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Joe Johnston Finally Talks About Captain America!

Spoiler Alert! Fresh off wrapping up Universal's The Wolfman, director Joe Johnston gives us some insight into how The First Avenger: Captain America will be brought to life on screen.


Hungry for any details about the Star Spangled Avenger's live-action adventure? You're in luck, True Believers! BoxOffice.com's Amy Nicholson got the chance to talk with director Joe Johnston about Marvel's most anticipated feature film:

What can you tell me that people might not have already heard about Captain America?

"It's not going to be a Captain America that you expect. It's something different. It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction. It's the origin story of Captain America. It's mostly period - there are modern, present-day bookends on it - but it's basically the story of how Steve Rogers becomes Captain America."





"The great thing about Captain America is he's a super hero without any super powers. Which is why this story, among the hundreds of super hero stories, appealed to me the most. He can't fly, he can't see through walls, he can't do any of that stuff. He's an every man who's been given this amazing gift of transformation into the perfect specimen—the pinnacle of human perfection. How does that affect him? What does that mean for him emotionally and psychologically? He was this 98-pound weakling, he was this wimp, and he's transformed instantly into this Adonis. You'd think he got everything he wanted. Well, he didn't get everything he wanted. The rules change at that point and his life gets even more complicated and dire. For me, that's the interesting part of the story. It's got some great action sequences in it and some incredible stuff that we've never seen before. But at the heart of it, it's a story about this kid who all he wants to do is fit in. This thing happens and he still doesn't fit in. And he has to prove himself a hero—essentially go AWOL to save a friend. Eventually at the very end, I don't want to give away to much, but he does fit in. But it's the journey of getting him there that's interesting. And it's a lot of fun."

Information courtesy of BoxOffice.com


MPP - So, what can we discern from Joe Johnston's synopsis:

1. There are modern day bookends in the movie: Meaning that, while the bulk of the film will take showcase the WWII era, the beginning and end will take place in the present time. Could it possibly be Nick Fury searching for Cap at the beginning and his being thawed out of the ice at the end? Sounds like a direct lead-in to The Avengers movie!

2. During the middle of the film, Cap will have to go AWOL (Absent Without Leave, commonly known as desertion) to save a friend: The most likely mainstream candidates that come to mind are Bucky or possibly even Union Jack.

3. 'It's not going to be a Captain America that you expect. It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction': To me, this means the film won't favor one continuity. The most logical assumption is a 50/50 mix of the mainstream and Ultimate Marvel universes with a dash of originality added throughout to keep us all surprised.

Well that's definitely enough to keep me happy for today! Many, many thanks to Amy at BoxOffice.com for finally getting us crazy fanboys some Cap news!


Make sure you all follow the jump to read the rest of the interview where Joe talks about the future of Jurassic Park 4!




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MultiPurposePoni
1/13/2010
BoxOffice.com

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224 Comments

cool, and thats a kickass poster at the bottom btw!
jok3rsc0usin - 1/13/2010, 9:40 PM
That's a movie I want to see!
thwhtGuardian - 1/13/2010, 9:42 PM
Damn, I just posted this and there are already two links to it on Twitter! Give a guy a minute to market his stuff you filthy bastards LOL

I don't post that often but feel free to follow me Twitter: Poni_Boy
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 9:42 PM
FINALLY SOME NEWS!!! Thanks a lot Multi. I hope we get to see Bucky. Hopefully he'll be that friend Cap has to save.
BigMacYak - 1/13/2010, 9:48 PM
Sounds good. I'm glad we're not getting the Team America treatment. Cap is all about trying as hard as he can to do amazing things. His will is superhuman. Good find Multi.

@bigmacyak: Yeah, I'd like to see Bucky, but I wouldn't mind if they changed the costume. I liked how in the Ultimates (didn't like the book overall) that Bucky is a military journalist that has befriended cap by following him around.
Upupandaway - 1/13/2010, 9:52 PM
Captain America is gonna rock
great find multi
tyko450 - 1/13/2010, 9:55 PM
Finally some news. Nice find Multi.

Now its confirmed that the film will end in modern times leading to The Avengers. This is just awesome.
DCMarvelFreshman - 1/13/2010, 10:07 PM
MULTI- GOOD FIND!

I HOPE AT THE END OR THE BEGINING HE GETS HIS
ULTIMATE "COSTUME"..THATS THE BEST ONE, BASICLLY
ARMY FATUGUES WIYJ RED WHITE AND BLUE..HE HAS TO
HAVE THE SHIELD! 40's VERSION OF COURSE..THIS IS GREAT NEWS!
peterparker420 - 1/13/2010, 10:08 PM
I don't know WHO made that "movie" poster..but..
WOW..I want it FRAMED in my living room!
peterparker420 - 1/13/2010, 10:09 PM
Sorry guys, I can't help myself!



