STAR TREK: Q Returns & Seven Loses Her Borg Implants In First Teaser Trailer For PICARD Season 2

@dracula - after Discovery I still haven't checked out season 1 of this. I'm worried though. Haven't heard basically anything positive.

@bobevanz - oh do be quiet.

@darkginger - Its strange. I don't know how many times I have read the suggestion that any new Trek show should be way off in the future of the timeline of TNG/DS9/Voyager. Now that Discovery has done just that, people bitch about how bad it is, which it isn't IMHO. (Yeah I love me some Tilly too!) Just can't satisfy everyone I guess.

@grendelthing - my 1st trek was Next Gen. Love Voyager and have been rewatching DSP, Which is fantastic.
I think 1 of the reasons why people dont like Discovery is because its "woke".....which is ironic considering that is exactly what trek has always been about.

@jj2112 - If you like Farscape (*high five to a fellow scaper*), then it is worth sticking with the 90's shows until you get to Deep Space 9. A lot of the Farscape crew cut their teeth on DS9, and the tone is sometimes similar.

I've got a lot of love for TNG and DS9, but they can be a slog. And the ones that aren't good are sometimes unbearable. But the good ones are sometimes quite good, especially once you've spent some time with the characters to develop a real familiarity with them.

@Spock0Clock - Yeah high five! I'm just itching to be done with TNG to rewatch Farscape. It's been too long. Btw last week I finished rewatching Babylon 5, which I loved at the time, and I feel it's aged terribly. Few shows age gracefully.

@madhombre - then youve not been paying close attention.

@madhombre - The original Trek was indeed conceived as a western disguised as sci-fi. As Gene Roddenberry put it," 'Wagon Train' to the stars." But it was about as "woke" as it got for its time, though that term was not in use. The show was literally full of metaphors and dramatic choices that were transparently progressive to anyone alive at the time. Believe it or not, though it might be considered sexist today, even the use of miniskirts for female crew was a "woke" move as, at the time, the miniskirt was a symbol of female empowerment.

The show featured the first interracial kiss on television (Kirk and Uhura.) And that decision was on purpose and was moaned about at the time as being intentionally provocative in the name of "liberalisim." At the time, having a multi-racial bridge crew was seen as intentionally political, much less a bridge officer who was a black female. The use of female writers was also bemoaned, most notably D.C Fontana. Hell, it's routinely argued that the original series may not just have been "woke," but may have been the most "woke" series in the history of television.

You literally could not be more wrong saying that there was nothing "woke" about the original Star Trek.

@boogiefett - I’ve watched the Original Trek countless times since I was a kid.
And yes they had little messages but it was never the driving factor in an episode. The first duty was to entertain-usually with action! ( Karate chops, monsters, god like creatures, etc )
Now it’s all naval gazing and hitting you over the head with woke shit.
Let me give you an example, the Kirk/Uhura kiss was just a part of an episode where they kissed and …that was it.
If that episode was made today, it would be hinted at all episode/season long and talked about to death in a preachy way afterwards.
Writers today want to badger you with a “message” before entertaining.
That’s why most Modern shows are awful, especially Nu Treks!