SPOILER: Is This Why 'Luke' Is In Exile In STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS?

SPOILER: Is This Why 'Luke' Is In Exile In STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS?

We know Luke (Mark Hamill) has been out of the picture for some time leading up to the events of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, but what drove him into (seemingly) self-imposed exile? Well, it might have something to do with how the Jedi are now perceived in the galaxy...

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By MarkCassidy - Nov 11, 2015 06:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: EW

Because Luke has been absent from pretty much all Star Wars: The Force Awakens promotion so far, fans have begun to let their imaginations run riot with some pretty wild speculations - but the theory that the son of Skywalker will now be a villain may not be too far from the mark... from a certain point of view.

According to EW, the First Order Stormtroopers are recruited as children, and fed a bunch of propaganda about the war that raged between the Empire and the Rebellion - but of course the Imperial Forces are portrayed as the good guys in those stories. Apparently having been raised as a Stormtrooper, Finn has been taught that Luke Skywalker was "a villain who destroyed the benevolent Empire."

It seems not only have the Jedi passed into legend, but the general perception around the galaxy could well be that they weren't a terribly nice bunch. Taking that into account, wouldn't it make sense that Luke would want to take himself out of the picture?

Just a theory, but all will be revealed in just over a month when Star Wars: The Force Awakens hits theaters on December 18.
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GhostDog
GhostDog - 11/11/2015, 6:01 PM
Interesting...
MrCummings
MrCummings - 11/11/2015, 6:01 PM
Was almost first. Neat idea.
RuccusRob
RuccusRob - 11/11/2015, 6:05 PM
I think the article actually says Rey DOESN'T know about Luke.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 11/11/2015, 6:12 PM
Can we get a link to the article? That link for the source seems to be broken.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 11/11/2015, 6:13 PM
@SauronsBANE

How do you link an article in a magazine?
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 11/11/2015, 6:14 PM
Egging on a Power User usually doesn't end well around these parts.




....please do us all a favor and keep egging him on.
Superman8
Superman8 - 11/11/2015, 6:14 PM
Every time I watch SW I dislike the Jedi more and more. They can be an arrogant, close minded bunch. I've always gravitated more towards Anakin's cause, maybe less so once he was twisted by the Emperor, but overall, I've always been Team Anakin over Team Jedi.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 11/11/2015, 6:15 PM
@LEVITIKUZ
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 11/11/2015, 6:16 PM
RuccusRob, right you are.. misread that.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 11/11/2015, 6:17 PM
@SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 11/11/2015, 6:21 PM
Ironically, the Prequels kind of portrayed the Jedis as narcissistic, stuck-up assholes who were far too rigid and far too stubborn to really root for at all. What's the fun or interest in seeing a fundamentalist, religious cult established and then being told they're the good guys? Retroactively turning them into a sort of warrior monk society didn't do them any favors.
NightBoyWonder
NightBoyWonder - 11/11/2015, 6:22 PM
@Superman8

the prequels kind of destroyed the respect i had for the Jedi
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 11/11/2015, 6:23 PM
SauronsBANE, another reason the prequels failed. The only one I liked was Obi Wan and even he was annoying in The Phantom Plot. I mean, how do you make Samuel L. Jackson as a Jedi bland? Lucas managed it.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 11/11/2015, 6:26 PM
@SauronsBANE

Ironically, the Prequels kind of portrayed the Jedis as narcissistic, stuck-up assholes who were far too rigid and far too stubborn to really root for at all. What's the fun or interest in seeing a fundamentalist, religious cult established and then being told they're the good guys? Retroactively turning them into a sort of warrior monk society didn't do them any favors.

Well there's a very simple answer to this. Forget the prequels happened.

Except for III. III was ok. Only prequel where shit actually happen. Too much shit happened in the film no doubt but shit went down.

[frick] I and especially II.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 11/11/2015, 6:27 PM
Only good things about the Prequels.

Ewan's Obi-Wan
Christopher Lee's Dooku
Episode I's final fight with Maul, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon
Clone Wars animated series
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 11/11/2015, 6:31 PM
@RorMachine Yup. To his credit, Lucas had so many awesome ideas and general concepts in the originals...but he never needed to fill in all the gaps in those movies. The sense of history and mystery about all that (the Clone War, the ancient Jedi Order, Anakin himself, etc) was more than enough, and it actually enhanced the world-building.

Then when Lucas decided to go the prequel route and actually fill in all those missing pieces in excruciating detail, none of it made sense anymore. In A New Hope, old Ben Kenobi describes the Jedi Order as something ancient that's long been forgotten...except now the Prequels come along, and it's been barely a few decades since it all fell apart. All those retroactive inconsistencies between the two trilogies really suck.
Superman8
Superman8 - 11/11/2015, 6:32 PM
Best way to forget the prequels, or the flaws of the prequels as I am one who doesn't totally hate them, is make a pre Ep IV Vader movie to reestablish Anakin's motives going into the Empire. Show his changed opinion on the Jedi, and fully explain his plan with the Empire. Then you can forget the Prophecy stuff and Padme stuff if you wish.
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 11/11/2015, 6:32 PM
"Forget the prequels." Words to live by.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 11/11/2015, 6:33 PM
@LEVITIKUZ Heh, the bigger question is whether the new trilogy will forget that the prequels happened too.