I'm glad you're all as freaking excited about this flick as I am! It'll be the CBM of the (new) decade!
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 10:12 PM
So far it sounds good, and Johnstons a good director. The book ends thing leads me to believe that the movie will start with the discovery of cap, and show his thawing throughout the opening credits, then it cuts into his life in the middle, and ends with him waking up in modern times and joining fury.
Shadowelfz - 1/13/2010, 10:22 PM
Very cool stuff indeed. We knew most of this already but hopefully this will start the steady diet of Cap News! The AWOL part sounds very intriguing. Who does he have to save and why? Is Red Skull a shoe in for this movie or will it be standard WWII soldier bad guys?
DogsOfWar - 1/13/2010, 10:22 PM
No need to apologize multi, just put us all out of our misery and confirm that you are indeed Captain America. ;p
thwhtGuardian - 1/13/2010, 10:23 PM
Fine, I'll officially confess: I'm playing Captain America

Jessica Biel has been cast as Bucky. Her blue and red costume is actually going to be spray painted on to help alleviate production costs. So far we have three love scenes together in the script, but she's pushing for two more. Saucy little minx

To answer Dogs question: Yes, Red Skull will be in the movie. The role will be played by a topless Kate Beckinsale wearing thigh high leather boots and a red skull cap.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 10:27 PM
Anyone else get the feeling there going to go much younger than any of the fan pics. His use of the term "Kid" has me thinking that. Good find, Poni.

Ugh - 1/13/2010, 10:27 PM
Hmmm, has me worried, hope this doesn't suck.
kylemf88 - 1/13/2010, 10:30 PM
Good point Ugh, maybe all the 30 something actors should get tossed out.

LEEE has a good looking pick with Armie Hammer. Love the name but haven't seen him act.
DogsOfWar - 1/13/2010, 10:31 PM
I'm starting to like Ryan Kwanten more & more for this role.
DogsOfWar - 1/13/2010, 10:32 PM
Not only good find, Multi, but great synopsis as well!
California - 1/13/2010, 10:34 PM
@Cali: Thanks bud

@Dogs: I'd like to know how that guy Rick Malambri's audition went. He definitely has the look to play Cap:


MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 10:36 PM
Yeah, this is what he posted later

"Thing I learned today: not to Twitter about your auditions. Especially when it may cause a media craze."

I'm guessing it didn't go too well
DogsOfWar - 1/13/2010, 10:38 PM
@Dogs: He also Tweeted

"Met two amazingly cool people today from Legendary Pictures...can't wait to hopefully work w/ them soon."

Legendary has a has in every DC film - Watchmen, TDK, Superman, etc.

Could he be up for a role in Green Lantern as well?
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 10:44 PM
What great news to await me at home!

Poni, you're synopsis of Johnston's remarks goes to show that you and I think alot alike. I'll be glad to finally see you on the silver screen! ;p
Phinehas - 1/13/2010, 10:45 PM
You're in for a pleasant surprise Phin, old boy. The lighting their using makes my cocoa butter sparkle :)

On a slightly more serious note, I'm wondering if I should wear my WWII Cap costume to Comic Con this year. Hmmmm
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 10:48 PM
Phin-stop sucking his Poni for once! j/k

There is a article about Hunter Parrish talking Spider-Man role. He is just joking with the interviewer but he looks more Cap than Peter in my book!
DogsOfWar - 1/13/2010, 10:48 PM
Sounds awesome!
superheromoviefan - 1/13/2010, 10:48 PM
Can't wait 4 this one, after reading this idea of Johnston it doesn't sound bad. Excelsior!!
JLAvenger23 - 1/13/2010, 10:49 PM
stoked for Cap, not a big fan of Joey (ruined JP for me) but he's made better movies in the past so i'm excited to see what he's got for Cap
Ipkiss - 1/13/2010, 10:53 PM
DogsOfWar-
Yeah, but I can do it with out an accent! ;)

MPP-
If you're gonna go, go in style!


Phinehas - 1/13/2010, 10:56 PM
Don't start that crap again! It took me 12 hours to get the hook out of my mouth
DogsOfWar - 1/13/2010, 10:59 PM
@Dogs: Next time try using your hands instead of your feet

@Phin: Well, I was going to go with either Cap or Green Lantern, but I'm about halfway through with my next costume. I think this one will definitely top the rest but I don't know if I'll have it ready in time.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 11:01 PM
I hope we get a little bit of the old with the new , meaning a modern marvel universe w/ the new nick fury etc. etc. , (which i'm no big fan of) and the real cap w/ bucky and possibly the invaders, a cameo with namor would be cool as well.
been waiting my whole life for this , thanks for the info....GUNN LIKE'S !!!
gunner - 1/13/2010, 11:02 PM
Go as flashy as you can! Girls dig it!
Phinehas - 1/13/2010, 11:11 PM
Photobucket
jok3rsc0usin - 1/13/2010, 11:13 PM
thats exactly how i want the film to look!
jok3rsc0usin - 1/13/2010, 11:13 PM
@Phin: Flashy enough?

Maverick Pictures, Images and Photos
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 11:15 PM
MPP
Can't go wrong with yellow/gold! You can probably see it from space.
Phinehas - 1/13/2010, 11:19 PM
Does it come with the laser sighted hand gun?
DogsOfWar - 1/13/2010, 11:20 PM
@Phin: I haven't started painting it yet. It will definitely be more gold than yellow, just not sparkly gold. Right now I'm trying to get this stupid little motor to work so it can open the stupid visor attached to the stupid helmet

@Dogs: Yes. Two of them. I was going to put a laser sight on the rocket launcher but. . . well. . it's a rocket launcher.

Sh!t, I need to get to bed. Between studying, working, finding news to write about and tinkering with this f&%king costume I'm surprised I still have a sex life at all LOL
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 11:21 PM
What's the problem with the motor?
Phinehas - 1/13/2010, 11:31 PM
The cyclic rate is too fast on the servo motor I'm using and it keeps eating up the two little cogs on either side that pull the visor back.

