Kevin Feige Announces "Avengers" Line Up

After the "Iron Man 2" footage, io9 got a few moments with Marvel Producer Kevin Feige, who told them who's in the movie version of Marvel's superteam, the Avengers..

Io9__Do you know which heroes we are going to see in "The Avengers?" How close are you to discovering who the core characters are?

Feige__I think we know. I think it's going to be Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and Nick Fury. I think it's safe to assume that there will be some members of the Hulk universe in the film as well. In terms of the additional I think Black Widow, sure. The SHIELD organization for sure. What's exciting, for me, about The Avengers movie is seeing those four characters interact with each other. I think anywhere from the first issues of The Avengers to Civil War the dynamic between Steve Rogers and Tony Stark is just awesome, it's fascinating. It brings out sides in others that won't be brought out in the other franchises. Going forward with the mix is a whole other thing, I think it will be cool. So to pile on another 15 or 10, frankly more than four would be too many.

Is the Hulk in it?

Zak Penn is outlining it as we speak, so we'll see.

Are you going to test potential Captain America people against Robert knowing they'll have work together at some point?

We've already been doing a little bit of that, to an extent. We're certainly casting all of the actors knowing that they need to carry, whether they are the good guy or the bad guy or a small part, not only their own franchise but playing an important part in the Avengers franchise. We are definitely keeping that in mind as we are casting.

Has Chris Hemsworth [Thor] said that he would meet with Robert?

Oh yes, that was the first meeting of Thor and Tony Stark, it was pretty cool.

So, no Wasp or Hank Pym by the sounds of it. Unless Feige is keeping a few secrets, but it doesn't seem likely.

Rorschach01
7/26/2009
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142 Comments

	I want to see the "same" hulk as in the hulk 2009. I think phm/wasp came later on. I really hope all the actors culminate for the avengers. Nothing worse than no continuity marcolanni - 7/26/2009, 9:15 AM
	pym and wasp were in the originsl lineup. i am kinda pissed they wont be involved. but in avengers 2 they gotta introduce pym b/c ultron could be the villian and hawkeye as well b/c he is a fan favorite. hopefully they wont go and bring in wasp ince pym will deffinetly be in the sequel at least. i say instead of her throw in SHE-HULK, MS MARVEL OR TIGRA THEY ARE ALL FEM FATALES I JUST NEVER EVER LIKED WASP AVENGERS 2 ROSTER- IRON MAN CAP THOR HANK PYM (ANT-MAN FIRST, THEN IN 2 HE CAN BE GIANT MAN + 3 HE COULD BE YELLOW JACKET) HAWKEYE SHE-HULK MS. MARVEL WASP (PYM COULD KILL HER BY ACCIDENT BUT BY BEING HIS WOMAN BEATING SELF) NEMESIS- ULTRON (THIS WAY VISION COULD BE BROUGHT IN FOR AVENGERS 3) AVENGERS 3 NEMISIS- KANG CAP THOR IRON MAN HAWKEYE YELLOW JACKET VISION SHE-HULK MS.MARVEL TIGRA dellamorte1872 - 7/26/2009, 9:24 AM
	THIRD! Will Ant Man be in it? I hope so... That would be nice. NubaX - 7/26/2009, 9:28 AM
	you dont need both antman and wasp, two people that get real small are hardly interesting. and even if antman can get real big you already have the hulk and thor as the muscle. to me the scarlet witch would be a better fit for a female roll. and GWAR RULES!!! andyoung2002 - 7/26/2009, 9:32 AM
	SCARLET WITCH AND QUICKSILVER ARE OWNED BY THE X-MEN STUDIO! dellamorte1872 - 7/26/2009, 9:36 AM
	Wasp and Ant-Man HAVE to be in it. This has killed all hope I had for this movie THEHAWK - 7/26/2009, 9:42 AM
	I think if done right Wonder Man could prove a good story to the team :) teabag - 7/26/2009, 9:42 AM
	wow, this is interesting news but im gutted! dont get me wrong, this movie will be awesome with just Cap, Iron Man and Thor but it would have been even better with Giant Man (instead of Ant Man) and Wasp! just the addition of those 2 would have made this movie EVEN better - just look at the original line up in The Ultimates! Giant Man and Wasp made for some even better scenes especially in the battle vs The Hulk in NY! No Hawkeye is also pretty disappointing. As for 'Hulk characters' - i can see that being a character like The Leader (which i dont want for The Avengers!) and hopefully not The Abomination (already seen that in The Incredible Hulk) I guess this is what you get when you have the writer of the FF and Elektra movies writing the script for The Avengers! :( joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 9:45 AM
	Four people are going to comprise a superhero team? That's not even enough to field a basketball team. I guesse fantastic four has some competition. superdog - 7/26/2009, 9:47 AM
	No joshw24 These is what you get when you want something as big as the Averngers on the sliver screen don't blame the writers blame the people who want to see the Averngers on the sliver screen Supermike - 7/26/2009, 9:50 AM
	I blame Assholes like supermike teabag - 7/26/2009, 9:55 AM
	SUPERMIKE @ Your an A$$Hole!!! ; D Runnnnn its Supermike!!!! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 9:57 AM
	hawkeye is deffinetly a sequel character dellamorte1872 - 7/26/2009, 10:03 AM
	LEEE lol I dont think its that bad we have no Ant man/Giant Man /Wasp whatever...hell cap wasnt in the first issue teabag - 7/26/2009, 10:06 AM
	Captain Americs, Black Marvel, Miss America, Whizzer, Destroyer and Thunderer.. Haha!! Imran - 7/26/2009, 10:12 AM
	Pym and Wasp would be great but.. Come on people.. Use your logic, the full Avengers may be great for us.. But for those who don't read/follow the comic book universe?? Had a fair few asking me who The Blob is and why he wasn't in X-Men 1, 2 or 3?? lol At the end of the day.. Studios are trying to reach the widest market possible.. Making more money.. Imran - 7/26/2009, 10:14 AM
	HANK PYM & THE WASP will be in it!!! Geez you lot will believe anything! Give it time for more AVENGERS NEWS! Trust me! ; D ORIGINALS first! ; ) LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 10:14 AM
	CAP should join a QUARTER in! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 10:16 AM
	TEA @ Heh heh LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 10:18 AM
