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Jon Favreau Definitely WON'T Be Directing The Avengers

In fairness, it was always a long shot. The man behind Iron Man 2 has confirmed he won't be in the director's chair for The Avengers movie while talking to MTV, and we will not be seeing Ed Norton go green in Iron Man 2 either...


He also confirms that we wont be seeing Ed Norton as The Hulk in "Iron Man 2:"

"We want to reinforce a lot of the stuff we started to tip off," Favreau told MTV News. "'The Avengers' is a much larger concern for Marvel and Kevin Feige, who runs Marvel. They're going to be doing 'Thor' and 'Captain America,' and the way we might start to tease those things in this movie, some of it is stuff that we've discussed [and] some of the stuff you do last-minute as you figure out how that stuff is coming together."

"It's an evolving, amorphous thing," he explained. "If we decide and commit too early, the secret always gets out."

Favreau then brought up the internet leak about the Sam Jackson cameo as Nick Fury at the end of Iron Man.

"As soon as we shot the Nick Fury thing—we had a closed set and nobody was supposed to know about it—a week later somehow it was all over the internet," said Favreau. "It's a little bit of a cat-and-mouse game."

He also flat out denies any connection between him and directing "The Avengers," he will be involved in other ways.

"They'll have to [find a different director], because I'm not going to be available," he explained. "It's something I'm the executive producer on, so I'll definitely have input and a say."

"It's going to be hard, because I was so involved in creating the world of Iron Man and Iron Man is very much a tech-based hero, and then with 'Avengers' you're going to be introducing some supernatural aspects because of Thor," he continued. "How you mix the two of those works very well in the comic books, but it's going to take a lot of thoughtfulness to make that all work and not blow the reality that we've created."

"That's why it's good that you have the guys from Marvel like Kevin Feige, who knows the books well and has been involved with the making of all the movies, and he'll be very involved with 'Thor' and 'Cap,'" said Favreau. "You need somebody who has the perspective of all the different franchises to bring them together. I have the myopic vision of just knowing and loving Iron Man."

Thanks to MTV for the info and the video
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115 Comments

Noooooooooo!!!

I dont care to much about FAV, but we gotta have [frick]ing HULK!!!!!!!!!!
LEEE777 - 10/14/2009, 11:26 AM
Then he better produce the hell out of it.
Mercenary - 10/14/2009, 11:26 AM
Well i for one feel as though I have been punched in the gut
DarthMulder - 10/14/2009, 11:27 AM
Oh i misread that, its for IRON MAN 2 lol!

Thats coz he's gotta go HULK in AVENGERS of course!!



Oh ignore the ANT-MAN one thats roles for PATRICK WILSON! ; D
LEEE777 - 10/14/2009, 11:28 AM
@ Ror,

you stole my story bro. LOL
Whispers68 - 10/14/2009, 11:28 AM
Did you write it?;)..ah no, sorry man, but it wasn't in news when i added it...

As far as this goes, i dont think its necessarily such a bad thing...
Rorschach01 - 10/14/2009, 11:33 AM
Bring in Joel Sh*tmacher. Epic win
MultiPurposePoni - 10/14/2009, 11:34 AM
It's really too bad because I think he would have done a stellar job at it.

Above all other directors he has this unique talent with reverently and intelligently translating comics to film.
DarthMulder - 10/14/2009, 11:35 AM
Ror

Dude, I'm playing...there's so many users on the site, we are bound to come across writing the same piece at the same time

But you're right, it may not be a bad thing. In my article i asked who we collectively or individually feel could bring the characters to life in a manner similar to Jon's...so who would you or anyone else choose as the main director?


Whispers68 - 10/14/2009, 11:36 AM
I love the honesty, that was pretty good!
Nice find Ror!
Spock - 10/14/2009, 11:36 AM
Lol @ Multi!

Yeah @ ROR, this ain't that bad a news, as long as HULK makes it in AVENGERS, thats all that matters lol.
LEEE777 - 10/14/2009, 11:37 AM
Man, this is a double blow of bad news!!! :(

Im not that bothered about Hulk not being in Iron Man 2 as a cameo of that importance would steal the spotlight from Iron Man a bit too much. As for Favreau not directing The Avengers, well its a pity because he seemed to be the best choice!!