To hell with it. I'm gonna trash it and just buy a motorized helmet visor.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 11:36 PM
Can't wait to see it man! The important question is which of the 3 do you suit up to take on the guy who did his own Iron Man & War Machine?
DogsOfWar - 1/13/2010, 11:41 PM
Is your voltage too high?
Phinehas - 1/13/2010, 11:41 PM
@Dogs: I do that neked. Seriously though, the guy who won the costume contest (Daredevil) wants to get together and make a fan film. I think I'm going to try and get in touch with that Iron Man guy MasterLe to see if he wants to join in.

@Phin: Yep. But it's not adjustable. I tried using a smaller power source but then it isn't strong enough to lift the faceplate.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 11:44 PM
Sounds good. I like that the cap we'll get is the proper, non-can-beat-up-giant-man cap.

Not sure about the bookends. I'd much rather if the movie was entirely set in the 40s, then halfway through the credits, or perhaps after the credits, we get to see a SHIELD submarine sailing (do submarines sail? is that the word?) through the arctic and coming across a certin block of ice.
Frank Garret - 1/13/2010, 11:46 PM
What are you using for power?
Phinehas - 1/13/2010, 11:53 PM
Two 11.1V LiPo batteries
MultiPurposePoni - 1/13/2010, 11:57 PM
No, voltage sizes?
And your gear-cogs...plastic?
Phinehas - 1/13/2010, 11:58 PM
Yep, really light plastic ones too. I've burned through eight so far. I made two aluminum cogs today with a Dremel tool but when they spun they turned into mini circular saws.

Here are the specs of the motor:

Torque: 15.27 / 18.05 oz.in
Size: 0.89" x 0.45" x 0.94"
MultiPurposePoni - 1/14/2010, 12:00 AM
11.1, so then how low did you go?
Phinehas - 1/14/2010, 12:07 AM
I've tried it with two batteries and it's too much power output (22.2V), but one 11.1V isn't strong enough. The faceplate barely makes it halfway up the helmet. Originally I only thought I needed around 4V to get this thing working.

I think if I add another servo to the other side I can get away with two 7.4V batteries. The problem with that is getting the timing synchronized so the two motors work simultaneously.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/14/2010, 12:11 AM
You use a single double-throw switch for two switch-legs to the respective batteries to the individual motors. Should work at the same time if your wire lengths and everything is identical.
But can't you combine two 7.4 batteries to the single motor?
Phinehas - 1/14/2010, 12:16 AM
Nice article, Multi... I like the direction it sounds like they are going to take. It also does dictate that to cover the origin story we are looking at early to mid-twenties looking actor. That discards a boat load of the actors that have been mentioned.
Ranger14 - 1/14/2010, 12:18 AM
It would be too bulky to put another battery on one side of the helmet. It's already really lopsided on my head as is with the motor and single batt. Oh well, back to formula.

Maybe I should scrap the whole thing and just push the damned thing up with my hand.

Catch up with me later today, I'll need more advise. Bedtime now before I fall asleep on the computer. Again.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/14/2010, 12:19 AM
Can't you put the battery on your back?
Phinehas - 1/14/2010, 12:21 AM
F@%& me sideways!!!! this is awsome!!
spacemantony - 1/14/2010, 12:58 AM
dont know about u guys but im worried. he directed the fallowing..

# Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1989) (director)
# The Rocketeer (1991) (director)
# The Pagemaster (1994) (director [live-action scenes])
# Jumanji (1995) (director)
# October Sky (1999) (director)
# Jurassic Park III (2001) (director)
# Hidalgo (2004) (director)

all kiddie disney movies.. and he ruined jurassic park.
z3ro - 1/14/2010, 1:09 AM
sounds like he might make captain america more of a disney type feel good movie. =\ dont expect a gritty world war 2 movie from this guy. expect something light and disney and campy
z3ro - 1/14/2010, 1:10 AM
His comment at the beginning of the article is what worries me.

"It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction."

I don't like speculating but the possibility that this arose in my mind was that they might not include the Red Skull in this movie to make it a more realistic period piece. I don't know, what do you guys think?
TheDrizzle - 1/14/2010, 1:11 AM
Yeah good find! And that pic of Malambri has convinced me too
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 1:24 AM
Thedrizzle@ i agree.. To use the term "influenced" sounds a bit weird... And i am not totally sure that does it means a mix 50/50% classic/ultimate
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 1:32 AM
"It's not going to be a Captain America that you expect. It's something different. It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction"


RED ALERT PEOPLE. READ THAT AGAIN! dont come bitching on here when the movie comes out that its not anything like the comic!
z3ro - 1/14/2010, 1:33 AM
I don't know, Red Skull isn't a very unrealistic character. He's a nazi in a mask.
Frank Garret - 1/14/2010, 1:34 AM
Can i do a supposition without you insulting me? We didn't read nowhere from marvel or productors or director that the movie take place in WW2. Maybe could they use a more recent war, as made for IM?
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 1:49 AM
Well, I would love to see a WWII Movie with some, Marvel Flair in it. But they have to go all the way, not some Pearl Habour stuff. I'm talking Private Ryan stuff. That would be awesome.

@Mister Fixit
If they would pull it off right, thats fine with me.
Darantino - 1/14/2010, 1:54 AM
Could be fine with me too. This only would means no "classic" red skull
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 2:05 AM
I hate it when directors say stuff you've never seen before then produce more of the same.
breakUbatman - 1/14/2010, 2:10 AM
Break@ i agree. At least very very few directors have made something really original. Cameron,Wachoski brothers..
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 2:20 AM
No classic RED SKULL, [frick]ing HOLLYWOOD!! ; p

Anyway ARMIE HAMMER for CAP!!!!