	Ahhh...shut up Supermike!! We all know that you would prefer a cartoon version animated in the style of Spongebob SquarePants!! Asshole! dellamorte1872: yeah, Hawkeye might have been a better sequel character but Giant Man and The Wasp? They're two of the founding Avengers!!! THIS is what you get when you hire the guy who [frick]ed up the FF's origins beyond recognition! What is wrong with Marvel?! They make a brilliant Iron Man movie, a decent Hulk fim then hire the guy who's every film has been hated by critics and fans alike to write The Avengers!?! Ive lost all faith in this film. Might as well just accept its gonna suck... :( joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 10:19 AM
	Giant man/Ant Man is a stretch for a movie..even more so than Thor i think. Plus, aside from his Ultimate incarnation i was never a fan of Pym anyway, or Wasp for that matter. No big loss for me. Sure it would have been nice for some continuity with the comics but whatever. I do think one more member would be good though..Black Widow will prob be involved in some way, but Hawkeye would be nice too. Rorschach01 - 7/26/2009, 10:19 AM
	Let's hope that Branagh gets pissed off at the way the son of Odin, Warrior-Prince of Asgard is treated in The Avengers film and then sorts this shit out! lol Imran - 7/26/2009, 10:20 AM
	Ror: Ant Man would be a hard sell for many non comic book fans but Giant Man wouldnt in my opinion (especially if they explained how he becomes Giant Man as they did in The Ultimates) This is how this news combined with knowing that Penn will [frick] this movie up makes me feel... joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 10:26 AM
	Supermike@ your an asshole!!!!!! They need more than four. On this there can be no debate! superdog - 7/26/2009, 10:26 AM
	Smoke and Mirrors lol teabag - 7/26/2009, 10:27 AM
	I reckon theres a HAWKEYE/CLINT cameo atleast! An HANK & JAN will be in it! ; ) Smoke 'n' Mirrors is right!!! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 10:28 AM
	I think the Hulk will be in the Avengers movie. They will probaly just rehash the deleted scene from the Hulk movie where Banner goes up onto the ice shelf to kill himself and we see Captain America in the ice. They do have to get the Cap out of the ice somehow! I wouldn't be suprised if that was the original intention of that scene anyway, to just be the opening to the Avengers movie. YogiDonnie - 7/26/2009, 10:29 AM
	Superdog @ More AVENGERS news will come, of course its more than four! ; ) YOGI @ Yeah HULK will be in it lol. No way he wont be!!! STUDIOS do this all the time.... They will never give you all the full news!!! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 10:31 AM
	you better be right LEE or im gonna murder Zak Penn, lol! joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 10:38 AM
	I have received an exclusive cast shot of everyone posing for there roles in "The Avengers Movie"...it will be directed by R.Reynolds and produced by R.Reynolds also.. RedSkullGeezer - 7/26/2009, 10:40 AM
	Lee77@ you better be right Or I'm gonna let Josh muder zack Penn. superdog - 7/26/2009, 10:46 AM
	We'll all MURDER him!!! Ooops we shouldn't be writing this down lol! RedSkull Very nice man!!! An funny! Heh heh!!! Can you do that cover without the HULK n THOR reynold faces lol! Coz it looks friggin' sweet man! How the hell u do that?? ; ) LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 10:49 AM
	Ha, love it RedSkull...but how we he do Nick Fury? Undergo a controversial skin pigmentation procedure, or will RDJ replace Sam Jackson? Perrigren - 7/26/2009, 10:52 AM
	RedSkull LMAO...but it wont happen if Burton gets hold of the project... :) teabag - 7/26/2009, 11:07 AM
	Rdj will be the dude playing a dude disguised as another dude superdog - 7/26/2009, 11:08 AM
	Well I hate to say it but Told you so Supermike - 7/26/2009, 11:09 AM
	Teabag@ you forgot Helena bohnam Carter as black widow/wasp/she-hulk :) superdog - 7/26/2009, 11:09 AM
	Supermike your an asshole! superdog - 7/26/2009, 11:10 AM
	Dolph Lundgren should have been Captain America 15 years ago KillerOfSaints - 7/26/2009, 11:10 AM
	WELL, AT LEAST IT WASNT JENSEN ACKLES GUNSMITH - 7/26/2009, 11:10 AM
	Supermike your an asshole...and you told us what? cus i can never understand a thing you say!! KillerOfSaints@ you must be joking right?...he can barely string a sentance together..true he does it better than supermike but no way :) teabag - 7/26/2009, 11:17 AM
	Well i hate to say it,,,, nah i don't really!!! ; D SUPERMIKE YOUR A A$$HOLE!!! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 11:26 AM
	HAHAHA RedskullGeezer...that's the bomb! I think with Ryan Reynolds in Wolverine, Green Lantern, Deadpool, we might as well keep him going, no? Why not team up with Johnny Depp and make it a Brian Singer movie, too? That WOULD be a bomb...hahaha WEAPON911 - 7/26/2009, 11:30 AM
	starting off with just 4 or 5 heroes is good for the first film then maybe add a couple more in the second after they get their own origin movie. Osiris - 7/26/2009, 11:45 AM
	tell you what Supermike, when I come to the US to kill Zak Penn Ill find you and take you out at the same time, huh? LEE: you're right, we probably shouldnt be writing this down, hehe! Oh and i forgot to say...Supermike you're an ASSHOLE!!! joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 12:00 PM
	How.....underwhelming. The Avengers are supposed to be a whole entire team of heroes. Not a little super squad of 3 heroes and a regular guy. InTylerWeTrust82 - 7/26/2009, 12:01 PM
	I'm sorry, but I don't like the sound of this...I always thought Fury was more of a peripheral character, The idea of him being one of the main players I can handle, but when it sounds like it will be JUST those four...I'd rather see Pym and Hulk...HULK CHARACTERS seems to exclude the "Hulk" himself. TheDurkinKnight - 7/26/2009, 12:06 PM
	Haha Depp and Reynolds.. Class lol Imran - 7/26/2009, 12:06 PM
	I don't think the absence of giant mant and wasp is a huge loss, I mean if we add them then a bulk of the movie has to be dedicated to them because they've never been introduced before while the others will have all had their own movies before avengers comes out. And I don't know about you guys, but I don't care to see the bulk of the avengers movie sold to two semi-lame characters. I want to see an epic lets save the world action movie, not half an hour of who is hank pym and how are he and his wife going to help the the world's mightiest mortals defeat a villain we didn't have time to develop because we were busy with the super hero equivalant of the odd couple. thwhtGuardian - 7/26/2009, 12:18 PM
