Speculations on Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase 4 and Phase 5

Absolutely nobody but you is expecting or wants a 6th Iron Man movie.

Sorry @Omarvls but Dr. Strange 2 is recommended for Phase 5, the Hulk sequel maybe done as Industructible Hulk, but Black Panther 2, I wouldn't be so sure, and Inhumans 2? Why bother with that along with MoonKnight, War of Kings and Punisher? And how can they do a Captain Marvel sequel? It's best to stick with what I have in this Article instead of going off track with anymore overpopulating suggestions because I pay attention to the news on actors and how many films they are signed up for

That said, shit article.

"...which is kind of like Christopher Nolan having the League of Assassins refered to as the League of Shadows. Mostly it's because "Evil" in the name of the supervillain team wouldn't seem flawless enough for the MCU films that it's too much of a cartoon sounding name plus the motive and goals needs to be something more than just taking over the world as well as everyother villains' intentions in the movies go these day."

WTF?

Nice writeup, but most of it will probably not happen. Have no interest whatsoever in seeing a proper Mandarin being done on the big screen either. Going from such a powerful main villain as Thanos in Phase 3 and then transitioning to these "lackey" baddies such as the Hood in the next Avengers films also seems pretty preposterous to speculate on.

@PredatorRIsing drop the holier than thou act. @Omarvls had a very good suggestion and your suggestions clearly aren't Marvel Studios only options. I personally disagree with both of your on quite a few of your choices but agree on others but @PredarorRIsing acting like only you pay attention to news and actor contracts discredits you imho as nothing but someone pushing an agenda.

For example War of Kings is an insanely likely possibity as it could tie in the Inhumans, Kree, Guardians of the Galaxy, and any other races Marvel Studios chooses to add. Plus it'd be a Game of Thrones fighting for the crown genre which would only capitalize on a popular market that by then likely is looking for the next thing like Game of Thrones (which by phase 4 likely will be over).

I agree that Moon Knight and Punisher are far more likely to be Netflix material but you never stated that in your dismissile of it, so you could have handled that better. BTW I totally disagree with you on your Daredevil movie and Luke Cage/Iron Fist movies for the same reason and much of the rest of your suggestions are just Captain America and Iron Man Ad Nauseum which will cause superhero fatigue. Ever expanding out and leaving the audience wanting more are the keys to keeping this going. I personally find your suggestions way worse for Marvel Studios long term success due to this.

Further #2 movies are very likely for Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, and Inhumans (which could be War of Kings or not). Simply put all the actors for phase 3 movies will be getting multimovie contracts too and Marvel will do their best of picking a great balance of giving us which more of the ones that sold the best, thematically buildup to the next Avengers and/or Guardians of the Galaxy, keeping actors needs in mind (personal life such as Scarlet Johanson having a baby, balancing other movies they have to do, wanting to leave, getting too old, etc), and public consensus demands (such as Black Panther and Captain Marvel in phase 3 having huge public demand before they where announced).

Next off wth do you mean "how do they do a Captain Marvel sequal?" Are you being serious? They could do tons of things like set up the new Ms Marvel, send her off into space, have the Kree come to Earth, give her a brain tumor, send her back in time, have her fight HAMMER (just with new villain running it), etc... This seems like a failure of imagination or lack of knowledge of the character on your part.

I'd personally try to get the rights to Super-Skrulls from Fox (either by buying it or trading them something) and go Secret Invasion for phase 4 while tying it into War of Kings in the Cosmic Relm. After all we're getting tons of Kree stuff in phase 2 and 3 so capitalize on them further and set them up as phase 4 villain while building up phase 5 as the supernatural Doctor Strange stuff.

So not this but just to get a sence of my plan:

2019
- Indestructible Hulk 2 (late Summer, someone cause him to go full rage mode to breakup Avengers, in following movie it's revealed it was the Skrulls)
- Iron Man 4 (November, dealing with all the Inhumans and A.I.M. trying to experiment on them)

2020
- Guardians of the Galaxy 3 (May, deals wit Kree Skrull war)
- Black Widow (late summer, Spy Movie: have her uncover the Skrulls in effort to clear Hulks name as the movie that changes everything like Cap 2 and Thor 3 before it)
- Doctor Strange 2 (November, mostly set up for following phases might tie in Scarlet Witch)