I guess that leaves the question now of who would be the best choice to direct that movie!?!
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 11:38 AM
but hes the perfect director
tyko450 - 10/14/2009, 11:39 AM
@Darth: Well, he does with IM, anyway. Who knows? He might have fumbled the ball with some of the other heroes like Thor. But it certainly would have been interesting to find out...

And frankly, I'd just as soon that Feige stay away from future projects.
Velox - 10/14/2009, 11:40 AM
I hope that they don't have hulk as the villain in avengers. That would suck. Favreau would have been a good choice for Directing avengers, but who knows, maybe they'll get a director who would truly weave these characters together. It's too early to get anybody to direct when we don't even have Thor ( one of the greatest cbm's being worked on), and Captain America ( Has anything happened with production since Johnston got the job? ).
supermarioworldE - 10/14/2009, 11:40 AM
f**k!!!!
Die Jon Die,u ruined my day,u lazy,egoist n cocky coalsack.One movie and u r making decisions!!!!Zathura bombed remember,IM was lucky shot....

I'm angry,wish I was green to and I wud have brought ur house down.


bullsize - 10/14/2009, 11:40 AM
@ Mercenary.

He won't be producing it according to this, just EX Producing it. Which basically means he's contributing $$$ to it.

But I DO hope he's got a lot've input on Avengers because he made an awesome Iron Man movie!

Would've liked to see Hulk in IM2. Oh well, I'll just have to hope he's in Avengers! :)
Runefyst - 10/14/2009, 11:42 AM
This comes as no surprise. He has been kind of wishy washy when it comes to the subject of The Avengers movie all along.

I knew when he made that crack about how it "might not suck" I could just sense a certain diffidence about the whole thing.

But Rorschach01 I was wondering how did you know it was a long shot, sir?
DarthMulder - 10/14/2009, 11:42 AM
PETER JACKSON luvs IRON MAN!!

Perfect for AVENGERS!!!

Best choice there!
LEEE777 - 10/14/2009, 11:44 AM
@Darth: I actually knew this already also. I couldn't tell you where, but I read what was essentially the same statement from Fav's about two months ago when they announced his EP title on the film.
Velox - 10/14/2009, 11:45 AM
Hey RUNEFYST @ I've seen that pic of VENOM as your AVATAR before lol! Very cool picture!!
LEEE777 - 10/14/2009, 11:48 AM
At least he'll still be involved as a producer!
Bijous - 10/14/2009, 11:49 AM
God, Peter Jackson would be a terrible choice to direct The Avengers! After the guy got me (someone who hates stuff like Star Trek!) to actually enjoy this years Star Trek movie, Id say that J. J. Abrams might do a good job...whoever it is needs to know the characters well otherwise you'll end up with the crap team dynamic Singers X-Men movies had!!!


joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 11:50 AM
@ Darthmulder...Just because he was always very cagey about it. And i knew the studio would be dubious about allowing the man that has been behind one element of the team for so long to be trusted with allocating fair amounts of screen time and development to each of the other Avengers..obviously Fav feels the same way. Ideally, they need to get a [frick]ing genius to do a good job on this. Someone that has experience with ensemble movies as well as being capable of delivering the action and the drama. All of the directors of the previous movies(Fav, Brannagh, Johnson) should be very hands on and make sure there is continuity with the stories and characters from the other movies.

Whos the man for the job? I have no frakking idea! Snyder could do it..but hes not the right style...Lets see how Clash Of The Titans turns out, maybe Leterrier is our man.
Rorschach01 - 10/14/2009, 11:53 AM
Good find Ror...im not too gutted by the news....Fav is a great Director but i dont think the sun shines out of his ass ........lets see some new talent..no one would of beleived Fav could do a great job on Iron Man...im sure there is someone who could surpase our expectations :)
teabag - 10/14/2009, 11:55 AM
Thanks for the plug, Bijous!

Yeah, in fact, Favreau basically said that he wouldn't be involved as director as far back as Comic-Con, but he has always claimed to be involved as producer. I think it's essential that he has input, considering how closely connected he is to Iron Man.

I really am curious how they are going to go from science/tech with Iron Man and Captain America to "magic" with Thor.
Brent Sprecher - 10/14/2009, 11:56 AM
Very true Velox.

It's obvious that he fears dealing with magic stuff from the comics and I understand that.

But just look at the considerable grace with which he handled Iron Man's repulsors. Scientifically there is no rational basis for a weapon that fits inside a fully amrored and articulated exoskeletal glove that works for in flight attitude control when in the air but doubles as a ranged energy weapon on the ground. So what did he do? He just didn't bother to explain it. BRILLIANT.