	Hey i have been reading comments on this site for about a year now, and this is my first time posting anything. all of thee avenger characters that are getting thrown out to be in the movie or to have a movie the one i never see get talked about that much is Black Panther. I think a Black Panther Movie would be awesome. and He would be great for Avengers: 2. rwcrom1 - 7/26/2009, 12:23 PM
	In Tales To Astonish, where Ant Man/Wasp got their start, Pym drank a potion to switch from normal height to ant size. Then he changed it to a capsule. Then he figured out how to grow to 12ft tall. At this point, he was BOTH Ant Man and Giant Man. This was before he joined the Avengers. Cap didn't join until issue 4, so his movie shouldn't be called "The First Avenger" because he's not... not unless they're referring to his WW2 activities with Bucky, Toro, and Namor. SuperSkrull - 7/26/2009, 12:40 PM
	IF there is an Avengers 2...Still not convinced yet that this is gonna carry water. It's got a lot of holes in it...I agree with TheDurkinKnight, no hulk is no avengers. And Giant Man and the Wasp are central characters. You might get away with this IF the big boys like RDJ and Ed Norton sign up, but not likely. We'll see. WEAPON911 - 7/26/2009, 12:47 PM
	rwcrom1 @ Welcome buddy! Yeah a BLACK PANTHER movie would be amazing and he should be in AVENGERS 2! An that's another point about the AVENGERS movies, to spin other Heroes solo outings too! ; ) But that's the point, if we're getting a ANT-MAN movie, then he will be in AVENGERS an THE WASP! Instant fan base, not having HANK in AVENGERS will only hurt the ANT-MAN movie, its obvious, no way HANK ain't in THE AVENGERS movie an other point, this isn't FOX or SONY even, its MARVEL STUDIOS! End of the day MARVEL makes the final desisions not PENN not no one but MARVEL and i cant see them doing AVENGERS without all the founding members!!! If we can have a guy that turns green and a GOD and a thawed out Superhero from WWII, we can have a ANT-MAN/GIANT-MAN lol! JOSH Yeah lol, heh heh. : D DURKIN @ Im will you there, FURY should be in the back ground, like hell he's a original AVENGER or even a AVENGER lol! SuperSkrull @ WEAPON911 @ Exactly!!! Well we all gotta wait and see if MARVEL Pi$$e$ on us FANS or not! Let's just see. LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 1:18 PM
	Ok, guys, i thought at this point everybody kind of got how this works. The movies don't always follow the comics!!! Shocking stuff i know. I bet if Hulk is in it he will go on a rampage as he does in The Ultimates, forcing Thor and the others to team up to bring him down..then, once he reverts back to Banner they will all have to team up to stop..The Invaders! Thats right, you heard it here first! Rorschach01 - 7/26/2009, 1:26 PM
	@ rwcrom - Yeah, just to get started post as many times as you can. So, you can get familiar with everybody..lol I agree with Ror, I'm not a huge fan of pym and wasp either! And not having the hulk is a huge mistake. Minotauro - 7/26/2009, 1:33 PM
	@Rorschach - I get how it works, I just wasn't sure that everybody knew that Pym was Ant Man and Giant Man at the same time. Size matters you know ;-) I wonder who they're going to have play Jarvis? Like they said in the recent Mighty Avengers, he's been the only constant in the team. I wonder if they'll pull the Avengers together the way Justice League looked in the animated Justice League Unlimited with lots of characters you know running around the base, but not participating? That would open up a lot of opportunities. SuperSkrull - 7/26/2009, 1:43 PM
	The fact if the matter is, too the casual moviegoer, a FULL avengers roster would be too much. Too many people to give a crap about, at least in a FIRST movie. Keep it small, keep it simple. An obese Membership is just as gross as an obese person. Remember that. BaronBubba - 7/26/2009, 1:49 PM
	THANK YOU ROR! Grand Theft America Storyline, for sure. And NO Chitauri, PLEASE. BaronBubba - 7/26/2009, 1:50 PM
	Anyone that want's to bend over and take it go a head, but any real fans will want the ORIGINAL AVENGERS in the movie, not a crappy lame version of AVENGERS! This is MARVEL STUDIOS! Not FOX!!! They will have HANK & WASP in it! ; ) Oh and if SCARLETT WITCH makes an appearance in IRON MAN, looks like i will be right there too! ; D They wouldn't not use HANK with a ANT-MAN movie coming up! Common sense ppl, common sense!!! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 1:54 PM
	Something that was said a while ago, back with the Wolverine Premier, was that these movies reach out to the largest possible audience, so the die-hard fans take a punch in the face everytime. No problem, no matter what happens, I intend to go see the thing..I even forced myself to watch Superman Returns...It sucked the wind out of his cape, but it WAS superman, after all, so I guess I'm a victim of hope. If it does suck (Avengers, that is) at least we'll always have Spiderman 1 and 2. WEAPON911 - 7/26/2009, 1:56 PM
	I like the idea of gradually building the team up over the course of a few movies.. starting with who they have done so far is a good start then add more as they make more origin movies. Osiris - 7/26/2009, 2:00 PM
	Leee again with the real fans crap! How about the realistic fans? Where do they fit in? If you cant accept that this movie wont be The Avengers comic, or the Ultimates comic, but a movie called the Avengers BASED upon (probably) both, then i give up. Also, there is no Ant man movie on the horizon, the Scott Pilgrim director passed, back into Limbo. Superskrull, that wasn't directed at you, just a general statement! Rorschach01 - 7/26/2009, 2:03 PM
	I ain't saying its got to be as near perfect as WATCHMEN to the comic but having the ORIGINAL AVENGERS is a must! Sorry for not wanting a sh!te stained version of half the team movie! My bad!!! End of the day having IRON MAN, CAP, THOR, ANT-MAN, WASP and HULK isn't much to ask and isn't a lot of AVENGERS!! Sorry for complaining, maybe i should hope for a second best team like some of you lot lol, oh im soooo happy FURYS a original AVENGER ... not! : D LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 2:10 PM
	Its starting to smell like X-MEN! ; D LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 2:13 PM