2021
- Captain America 4 (May, Cap and some inhumans deals with evil Inhumans pushed to the limits by Hyrda/Aim/Skrull/general predjudices)
- Thor 4 The Tenth Relm (July, Ragnarok causes the Tenth Relm to reopen, Thor leaves Earth to find his lost Sister)
- Captain Marvel 2 (November, hard to say since no one knows what #1 is about and if earth based or cosmic but let's just say it's cosmic and ties-in with kree)

2022
- Avengers Secret Invasion part 1 (May, Skrulls go public Hulk and Thor missing)
- Black Panther 2 (july, Black Panther leaves to defend Wakonda from Invasion)
- Inhumans: War of Kings Inhumans (November, fight off Kree who attack earth once Skrulls get revealed in Avengers Secret Invasion part 1)

2023
-Avengers Secret Invasion part 2 (May, Thor and Hulk show back up and end invasion)

Again, not a plan I actually have or desires... just illustrating point of Marvel connecting everything and movies take 2-4 years to make so your Iron Man 4 and 5 aren't spaced out far enough now that Marvel us making 3 movies a year. Plus if Marvel can ever get Spider-man back they must work it in asap, so again I'm not attached to the movies here just using them as an example to illustrate a point

The Mangler?

Where the fick did he get the Mangler?

*sigh* I see predator rising is still writing articles. Let's see now, how many articles did you write about how Iron Man 4 was gonna be part of Phase 3 and how it would be more of a spy/James Bond type movie with Stark going against the "real" Mandarin (all because you completely misunderstood Feige saying that Iron Man could be a James Bond-type character, which actually meant other actors can play him.)?

This is clearly just more nonsense. Marvel introduces Black Panther, Capt. Marvel, and Inhumans in Phase 3 but are nowhere to be found later on? And where are GotG? Now, I imagine Marvel will wait to make sure the movies do well, but I can guarantee that more than likely all those movies will get sequels (Inhumans, imo, has the best chance of bombing and not getting a sequel of those movies.) Daredevil might get a movie someday, but I don't see Luke Cage or Iron Fist getting one. And I think Feige does still have some interest in a Black Widow movie. But, while I may be wrong, I would bet a month's salary that predator rising is wrong.

My fantasy Phase 4

Dr. Strange 2: The Mindless Ones: Strange battles Dormammu and his Mindless Ones from entering earth. I am assuming Dormammu is pulling the strings in Strange 1. If Marvel could find a way to introduce Brother Voodoo in Strange 2 would be awesome. Or even introduce Cloak and Dagger in Strange 2.

Thor 4: Stormbreaker; Thor, along with Sif, go searching for Surtur. Assuming Surtur plays a role in Ragnarok. Thor and Sif go on the offensive to stop Surtur from causing destruction in the cosmos. Along the way the meet a victim of Surturs, Beta Ray Bill. Thor realizes he alone cannot defeat Surtur. He seeks the aid of the Dwarfs, who in turn create Stormbreaker.

Black Panther 2: Uprising; I believe in AoU Wakanda will only be revealed to the world. The Avengers, along with T'Challa, stop Ultron before he can reach Wakanda. In Civil War I believe Wakanda only plays a role in fixing Caps shield. T'Challa joins Civil War because he disagrees with the registration and believes he and Wakanda can no longer stand on the sidelines. In BP 1 I believe AIM, change it up from Hydra, try to enter Wakanda to of course get Vibranium. The villains will be Taskmaster and Scientist Supreme. Now in BP 2 M'Baku, with the aid of Hunter/White Wolf, start a rebellion against T'Challa. I want this film to completely take place in Wakanda.

Guardians of the Galaxy 3: The Phalanx; I believe in GotG 2, Warlock will be split into to separate physical forms due to the Aether. One being Warlock, with the Soul Gem, and the other being Magus, with the power of the Aether. With that being said, I believe in the 3rd film we will have two new members, Warlock and Mantis. The Guardians will receive a distress call from a planet being under attack by the Phalanx, and in need of aid. I believe this is when Moondragon makes her debut, different from her comic history, she will be under the Phalanx's control.

Captain Marvel 2: Warbird; I believe CM 1 will focus on Carol leaving earth, due too a message sent to her via Mar-Vell, warning of Thanos and his forces. I originally thought we we would see Richard Rider appear in Infinity War 1, I still believe he will play a prominent role in Infinity War. However I think CM 1 will have Carol going on the offensive against Thanos, instead of waiting for him. Along the way she gains an ally in Nova Centurion, Richard Rider. Now with that I believe CM 2 will focus on the Kree Empire. With the events of Infinity War the world's leaders create SWORD. The Kree empire decides to invade Earth, for strategic reasons. Mar-Vell volunteers to lead the army, only doing so to warn and aid Carol.