Very very well done. You don't don't have to make a thing out of the ins and outs of how it's all supposed to work. You just find a non silly way to represent it visually and contextually and let her fly. No prob.

I think he could have done the same with Thor in Avengers if he wanted. Well anyway a lot can happen in two years. We could still get lucky on the director.

I am not worried about Avengers yet lol. There are a lot more pressing issues at this point. namely that would be Thor, Captain America, and Green Lantern
DarthMulder - 10/14/2009, 11:56 AM
Why is everyone so insistent on JFav directing Avengers like he's the only one that can do it justice? We haven't even seen the Thor and Cap movies. Favs is going to be one of three directors with their hands on an Avengers character.
MultiPurposePoni - 10/14/2009, 11:58 AM
@Brent: You're welcome! Can I have a job?
Bijous - 10/14/2009, 11:58 AM
Haha, thanks LEEE, Venom's one've my fave Marvel characters. It's a shame what Sam Raimi did to him. :(
Runefyst - 10/14/2009, 11:59 AM
@Whispers: I think Favreau could have been the right director. But it's good to read that they're very thoughtfull of bringing the Iron Man, Cap and Thor characters together in the Avengers movie. Fortunately guys like Kevin Feige have input on all of those movies.
And about Hulk... sure there gonna be some other cameo's in IM2.
DrStrange - 10/14/2009, 12:01 PM
@Darth: I agree with you that they don't need to fully explain everything in movies to make it believable. But, regarding your statement about IM's repulsors; the key word is "yet." We don't have the capability to create something like that yet. But, in the comics (and, I suppose in the film), Stark is a "futurist," someone capable of anticipating future trends in technology and making it real.

@Multi: I don't think anyone's insistent on him doing it, he's just the one anyone thinks about because of the success of Iron Man. You don't hear anyone mentioning Louis Leterrier, do you?

@Bijous: Nope.
Brent Sprecher - 10/14/2009, 12:02 PM
awesome article, BTW Rorschach! Good timing putting up something huge like this during a relative news slump. Well done.

And same here on the director. I have no idea. I was thinkng maybe laTerrier also, but who knows?
Really the sky's the limit at this point!


DarthMulder - 10/14/2009, 12:05 PM
Abrams has already shown that he can make a great ensemble movie so thats further proof he could handle The Avengers IMO!

Still, this movie will probably be the BIGGEST and most epic CBM ever! They need to find the right person or it'll fail! I mean, Zak Penn is writing it so its already not looking too good what with that hack being involved!!! :(
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 12:05 PM
@Brent: Some people are pretty adamant that if he doesn't direct Avengers, it will suck. My comment was directed at those feebs.

Forgive my use of 'Everyone' instead of 'Some of you'. I'm trying to comment and spray paint at the same time. Not everyone is as talented as Shaman ;)
MultiPurposePoni - 10/14/2009, 12:05 PM
@Poni: To those people that insist that no one can do it like Favreau, I would remind them that prior to Iron Man, nobody would have thought to hire the 'Swingers' and 'Elf' guy to direct a CBM. So I'm sure that there's someone else out there that's up for the job, we'll just be uneasy about it until we see it for ourselves.
Velox - 10/14/2009, 12:11 PM
well aint that just the icing on the cake!
KeepItReal - 10/14/2009, 12:12 PM
The only cameo I'm hoping to see is Hawkeye
StrangemannX09 - 10/14/2009, 12:12 PM
@multi

I think the reason many viewers see this as hugely disappointing is because of the direction he took with 'Iron-Man' so with the choice of directors who didn't bring their 'beloved' characters to life successfully, they feel someone else would do no justice to an array of characters on screen at one time.

I personally feel that isn't the case because 'The Incredible Hulk' was a good superhero flick, 'Hellboy' 1 and 2 were both adapted well,'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight' are other examples. Favreau didn't bring those characters to life so the job can be successful in the hands of someone else possessing the ability of giving the necessary time to each character on screen as they should be.
Whispers68 - 10/14/2009, 12:14 PM
I don't think we need to see the Hulk in IM2. I'd be happy with seeing Dr. Banner instead, if there was to be a cameo. They DO need cameos though for the future films. Hulk needs to be in Avengers...NOT IM2. It's just too much.
Bamf7 - 10/14/2009, 12:14 PM
At least we know that Raimi would never be able to handle directing The Avengers after the awful way he handled all those characters in Spider-Man 3!