I used to think Revenge of the Sith managed to redeem the prequels a bit...but while it at least functions as a movie (which is more than you can say for the previous two haha), it's still an awful let-down when you consider the material it covers. It's also unforgivably boring. How Lucas managed to do that (again, considering the material it covers), I have no idea.
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon
PsychoticSpaceRaccoon - 11/11/2015, 6:34 PM
The only prequel I'm interested in is Rogue One.

The Han origin story sounds bloody awful.
continuezero
continuezero - 11/11/2015, 6:36 PM
Has anyone considered that since there is a strong possibility that there is at least one offspring Skywalker and with Luke taking a kind of Obi Wan role that maybe he's in hiding protecting and watching over this Skywalker? Like Obi Wan was in hiding watching over Luke.
CombatWombat
CombatWombat - 11/11/2015, 6:39 PM
Sometimes I really wish I could hop over to some alternate universe to see how some of these things could've panned out differently. Like, what if David Lynch had directed Return of the Jedi? What if the prequels were actually good?

These are the things keep you up at night.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 11/11/2015, 6:45 PM
@SauronsBANE

I don't think III was boring. Haven't seen it in a while but from what I remember I mean I don't remember being bored with it.

I do think Lucas [frick]ed up a little by having Obi-Wan and Anakin go in separate directions for the second act just like how he had in Episode II.

I mean there's so much in the film where I can't remember being bored. Maybe at some of the "I'm not the jedi I should be" stuff.
Superman8
Superman8 - 11/11/2015, 6:47 PM
Not that I think the prequels are great, but sometimes I'd like to hear people's legitimate gripes about them instead of just seemingly bandwagon saying they suck. IMO they do explain some things that did need explaining. Maybe in the 20+ years since the originals we had explained those things differently in our own minds, but ultimately the whole SW is Lucas's ideas. Who are we to say they're wrong? Whether he always had the plan to do prequels, or made them up after the fact, they're his ideas. His way of explaining evens in movies HE made. Revenge of the Sith is great. Phantom is good. Clones is the only one I really can't stand. And that's mostly bc it was just a poorly made movie, not so much decisions made in it. I agree people are free to like and dislike different parts of a long story, but when people say certain parts or just wrong, I don't get it. They're his ideas. It's his story. It is what it is.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 11/11/2015, 6:48 PM
The things you guys dislike about the Jedi from the prequels, is intended to make you feel that way. They were diplomats when they were supposed to be protectors. They worked for a corrupt goverment. I think what the prequels did wrong, was so quickly turn Anakin evil. That was too much. But in those films, they would have been better if they had written it, so you actually rooted for the Sith. Until the last few minutes. Then they should have shown you how evil Palpatine was, and allow you to feel betrayed.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 11/11/2015, 6:50 PM
@FrozenJoy

I do! :D
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 11/11/2015, 6:52 PM
@LEVITIKUZ Re-watch it. In between all the action, things slow down A LOT. Which isn't necessarily bad, since that would've meant it could establish its themes more and set the mood and all that...but it doesn't do ANY of that. Practically every dialogue scene is just stilted, poorly written, and completely uninteresting, not to mention the lack of momentum or the awful technical stuff (the uninspired way conversations are filmed could put an entire audience to sleep).

Lucas just couldn't get out of his own way enough times to make Revenge of the Sith any good.
JohnnyCloud
JohnnyCloud - 11/11/2015, 6:53 PM
Usually history is written by the winners so if this is true I hope they have a good explanation for it.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 11/11/2015, 6:53 PM
@Superman8

Here's why Episode I IMO sucked.

No main character. Who's the main character of Episode I? I mean Luke was obviously the main character of IV. In I nobody is the main character.

Second, so much talking and exposition. I mean Episode IV began with action. Galaxy is at civil war. Episode I was very little action. Outside of Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan on the Trade ship, Qui-Gon vs Maul, and the third act, there's very little action. There's just people standing around and talking and not doing stuff.

Third, all this political bullshit on Coruscant. Did anyone really give a [frick] about that? I mean again people standing and sitting around talking about what to do.

I and II are terrible films.
BlackStar25
BlackStar25 - 11/11/2015, 6:54 PM
@FrozenJoy

Eh...More than OG for me... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MrFridayNights
MrFridayNights - 11/11/2015, 6:56 PM
I love Revenge of the Sith tecnically it is better than Return of the Jedi since it has 80% on RT.
MrFridayNights
MrFridayNights - 11/11/2015, 6:59 PM
Maybe I love Revenge of the Sith too much since it was the first Star Wars movie that I watched at the movie theater obviously I watched the others before Revenge of the Sith but on DVD.
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