Lanterns Producer Says Green Lantern Ring Is "Sexist," Some Writers Knew Nothing About The Character

Lanterns Producer Says Green Lantern Ring Is "Sexist," Some Writers Knew Nothing About The Character

Lanterns writer and co-executive producer Vanessa Baden Kelly has divided opinions by branding the show's Green Lantern Corps ring a "sexist" and admitting some writers were unfamiliar with the hero.

By JoshWilding - Sep 03, 2026 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Lanterns
Source: Collider

Most reviews have praised Lanterns and, according to HBO, the premiere delivered strong viewership numbers. While Season 2 hasn't been officially greenlit, writers have started meeting to plot out where the story could go next. 

The reaction from fans to Lanterns has been a little more mixed. While the show isn't quite at the halfway point, there have been complaints about Hal Jordan's apparent death, big changes to the lore, and a unique approach to John Stewart's origin story. 

The show's creatives haven't necessarily helped matters, whether it's Damon Lindelof calling the "Green" in Green Lantern "stupid" or the host of DC Studios' official podcast branding Hal Jordan a racist

Now, Lanterns writer and co-executive producer Vanessa Baden Kelly has made a startling admission in an interview with Collider

"I'll start by saying that by having Tom King and Damon Lindelof in the room, with Tom King offering so many Green Lantern books, those conversations are really robust because many of us were more casual Green Lantern fans," she told the site. "Some didn't know anything about Green Lantern."

As a result, it was down to King to tell them things like, "Oh, no, that doesn't change. That is who John Stewart is," and "It's just not going to happen. Sorry, that's never going to work." For Kelly, that was key in making sure they were "respectful to the canon while simultaneously being a fresh take and a more human, grounded version of who this character is."

The conversation took a bit of a peculiar turn when Kelly explained why the Green Lantern Corps ring—which chose John Stewart Sr. before seemingly settling for Hal—didn't pick Bernadette Stewart. 

"The thing that I would always say in the room is that if the ring wasn't sexist, Bernadette would have been chosen, because she really is just the most fearless of everybody," she revealed. "For me personally, as a writer, and I feel like most of the writers’ room would probably agree, this idea of willpower and overcoming fear is so different depending on where you stand."

Kelly continued, "So, what Bernadette was pointing out to them is, 'You guys don't take any care in learning the differences of the people that you're asking for this. So, yes, you got a shit face for this job, and it's clear you don't like him, but here's why you don't like who you got — because you're actually not picking the bravest people. You're picking the people dumb enough to not be scared.'"

While it's possible that Kelly's comments about the ring being sexist were made in jest, these remarks have already gained traction on social media as an example of the apparent disdain DC Studios has for Hal Jordan.

With five more episodes left, it's too soon to make any sort of conclusion about that, especially as we still don't know how this story ends. However, if Lanterns doesn't stick the landing, then it will come as another blow to the still-young DCU.

The first three episodes of Lanterns are now streaming on HBO Max.

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SeeYouIn2036
SeeYouIn2036 - 9/3/2026, 12:45 PM
"Hal Jordan is a dumb shit face" says person in charge of Green Lantern.
InfinitePunches
InfinitePunches - 9/3/2026, 1:02 PM
@SeeYouIn2036 - They can never take GLtas away from us...
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Thing94
Thing94 - 9/3/2026, 12:46 PM
Wow James Gunn you allowed this writing team with all their bullshit?
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 9/3/2026, 2:59 PM
@Thing94 - These lunatics should be nowhere near these IP’s
FireGunn
FireGunn - 9/3/2026, 5:54 PM
@Thing94 - Gunn is a plant sent to destroy these characters. He loves this
jst5
jst5 - 9/4/2026, 12:27 AM
@Thing94 - You really think Gunn doesn't agree with these shit takes by those over Laterns??He 100% agrees he's just as much of a hack as they are.
TheRevelation
TheRevelation - 9/4/2026, 8:55 AM
@Thing94 - It seems to be a common occurrence these days.

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Note: there is no Liam as the Witcher...cuz why?
hierarchy
hierarchy - 9/3/2026, 12:49 PM
Airforce pilots especially test pilots are generally dumb, too dumb to be scared. The people aiming a gun and shooting apples off their kid's head are smart though. With just a logical amount of bravery.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/3/2026, 1:00 PM
@hierarchy - I mean , John does realize they were crazy and even says so to Lianna but the parents (not justifying the approaches they took) were essentially building a GL from birth essentially like the parents of talented athletes did such as the Williams sisters or Jalen Brunson etc.
hierarchy
hierarchy - 9/3/2026, 1:07 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I agree, I do not see John as being crazy or dumb but saying he should not have been chosen and is dumb with the previous candidate (dad) doing what he is doing. Is illogical.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/3/2026, 1:12 PM
@hierarchy - the previous candidate aka John’s dad did that after he was chosen and reluctantly so , atleast more then the mom.

It’s never stated in the show that they were brave to do nor does John endorse their behavior really..

