front. I bet WB is keeping all of this on the down low. 2 things I recall, first with all the court orders that were occurring regarding SM (Jerry Siegel Estate & WB), if I recall WB would lose the rights to SM if a movie isn't off the guard or completed by some date in 2011. Second, there was a rumor on a few articles regarding GL that SM will have a possible cameo. So if those 2 things are correct we should get some information pretty soon. In my opinion I prefer TW over BR for any future SM projects. Now here’s what I think, I believe WB is testing the waters. Just like reports about a short list of directors they also have one for SM and on top of that list is TW. I bet their offer and decision is solely based on how Smallville season 9 goes. As the writers of the show continue to pair the season with the SM mythos, WB is seeing how TW is filling the shoes. If they feel at the end that he can’t translate to the big screen then they’ll look at someone else. I bet we get more leaks on information around February next year. By then GL is beginning shoot, Smallville season is passed the 2 hour episode and with about 8 or 9 episodes left. I won’t be surprised that something along the lines like this isn’t far fetch. Something like this can be viewed as in a Weird Place by many (to me it’s like laying down low). Now for the people, who hate Smallville, dislike TW and would prefer Routh, what can I tell you but to me he’s the long shot of having another chance. If Routh wanted another shot as reports mentioned then he can thank Singer for that but there’s no way The Suits in WB will have anyone in SM Returns get near the next one.

Regarding talks about how Batman’s Nolan can’t be comingled with GL, SM or any other future projects, that’s bullshit. Talk about real world version that’s bullshit lol, money talks and bullshit walks. All of these movies are LIVE ACTION, can’t get any realer then that. Yea GL and SM will need CGI compare to Batman or Green Arrow but that’s because some heroes have super human strength and others don’t so when combine that’s what makes it beautiful. Bring on Nolan’s version into a future and possible JLA flick. Watch more weight far on either Nolan or WB pending how Nolan’s next project Inception makes. If it flops the ball is on WB’s court, if it packs a punch Nolan has the edge.
blueorangeny - 11/17/2009, 9:02 AM
REBOOT ALL THE WAY!!!

COME ON WB/DC, SORT IT OUT! ITS CLEAR EVERYONE WANTS A SUPES FILM!
BigNick - 11/17/2009, 10:08 AM
If you make Welling Superman then there is no way to differentiate smallville from Superman cannon. It wouldn't matter how hard you tried, or how many times you said they weren't related people are going to come to that conclusion. And why shouldn't they? If you're using the same actor than what else are you supposed to think other than that the movie is a continuation of the series? For all it's greatness the show isn't Superman, and never will be. It exists in it's own separate continuity, and it is not one that is interchangeable with the main stream continuity.
It's like trying to assert that James Bond Jr. belongs in the same realm as James bond, it doesn't work. Does that mean that James Bond Jr. wasn't entertaining? No. It just means it's different and separate than the James Bond movies.
thwhtGuardian - 11/17/2009, 10:21 AM
Re-boot! Give Clark some depth and have Superman kick a$$. Brainiac would be the shiz and maybe a cross over character. I like Routh, but wouldn't be sad if someone new came around either.
superjakeman - 11/17/2009, 10:30 AM
thwhtG@ Exactly...thats why i dont get the earlyer Star Trek referance...that show had its own mythology and background where Snoreville is not apart of any true continuity but its own :)

Snoreville is to Superman what Twilight is to Bram Stokers Dracula :P
teabag - 11/17/2009, 11:29 AM
I say give JJ Abrams the Superman Franchise and give McTeigue the Batman franchise. That will give us our JLA!!!
Shaman - 11/17/2009, 11:55 AM
Hell yeah :)
teabag - 11/17/2009, 11:56 AM
That's a decent analogy tea. I personally don't like twilight, but I don't have a problem with it unless some one tries to assert that it's take on vampire mythology is the "real" vampire mythology. Dracula is the standard, and as long as twilight does its own thing and doesn't try to assert itself as vampire cannon I'm fine with it. It's its own thing, and it doesn't try to be anything else, I don't understand why some hardcore smallville fans don't get that.
thwhtGuardian - 11/17/2009, 1:34 PM
NO REBOOT!!
Torian Brown - 11/17/2009, 1:38 PM
ROUTHBOOT... all the way ... SR was good .. now we need some action that is all ROUTHBOOT... I love it Josh and Lee agree ... " Com'on people smile on your brother lets get together and love one another right now" ( simpson halloween special ) ... ;-)
thegreek - 11/17/2009, 2:20 PM
thwhtGuardian@ Smallville is a an alternate reality, simplest explanation, do people complain that they are confused about Superman not being a Russian with a sickle and hammer on his chest?