	Ladies and Gentleman I try not to offer my opinion very often but it seems like the characters mentioned are a good start for Marvel....I think if they get the box office they are hoping for than maybe some of the lesser known characters might play a bigger part in the next movie. Some of the story lines in the history of the Avengers goes back well over 30 years so in order for Marvel to make it contemporary they might have to change some the Avengers history or original members. I myself have trust in the decision making process so far...I just wonder if Ryan Reynolds will also play Jarvis in the movie? RedSkullGeezer - 7/26/2009, 2:16 PM
	Complain all you like, im just sick of hearing the "Not real fans" line. That is a lot of characters for one movie that all have to be fleshed out and given 3 dimensions..i would rather they focused on doing 3 or 4 right than 5 or six wrong. Pym and Wasp can always join later in different movies..or not! Im going to see it for what it is, if its a good movie it wont be because the meticulously stuck to the original team, it will be because its a good movie!..As was X Men regardless of the fanboy whinging. Rorschach01 - 7/26/2009, 2:19 PM
	I love how people are jumping to conclusions about who's not going to be in it. They haven't even written it for shit sake. Tobuttica - 7/26/2009, 2:20 PM
	But its true ROR ! ; D Why have a flat when you can have a MANSION! MANSION get it!!! TOBUTTICA @ Thats what im saying, HANK & WASP will be in it! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 2:23 PM
	It's all speculation at this point, so let's just wait and see who they announce. SuperSkrull - 7/26/2009, 2:30 PM
	@ leee they'll have ant man and wasp. it's only 2 characters they'll need to introduce. they can already by people doing research for shield when the rest of the team gets put together. easy as that. it should be done like the ultimates. it wouldn't be hard at all. CorndogBurglar - 7/26/2009, 2:30 PM
	and also, there is no jarvis in this universe of movies. does everyone forget that "jarvis" was iron man's computer in the first iron man movie?? CorndogBurglar - 7/26/2009, 2:31 PM
	that would kick ass if wolverine is in it what about spider man come on. iron fist!!!!!!!!!!!! gambitfreak - 7/26/2009, 2:32 PM
	Well Tobuttica , we are speculating on what Feige said..yknow, in the article like! Leee one mans mansion is another's flat and vice versa, you cant please everyone! From what we understand its gonna be Thor, Iron Man, Cap, Fury and Widow..plus im sure the Hulk will be in there in some capacity. I think that's enough. Rorschach01 - 7/26/2009, 2:33 PM
	@ gambitfreak those characters aren't owned by marvel studios, you won't see them in an avengers movie. plus they're not even avengers...new avengers, yes. but they suck CorndogBurglar - 7/26/2009, 2:33 PM
	Corn @ I know, that's what ive been saying! SuperSkrull @I agree, lets just wait an see if they bring up HANK & JAN in later AVENGER news! ; ) ROR @ I really don't think they'll use BLACK WIDOW as a original, but the again... Hopefully not though, an didn't SLJ say he was not in the action, like a background kinda character, damn i wish they just make his FURY movie so he can FRIG OFF lol! ; D Nice word-twisting heh heh. P.S. FURY will Never be and Never will be a original AVENGER, HELL he ain't even the Real FURY!!! ; ) LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 2:34 PM
	@ leee lol preach it! SLJ is definately not the real fury CorndogBurglar - 7/26/2009, 2:41 PM
	You guys are trippin really how interestin are antman and wasp gonna look to the general movie goer if they did them it would probably turn campy like xmen havin to many heroes or villians will ruin a movie(spiderman 3 for example) I just think that they're tryin to bring more fans to the avengers so they'll do the kick ass characters(thor,ironman, captain america,and of course sam jackson who's always badass) and then they'll introduce more characters as they get more fans SabretoothTiger - 7/26/2009, 2:43 PM
	CORN @ Praise the lord!!! Heh heh heh SABRE @ Its a SUPERHERO team movie??? Not Spider-man??? An if you like SLJ as FURY then that says it all lol! ; D LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 2:48 PM
	LEE: i agree with you 100%! Though Ror is right in the respect that this is only BASED on the comic books this movie should definitely have the original line up with Wasp and Ant Man/Giant Man! With them saying that this film will feature 'Hulk characters' I can just see this movie turning into a mess with The Avengers facing off against The Leader and some of those idiotic Gamma Dog things from Ang Lee's Hulk! They should stick as close as possible to the original origin of the team being manipulated by Loki into fighting The Hulk or even The Ultimates vs The Hulk in NY from The Ultimates!! I just hope that Marvel and potential director Jon Favreau will keep an eye on that idiot Zak Penn! SabertoothTiger: Giant Man and The Wasp are two very interesting characters! Besides - the team needs a clever guy like Pym and a strong female character like Wasp! The Ultimates introduced the both of them in a few pages - wouldnt be hard for the movie to do in 5/10mins!! joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 2:48 PM
	Zak Penn: joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 2:51 PM
	JOSH @ ; ) I never said i wanted a exact same origin story as AVENGERS #1 but yeah,, it has to be ORIGINAL AVENGERS! As for BLACK WIDOW she's in IRON MAN 2, let her join AVENGERS in AVENGERS 2 or something, though see would be a under cover (MMMM lol) Avenger not a GLORY one anyway! An i really want them to go up against HULK! If they don't the movie will be a let down, because its been building up that way. P.S. Damn i really hate them GAMMA-DOGS lol! ; D Um er,,,, nice photo heh heh LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 2:56 PM
	LEE: that actually is Penn in the photo...that douchebag is gonna [frick] up The Avengers - i just know it!! joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 2:59 PM
	They might as well call this movie "Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man Work Together" instead of the Avengers lol. I know I'm being negative but I have a right to be. If they want to call it the Avengers, they need at least these members: Iron Man, Cap., Thor, Hulk, Ant Man, and Wasp. I don't think that is very hard to pull off. Hawkeye isn't as necessary as these guys but he is very important too. They also could call it "Marvel Super Squad". InTylerWeTrust82 - 7/26/2009, 3:06 PM