I wonder why Favreau wont be available!?! Iron Man 3 maybe???
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 12:15 PM
StrangemannX09: Same here! Seeing as Hawkeye's origin strongly features Iron Man and Black Widow, 'Iron Man 2' seems like the perfect place to introduce the character!!
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 12:17 PM
let crazy ass quentin tarantino direct a superhero movie. that'd be interesting. maybe not good.. but interesting. chris nolan should direct more.
InFamouslyCool - 10/14/2009, 12:19 PM
All i'm saying is that with Favreau on board, it would have succeeded. Now... it's back to 50/50. Well, to be honest, just being made by Marvel themselves cranks it up to a 60/40 chance of success. But IMO, Leterrier wouldn't have the skills like Favreau does. We need someone like Favreau to pull off a no-brainer of sorts. To NATURALLY, EFFORTLESSLY and SUCCESSFULY bring these characters to life on the big screen like Favreau did for Ironman. I'm not saying that he didn't work hard to pull it off, i'm saying he made it look easy!!! I'm thinking that Marvel is waiting to see the finished product on Thor and Cap to really know who's worthy. Favreau might not want to be attached to two separate franchises since he surely wants to work on other projects in his carreer.
Shaman - 10/14/2009, 12:20 PM
@Josh...I doubt it. The guy does make other movies! He'll more than likely be working on some miserable rom- com of some sort.

Banner/Hulk was always envisioned as being in an Avengers movie..otherwise they wouldn't have had RDJ walk into a bar and tell Ross he was putting a team together at the end of Hulk now would they? Things change, we don't know if its still the case..but Norton said he would be happy to go back so lets hope they get their heads out of their asses and make it happen.

And thanks DArth, but you really should thank MTV for providing the news for me to find!
Rorschach01 - 10/14/2009, 12:21 PM
If they follow the story of Avengers as close to the comic as possible then it will be a success. Too bad Norton & Hulk will not be in IronMan2, but in actuality he doesn't need to cameo in it. Hulk will be in Avengers, no question about it, so not to worry. The story will very likely preceed Hulk as a villain (not the main villain), and later Avengers will look to Hulk as their mightiest weapon of destruction to stop the main villains which could end up being Loki, and perhaps Abomination and the Skrulls. Now tell me that story won't have non stop action!
Hulk2008 - 10/14/2009, 12:21 PM
Luffy are you a bot? just tell the truth. We won't be mad LOL
DarthMulder - 10/14/2009, 12:22 PM
@josh: Maybe he's committed to making another mediocre comedy with his buddy Peter Billingsly. The guys not infallible, and we should all remember that he made Zathura, not to mention some of the turkey's he's chosen for his acting gigs.
Velox - 10/14/2009, 12:23 PM
Perhaps a cameo of Dr. Donald Blake?
@josh: Raimi directing Avengers? Great! And Tobey Maguire as Steve Rodgers :D
DrStrange - 10/14/2009, 12:26 PM
Shaman: You're right about it being 60/40 but when you consider the fact that the writer of Elektra and Fantastic Four is going to be writing the script for The Avengers then it sort of takes it back to 50/50!

On a seperate note, after seeing this image I definitely think that this costume would work in Thor without them having to use the (ok) Ultimate version!

t600
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 12:26 PM
Avengers is in great hands, trust me. Marvel couldn't screw this one up if they had a how to book. There is too much talent involved between actors, writers, and producers. The fact that Marvel is doing this in house should calm everyone's nerves, it's not like Fox is involved.
ASSASSIN666 - 10/14/2009, 12:34 PM
I dont think it will matter who is directing avengers it will probably be a group of people making it and marvel wont let it suck.And as for cameos didnt he say if they are added early everyone will know about it?
thunderforce - 10/14/2009, 12:37 PM
@Assassin: I do trust Marvel, but let's be realistic. Aside from a bunch of animated stuff, they've released a whole TWO films, one of which wasn't all that good.
Velox - 10/14/2009, 12:39 PM
They forced venom upon raimi, he had sp3 already written then had to write venom into it.
SHHH - 10/14/2009, 12:41 PM
ROR/Velox: You guys might be right but the time scale would fit!

2008 - Iron Man
2010 - Iron Man 2
2012 - Iron Man 3?

