THE AVENGERS Didn't Have Enough "Machismo" For THE EXPENDABLES' Dolph Lundgren

THE AVENGERS Didn't Have Enough "Machismo" For THE EXPENDABLES' Dolph Lundgren

While the actor enjoyed Marvel's The Avengers, he did think that there was a key ingredient missing from both that and other similar special effects laden movies. Real fights, real explosions and read machismo! Do you agree? Hit the jump to read his comments in full!

By JoshWilding - Mar 07, 2013 02:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: Hero Complex

Talking to Hero Complex, Dolph Lundgren (who made a name for himself as 'Ivan Drago' in 1985's Rocky IV) has shared his thoughts on the divide between old school action fare and special effect laden blockbusters. The actor is now best known for taking on roles in the former genre with the likes of The Expendables, The Expendables 2 and Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning.


"There will always be an exploration of new technology in things like "The Avengers" — that was a great movie, by the way — but I think certainly for part of the audience, if you fire a thousand bullets and there’s not a drop of blood, there’s something wrong with that. Part of the audience wants to see real explosions and real fights and that kind of real machismo."


Do you agree? Lundgren clearly isn't trying to start anything here - he even says how much he enjoyed The Avengers! - but do you think the actor has a point? After all, the problem with these PG-13 movies is that most of them have a real lack of actual danger due to the fact that they aren't allowed to show anything too gory. Did Marvel's superhero ensemble suffer because we didn't see the streets lined with bodies? Did it need more machismo? Sound off with your thoughts below!


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RABB1T
RABB1T - 3/7/2013, 2:07 PM
I see what he's saying, but The Avengers doesn't need to play like a traditional action film. We need the unbelievability in these things. The Avengers needs heavy special effects -- having everything be practical would eliminate the fantasy.
RABB1T
RABB1T - 3/7/2013, 2:09 PM
I completely missed the gore Hahaha! The Avengers isn't meant to be gory- you can have blood, as it did, but we aren't looking for "Punisher Warzone" Face exploding gore! Hahahaha.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 3/7/2013, 2:17 PM
I wouldn't mind a few more practical effects in big budget movies these days.
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 3/7/2013, 2:20 PM
Having said that, you don't have to show blood for a film to be violent. Take this for example. This was brutally violent scene, but cut away right at the moment of impact, and left it up to the viewer to imagine what happened. I thought the Avengers was fine sans the blood, although like I said a few more practical effects wouldn't be so bad in the next one.

jessepostal
jessepostal - 3/7/2013, 2:20 PM
Dolph is fn awesome
LFANCH
LFANCH - 3/7/2013, 2:20 PM
@PantherX the only characters that didn't get shot in that battle were hawkeye and widow.

Anyways, I don't really see why blood makes fights more realistic. Most of the time when you try to amp up the gore factor it just makes things look less realistic.
pro346
pro346 - 3/7/2013, 2:20 PM
Yeah I agree with him ...not a big fan of CGI explosions etc and that's why I like the dark knight trilogy less CGI more practical.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/7/2013, 2:20 PM
Have to agree partially - the movie could have used a bit more grit. Not necessarily blood n guts and stuff, but when the villains go down easier than Gusto after a case of whiskey, it lessens the drama. There never seemed to be any real threat to the city..they just ran around missing with their lasers, and even when they hit they did no damage ("ready for another bout..even though your guts should be all over my cape right now!")

That being said, the Expendables movies [frick]ing suck anyway!:)
Bocephus247
Bocephus247 - 3/7/2013, 2:21 PM
Finally! I've been wondering what Dolph thought of the Avengers for MONTHS!!!
TheGambitFreak
TheGambitFreak - 3/7/2013, 2:21 PM
I 100% agree with him. However, Avengers and CBMs in general are aspired towards kids and teens. Which is cool. And just FYI, There was WAY too much blood coming out of the bodies getting shot up in Expendables. WAY too much. Anyways, I think it would've been a nice addition to have put this in Avengers.... Gives you a sense that Thor has his weaknesses...


jessepostal
jessepostal - 3/7/2013, 2:22 PM
@ridic, that's called the Hitchcock :)
ToTheManInTheColdSweat
ToTheManInTheColdSweat - 3/7/2013, 2:22 PM
ehmagerd, fack him, he dissed my favrite cbm, he's a hasbeen, xpendibles suxxx

:P
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 3/7/2013, 2:22 PM
Gotta give Dolph credit though, dude looks amazing at 55, and he's incredibly Brilliant. Most people don't know he was offered a Fullbright scholarship to freaking MIT.
sephiroth211
sephiroth211 - 3/7/2013, 2:23 PM
Holy hell, I didn't know these two dated at one time.



Lord above, thank you for not allowing those two to produce an offspring.
pro346
pro346 - 3/7/2013, 2:28 PM
Excessive CGI blood don't make a great action movie either....which is what expendables 2 had.
poop23
poop23 - 3/7/2013, 2:29 PM
This is how wolverine should be. For someone whose main ability is cutting people to pieces, there just should be a bit more blood
beyond2099
beyond2099 - 3/7/2013, 2:35 PM
dolph should play Drax in GOTG
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 3/7/2013, 2:37 PM
I agree, more practical effect would be good. Also, not every action scene needs blood everywhere.
webheaded
webheaded - 3/7/2013, 2:39 PM
WTF. He's starring in an Expendables movie and he's trying to talk about good filmmaking? Really?
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 3/7/2013, 2:40 PM
I can see where he's coming from since ther are afew scenes that makes you say that's probably not how that should have happened but it's a family friendly movie so it should show too much blood or the true out come of certain actions.
shamo
shamo - 3/7/2013, 2:40 PM
i'd of definitely preferred it. theres blood in the comics so why leave it out in the movie? but it didn't take me out the film or anything so its its meaningless in the grand scheme of thinks.

unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 3/7/2013, 2:42 PM
meant shouldn't show
Nemeres
Nemeres - 3/7/2013, 2:47 PM
What Avengers needed was some stakes, or higher ones. You knew that no one important was gonna die, that the generic aliens were gonna be defeated no matter what, etc. It was nice eye candy and all, but it was a little hollow.
Giznad
Giznad - 3/7/2013, 2:53 PM
there was blood on Loki's staff when he killed Coulson. That's good enough for me. Subtle.
NoJobBOB
NoJobBOB - 3/7/2013, 2:55 PM


He was just hoping he would've gotten to cameo as the Punisher so he could [frick] shit up. =]
NoJobBOB
NoJobBOB - 3/7/2013, 2:56 PM
@ Nomis

Wow...8 replies appeared just as I posted mine.

You beat me too it :[
IIIAdamantiumIII
IIIAdamantiumIII - 3/7/2013, 3:12 PM
Dolphy is stuck in the past his current films have been complete garbage
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