	TYLER @ You do have a right to be!!! Without half of the originals we're settling for second best, an we have waited soooo long for this movie, we want it 1st class not 2nd class!!! I really don't think im wrong to say that if you really love AVENGERS you want it done right and not done half right! Marvel Super Squad lmao!!! JOSH @ Oh lol and lets hope not! ; ) P.s. a cameo of HAWKEYE or even CLINT in the first movie wouldn't be hard to pull off, though ya never know CLINT might make a cameo in IRON MAN 2! That would be a nice WEST COAST touch! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 3:12 PM
	lol, Leee thats what im saying, it doesn't HAVE to be anything! It is what it is! Whatever they decide to make it will be The Avengers movie..like it or lump it. Are you telling me you wont go see the movie if Pym and Wasp are not in it? Rorschach01 - 7/26/2009, 3:16 PM
	InTylerWeTrust82: you're exactly right! Tha Avengers arent a 3 man team with Nick Fury on the side!! THIS is The Avengers: joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 3:17 PM
	ROR @ Yes i would, but without HANK and JAN in it, it'll only be half the magic! An yes it will spoil it a lil, if not a lot! By the looks of it most want the ORIGINAL AVENGERS anyway, not a photo copy of 'em! Only one that should be liking that is supermikey. JOSH @ ; ) Anyway like i said, STUDIOS don't give you all the news in one lump! Im near 90 % Sure more news will come about HANK & JAN anyway, just a waiting game! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 3:20 PM
	Imagine taking out everyone in that picture except for Cap, Thor, and IM. Would it really fit? No. Or imagine a scene where Fury and Stark are talking about a mission in a conference high tech room or something and then Fury says, "Say hi to your new teammates" and then all that show up are Thor and Cap. Would THAT really fit? Absolutely not. Like there would be all this build up and music going on and then out walks two guys. Anticlimactic, much? Tony would be like "Um, okay. Are you sure there is no one else that can be on the team? Just us? Really?" InTylerWeTrust82 - 7/26/2009, 3:28 PM
	InTylerWeTrust82: couldnt have put it better! Cap, Iron Man and Thor are integral parts of The Avengers (and every Avengers comic book out at the moment doesnt feel the same without those 3) but to only just have them would be pathetic! is 3 even a team, lol!? joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 3:30 PM
	It's a squad as I've put it before. Hell, the Fantastic Four had a bigger team than that and they had trouble beating Julian McMahon. And a big cloud. InTylerWeTrust82 - 7/26/2009, 3:39 PM
	too many posts to read, but I get the gist of what you guys are on about. I don't think they will reveal ALL the info 2.5 years before the films release. Some things have to stay a surprise or why would we go see it. The way they dance around Hulk questions, I am almost positive the green guy will be there. Supermike, I decided I'm going to have my cousin, who is a computer programmer and quite an impressive hacker, find out your personal info which given some of the more heinous computer crimes he has committed with impunity, he'll have no trouble finding your real name and home address. Then, I am going to post our finding's on this site, so that all may know who you are and one of us will get the honor of beating you into a cold red paste. I pray you turn out to be within a 6 hour drive of me, cause I will certainly make that trip. TheMyth - 7/26/2009, 3:44 PM
	Like a lot of fellow comment- makers I too would have preferred a more classic line up. Giant Man and The Wasp should be in it. Maybe I am reading between the lines here but from the language I get the feeling that Feige wasn't quite sure of himself when he made these statements. Sure it's a safe bet to say that Hulk, Black Widow, IM, Thor etc will be in it. Two years from now and all those characters will have been in a movie. So of course they will be in the Avengers, but as far as who else will round out the team it may be that it hasn't been fully decided yet. So I for one will retain a glimmer of hope that Jan and Hank will be in it until I hear a more definitive statement. DarthMulder - 7/26/2009, 3:47 PM
	ATTENTION SHARON CARTER AND JARVIS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE CAST....NEW CAST PHOTO RedSkullGeezer - 7/26/2009, 3:48 PM
	In reality none of this matters. It's just a lead in to Spiderman 4, "The Sinister Six." They just want to see how many heroes and villains they can pack on the screen before we get sickened by the lack of plotline and character development. Why don't they just call it BLOB 3? By the time the heroes each say one line, we will be past the half-way mark......Just saying... WEAPON911 - 7/26/2009, 3:48 PM
	i dont think that anyone could say this team looks better than the other team pic above!! joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 3:48 PM
	Exactly @ MYTH!!! ; D LMFAO @ SKULL!!! Your right @ JOSH @ It don't! LEEE777 - 7/26/2009, 3:48 PM
	@josh...In a 2 hour movie i could! I mean im not saying i dont want to see Pym and Wasp and all the damn Avengers there have ever been but sometimes these things can be problematic on the big screen. Either way im gonna trust that these guys deliver a great movie..kinda have to don't we! Rorschach01 - 7/26/2009, 3:52 PM
	LEEE is with me, anyone else want on the 'hack-Supermikes-personal-info-to-find-out-where-he-lives-so-some-lucky-CBM-patron-can-beat-him-to-near-death' bandwagon? I'll be calling my cuz this evening. TheMyth - 7/26/2009, 3:53 PM
	TheMyth: that info about Supermike is something i definitely want to know!! id spend every penny i have to travel to the US to beat that asshole up!! Ror: i see your point but im just sure that theres a way they could introduce them both quickly and easily! and yeah, we do have to trust them but as ive said above, knowing that Zak Penn is writing it makes me wonder! :( joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 3:55 PM
	now THIS is what i call an Avengers movie!!! joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 4:05 PM
	Josh, your an Englishman aren't you? I have a couple English buddies on Xbox Live and the way they are, I believe you when you say that. I'm dead serious about this. Supermike, your days of good health are numbered dude. I live in Calvert City, KY and I will travel half the country to get to you TheMyth - 7/26/2009, 4:06 PM