Edit: my above argument seems kind of lame. The fact still remains, Smallville is filmed with a very distinct style, and Clark Kent is written very distinctly. Once you have a good writer writing the character and higher budget cinematography, with totally different sets the movie and the show would look so different that anyone complaining about Smallville continuity would just be grasping at straws, most likely because they are either a Routh fan or a Smallville fan and they didn't get their way.

PRMR77@ No way in hell can Smallville's continuity be adopted by the next movie, the watered down Justice League, all the Lana arcs, these things would kill any movie.

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I can accept that people don't want Welling as Superman because they dislike his acting, or that the existence of Smallville would confuse things, BUT you guys have to admit that ON SCREEN Welling has the most Supermanly physique and that the next Superman actor needs to be built similarly.
HarrisonBergeron - 11/17/2009, 2:54 PM
Its true that there's some things you can't do, like make it not suck. Work on that one first, Jimmy.
antz1104 - 11/17/2009, 4:13 PM
Yeah, I tend to think of it an as an alternate reality too, but I'm a comic book fan, I'm used to heroes living in alternate realities and I know that what happens there has no bearing what so ever. However the populace doesn't think like that. If it's the same guy then it's the same thing.
However I agree with getting a guy built like welling, I like that he's big but not rippling. I always see superman as this big cornfed kind of guy, not some super jacked guy as they often depict him in the comics.
Superman isn't batman after all, he doesn't need to hit the gym to be in fighting shape he just needs to take a walk in the sun.
thwhtGuardian - 11/17/2009, 4:26 PM
So, is "weird place" code for Superman will be off-planet in the next movie? Maybe with a Lobo cameo?
Dr. Donald Draper - 11/17/2009, 5:38 PM
I Think we need to move on like Superman Returns never happened and make another movie that takes place in the not Too distant future WITH Brandon Routh as Superman and have a real Villian instead of cheap Ass Lex Luthor.
We need to get villians like Brainiac, Doomsday, or Metallo to the big screen.
JRay420 - 11/17/2009, 7:22 PM
The twilight thing was more of a jest, but still you have to agree that smallville is it's own entity. Making a Smallville movie, which is what it would be perceived as if Welling was Superman, would be like making Red Son into a live action movie. Would it be cool? Sure. But would it add confusion to the noncomicbook fan base? Yes, it would add unneeded confusion. The populace doesn't understand all the different realities, hell the DC continuity confuses the heck out me sometimes and I've been reading comics going on nearly 20 years now.

Smallville is more than a simple modernization, it is a reflection of Superman in a teen drama. Sure it shares a common mythos, but it is its own separate entity. For better or for worse that's what it is, and it does fairly well in that respect. But that said I think it would fail if it was forced to be more than that. Smallville is at it's best when it focuses on the interpersonal relationships, for my money it has the best lois lane ever to be on screen, she made me like her after years of thinking she was useless and annoying. But when smallville tries to focus more on action elements I find lacking. It doesn't feel natural, it feels strained and forced and it makes the cast look wooden and lose their charm. That's why I think the older seasons were better they were more about self discovery, and at the end clark would have a run in with a meteor freak, or have to hide from krytonite. The emotions were there and the characters felt involved. That's all lost when it tries to be more epic, like last season, it feels gimmicky like a movie of the week...and that's not an impression I think anyone wants associated with a movie.