And wasnt there a rumour that there would be another Iron Man film before The Avengers? After Captain America and Thor, a third IM movie would be a great oppurtunity to further set up The Avengers!!! :)
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 12:43 PM
That's too bad. He probably would have done a really good job. I'm sure they'll get someone great to direct it. Like Bret Ratner! Hahahaheheheh... Heh... >=|
BmanHall - 10/14/2009, 12:43 PM
This is disappointing but at least Favs will have some say in the movie.

I agree with the others that have called for a Hawkeye cameo. I just hope he makes an appearance in IronMan 3 but I truly hope he is in the Avengers movie.
ironknight27 - 10/14/2009, 12:45 PM
@Josh: I don't think so. Iron Man 3 isn't even listed on IMDB, and they're notorious for listing stuff before it's officially announced.

This is what they have listed for Marvel Studios:
# The Avengers (2012) ... Production Company
# Ant-Man (2012) ... Production Company
# Doctor Strange (2012) ... Production Company
# Nick Fury (2012) ... Production Company
# The First Avenger: Captain America (2011) ... Production Company
# Deadpool (2011) ... Production Company
# Deathlok (2011) ... Production Company
# Luke Cage (2011) ... Production Company
# X-Men Origins: Magneto (2011) ... Production Company
# Iron Man 2 (2010) (VG) ... Production Company

Deathlok and Luke Cage are news to me!
Velox - 10/14/2009, 12:49 PM
Damn, i hope we get the REAL NICK FURY in the NICK FURY movie lol!!! ; D

BRUCE WILLIS!!!

Heh heh heh.


LEEE777 - 10/14/2009, 12:55 PM
I'm just wondering if there's even a slim possibility that we might see Luke Cage in the Avengers.
Velox - 10/14/2009, 12:58 PM
Velox: I wouldnt go by what IMDB say especially as only 3 of those movies have been offially announced and they dont list Thor! I mean, I cant see there being a Nick Fury movie the same year as The Avengers! Cant anyone go on IMDB and alter the information!?
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 1:01 PM
@Josh - EXACTLY. IMDB is only good for looking up stuff that's already come out...not future stuff. You'll find that at CBM, haha.

@Lee - No way! Even though I prefer the original Nick Fury too, in the Marvel movie Universe they have created you have to keep Sam Jackson for continuity purposes!
Bamf7 - 10/14/2009, 1:10 PM
Thor's listed, but not under Marvel Studios for some reason. I doubt that means anything though.

But the Nick Fury movie IS one of the films that Jackson signed on for, I just don't know for sure when it's scheduled.
Velox - 10/14/2009, 1:11 PM
yeah Thor is definitely listed because I look at that damn page about ten times a week. lol
DarthMulder - 10/14/2009, 1:28 PM
Cinematical's 5 Avengers Director Picks

Neill Blomkamp
Alex Proyas
Pierre Morel
Paul Verhoeven
Matthew Vaughn




Brent Sprecher - 10/14/2009, 1:29 PM
At least hes still executive producer on The Avengers so he'll get some input in it.

I think the cameo is going to involve Captain America in some way
BatmanKnight - 10/14/2009, 1:31 PM
Morel, Proyas and Verhoeven would definitely not be good choices to direct The Avengers with average movies like 'War', 'Hollow Man' and 'Knowing' on their track records! I havent seen Blomkamp's 'District 9' yet so I cant judge him and Ill wait and see 'Kick-Ass' before I judge Vaughn!
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 1:36 PM
Paul Verheven?? Was that a [frick]ing Joke! What a hack. Vaughn maybe...Blomkamp made one masterpiece already but thats just one, very different movie, no experience. Dont know who Morel is. Proyas? Meh. How the hell are they a fan cast top 5? If any director was fair game, where are the Spielberg's? The Tarantino's? The Aronofskys?
Rorschach01 - 10/14/2009, 1:42 PM
Paul Verhoeven? Why? Because of basic Instict? lol

Blomkamp can obviously do Sci Fi, but who knows how he'd do

Mathew Vaughn I could almost see even though I was bored by Stardust.

How did they even get these names? Is this just directors the know aren't busy that year? Oh. it's clickable.

@BatmaanKNight: As cool as that would be, I don't think so. I think that the cameo will be THOR! I think that because Thor starts shooting in February, and that means there will be footage of Hemsworth in costume ready to go in time to be used in the theatrical release of IM2.
DarthMulder - 10/14/2009, 1:50 PM
this was in the news section loooooooong before I saw this one Ror.