	hahah, i have all that info theMyth! But hes not really worth it is he? Save the ass kickings for the real scum bags. Cool pic Josh, but would it really be so bad without the giant dildo and tiny tits in the back there? Rorschach01 - 7/26/2009, 4:09 PM
	Nice Pic Josh, but let's try to fit SOME knd of story in there, ok? They're thinking that they need to knock off a couple just to keep a story in line with something we'll pay to see, so why not knock off Pym and his wife.....they're the most reasonable sacrifices...You know as well as I do, Pym will play a bit part as a scientist (along with Banner) while his wife is eye candy for a bit shot somewhere in Avengers mansion. The real story will be the visuals and the explosions anyway, and Giant man can't explode. hahaha WEAPON911 - 7/26/2009, 4:19 PM
	TheMyth: yeah, im from the UK but even better - im Welsh lol! we're even tougher than the English, hehe! and im with you all the way bud! im pretty sick of Supermike as well. Ive had disagreements on here with people (mainly LEE about the whole Jensen Acklees/Jason Lewis for Cap thing, lol) but recently ive come to despise Supermike! Ror: actually, it wouldnt be all that bad looking at the line-up that way - however, remove War Machine and Hulk and things start looking a little bare! joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 4:20 PM
	ahhhhh i missed this place.... back up to yer old shinannigans the lot o' ya! Love It!!! I could give two s squirts if Ant man and the Wasp arent in it... i would rather see Bruce Banner as the main Brain in this movie anyways. Put Stark in his Bitch-AZZ place as far as i am concerned! shibazz - 7/26/2009, 4:37 PM
	new avatar, yay!!! joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 4:48 PM
	that would be awesome Josh but not gona happen, at least not yet. like the new avatar btw Osiris - 7/26/2009, 4:52 PM
	Ok, I do agree with you guys that there will be plenty more news about the Avengers in the next couple of years but that news better be ANT-MAN & WASP TO JOIN THE AVENGERS! They have been founding members of the Avengers in every version of the Avengers. From the Ultimates to the original Avengers in the 60s, they have been the original members. They better be in it and dont worry about Hulk. He will be in it in some shape or form because if he isnt in it, that scene at the end of the Incredible Hulk will make no sense whatsoever. And I just thought, would it be so bad if Wasp wasnt in it as her and Ant-Man basically have the same powers anyway. If Wasp isnt in it, the perfect plan would be to get Ant-Man in the Avengers, get anticipation going for the Ant-Man movie with his appearance in the Avengers and then introduce Wasp in the Ant-Man movie. Also, Im glad there wont be anyone else in the Avengers apart from Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk and hopefully, Ant-Man because then there will be a couple of sequels to introduce Hawkeye, Falcon, Black Panther, Vision and any other awesome Avengers. And also, we dont want the Avengers becoming X3 and Wolverine with too many characters and not enough time to focus on them. Thats another reason why a potential Civil War movie or big ensemble movie like that wouldnt work because no one would get enough character development. And also guys, leave supermike alone. He is what I like to call a troll, someone who says asshole things on purpose just to get an angry reaction out of people. And from what I have seen, it works everytime. Not that I am sticking up for him. I want to see him in an episode of Heroes getting cut up by Sylar. That would be awesome, supermike shuts up and Sylar gets the power of being an asshole which would be hilarious. But seriously guys stop saying your gonna kill him, its not his fault he is small in many places of the body, from brain to...other places. AHEM And now to get that horrible image out of my mind with an image of Scarlett in the Black Widow outfit! LOL dancingmonkey08 - 7/26/2009, 6:07 PM
	dancingmonkey08: sorry man, Supermike's time is up. ;) joshw24 - 7/26/2009, 6:27 PM
	Hulk MUST be in it! Ozymandias - 7/26/2009, 8:51 PM
	ok here is what i think, iron man was an amazing film as was the hulk. if thor and captin america dont meet the same standerds that those movies did they the movie wont be AS good. it would probly end up being like an x-men one. you want to make the movie hella good you got to get good actors and great story. you cant have a unknown play cap i say get brad pitt to be cap or matt damon. and for thor well i personaly think thor shouldnt have his own movie YET. because its definetly not going to be the same as iron man or hulk so people wont be as excited for avengers. my line up would be Iron man/tony stark: robert downy jr. war machine/jim rhodes: don cheedle nick fury: samule L. jackson thor: Chris Hemsworth captin america: brad pitt black widow: scarlet johanson hulk/ bruce banner: edward nortan betty ross: liv tylar and for the captin america movie i think that bucky should be played by josh harnet himynameiszach - 7/26/2009, 9:25 PM
	This is bull. No more than four Avengers. I don't like it one bit. Just when we thought they were getting their act together with these movies. Hopefully this is a smokescreen. hewilldefytheirgravity - 7/26/2009, 9:58 PM
	Ryan Reynolds for Captain America supermike kill yourself Kratos6 - 7/26/2009, 10:09 PM
	Told us so what, supermike? This is all conjecture at this point. Dont jump ahead when the slightest bit of news comes out and say 'I told you so' when nothing is concrete yet. Jackass. Leee- Awww come on, man! I said this before, people enjoy movies and comics on different levels, so there is no 'real fans.' That elitist attitude is bullshite! Different strokes for different blokes, know what I mean? Plus, honestly, I always hated both Antman and the Wasp so no love lost. Just means more screen time for the terrible trio of Thor, Cap, and Iron man. Shadowelfz - 7/26/2009, 10:15 PM
	I have to admit I've been disappointed twice thus far; Penn as director and no full Avengers lineup. Unless of course, they're keeping some things on the down-low. Supermike= ( o ) gtrman - 7/27/2009, 1:02 AM
	Penn is writing not directing. Or is he? Gunshot. InTylerWeTrust82 - 7/27/2009, 1:40 AM