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Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 12:49 PM
lol - it's amazing to see people still shilling for this show
foreverintheway
foreverintheway - 9/3/2026, 12:52 PM
@Lucasberg - "it's amazing to see people still shilling for this show" - someone who doesn't know what shilling means
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 12:54 PM
@foreverintheway - what are you babbling about?
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/3/2026, 2:12 PM
@Lucasberg - probably the meaning of "shill," and how you're misusing the word.
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 2:27 PM
@Clintthahamster - Ooh I love it

This is the sort of thing people do when their side is losing the argument. No substance to defend what you guys are contending and so you angle into a faux place of authority (which a favorite posture of the left is expert, hall monitor, and especially language police - all unsavory titles to hold :)).

The whole earth understands the vernacular I used.

Anyhow, look man, I was really rooting for this show. I have defended Gunn's DCU. I defended and enjoyed Superman and Supergirl and defended it with the minority on that movie. Sadly, the writing and activism this show is involved with sucks big fat ones and there's no hiding it. If it was another Peacemaker type character, then nobody cares. However, Gunn just sacrificed Hal Jordan on the high alter of wokified prerogatives. Top 5 DC hero.

Bye James Gunn. Bye Shills
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/3/2026, 2:53 PM
@Lucasberg - The difference between saying you like a show because you like it, and saying you like a show because you're being paid to do so, is a meaningful one.

"Gunn just sacrificed Hal Jordan on the high alter of wokified prerogatives."

The show isn't over yet. They've made it exceedingly clear that it will be structured around flashbacks, and that details about characters will be revealed along the way. The VERY FIRST EPISODE showed three distinct Hals, the steely, confident hero of '96, the nervous, traumatized shell of '06, the alcoholic mess of '16. You think maybe they plan on explaining those differences before the end of the season? So many complaints about "bad writing" boil down to a discomfort with ambiguity. Let them finish the story before you decide it's shit, maybe?
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 3:14 PM
@Clintthahamster - Okay briefly: shill was in reference to people pretending the show is not portraying actual hatred towards just ordinary white dudes. People shilling for this to act like what's merely at work is great storytelling and not blatant feminist propaganda because they are in the tank for this cultural engineering. Shilling is not something done only for money and ordinary vernacular certainly is not limited to that. Mr. Cat Avatar @foreverintheway decided to try to "gotcha" me on that because he doesn't like that I'm not in the tank for Lanterns.

Regarding the show, it's really well executed in it's storytelling (like all Lindelof stuff!) but I don't see how you redeem Hal after making him such a shallow-loser-kinda-racist-self absorbed "hero" - couple that with the comments episode 3 director said about him and its just absurd that *DC STUDIOS* hired leadership that would let this kinda thing happen to Hal freakin Jordan! LOL. I used to buy this guy's comics. His history was (long after introduced) a guy who was steady, strong-willed and had blind spots (like anyone at times)...there's the whole Parallex thing but later retconned I'm sure you know. Bottom line, Hal is freaking awesome. I would like to hope against hope and opt for finishing the show but Lindelof is famously terrible at finishing things so there's that too.
foreverintheway
foreverintheway - 9/3/2026, 3:28 PM
@Lucasberg - "actual hatred towards just ordinary white dudes", "feminist propaganda" buddy I think you need to get some fresh air. none of that is actually happening in this show. Do you actually not think a black man in the 80s might have a different experience than a white guy? Do you know who Rodney King is? I love that this show touches on race - and I love even more that its got you so triggered.
foreverintheway
foreverintheway - 9/3/2026, 3:32 PM
@Lucasberg - and also you do not know what shill actually means lol
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/3/2026, 3:41 PM
@Lucasberg - Despite my prescriptivist tendencies, I try not to be an actual prescriptivist, so I am willing to accept shifts in language and meaning over time. I guess I would probably draw a distinction between the verb form, which I feel probably does have a broader vernacular meaning, and the noun form, which is still pretty narrow, at least in my filter bubble. But you and I clearly have very different media diets.

As for the storytelling on the show, I'm not going to lie to you and say that this is the characterization I would have chosen for Hal, but it's the choice they made, and I'm enjoying the show overall.

I definitely don't see he show as being anti-white or "blatant feminist propaganda" but again, different filter bubbles, different media diet, different political valence. Watching the show, it hasn't occurred to me once that it was either of those things, because I have a different worldview. I see good white folks and bad white folks (and no, I don't consider Hal to be bad, but more likely traumatized and dealing with it poorly.)
spr0cks
spr0cks - 9/3/2026, 3:55 PM
@Lucasberg -

RE : >>>"lol - it's amazing to see people still shilling for this show"

Sounds like someone's going to be pretty upset to find out the ratings and viewership numbers for this latest "HORRIBLE" episode of this "terrible" show.

"lol"....indeed.
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 4:18 PM
@foreverintheway - Rodney King happened in the 90s and I specifically remember him because 9 year old me was actually at the Lakers playoffs game 3 against Portland that they won that night in double overtime. Walked out of the Forum where the Lakers played celebrating and immediately realized that we were like in the middle of almost a warzone lol.