It works and connects with it's demographic, but outside of that bubble it is panned and looked down upon. Do you want a vast majority of the populace panning a movie before it even comes out? I don't think so. And I think the WB knows that too. It isn't a show watched by adults, and adult Superman fans far out number the fans of Smallville, they just do.
thwhtGuardian - 11/17/2009, 8:49 PM
SHHH - 11/18/2009, 12:15 AM
MisterUnderhill@ lmao whats weak about it? true it was a joke but then again Twilight is a pussy vampire movie whilst Smallville is a pussy Superman show...so its all good lol :P

But thanks for the Welling clip lol heres one for you...




See he sparkles too :D
teabag - 11/18/2009, 4:24 AM
F%&CK U LEEE like no one has ever told you to F##ck yourself. I bet on my life youre gay. Brandon Routh crap again??? This article is not even about that. Ill bash u on every piece i can find your ugly ass in. F%%ck Routh and F$$ck LEEE. FAGGOTS.
eljayson - 11/18/2009, 11:17 AM
eljay@ for someone who supposedly hats faggots you do like to talk about [frick]ing LEEE in the ass !!
teabag - 11/18/2009, 11:25 AM
eljayson, I'd usually have a few choice words for you about what it usually means when you have violent outbursts of gay bashing, but I'm not in the mood and I doubt you would be able to understand it anyway.
thwhtGuardian - 11/18/2009, 12:24 PM
Wow, who sh*t in his cereal? lmfao
antz1104 - 11/18/2009, 1:30 PM
REBOOT.
OSCURO - 11/18/2009, 1:48 PM
From reading these and forums full of comments like this it shows what Bryan did to the fanbase and the franchise. Bryan ensured that the fan base would be divided and that there would be no way to do away (without "doing away" wink wink) the problems of the last film. We are stuck with a zany Luthor AGAIN, a smallville lana lang Lois *shivers*, a family that would have to be broken up for Lois and Superman to be together, the old-tired clark is just a disguise of the silver age rather than CLARK as the real person and add some true drama from superman having to deal with being two ppl, AND of course Superman Jr
Sektos - 11/19/2009, 1:43 AM
y not jus make a sequal?..i mean routhe did a great job as superman...the problem was there was no fighting..but he didnt write the script...get a betta writer on the new movie and keep routhe...he deserves 2 portray the man of steel in a betta movie!
~X
XmutantX - 11/19/2009, 11:19 AM
I usually never bash but Sektos is right. This movie, his director and actors ruined my love for th supes franchise. The faggot thing is just a rant at having LEE post a pic of brandon routh in every single supes article. I really dont mind LEE since he contributes a lot to the site. However let him got pet JASON FREAKIN KENT in his tiny teen balls.
They gave superman a KID?? Really?? For god sake its a mockery. Almos a 100 years and HE (singer) has the balls to change it all?? F..that. How can you suppor such a mess,

And BTW sorry 4 the outburst its just to much for me to see a pic of Routh everyday.
eljayson - 11/19/2009, 2:12 PM
I hear ya and agree...i am jus getting kinda sick of every new movie being a remake/reboot...they used 2 neva do this..now almost every movie is being remade...which says 2 things...1 hollywood is running out of original ideas...and 2 they r handing our superheros over 2 unqualified writers and directors...if they got sum1 else 2 portray supes i'd be fine wit it...jus hav him kick sum friggin ass!!!
XmutantX - 11/19/2009, 2:53 PM
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They need to do something, I need to add more to my sleeve!
Kebe - 11/19/2009, 6:12 PM
damn kebe
that is sum sick ink work...whered u get em done?..they look flawless...what else is on ur sleeve? post more pics!
~X
XmutantX - 11/20/2009, 2:00 AM
Welling kind of let me down with Pandora, he used to be ripped, and now he just looks like an average fit 30-something. It's nothing that he couldn't come back from, but it definitely hurts my arugment for why he should be supes.
HarrisonBergeron - 11/21/2009, 12:36 PM
New Superman movie in year 2025.
The villain surprise "LEX LUTHOR".
OSCURO - 11/21/2009, 2:26 PM
Please no more Luthor it's about time we see a different villian in a superman film.....
Darkseid all the way Mother box.......
georgia49th - 11/24/2009, 9:31 AM
Agree whit you:
@ dancingmonkey08.
@ georgia49th.
OSCURO - 11/28/2009, 12:54 PM

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