I'd say I'm surprised - but people get cyber touched all the time on this site.
Keven - 10/14/2009, 1:50 PM
"All i'm saying is that with Favreau on board, it would have succeeded. Now... it's back to 50/50."


Very well stated. Agree 100%
MarkV - 10/14/2009, 1:58 PM
MarkV@ Raimi made imo the best CBM with Spidey 2..then we got 3 so im not gonna say Fav is infalable or over praise him...i like what he's done and all i can do is hope he improves..stating it would succeed with him but not without him seems rather narrow minded :P
teabag - 10/14/2009, 2:05 PM
With Raimi on board the movie would have a damn fine heart and soul to it, and the action would be top notch too.

"Nooo, Peter cried in his movies, it was too soppy whaaaaa"

Yeah, how about grow up? People have emotions, it cant be all wise cracking and web swinging, its called DRAMA. Movies tend to benefit from some of it.

Kev, I never said you didn't see it, I said I didn't. It wasn't in the admin section when i made the article, whether it was after or not is irrelevant isn't it?
Rorschach01 - 10/14/2009, 2:14 PM
Ror@ thats how i see it :)
teabag - 10/14/2009, 2:28 PM
Neil Blomkamp is my choice (tied with Peter Jackson) for a Superman reboot.

The article itself is 2 downers though. I think we all knew Favs wouldn't be directing Avengers, but it is sad to get it confirmed from the man himself. I think he would have been the best choice for the director's chair.

I want Branagh and Johnston to be executive producers on the movie as well. I want the characters and their respective actors' performances to be consistent, and I don't want to see a different Thor in Avengers than in the solo movie, same with Iron Man, but Cap is allowed, since he'll be in a completely different setting and he's inevitably going to change throughout the film.

The other downer is the lack of a certain green, mean, hulking machine in IM 2. I would have loved a Banner cameo in IM 2, in response to the Stark cameo in TIH. Though I don't think it's a big deal at all, so long as Hulk is in Avengers. HE BETTER BE IN IT, YOU HEAR THAT PENN?!

A Hawkeye cameo would kick ass though, and I can see it fitting perfectly with IM 2.

Picture Tony walking into a bar, sitting next to a man and they have a small conversation, a bit of sarcastic wit between both of them, and the man's name is revealed to be Clint Barton, played by Chris Pine of course :)

For the director's chair, I say Matt Vaughn and JJ Abrams would be good choices.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/14/2009, 2:31 PM
ROR: But the probem is even though Spidey 1 & 2 were excellent there was TOO MUCH drama and barely none of the Peter we all know from the comic books! Pete's life is moe like a soap opera (as seen in the 60's issues and currently in BND) than a serious Peter/MJ love story!

TYLER: That would be awesome! And yeah, Chris Pine would be the best choice for Hawkeye espicially with Abrams directing!
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 2:37 PM
Fine.

James Cameron for Avengers' director's chair.
bropous - 10/14/2009, 2:42 PM
Josh, the Peter you knew and loved from the comics was just that..a comic character! Do you know how annoying and cheesy constant wise cracks while Spidey is fighting would become in a movie? It works in the comics because there they can have thought bubbles and stuff to really convey how much danger is in while he wise cracks to keep his enemies off guard..cant do that in a movie can you? The drama was always going to be amped up and im glad it was.

Also, not to sound negative(the very thought!) but we are jumping the gun here hoping for a great Avengers movie..we really should be hoping for a great Cap movie, thats the one Im really worried about. Thor, a bit too, but I have a certain amount of faith in Brannagh. If they turn out good then we can look to the Avengers...
Rorschach01 - 10/14/2009, 2:45 PM
Josh@ Everything was in balance imo :P
teabag - 10/14/2009, 2:45 PM
Ror: I know that drama is needed for a movie like that, but I got to side with Josh.

The crying wasn't well done, and looked extremely silly and was funny to watch. It really hurt the drama whenever there was crying, such as when Harry died in SM 3.