Armie Hammer born 28 August 1986, Los Angeles, California, USA, all American blonde blue eyed guy. He is 6' 5" just a little over Steve Rogers but at least he's not 5 foot nothing, he would have a great presence on screen. Hammer is a really good actor, probably better known to some as the son of the devil on "The Reaper" TV show. He is in his twenties, perfect for a World War Two Steve Rogers/Captain America, he looks just like Steve Rogers, like he's jumped right out of the Marvel/Timely comic book pages, and better still he still has that 'unknown' factor about him, perfect for the start up of the Captain America franchise!

LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 2:28 AM
DOGS @ ; )

z3ro @ I hear ya man!

Though ROCKETEER is one of my all time fav CBM's but then again you cant mess with SKULL, look what happened when they messed with SKULL in the 1990 movie lol!

I mean if their not going to have SKULL in his trademark RED SKULL what is the point having him in there at all??!

I don't get it, CAP is going to lead into AVENGERS but they think RED SKULL is unrealistic??

Suppose we can kiss good bye to a couple of INVADERS cameo's or even flash back now!
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 2:31 AM
Lee@ go to sleep!
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 2:42 AM
MISTERFIXIT @ It wont be [frick]ing fine with me!!!

CAPS gotta come from WWII!!!! Or dont bother making it!

zzzzzzzzz


LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 2:42 AM
I know,i know you are all classical way
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 2:46 AM
"It's not going to be a Captain America that you expect." Oh my God..

"What does that mean for him emotionally and psychologically?" Oh my God again..you mean it's like Eric Bana's take on the Hulk? Oh my God again..




sadmamba - 1/14/2010, 2:48 AM
Maybe a litte bit emo-cap in the first half of the movie
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 2:53 AM
if thats the case, Robert Pattinson for Emo-Cap!
sadmamba - 1/14/2010, 2:55 AM
FIXIT @ ; D

sadmamba @ Why do HOLLYWOOD think their own personal take on comic book characters is best????


Because its been proven so many time they are not!!

Why mend what is not broken!!!?

IF you take away WWII, you take away CAP!

IF you mess with RED SKULL, whats the point of calling him RED SKULL??!

Not good.

LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 2:56 AM
Don't even joke about Robert [frick]ing Pattinson lol!!! : D
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 2:58 AM
@ Leee: yup.
sadmamba - 1/14/2010, 2:59 AM
@leee LOL!!! coz hollywood might hear us :D
sadmamba - 1/14/2010, 3:00 AM
Of course i would like a completely true to the source cap,lee@. I tried some speculations,and nobody from production has mentioned WW2 until now
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 3:10 AM
So wait...no super powers? I always thought that Cap had a measure of superhuman strength, speed and healing and thats why he survived in the iceberg. PLUS in INcredible Hulk they use the super soldier serum on Tim Roth (?) and he does become stronger and regens from having all his bones brocken in less than a day!!!
Sektos - 1/14/2010, 3:31 AM
Strength,speed and healing a bit implemented,yeah,but not real superpowers. It is correct to go this way
MisterFixit - 1/14/2010, 4:01 AM
sadmamba @ yeah lol!! : D

MISTERFIXIT @ Lets just hope they don't [frick] it up!!

I mean we don't want page to page SOURCE but the basics of who and what CAP and RED SKULL are, make them who they are, if they change this, it'll be a cluster [frick]!

Fingers crossed, after all the dude did ROCKETEER one of the best faithful cbm's ever made!

LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 4:17 AM
This sounds so good! He sounds like he gets it totally!
wards - 1/14/2010, 4:33 AM
"It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction."

Huh, not sure how I feel about that...I guess its too early to worry yet, but I'd really like to know what this different direction is! I guess the best part about it being in WWII is the fact they can tell any story they like as there are so many comic books featuring various Captain America war stories! I just hope he doesnt mean that we'll see completely different versions of characters like The Red Skull!

Despite that though, from what he has said I'm now even more excited for this movie!
JoshW - 1/14/2010, 5:25 AM
JOSH @ Yeah its is too early though i don't think anyone wants a BORIGINS CAPTAIN AMERICA WARZONE movie lol!!

They better not change too much!! We need the basics!
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 5:27 AM
"It's not going to be a Captain America that you expect. It's something different. It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction."

That can mean TWO things.....

It may be as Poni stated... a sprikle of Classic and Ultimate.
Thats fine.

OR

We get Knucklehead Studio Execs stepping in and giving us classics such as Spiderman 3 (and probably 4), Superman Returns, X3,Ang Lee's Hulk,Etc,etc,etc.

As village Naysayer it is my job to be skeptical.
However, My Spider Sense isnt ringing on This one either.

Yet.

Just DONT mess w/ Cap in a way that he Isnt American and I will be ok.
Skyh00k - 1/14/2010, 5:30 AM
@ Mutli: First off amazing find. Thank you.

secondly Johnston saying it takes off in a different direction does not in any way indicate the degree to which the character will be Ultimatized.
Even though I am sure there will be plenty of that because sadly most fans seem to want it, however I do not believe his statements necessarily refers to it.

Actually we don't what the hell he's talking about. He certainly didn't explain it.
SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 5:33 AM
sounds like it could be really good. hate the fan poster.
grif - 1/14/2010, 5:45 AM
LEE: Yeah, I really hope they dont mess with the character too much! I'm just hoping that they include Bucky or at least another comic book character like the one in my avatar, lol! :)

DARTH: I agree - him saying that its influenced by the comics but goes off in another direction gives no indication that it will follow The Ultimates as that is a comic book!! I have a feeling that the story might just be completely unique and something perhaps not seen in the comic books...which is fine if they do it right!

