Joss Whedon Reveals Why Certain Scenes Were Cut From MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS

Joss Whedon Reveals Why Certain Scenes Were Cut From MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS

Following on from his comments about The Avengers sequel and the planned S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series, Joss Whedon reveals why the alternate opening was cut and shares his thoughts on removing the "Man Out Of Time" sequence with Captain America.

By JoshWilding - Aug 31, 2012 03:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: Vulture

Earlier this week, Marvel released a sneak peek at a gloomy alternative opening for Marvel's The Avengers, leading many fans to question why it didn't make the final cut. Even more confusing was why exactly the scene in which Steve Rogers discovers that the Howling Commandos are all dead and Peggy Carter is still alive was removed, especially as it showed exactly how out of place he is in the present day. Well, in a recent interview with Vulture, writer and director Joss Whedon shed some light on his decision to take these seemingly pivotal scenes out of the critically acclaimed superhero ensemble. To read what the director had to say about The Avengers sequel, his Marvel Studios deal, and the recently announced S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series, click HERE.

"One: The movie was three hours long. Two: Audiences didn't respond to it as well in the movie as I think they would as a DVD extra. Most of them didn't know who this character was or what the context was, and they were like, Uhhh, I don't know why I'm supposed to be personally involved in this character I don't know. The rollout to the Avengers getting to Loki was so gradual that people were getting restless. I thought Cobie nailed it, and the reason I thought it was necessary is because I was trying to make a war movie and I wanted to give context that something bad had happened in the past. In a war movie, you don't know who's going to live or die, but you do know that this war happened and that [the characters] are going to be in a dire circumstance, and I wanted to create that atmosphere."

"I was able to get what I needed without doing that. It was tough. I hated cutting it. I hated cutting the Captain America stuff with the waitress. At least I was able to call Ashley Johnson [who plays the waitress] and tell her that all her stuff was still in Much Ado About Nothing, since she had been cut out of Dollhouse, she had been cut out of The Avengers: "I swear you're still in the Shakespeare movie!" You know, those bits had seemed very personal to me, and part of doing Much Ado was that I could go back to The Avengers and say, "Oh, it's not about me. Even though its my film, it's about the Avengers. I am less important than the needs of the film."







Marvel Studios presents in association with Paramount Pictures Marvel’s The Avengers--the super hero team up of a lifetime, featuring iconic Marvel super heroes Iron Man, the Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye and Black Widow. When an unexpected enemy emerges that threatens global safety and security, Nick Fury, Director of the international peacekeeping agency known as S.H.I.E.L.D., finds himself in need of a team to pull the world back from the brink of disaster. Spanning the globe, a daring recruitment effort begins.

STARRING:

Chris Evans as Steve Rogers/Captain America
Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark/Iron Man
Chris Hemsworth as Thor
Jeremy Renner as Clint Barton/Hawkeye
Scarlett Johansson as Natasha Ramanoff/Black Widow
Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner/Hulk
Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury
Clark Gregg as Agent Coulson
Cobie Smulders as Maria Hill
Tom Hiddleston as Loki

RELEASE DATE: September 17th, 2012 (UK) September 25th, 2012 (US)


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Kayo
Kayo - 8/31/2012, 4:02 AM
i thought the prologue in the theatrical cut was great..............Whedon made a great CBM
Smacker
Smacker - 8/31/2012, 4:03 AM
Since when is a three hour epic a bad thing? I wish he kept the scenes in instead of worrying about how the "general audience" would feel about them.
Grimfoe
Grimfoe - 8/31/2012, 4:04 AM
I just hope they do an "extended cut" of the film on the dvd. I'd like to see all these scenes in their original context, not in 5 min snipets after I watch the film.

Still, the BEST CBM to date, though. Great film.
Valandil
Valandil - 8/31/2012, 4:16 AM
The movie is great as it is. But some of the scenes about Cap should have been on it. Maybe not the entire thing, but a little bit just to show his pain and the adaptation.
Now is a must on the Cap sequel.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 8/31/2012, 4:18 AM
IT RAN WELL I THOUGHT, WE;LL SEE IN THE BLUERAY...
TheGambitFreak
TheGambitFreak - 8/31/2012, 4:33 AM
DIRECTOR'S CUT, DIRECTOR'S CUT, DIRECTOR'S CUT!
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 8/31/2012, 4:44 AM
so he had to cut them because general audiences are stupid and just want to see explosions?
-_-
hellfire
hellfire - 8/31/2012, 4:57 AM
It might have something to do with the thought that anything he wanted to do with cap to progress the character will be fully covered in Captain Bland: The Winter's Snoresfest
megabatfan
megabatfan - 8/31/2012, 5:07 AM
@Maxi...
Calvin (Calvin & Hobbes) grew up to be Captain America.... That's just awesome.
95
95 - 8/31/2012, 5:17 AM
I remember walking out of the theater saying: "this film needs a director's cut." The Agent Hill bookends and Man Out Of Time stuff were beautifully emotional. But his reason here is totally understandable.
GuardianAngel
GuardianAngel - 8/31/2012, 5:23 AM
Not the cut we deserve, but the cut we needed.
KungFuKoala
KungFuKoala - 8/31/2012, 5:24 AM
@hellfire

glad someone else share's my same concerns about Cap 2.