I do agree Spiderman movies need drama, so it gives a break from the comedy aspects, and gives the movie depth and emotion. I want Spidey to quip more, but I don't want to lose the drama as well. Just less crying :)

They certainly should not have Spidey quip every second, as in the comics, but definitely a bit more than in past films. The wise-cracks are a big part of who Spidey is, it's an iconic aspect of his personality.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/14/2009, 2:47 PM
Well, i guess we all see different things. I never thought the crying was out of place at all..and certainly not funny! It worked on me..and im a heartless bastard! Wouldn't you cry if your best friend died in your arms? I'm glad Raimi has the balls to allow emotion in his movies, a lot of CBM directors assume the fan boys don't want to see any..I guess they can be right!
Rorschach01 - 10/14/2009, 2:59 PM
I know the crying certainly makes sense. I would cry too if all that sh*t happened to me. But Tobey's crying was just funny. It looked hilarious, his face was priceless, and it was just distracting.
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/14/2009, 3:03 PM
ROR: I completely agree - constant wisecracks would be as annoying as hell but I think that theres been maybe only 1 or 2 (pretty awful ones) in 3 movies!

teabag: I wouldnt say that things were pefectly balanced but they werent too bad in the first two movies - I think it was just the third that started taking the character down a really bad route! Despite that, even the first two went a bit too far with the self loathing whiney Peter!
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 3:05 PM
TYLER: You mean this, lol?

crying

The Peter/Harry scene wasnt too bad - it was the Peter/MJ crying stuff that I found laughable! Theres nothing wrong with some emotion (its better than some non stop idiotic action flick) but there needs to be a much better balance. Something none of the Spider-Man have done yet!! I dont know how anyone ccould have thought that the scene where Peter swaggers down the street winking at women was a good idea! I felt embarressed watching that crap and they got the effects of the symbiote heart breakingly wrong!!!
joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 3:18 PM
Josh: Exactly that! I can't help but LMAO at that face! It's too distracting!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/14/2009, 3:21 PM
Thats cool . Favreau said he would be Exec Producing, Execs like that have ALOT of SAY SO,(ie POWER...)

It should be cool..


Skyh00k - 10/14/2009, 3:30 PM
There are plenty of capable directors out there. It be better to have someone give a new take on the world. Like he said it will be hard with the supernatural mix with high tech.
akthunder - 10/14/2009, 3:51 PM
TYLER: Man, this is just too much crying, lol!!!

whiner


joshw24 - 10/14/2009, 4:02 PM
@Joshw24, LMFAO!!

"HARRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY..."
JerzeyHellboy - 10/14/2009, 4:15 PM
I wasnt really expecting either rumour to come true

Lets just hope we get some Avengers related cameo at the end of the Iron Man 2 credits and someone incredibly talented ends up directing The Avengers, thats all I want
dancingmonkey08 - 10/14/2009, 4:16 PM
i like louis lettier's concept for a trillogy with different directors for each avenger's film...i love what he did with the hulk reboot...shame for ed norton...he should have a cameo at some point
MisterUnderhill - 10/14/2009, 4:29 PM
Jerzey: I remember that line! It was horrible! One of the funniest parts of the movie, and that's in a very bad way!
InTylerWeTrust82 - 10/14/2009, 4:31 PM
I hope they get Branagh to direct Aengers, that man hsa such scope, and you know withhim at the helm we would get an accurate adaption!
THEHAWK - 10/14/2009, 4:44 PM
Don't know who can direct an Avengers flick. I'm sure it will be someone with a vast knowledge of the comics. This movie is going to be the single most anticipated release of all time. That being said there is no room for error with this one.
hewilldefytheirgravity - 10/14/2009, 5:28 PM
Out of Brent's@ 5 possible directors from Cinematical I
want Alex Proyas to direct Avengers! Look at how he did
The Crow, it came alive right off the page with Proyas
staying true to the character and actually using certain
frames from the graphic novel to work his storyboards
around!

And he is one of the best FX/CGI directors out there.
Just look at the airliner crash and subway crash from
"Knowing"! That airplane crash made me jump right out of
my seat!

He wasn't the scriptwriter on Knowing he was
the director so he wasn't responsible for it's subject
matter but he simply directed the hell out of that
movie!
DDD - 10/14/2009, 5:43 PM
Brent I think they are great choices. I think the Avengers might be too "light" for Verhoeven.
Betty - 10/14/2009, 6:08 PM
i think they should leave all the individual franchises alone, dont even touch em. use all new actors for the roles of iron man, thor, cap, etc. and give it its own unique style and shape. i mean really all these hero movies are gonna have different directors and different vibes and then their gonna dump them all in a blender for some other guy to helm and maybe ruin? keep these projects seperate and in their own perspectives.
gaikinger - 10/14/2009, 9:12 PM
@gaikinger: The guys from Marvel like Kevin Feige have a lot of input in all of these productions. I think Favreau will have enough input in the Avengers production. I'm sure they're very thoughtfull how to combine things throughout the upcoming movies.
I doubt whether they would start all over again, if they already have a succesfull concept with Iron Man; locations, the suits, RDJ etc.
Imagine an other Tony Stark than RDJ...