Guys, check out my updated Amazing Spider-Man Fan Cast under "Fan Fic"!!!
JoshW - 1/14/2010, 5:58 AM
"It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction."

I must admit that this sentence raised red flags with me as well. I can't say I like the sound of this statement.
Angelo - 1/14/2010, 6:01 AM
HONESTLLY, THIS IS A COOL TAKE..IF YOU GET THE MAIN JIST OF HIS ORIGIN STORY YOU HAVE A WINNER, BESIDES, MARVEL HAS ITS WRITERS OVERSEEING THE DEVELOPMENT AND INTERJECTING ITS IDEAS SO I THINK WE'RE SAFE. YOU WANT SOMETHING NEW AND FRESH, SOMETHING THAT WILL INTREST PEOPLE THAT KNOW CAPTAIN AMERICA AND NEWCOMERS THA DON'T KNOW A THING. WHAT IV'E ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE WAS THAT HUMAN SIDE OF THE STORY, THE NOBODY WITH A HUGE HEART BECOMING AN ICONIC SYMBOL OF AMERICA..THE SUPERHERO STUFF IS COOL BUT THATS THE HEART OF THE STORY RIGHT THERE..THIS STORY HAS PROMISE.
GUNSMITH - 1/14/2010, 6:04 AM
AND PLEASE JOE, NO ITALIAN MOBSTER RED SKULL OR LATEX RUBBER CAPTAIN AMERICA SUITS.
GUNSMITH - 1/14/2010, 6:07 AM
Definitly sounding more and more like saving private Ryan. Bookended by modern day = check, going off to save someone = check, set mostly in WWII = check. This could seriously be the most epic CBM ever!
Boekelaar - 1/14/2010, 6:10 AM
RED FLAG TIME is right!!!


JOSH @ Well i hope so too dude!!

They are filming it in ENGLAND maybe right, you might get your wish with UNION JACK, and/or BUCKY!! Though the way this guys talking, he thinks the RED SKULL is a tad too much, not a good sign!

Hell we may even get a CAPTAIN AMERICA in full army gear with no outfit!!!

Okay im playing but hell, it could [frick]ing happen!

Still we gotta wait for more info, coz the guy basically says nothing up there about anything really.

Rite zzzzzzzz time! ; D


LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 6:13 AM
I guess they don't want to waist tim looking for Cap in the Avengers that's cool.
StrangemannX09 - 1/14/2010, 6:14 AM
@LEEE: When did you become such a crybaby?!? Jesus, dude, you sound you're turning into more of a c*nt every day!

You don't have to be negative on every article. Freaking relax! Take a Valium or go get laid.

And why do you find the NEED to make sh!t up now? Almost every article this past week has you coming up with some ridiculous notion that you KNOW is fact.

I liked you better when you were the happy CBM guy. I miss that guy. Now you're just getting freaking annoying.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/14/2010, 6:24 AM
"It's not going to be a Captain America that you expect. It's something different. It is influenced by the comic book, but it goes off in a completely different direction."

Nothing about this statement or his history of films is particularly comforting when it comes to doing this one. Everyone cheering about how awesome this is now had better not say a word about how much it doesn't follow the source material when this movie opens.

And count me among those who despise the Ultimate WWII costume at the very least. It's not what he wore in WWI. He was meant as a symbol, not as just another soldier. That's why he looked the way he did in WWII stories that were made... you know... during WWII. Novel idea, I know.

If nothing else, if that costume is what's used for the posters, you're going to turn off people who haven't picked up a comic since that was made. As I keep saying in these discussions use elements of the Ultimates if you really think you need to, but going with the classic looks is what will bring in the mainstream. Hardcore fanboys alone won't make the movie a big enough success to anchor the rest of the Avengers films.

Make a film that doesn't bring in the masses and it will be a weak lead-in to the Avengers movie. They're labeling Cap as the first Avenger right in the title. This needs to be done right, and using a bunch of elements that take Cap away from the look that was recognizable for 60-odd years will not bring in the masses who don't know or care about your precious Ultimate universe.

As of right now, only Iron Man has been a runaway hit for the Avengers franchise. TIH did no better at the box office than its Ang Lee predecessor, despite what some of you seem to think. I have had high hopes for Thor since Kenneth Branaugh was announced, but we really need Cap to be a slam-dunk runaway like Iron Man to make sure people want to turn out to see the team as a whole.

Don't let this movie create any negative buzz for the franchise that he's going to be a major part of. Iron Man has been done well. If this lead-in is done right, when you put them all together in the first Avengers movie, you've got the potential to make a blockbuster epic story that will satisfy most people here AND challenge the likes of Avatar and Titanic for box office numbers.

@Sektos -- Cap has no superhuman powers. The Super-Soldier formula raised his body to the peak of human potential. Nothing more than that.
TheDemonHunter - 1/14/2010, 6:26 AM
lol He got bitter after he was put on the "vote for the troll of the year award".

Anyway my friends I would be sooooo thrilled if they put Union jack in it too! OMG that would rock! Guest star CITY!!!
SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 6:30 AM
wicked find multi

finally some news, im staying positive with this one :)
ukboy28 - 1/14/2010, 6:33 AM
MULTI @ THANKS FOR THAT!!!

I'm just giving my opinion, damn POWER has gone to your HEAD ain't it mate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When do i bitch on you, when YOU have a view!!!????


