AVENGERS: SECRET WARS Spoilers: We May Know Who The MCU's "Definitive Kang" Will Be

AVENGERS: SECRET WARS Spoilers: We May Know Who The MCU's "Definitive Kang" Will Be

Following speculation about who the MCU's "definitive Kang" is, a new rumour claims to reveal his identity...and Earth's Mightiest Heroes - and every reality in existence - should be worried. Check it out!

By JoshWilding - Oct 19, 2023 01:10 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

During last year's San Diego Comic-Con, Marvel Studios announced plans to release both Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars during Phase 6. 

The release dates - and creative teams - have changed since then, of course, with Jeff Loveness supposedly no longer attached to the former and Michael Waldron said to be off the latter after Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness both underwhelmed. 

Recently, Loki episode 2 director Dan DeLeeuw said we haven't seen "the definitive Kang yet," prompting speculation about which Variant that might be. The returning Conqueror? A new He Who Remains? How about Immortus? 

Try The Beyonder

According to one reliable scooper, that's still the plan (you may recall this rumour first doing the rounds late last year) for the next two Avengers movies. 

As you'll already know, there have been two comic book events named Secret Wars; the first saw The Beyonder abduct heroes and villains from Earth, pitting them against each other for his own amusement. In the second, an incursion ended with Doctor Doom ruling over an amalgamation of realities from across the Multiverse, all pulled together to create a twisted new world. 

One popular theory online is that the Kang we met in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania didn't actually die and has somehow been merged with the Multiverse itself to become an all-powerful being. However, if Loveness is no longer working on The Kang Dynasty, that idea may have been scrapped. 

Marvel Studios is often criticised for being predictable, but ditching Kang the Conqueror to introduce a Kang with the powers of The Beyonder is an unexpected move which suggests Kevin Feige and company have some unique plans for the Multiverse Saga.

It's important to note that nothing has been confirmed at this stage so we'd recommend taking this rumour with a pinch of salt. However, we have good reason to believe this will indeed be the "definitive Kang" DeLeeuw referred to.

In the comics, The Beyonder hails from an infinite realm beyond the Marvel Multiverse, called the Beyond-realm, and is the sum of everything outside that. It became self-aware and formed a being of immeasurable power known as "The Beyonder," and is both mankind's greatest saviour and threat.

Avengers: The Kang Dynasty was recently pushed back to May 1, 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars set to follow on May 7, 2027. 

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J0HNS0N
J0HNS0N - 10/19/2023, 1:07 PM
Oh well
valmic
valmic - 10/19/2023, 1:07 PM
zzzzzz
Spike101
Spike101 - 10/19/2023, 1:11 PM
Snooze…. Wake me up when it’s over please…
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 10/19/2023, 5:41 PM
@Spike101 - I’m sure we’ll bother to let you know…
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 10/19/2023, 1:11 PM
Can he just survive one f#@%&g time????
DeadClunge
DeadClunge - 10/19/2023, 1:15 PM
Jonathan majors?
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/19/2023, 1:18 PM
@TheClunges -

Two race-swaps for the price one!

Half the effort from a studio, double the tantrums from YouTube. :D
DeadClunge
DeadClunge - 10/19/2023, 1:19 PM
@DrReedRichards - 😭😂😂 I love to see it (the tantrums that is 💀)
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/19/2023, 1:20 PM
@DrReedRichards - THEY MADE BEYONDER BLACK! fOrCed DiVeRiSiTy 🫵🥴
NegativeNerd
NegativeNerd - 10/19/2023, 1:43 PM
@FireandBlood - It’S sJw WoKe GaRbAge!
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/19/2023, 1:16 PM
Didn't we already know this, that one of the variants of Nathaniel Richards was going to be revealed as a Beyonder instead of a Kang?

I swear, this feels like deja vu...
CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 10/19/2023, 1:41 PM
@DrReedRichards - Yeah there’s been talk of this for over a year now. And obviously The Beyonder is typically the main ‘Secret Wars’ villain, so to call this any kind of shock surprise and not just common sense is odd
TheLobster
TheLobster - 10/19/2023, 1:17 PM
We may not care at this point lol
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 10/19/2023, 1:18 PM
I can't get excited for Kang. Remember that feeling you got when you first saw Thanos in Avengers. How about the second version on Guardians? Now think about when you saw him on the trailer for Infinity War. Remember how excited you got?

Have you felt even the slightest bit of that for Kang?

That doesn't mean Majors is a bad actor. That doesn't mean they can't write a damn good story for him in Secret Wars. I'm just saying I don't care all that much. I felt the character was dull both times we have seen him so far.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 10/19/2023, 1:19 PM
Also don’t know how Majors didn’t look at the Egyptian costume and laugh his ass off before saying he won’t wear that shit. The post credit scene in Quantumania was so bad that it immediately killed the little excitement I had for Kang after watching him get defeated by [frick]ing ants.

Feige’s gotta go. I swear.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/19/2023, 1:21 PM
@TheLobster - Because he was having the time of his life chewing the [frick] out of that scene as all the Kang’s
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/19/2023, 1:23 PM
@FireandBlood , @TheLobster -

I honestly thought his Rama Tut was more than fine, kinda neat actually. It was his Centurion costume that didn't work for me at all.

And all Feige's gotta do is simply get his house in order. Get rid of the Alonzo's, keep the Sarah Finn's.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 10/19/2023, 1:50 PM
@FireandBlood - yeah too bad it came off as cringe. Multiple people were laughing during the entire scene at my showing including me.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 10/19/2023, 1:57 PM
@DrReedRichards - I thought Feige would get his house in order but now I’m starting to think he can’t unless they literally scrap Disney+ altogether and redo their entire plan for the next 5 years and that’s definitely not happening.

I loved the MCU for the first 3 phases but now I’m barely looking forward to anything aside from this new season of Loki. I want to be excited for Thunderbolts but ehhhhhhh..
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 10/19/2023, 2:04 PM
@TheLobster -

Not gonna lie, even though I do wholeheartedly love Phase IV for entirely different reasons than I-III, it did miss a thematic climax like the previous ones had. And V has certainly been a mixed bag thus far, especially after the very underwhelming Secret Invasion...
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/19/2023, 1:23 PM
Atp I just wanna know if the Spider Society gonna show up and how Miguel feels about this mf
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 10/19/2023, 1:27 PM
I still don’t think the one from Quantumania is actually dead
S8R8M
S8R8M - 10/19/2023, 1:30 PM
@Ha1frican - I agree. Maybe he becomes the beyonder
Vigor
Vigor - 10/19/2023, 2:13 PM
@S8R8M - yeah that's what this article implies
MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 10/19/2023, 1:32 PM
Kang just doesn't cut the mustard. Wrap the saga up, nice a quickly, it is sooooooo awful.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 10/19/2023, 1:39 PM
Cool, then maybe Molecule Man will make an appearance as well.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/19/2023, 1:43 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - As a Kang variant 🥴
marvel72
marvel72 - 10/19/2023, 1:49 PM
The Beyonder black? I would have been more surprised if they cast a white actor.

What is even more pointless is making Kang The Beyonder, why can't you keep them separate.

Why can't we have God Emperor Doom for Secret Wars?
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