	This is such absolute bullshit! I mean seriously, bull shit. Out of the four initially planned heroes to be in the Avengers movie, Only Iron Man and The Hulk have had movies, yet they're already shafting Hulk? When Thor and Cap don't even have films yet? Hell, they haven't even cast Captain America yet(Aaron Eckhart IMO) I'm perfectly fine with only having four heroes on the Avengers, too many would clutter a movie. And yeah, having Fury and Widow on the side helping out would be alright too, but completely ditching Hulk and replacing him completely with Fury? [frick] that. Seriously, they already had the Tony Stark cameo in the Hulk, and yeah, I know, the movie didn't do that well, that's just because he's not as popular of a character, T.I.H wasn't a psuedo-comedy film like Iron Man, and after Ang Lee's abomination, people were probably iffy on this one, but Marvel could at least show some [frick]ing follow through. Frankly, I think The Incredible Hulk was twice the film Iron Man was, and if Ed Norton isn't in that movie as Bruce Banner/The Hulk, I'm seriously contemplating not even seeing it. R31D - 7/27/2009, 2:37 AM
	JOSH @ HELL YEAH!!!! NOW THAT'S THE AVENGERS MAN!!! Nice pic dude!!! ; ) Ya don't mind me using that pic do ya sometime lol??? Though WAR MACHINE don't need to be in the first AVENGERS movie, would be cool but a bit out of place! Friggin cool poster though dude!!! Damn! ; ) LEEE777 - 7/27/2009, 3:00 AM
	InTylerWeTrust82: lol, i hope that gunshot was you shooting Zak Penn! and thankfully he is ONLY writing it and not directing it (which is still terrible news) LEE: use it anytime you want man! THAT is exactly what The Avengers should be!! joshw24 - 7/27/2009, 3:44 AM
	I say they should introduce Pymm and wasp in Avengers,Pymm is working on the finishing touches of his suit with the wasp assisting, Then have a spinoff with Ultron InSpace - 7/27/2009, 4:05 AM
	Nice Pic Josh...take away War Machine and your right that is the Avengers.....but i do agree with Ror that we need to spread out the members otherwise each character wont get enough screen time and we will end up with a botched movie ;) teabag - 7/27/2009, 5:41 AM
	it might not even be "ant man", it would probably be giantman. but pym and wasp will be in it, i just don't see how or why they wouldn't. also, its kinda silly to think that the hulk won't be what they fight at the end, especially with how close they've been sticking to the comics. the end of the hulk was the perfect ground work for this scenario. also a few months back wasn't there a story about the guy thats playing loki being asked to sign to play in other Marvel movies as loki?? that, to me, sounds like he will be controlling the hulk in the avengers, which is how it went down in the comics, when you take all this info and put it together, thats what i come up with CorndogBurglar - 7/27/2009, 7:12 AM
	LAME!! File this into the "movies you know are going to be crap without having to see them" file. No Giant-Man or Wasp? No Hawkeye? Come on! You need Wasp around because her powers make her a useful asset. You need Hawkeye around for some comic relief and because he has useful abilities. You need Pym around to set up Ultron as the villain in the second one. And it's NOT Avengers if they don't fight him by the second film. Cap, Iron Man, and Thor are all good core members of the team, but you need more of a mix of powers. The team should be six people. Fury should NOT be on the team. He can fight alongside them, but he's NOT a member of the team. That said, I could accept Black Widow being around, and while Hulk would give the team three superstrong guys (that mix of powers thing again), he WAS at least an original member so he might work. This may turn out okay, but this news worries me. The Avengers are my favorite team, and I want to see them done right if they're going to be done at all. comicb00kguy - 7/27/2009, 7:22 AM
	Love the Reynolds pic, RedSkull. Now, to jump on the train: Supermike, you are a smoldering, puffy brown eye. AxlKomix - 7/27/2009, 7:49 AM
	You can be sure that even if Giant/Ant-Man and Wasp are in the movie, the scientist Henry Pym will have a cameo somewhere... come on they gotta leave room for new characters to appear in the sequels. If they put everybody in the first one, then we're left with waiting for Tigra & Jack of Hearts to join in Avengers 2 lol CarlLucasLukeCage - 7/27/2009, 8:41 AM
	@ carlLucas if they put pym and wasp in this one, its not like there won't be anyone else for the sequel. hawkeye and a number of others could be introduced in a sequel CorndogBurglar - 7/27/2009, 9:26 AM
	marvel is starting pre-production on captain america in october 2009 and will most likely start filming in june 2010. charbelelnasr - 7/27/2009, 9:39 AM
	I don’t like either the Wasp or Ant-Man, so I'm actually glad they are not in the film. I know they are the originals, but that doesn't make them interesting. Verdugo - 7/27/2009, 10:52 AM
	OH NO! I'VE BEEN BRAINWASHED BY LEEE! We... Must... Have... Thor, Iron Man, Henry Pym, The Wasp, Hulk, Captain America, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Hercules, Black Panther, Vision, Black Knight, Black Widow, Swordsman, Beast, Mantis, Wonder Man, Ms. Marvel, Falcon, Tigra, She-Hulk, Captain Marvel, Starfox, Namor, Doctor Druid, Mockingbird, War Machine, Firebird, Moon Knight, Human Torch, Living Lightning, Arachne, Forgotten One, Mr Fantastic, Invisible Woman, Quasar, Sersi, Stingray, Crystal, Thunderstrike, Justice, Firestar, Triathlon, Silverclaw, Jack of Hearts, Ant-Man (Lang), Captain Britain... Must... Have... Pseudo... Members... Moondragon, Hellcat, Two-Gun Kid, Jocasta, Thing, Demolition Man, Sandman, Rage, Machineman, Darkhawk... And... Gotta... Have... Honorary... Avengers... Rick Jones, Whizzer, Marrina, Yellowjacket (DeMara), Swordsman, Magdalene, Deathcry, Moira Brandon, Masque... And... Guardians... Of... The... Galaxy... Who... Travel... To... 1978... Yondu, Martinex, Charlie-27, Nikki, Starhawk, Aleta Ogord, Vance Astro... And... Can't... Forget... Great Lakes Avengers... Too... Mr. Immortal, Dinah Soar, Big Bertha, Flatman, Doorman, Squirrel Girl, Monkey Joe, Grasshopper (I, II, IV), Gravity, Leatherboy... Modern... Members... Nice... As... Well... Luke Cage, Wolverine, Spider-Man, Sentry, Echo, Spider-Woman, Doctor Strange, Iron Fist, Ares, Amadeus Cho, Stature... And... Don't... Discredit... Norman's... Dark... Team... Iron Patriot, Venom, Moonstone, Bullseye, Dake, Noh-Varr... If these Avengers AREN'T in this film... IT WILL SUCK FOREVER! THUS SAYETH A TRUE FAN! BaronBubba - 7/27/2009, 11:10 AM