Yeah right......................
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 6:34 AM
@DemonHunter: Dude, you're one of the few on this site that doesn't want to see the WWII Cap costume or something similar. It's the perfect combination of superhero and soldier. It is WAY more realistic than having him start his career in spandex and swashbuckler boots. I'm pretty sure mainstream audiences would love seeing the Ultimate WWII getup.

@LEEE: No, you being a sourpuss has nothing to do with me being an editor. Now you're just finding excuses to bitch and moan like FAD does.

I just spent the morning reading about 30 or 40 of your last comments on a bunch of articles and you seemed to have turned into a freaking piss ant. Every article you've commented on shows you being a downer. Why can't you just go back to your normal, happy setting? Hit the reset button or something, man. I used to look forward to reading your comments because they made me laugh, hell they were some of highlights of my sh!tty days!. Now I try hard to skip over them.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/14/2010, 6:34 AM
P.S. Thanks for calling me a C*NT!!
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 6:36 AM
@Multi -- I'm rather realistic about this. Bring in a main character whose costume is that far away from what the general public has known for six or seven decades and you're limiting the appeal of the movie. I respect that some people here think it's the greatest thing ever, but if it's out there on every poster, I guarantee you that they lose some people right then and there.
TheDemonHunter - 1/14/2010, 6:37 AM
lmfao i love that word!!!
ukboy28 - 1/14/2010, 6:37 AM
For the record, they can lose the swashbuckler boots and he's still recognizable as Cap. Making it so he's wearing fatigues that are a subdued version of his classic look goes too far though.
TheDemonHunter - 1/14/2010, 6:40 AM
@ Demonhunter: Interesting thoughts sir. You know what's wierd? I have been slowly beaten into submission about the outfit. I just sort of miserably accept it because there's nothing esle for me to do. The fact is that the Ultimates iz teh best crowd own the world now. And people that own things get to do what they want with them. That's just the way it works. So if your someone who appreciates the old school your basically S-O-L. End of story

@ Multipurposeponi: I just re read all of LEEE777's comments... Do you really think he was whining? I'm not so sure, really. I don't necessarily hear that.
SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 6:42 AM
Where did that movie poster come from?
astromerc - 1/14/2010, 6:42 AM
MULTI @ Whats wrong with FAD???

And most of my bitching and moaning is about the SPIDER-MAN reboot!

Just coz you love the idea and been gunning for it for ages and i disagree, im not moaning here im just worried what the dude said,,,

Don't really like being attacked for nothing dude, cheers for that, an i wasn't the only one worried here either!!

Damn.




LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 6:45 AM
Thanks @ DARTH!!
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 6:46 AM
I PREFER THE CLASSIC LOOK

CHAINMAIL, WAY TO HEAVY FOR HIS ATHLETICISM...


GUNSMITH - 1/14/2010, 6:50 AM
@LEEE: No you're not the only one worried bud, but you seem to go off on a tangent were as others are just stating their concern.

Where does it say that this guy doesn't want Red Skull in the movie? You seem to be convinced he doesn't. That's what I mean by you being excessive.

Regarding the Spider-Man articles, it got old real fast that you have to say '[frick] a reboot' ten times on each page. Don't you think that's a bit obsessive?

Sorry if you took the 'c' word as too brash. I'm from Boston and we use it a lot.

I know a lot of people complain about a lot of things, but something happened with you a few weeks ago and you've changed, dude. If I just saw that you were reacting negatively to one topic it would be different, but lately you seem to find something wrong with every article. I rarely see a happy side to your comments and I really miss that. Like I said before, reading your comments were one of the funnest things about CBM.

Oh, and this isn't out of the blue. I've mentioned this same stuff to you before over the past couple of days, just not as drastic. You chose not to respond to the times I've asked you why you're being so negative. I got tired of waiting for an answer.

@Darth: If it's the troll award thing that's made him this way it's a silly reason. Maybe he's just having a sh!tty month at home or something. But since he hasn't answered me any other time I've asked him I wouldn't know.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/14/2010, 6:51 AM
@DarthMulder -- I think that it's fine to go the Ultimate route with some things. In some cases they were simply modernized versions of the classics, and I have no issue with stuff like that. Going too far with the visuals however shows that your franchise is setup to cater strictly to that crowd however. That limits the overall appeal for those who don't spend a lot of time in comic shops or on sites like this.


Film is a visual medium, gang. You have to make sure that your visuals will appeal to the masses as much as the story will to bring in the big numbers that we want for funding more stuff down the road. When you narrow it down so that just the fanboys can recognize what's going on at first glance on your posters, you're going to lose the mainstream.

Cap is one of the few heroes whose iconic, classic look is what makes him who he is. Changing it so he's too much like just another soldier is not a good thing, no matter how much people here want to praise it as being more realistic.
TheDemonHunter - 1/14/2010, 6:57 AM
MULTI @ I'm not negative man, but why cant we issue our concerns, thats what this is for, when a lot of cbm's lately have been crap i.e. SPIRIT , WARZONE etc, i don't think anyone should be blind to any little bits of news on any comic book movie that sound iffy!!

We got to stick to our thoughts and concerns, its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!

And yes im very pissed off with the SPIDEY reboot, but i'll keep that to SPIDEY articles lol.

P.S. Lol, i aint said [frick] a reboot on the same page, maybe twice (once) ; D


Ffs we're all cbm fans here, we all want good comic book movies!
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 7:00 AM
101 @ SHAMAN @ Argggghhhhhh!!!