Nova 1: With Rider being introduced in CM 1, and playing a major role in Infinity War, the public will be ready for a Nova film. Rider seeks out other surviving Nova Officers through out the cosmos. He finds a lead on a Nova Officer, last name Alexander. Alexander us on the run from Titus, who wants the Nova helmet back. Sets up Sam Alexander at the end, and gives more info about the Nova Force. Also believe Xander will obviously be destroyed by Thanos in Infinity War 1.

Defenders 2: The Hood; Dare Devil, Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones team up for their big screen debut with a sequel to Defenders. They all must band together to stop a new Street Lird, only known as The Hood. They will also have a new Hero for Hire on the payroll, Scott Lang.

Avengers: Gamma; This roster will include Stark, Banner, Rhodey, T'Challa, Vision. This squad will face off against the Leader. The leader has been making Gamma monsters but has yet to create his masterpiece. He is frustrated with failing, he decides he needs Banners' blood to create his masterpiece. He sends forces against this group of Avengers, fails again. Abducts Jennifer, thinking it will bring Banner to him without the aid of his team. This does happen but the team finds Banner and try to rescue both of them. But first The Avengers must face the leader's masterpieces, a mind controlled She-Hulk and a creature very similar to Red Hulk, not Ross in the MCU.

Avengers: Thunderbolts: This roster includes Captain America, Falcon, Scarlett Witch, Quicksilver, Hawkeye, Black Widow. Baron Zemo decides in order to rule the earth, he forms an uneasy alliance with the Leader, aids Leader in abducting Jennifer, this move helps get the East Coast Avengers out of the picture. Zemo decides to he needs a team to battle the West Coast Avengers. Zemo gathers Taskmaster, Crossbones, and his ace in the hole, Klaw. Klaw thought to be dead, was given modifications by Zemo and Hydra. He and Hydra also help create Songbird, and free an imprisoned Moonstone. Bucky too joins the Thunderbolts, as a mole of sorts. Zemo still believing Bucky has no memories, and is still the Winter Soldier, Bucky plays the part and turns the battle for the West Coast Avengers. Zemo defeated and imprisoned, is freed by Enchantress, who makes her debut in Ragnarok as Loki's hidden ally, and offered revenge against the Avengers, if he decides to join the Masters.

Avengers: Masters of Evil; Both teams must unite to defend earth against the Masters, never actually called Masters of Evil in the film just title. The team consists of Zemo, Leader, Red Hulk, Abomination, Klaw, and a surprising Justin Hammer, via his newly created Crymson Dynamo armor. Hammer also creates some drones and Leader creates a few monstrosities to aid the Masters. The Avengers have no clue about Enchantress, they simply think this is about revenge and getting rid of the Avengers to conquer thebplanet. However this is nothing more than a distraction for Enchantress' real motives, locating the Norse Stones for Loki, not all stones are here, just a few.

That is my fantasy for the film side of the MCU.

My fantasy Phase 5 Netflix Series

Moon Knight: The first two episodes should be a telling of the night Khonshu and Spector become one. I really hope it is gritty, and really becomes a psychological series. Is Spector truly endowed with powers, is he a vessel for Khonshu, or is he simply crazy? I would also like him to go back to Egypt for some episodes.

The Thunderbolts Series: Luke Cage is asked by Director Coulson to lead a new team under the supervision of SHIELD. Cage, Iron Fist, Songbird, Moonstone, Penance (not Speedball but Zemo, big reveal), Taskmaster, Deathlok and Quake (Coulson's insider). Coulson creates the team due to his belief that the Thunderbolts will go and what the Avengers will not do. He is fed up with Hydra and decides to chop off all heads, the Thunderbolts being his axe.

The Inhumans Series: I believe in the Inhumans film we will find out they have the Time Gem. It is slowing time in Attilan and this is what brings them into Infinity War. The city was initially in the Himalayas, after events of Infinity War it is moved to the Blue Area of the Moon.

Tales of Suspense: Think of Tales of the Crypt meets marvel. A number of characters around the MCU, including the cosmos. Man-Thing, WereWolf by Night, Howard the Duck, Brither Voodoo, Black Knight, Captain Britain. List can be endless.