	@ baron come on man, lol. its not crazy to want wasp and giant man in it, they're very important parts of the avengers, AS important as Cap, considering they were founding members... CorndogBurglar - 7/27/2009, 12:25 PM
	I understand that, but to go back to what Ror said, the average movie goer turned fan, AKA the ones who see the movie, go to hot topic and buy the special licensed shirts, and talk about how they love the avengers even though they know next to nothing about them in reality, will not enjoy seeing a guy who grows and shrinks at will while being able to talk to ants, and his wife who shrinks and stings people. I'm not saying this to say the Pyms AREN'T important. It is just that the average moviegoer (who is the source of most of the money they make off of films, not YOU and I, mind you) will think they are stupid. Personally, I could care less if they are in or AREN'T in. The Pym's aren't my biggest faves. BaronBubba - 7/27/2009, 1:07 PM
	@ baron i hear ya, i don't really care for either of them as characters either, but i do think they should be in the movie, it only seems right. and as far as him talking to ants, i get that, i understand it would seem goofy, but he should just be giant man, no talking to ants lol CorndogBurglar - 7/27/2009, 3:02 PM
	i wouldnt even get worked up about it anymore they just gonna [frick] it all up and take ur money. they not doing it for the fans just there money and that sucks redhulkan3 - 7/27/2009, 3:15 PM
	im not saying i hate the idea of the movie but prove me wrong. i wanna see this movie but i dont want to be disapointed redhulkan3 - 7/27/2009, 3:18 PM
	Note to Feige: Do it right or don't bother!!! We're not looking for an Ultimates movie; we want an AVENGERS movie! Screw Nick Fury! By casting Samuel L. Jackson, you've already made a crucial mistake! I don't know why everyone feels the Hulk is so critical to the team; he's the catalyst that gets them to form; in the comic he's only a member for the first two issues and is THEN replaced by Cap! The 1978 version of the Avengers is, to me the most definitive and representative roster for this group! Keep in mind that we may want to continue with more solo films starring the big three, so establishing the secondary characters is important! Hank Pym and the Wasp NEED to be in the film to anchor it, otherwise it just becomes a gimmicky all - star grouping and loses its identity! Over three films, we need: Cap, IM, Thor, Wasp, Pym, Vision, Scarlet Witch, and Hawkeye! Dellamorte; I dont think Witch and QS are licensed to Fox - they're not X-Men characters! JonF - 7/27/2009, 5:50 PM
	Ant man and wasp don't fit into the movie, plane and simple. I mean which would you rather, a movie full of their development with a lame villain haphazardly thrown in, or well developed plot that mixes the growing relations between already established heroes with the development of an interesting and credible opponent You have to choose. You can't have both. This i a movie, not a comic there simply isn't time to develop fully two new heroes AND a villain in under three hours. Either giant man and wasp would be under developed and misused or the villain would make no sense. Which would you rather, a mediocre movie with all your favorite heroes, but with some of them misused and done poorly. Or a great movie only with out a few minor heroes? I think the choice is clear. Especially for you LEE, I mean outside of the ultimate universe name one instance where giant man and wasp REALLY contributed anything astonishing? They're flat characters. If they were to be in the movie they would be like their ultimate counterparts and we all know how you feel about the ultimates LEE. Nuff' said. thwhtGuardian - 7/27/2009, 6:47 PM
	Knight: How long does it take to establish Giant Man and the Wasp? Their backstory could be explained in 30 seconds each or less (remember, one of the basic tenets that Marvel was founded on was that you could quickly and easily explain the backstory of a major character), and then mesh them in with the other characters. And anyone who thinks Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne haven't contributed anything over the years obviously has not read very many issues of the REAL Avengers. I'll name one astonishing contribution Pym made: He created Ultron, who has emerged as a primary Avengers villain. comicb00kguy - 7/28/2009, 7:28 AM
	WHat do you mean Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch aren't licensed to the X franchise?!? Quicksilver was a prisoner in Wolverine!!! BaronBubba - 7/28/2009, 12:34 PM
	I concur that Sam Jackson is a bad choice for fury. I'm sure that everyone on earth will agree that Gary Sinise(Liutenant Dan From Forrest Gump) IS the perfect fit for 616 Nick Fury. R31D - 7/30/2009, 1:23 AM
	Wow... I'm pretty disapointed by this news. I know it's all rumors right now, and all this can change, but this makes me worried for what other kind of choices they are making. I see why many are complaining that too many characters would clutter the plot, but here's a simple solution. AXE NICK FURY. He should serve as a supporting role at most. Hank Pym is crucial if they EVER wish to use Ultron (badass indestructable, incredibly intelligent, killer robot) as a villain. And you can't have him without his wife. Their powers may not be popular, but they add to the chemistry of the team, and who really wants a 4-man sausage fest? Keep Black Widow, War Machine, and Fury on the sidelines. Add a cameo by Hawkeye and a reference to Pym working on some artificial intelligence called Ultron. And segue into Avengers 2. Introduce Quicksilver Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye to the team, and kick out Pym, causing him to create Ultron... yadayada BartonIsHawkeye88 - 8/2/2009, 3:01 AM
	yes, hawk88 is correct. avengers without ant and wasp. on the next f4 could be made without r.r and s.s there is plenty of room 4 supporting roles, but if this movie ends with the big battle = hulk vs abmo iron vs lash cap vs skull thor vs loki then it will be all for not. kind of ashamed we even need to go over this C4 - 8/23/2009, 12:10 AM
	NO GIANT MAN? NO WASP? BUUUULLLSHIT!!! THIS IS WHAT PISSES ME OFF THEY ALWAYS GOTTA [frick] WITH THE MYTHOLOGY. THEY WERE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF THE TEAM THATS JUST NOT COOL FEIGE N PENN BETTER FIGURE SOMETHIN OUT QUICK 10THTIGER - 8/24/2009, 10:57 PM

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