Where'd you go??! : D
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 7:02 AM
@ Multi: I agree. But as I recall he did sort of take it hard.

lol Just try to remember what I said about Skyh00k and Grif: The world needs it's Archie Bunkers and Oscar The Grouches. A guy can be a naysayer if he wants to, and while it may not please us to read it, there's a place for that. personally I am interested in all opinions.

There are people around here that drive me crazy, that's for sure. Movietheaterlad and Superalex come to mind. But I still read what they say, and I'm not going to tell them they shouldn't speak their minds because it seems unfair.


SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 7:03 AM
Well to me this is all good news!!! But this is truly what i want to see:

JENSEN ACKLES FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!












What? LEEE started it LOL :P

LEEE- Well i thought i was 100 but turns out i was 116 LOL :P Backfire...
Shaman - 1/14/2010, 7:04 AM
@LEEE: See? That last comment directed at me was fine! You explained yourself rationally and didn't need to get sour. It has nothing to do with what you agree/disagree with, it's the manner in which you express yourself. We have enough naysayers and negative people on this site that just talk sh!t for attention, you don't have to join their ranks. Stay away from the Dark Side, regardless of what DarthMulder promises you.

@Darth: The day I have to lump LEEE in with grif and those guys would be a sad day, bud. I know your forensic Jedi mind tricks are responsible, I just can't prove it yet.

@Shaman: No to Ackles, Yes to the WWII costume!
MultiPurposePoni - 1/14/2010, 7:09 AM
SHAMAN @ then that made me 117 lol! : P
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 7:10 AM
My last comment was =


"101 @ SHAMAN @ Argggghhhhhh!!!

Where'd you go??! : D"

LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 7:02 AM


Lol???
LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 7:11 AM
@ Demonhunter: yeah some modernizing is definitely in order. I agree with what you said above about the swashbuckler boots. Swashbuckler boots are for poirates! arrrrrrrrrrrrr

But Cap is supposed to look like a walking flag. That's the whole idea. So where on the flag is there brown? Or gray?


@ LEEE: the problem with Fad is that all she ever does any more is attack Multi for no good reason. It's very... strange. I can't figure out why she focuses on HIM specifically. it's weird.
SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 7:12 AM
What did i miss??

Good stuff Multi :P
teabag - 1/14/2010, 7:26 AM
Hey LEEE & MPP, can we see a hug? Put all this silliness behind us? lol

As for the movie, I do like the idea that it's gonna bookend in modern times. I do wonder what he means by "Taking it in a completely different direction." but for now I'm still excited to see what he's gonna make of the Cap. :)
Runefyst - 1/14/2010, 7:34 AM
darth@ ive noticed that to man
ukboy28 - 1/14/2010, 7:36 AM
The different direction he is referring to is, I would bet, Cap already being found in present day, still unconscious. Probably replaying past events in his own mind while being thawn out.

As far as The Ultimate look goes.You have to remember that Cap has fans that could be pulled into the theaters to see this that have not picked up a book in 30 years or more.
He was used in wartime propaganda pamphlets and distributed everywhere. We are hardcore fans and know all of his various looks. But there are many who have simply outgrown comics who would go see this for a nostalgia feeling.
If they see a trailer on TV they will go "OH COOL CAPTAIN AMERICA," haven't seen him in years. Oh wait, who the Hell is this guy? Thats not the Cap I remember.

There are 2 iconic costumes in the comics that may look out of place (if you will) on screen, but EVERYBODY remembers them. Superman and Captain America. Supermans works well, give Caps a shot before changing it all to Hell.
Hawksblueyes - 1/14/2010, 7:36 AM
Rune @ "Taking it in a completely different direction."

Exactly dude, who wouldn't be worried!!

And (((((((((( HUGS )))))))))))

Sorry had a phone call by the way!

DARTH @ Cant say ive seen FAD attack anyone??


Anyway im beginning to get my own full end of attacks lately lol! : P


LEEE777 - 1/14/2010, 7:40 AM
This news sounds AWESOME! It's exactly what's needed. Fingers crossed this is how it will turn out!
Ron - 1/14/2010, 7:42 AM
And why in the world did the interviewer not ask the one question on everyones mind? When can we expect a casting announcement?

LEEE: Don't let anyone fill your end up with attacks.:)
Hawksblueyes - 1/14/2010, 7:43 AM
TRUE, DON'T CHANGE IT IF YOU HAVENT SHOWN IT YET.
GUNSMITH - 1/14/2010, 7:44 AM
ANY costume would be cool to me. I just feel it more believable for him to have altered fatigues while in WW2. But i'll take any one of them, really. I'm all up for different directions too but i don't want them to stray too far from either universes. The comics are proof of what sells, not what the studios want. But since Marvel is that studio, i doubt we need to worry much. I'd love it if they incorporated the same feel as the first Hellboy's opening. That would look awesome!!!
Shaman - 1/14/2010, 7:45 AM
@ UKboy: I don't know if you have been around long enough to know this but FAD used to post and discuss all kinds of things about comics and movies and everything else. Now she's just jumping on dudes case for no reason every time she pops up. lol I told Mulit I think she likes him.... lucky dog lololol
SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 7:48 AM
darth@ i remember when everyone was talking about capt casting and multi said something about a source and chris O'Donnell and she had a massive go at him then and a few times after lol lucky dog lmfao indeed man :)
ukboy28 - 1/14/2010, 7:53 AM
@Hawksblueyes -- I could definitely see something like that happening for the plot. It would certainly fit the whole idea of it being bookended by modern times idea, very much like Saving Private Ryan was.