DrStrange - 10/15/2009, 1:25 AM
The good thing is that Favreau is still involved. Not because he's the best director in the world or anything like that but more pointedly he was the first director of a comic based film to actually drag (in this case)Marvel guys over and seriously have a creative session to un[frick] his script and story. If he can spear-head that same mentality into all others involved, including the incoming director for Avengers, then we won't have to worry too much on how Avengers will creatively pan out.

I just can't see someone like, for example, Singer getting over himself enough to do something like that if he were involved. Ridley Scott however, I think could make a good run at it.
WeaponX - 10/15/2009, 6:10 AM
I am going batshit from waiting for Captain America news lol.


DarthMulder - 10/15/2009, 6:46 AM
You and me BOTH, DarthMulder!!! When the hell will the press conferance of Jensen Ackles accepting Cap's role, happen!?!?!?!?! LOL :P


Shaman - 10/15/2009, 8:34 AM
y'know i thought it was only 2009, but this might be the first sign of 2012 coming early. horrible news indeed
CorndogBurglar - 10/15/2009, 8:45 AM
uh oh... that's LEEE777's cue! LOL

lol @ Sahaman. Glad to know I am not alone on that, man. Truthfully it's really starting to bother me.

I don't know why but I have this intuition that Joe Johnston doesn't realize how intense and far reaching the anticipation for this movie is.
And I really really doubt he has any clue about how much is riding on every decision from our point of view.

Look at it this way: this impossible dream we have of an Avengers movie is a house of cards. If Johnston screws this up, it's like yanking out a card from the very foundation and down it all goes.
Cap is about 35% of the equation, and that's more than enough to ruin the lot.
DarthMulder - 10/15/2009, 9:24 AM
Damn i wish the intro for the iron man 2 movie was the hulk buster suit beating the sh#t out of hulk!!
gambitfreak - 10/15/2009, 11:31 AM
Damn i wish the intro for the iron man 2 movie was the hulk buster suit beating the sh#t out of hulk!!
gambitfreak - 10/15/2009, 11:34 AM
DarthMulder- "Cap is about 35% of the equation, and that's more than enough to ruin the lot"

Can't agree more with that even if i tried!!!
Shaman - 10/15/2009, 12:54 PM
This News = :(
NightAvenger4 - 10/16/2009, 8:10 AM
drstrange- what im saying is i doubt that the THOR movie will have the same cinematographers as IRON MAN or the same art director as CAPTAIN AMERICA or the same art directors or score or photography directors and I dont believe they are interchangeable and really hope they are not interchangeable. let Peter Fincher do THE AVENGERS or even Zack Snyder(i know he allready did WATCHMEN). let evolution take its course.
gaikinger - 10/16/2009, 7:11 PM
JJ Abrams for Avengers? Does it sound good, just came to me
ClintEastwood - 10/16/2009, 9:03 PM
clinteastwood-thats what i'm talking about. lets not box the whole thing in to the point where it suffocates itself. keep it fresh and keep it reimagining itself.what about Del Toro, or get ready cuz here it comes....JAMES "F@#%ING" CAMERON!
gaikinger - 10/16/2009, 9:12 PM
or what about PETER "F@#$ING" JACKSON huh? the gauntlet is thrown.
gaikinger - 10/16/2009, 10:00 PM
peter jackson would be good ive thought that too, or zack snyder watered down haha to pg13
ClintEastwood - 10/16/2009, 10:16 PM
I liked what Lois Lettereir did with The Incredible Hulk reboot.
MisterUnderhill - 10/19/2009, 6:43 PM
too many plots with too many characters means a bad movie... justic league has more of a chance. look at kingdom come, and ull know wat i mean.
kyle dalton - 10/20/2009, 3:12 PM
@Hulkout- Yeah Jackson would be a good choice, we need a director like that who could handle a massive movie and massive stars. Jackson could do that I guess. A big director is needed for it. Steven Spielberg LOL.
Ryden - 10/22/2009, 10:23 AM

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