Really, now we've had an Avengers movie, is there really any need (other than financial) to make more solo movies? Thor I get as there's so much to explore, but Captain America? He's a pretty boring character when on his own so I hope the first part of the movie shows him in full mission flow alongside SHIELD.
deanwilkins
deanwilkins - 8/31/2012, 5:30 AM
Definitely the best CBM to date. Cap is a close second for me. I loved the film.
Destroyer7
Destroyer7 - 8/31/2012, 5:34 AM
TDKR can make the $1B mark but no beat the AVENGERS
phoenixphil
phoenixphil - 8/31/2012, 5:35 AM
While I would have loved the full three hour 'war epic version' I think Joss made the right decision. I think the cuts helped the pace of the movie and made it more instantly digestible for the general public and critics.

It's a shame that the Cap stuff wasnt included as I do feel that his humanity was slightly underserved.

Although if I've learnt anything over the years it's that a film that makes that much money and that has that much unused footage will almost certainly have an extended version released one day.
coolguy
coolguy - 8/31/2012, 5:47 AM
Idk I loved the movie but I was definitely disappointed in certain parts. I wanted to see cap adjusting to his modern world and i was really bothered by banner on that motorcycle. Also I felt there should have been more of a link to the other avengers before coulson was killed. And was anybody else kinda creeped out by furys lie about the cap cards.
hellfire
hellfire - 8/31/2012, 5:55 AM
I know a lot of people enjoyed Cap but the film didn't work for me the only thing I thought were good were Steve before the change, red skull and Hugo's performance the rest just left me with an empty feeling. I really hope they improve Cap2.

I'm looking forward to IM3 I just hope the studio don't f*ck about with it the way they did on IM2.

I'd do have to say though I'm really looking forward to a new Hulk film with Ruffalo so I can put it side by side with Incredible and see who really gives a better performance. Don't get me wrong I thought Ruffalo was excellent as a version of Banner yet he wasn't carrying the film as Norton was.
hellfire
hellfire - 8/31/2012, 5:58 AM
Loving the last pic Tea, thats the way life should be.
FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 8/31/2012, 5:59 AM
i think that the only worth scene was the one with cap in his house and the one with the waitress (just to explain why we see her all the time in the movie, and obviously because of stan)
The other scenes are pretty annoying and not in line in the movie, i think it's better like that because the additional scenes would've broken the rhythm of the movie.
And the alternative opening (and ending) wasn't "epic" like the one we saw, i think that joss whedon crafted the movie well, and i said it with a critical eye not a fanboy eye.
kingkrikkit
kingkrikkit - 8/31/2012, 6:16 AM
One thing you have to realize is the Directors Cut of a film is the cut the director would have preferred, but had to cut. I guarantee that Joss had final of the Avengers, and HE chose not to put in those scenes, for the reasons he revealed here. He COULD put them in the Blu-Ray release, in context, as an ALternate Extended version, but the film we saw in theatres was his cut, it was the Directors Cut. A lot big name, in-deman Directors get final cut becuase the studios trust thier talent for releasing a quality film in thier vision.
Gigacrusher45
Gigacrusher45 - 8/31/2012, 6:16 AM
Who the F are these people who don't know who Captain America is.
Nilphoenix
Nilphoenix - 8/31/2012, 7:01 AM
I could deal with the Cap scene being a DVD extra. I think he made a phenomenal movie with great pacing for both us fanboys, and our friends/wives/girlfriends/partners who needed to lean over and ask, "Who was that purple guy," then endure our 10 minute long explanations.
I have loved everything that Whedon does more than the last thing he's done, which is saying a lot since the Avengers came after Firefly!!! Excelsior, Mr. Whedon!
willyburz
willyburz - 8/31/2012, 7:52 AM
I like alot of the deleted stuff, but understand the length and context of what the film was doing, didnt really vibe with keeping it in. In my opinion the movie is as good as it gets, which is just the greatest cbm of all time. Its not just the fact that he took all the characters and made it work...Joss made it work whether you saw any of the previous movies or not! Thats the perfection of it all...Amazing, just amazing. What he did wasnt just perfect, it made every single one of my family members, and friends go and see all the other previous movies if they hadnt seen them already. Think about that for a minute, and let it sink in. The Marvel movie universe couldnt be in better hands, and I hope and pray Joss finishes this trilogy.
IgnurRant
IgnurRant - 8/31/2012, 7:53 AM
It wasnt a war movie. That was my biggest problem.
johnblake
johnblake - 8/31/2012, 7:57 AM
@coolguy- yea i really wanted to see captain amreica adjust to the new world. it was all i really cared about. i think avengers shouldve Really been more of A First avenger sequel.
TheHitchhikingGhost
TheHitchhikingGhost - 8/31/2012, 8:17 AM
There will be no director's cut because Whedon has stated the theatrical IS the director's cut. We can only hope for an "extended cut", which I can really see happening given the enormous popularity and financial viability of Avengers both theatrically and soon to be home media.
lokibane2012
lokibane2012 - 8/31/2012, 8:38 AM
@Smacker it is BECAUSE he made sure to accommodate a bit for general audiences not as familiar to MCU as us, that the avengers made one-and-a-half billion dollars.

Be grateful. In the age of shitty films like Transformers & Alice in Wonderland making a billion dollars, Avengers set a great example.
hellfire
hellfire - 8/31/2012, 8:51 AM
My god that so strange I was cravin pizza.
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