I'm very happy that someone else understands what I'm getting at where the costume is concerned. Captain America is a huge iconic figure and is well known outside the realm of fanboys, because he's been around forever and is known for that look. Turning their backs on that kind of drawing power would be a huge mistake. Too often, people lose sight of things like that.

The kids who only know the Ultimates, will still recognize Cap in something closer to his classic look, as his modern suit in the Ultimate universe isn't radically different. The people who haven't read comics in the last eight to ten years won't have quite the same easy recognition.

This property is a big one for Marvel. If they handle it right, they can bring in big, big audiences. If they narrow it down by going with the Ultimate WWII suit, I really think they're going to miss out on a great opportunity to really go big-time.
TheDemonHunter - 1/14/2010, 7:56 AM
@ Hawk's true dat

@ LEEE: read my reply to UKboy. lol dude said "full end"
Don't drop the soap?

@ Gunsmith: what the heck r u talking about amigo?
SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 7:58 AM
@Shaman -- If you want to go by sales numbers, today's comics are merely a fraction of WWII Cap's numbers. His circulation was better than Time magazine. Yes, seriously over a million each month. That kind of recognition can't be matched by the exposure today. Take advantage of that. Embrace it.
TheDemonHunter - 1/14/2010, 8:04 AM
darth@ roflmfao i guess lee aint dodging balls like stiller then :00
ukboy28 - 1/14/2010, 8:06 AM
@ Demonhunter: I sort of ... love you now. Is that ok? lmao

Seriously that maybe my favorite post of all time. No one will listen of course, but damn...
SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 8:08 AM
Great poster Multi.
WelcomeMat - 1/14/2010, 8:08 AM
@DarthMulder -- LMAO. Thank you. I think. :D
TheDemonHunter - 1/14/2010, 8:10 AM
@Darth: I don't know what FAD's deal is. Some people just don't mesh I guess.

@uk: don't start mentioning ball dodging or teabag will get excited

@Demon: The thing is that it's only logical for Cap to wear a uniform akin to the Ultimate WWII one for this movie. If they are truly trying to ground this in reality ala Iron Man, then why wouldn't the Army suit Cap up with a helmet and standard troop gear? He's not a superhuman, so he's still vulnerable to gunfire. Plus, he would need more than a shield to effectively fight in the trenches. The Ultimate version of the costume is more believable to audiences than the mainstream one they had him in the the 1940s. It maintains all of the symbolism that a Cap costume should have, so it's not a disregard to the past at all. I'm not a fan of the Ultimate series of comics, but I think their version of WWII Cap is one of the most well thought out costumes in years.

I could go on and on about it, but you can read my thoughts here instead:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=11524

Let's try not to forget that this is a Marvel Studios film. So far they are two for two and that's a better track record for superhero movies than every other studio in Hollywood.

Whatever changes they make for such an iconic character will be either for necessity or continuity.

@LEEE: Hug, hug. . kiss, kiss. . big HUG. . little kiss

Sorry for calling you a c*nt. Again, I'm from Boston. That's a fairly common word for us, like wicked. I was feeling kind of ignored since I've been asking you if anything was wrong for weeks now and you never responded.

Are you going to try to be happy again? Please? Don't let that troll bullsh!t bring you down. This site needs you back to normal bud.
MultiPurposePoni - 1/14/2010, 8:17 AM
Someone mention Dogging??


LEEE@ il block your end with my love for ya :P
teabag - 1/14/2010, 8:19 AM
multi@ lol ill try to remember that for future reference

tea@ that's not right man, not right at all lol
ukboy28 - 1/14/2010, 8:22 AM
Demon: Thats what I was getting at also, glad to have allies.:)
He's much larger than his current comic run.

Don't be flattered by Darths proffesed love. We have pictures of him loving others. LMAO!!!!

One other thing I noticed about the article.

He was this 98-pound weakling, he was this wimp, and he's transformed instantly into this Adonis.

"Adonis", not super, not perfect human specimen, but "Adonis." That means whoever they get can't be just "ripped" but has to have some actual size to him.

That eliminates 99% of the actors we have suggested for the role.
Hawksblueyes - 1/14/2010, 8:23 AM
ukboy@ Sorry bud...no baby up the bum bum tho lol
teabag - 1/14/2010, 8:26 AM
tea@ baby up the bum bum hahahaha i shouldn't of said anything at all lmfao :0
ukboy28 - 1/14/2010, 8:29 AM
TheDemonHunter- I totally understand what you're saying but it was a really long time ago that those comics were sold by millions to kids AND grown ups. The people that were part of that era aren't a big part of today's average movie going audience. Today's audience is mostly made of they're children who are more open minded to change and very few of them follow comics in general. They mostly know the cartoons and completely understand when changes must be made to fit in our realistic era for the big screen.
Shaman - 1/14/2010, 8:38 AM
lol @ Hawksblueyes: I agree, but don't try to tell this bunch that.

Every time I say that about Thor, Cap or anybody else I get slammed with this "size doesn't matter" rhetoric
SixSixteen - 1/14/2010, 8:38 AM
ukboy@ Thats what my missis say's lol

I think the adonis thing is a general term for perfection so i doubt we will have a wrestler :P
teabag - 1/14/2010, 8:44 AM
Cool to finally see some news about the Cap movie. Yeah, some of the stuff Joe said might make one take pause, but since this is Marvel Studios doing this and not Sony or Fox, I'm not going to worry just yet. I'll agree with Multi's assertation of it.
Avengersrule - 1/14/2010, 8:44 AM
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