Here's the thing: they can and should touch on race when adapting John Stewart. That was part of the purpose of the character. Its the way they're doing it @Clintthahamster and @foreverintheway that is cringe de la cringe and yes actually hostile towards white dudes:

"white men have the privilege of being eccentric. White men with money? They can do whatever the f*** they want. Play cowboy, build castles."
“the only reason Hal Jordan is a Green Lantern is because, like a lot of self-assured white men, he's privileged enough to know no fear”

This is obviously aimed at Hal, but then also, just white men generally. It’s asserting that white men have the system gamed and are weirdos without empathy. It’s racist. You say that towards any other race and it’s racist. This is not hard. Add this to the lectures in episode 3 and Hal being kind of a racist and cmon dude. Quit denying reality here… this stuff is just ridiculous writing and assumes the most shallow things about “white” people and conversely just preaches that “black” people are eternally victims. It’s just deluded.

Anyways, @foreverintheway, thanks for the concern but I'm not triggered and not running out of fresh air. I'm just ya know, observing stuff about the show.
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 4:21 PM
@spr0cks - hey man, I'm not upset. This could have the best viewership of all time and it wouldn't change its smug and nasty statements towards white dudes for being *checks notes* - for being white dudes.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/3/2026, 5:41 PM
@Lucasberg - "white men have the privilege of being eccentric. White men with money? They can do whatever the f*** they want. Play cowboy, build castles."
“the only reason Hal Jordan is a Green Lantern is because, like a lot of self-assured white men, he's privileged enough to know no fear”


IDK, man, where's the lie? Look at Elon Musk, hoarding enough wealth to end world hunger a dozen times over, or Mark Zuckerberg's 2,300 acre compound in Hawaii, or, hell, look at the ENTIRE Epstein thing, which was made up of weird, rich, white men doing whatever the [frick] they want without consequences.

But also, as others have pointed out, the characters that are saying this are not audience proxies. They're themselves hurt, damaged people talking about their point of view.

"This is obviously aimed at Hal, but then also, just white men generally."

It's not, though, unless you're a rich white dude building castles and playing cowboy. And "a lot of self-assured men" is describing a subset of a subset, not remotely general.

Is it possible that you've been conditioned to take this more personally because of your media diet? Because I can watch a show like this and never once have the thought "they're talking about me."
FireGunn
FireGunn - 9/3/2026, 6:01 PM
@Lucasberg - The @Clintthahamster dude is an eternal shill who blocked me because I destroyed his ass in a debate. Don't even bother. He shills for everything Marvel and DC has ever made. I don't think I've seen him dislike a single thing ever.
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 6:54 PM

@Clintthahamster - the lie is in the name calling being exclusively applied to “whites” and in its generalization. There are nasty and good among all the races. We can all point to bad people in each group. Whites have Epstein (well and Jews lol). Blacks have Diddy. Mexicans have El Chapo. Laying blame solely or primarily at one single race is myopic and kind of playing god and it’s a really dim way of seeing the world. This isn’t just a left problem or feminist problem with white males though, it’s also a conspiracy theorist problem towards Jews to be fair.

The show has spent an inordinate amount of talk and time on this from multiple characters if all it’s trying to do is portray specific characters views. Add to that the comments made by actual creators of this show and it’s clear these characters are expressing the worldview of the storytellers.

I made these inferences and conclusions based upon my own distaste for the content which is formed by the principle laid down by Jesus “do not judge based upon appearances”…. That applies in all directions - not just at those who are presumed to be in power.

It’s not that I think they’re talking about me per se that bothers me. It’s rhetoric designed to demonize and dismiss entire classes of people that makes me do the DiCaprio point at the Tv. It’s just not true and makes the hearers dumber for their listening to it, not to mention sort of ruining what’s supposed to be like a party for all nerds to enjoy with a live action adaptation of Green Lantern. The equivalent of going to a party and taking a dump in the punch bowl man lol.

I really try not to engineer my responses based upon group think. I liked Supergirl. Loved Odyssey. Conservatives (of which I mostly am) were embarrassingly so wrong about that movie (not all but many loudly so).

Also, racism is not a white thing. It’s a human thing. If you want to approach that subject, you must do so thoughtfully and with the aim being truth captured by it. This show regarding this has been pretty dopey and hamfisted in its lectures and prejudiced in its casual dismissal of the white man.

I will add too unrelated to this topic but related to the show: I really hate that episode 1 John Stewart is sleeping with another man’s wife. Granted he didn’t know she was married but even that being beside the point, just hooking up with some chick at a bar at start go? He’s supposed to be a hero with signs of good sense and virtue already budding. Not everyone is Clark Kent but that was just kind of gross really weak willed for a soon to be Green Lantern. And why is Hal acting like Guy Gardner? Lol he’s going to tiddy bars? Get outta here with that crap characterization.

But hey, maybe there’s a sliver of a chance that this is all gonna be righted by the end of the show. Seems very unlikely but maybe?

Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 7:02 PM
@FireGunn - I’ve been having debates with him off and on for years. We disagree on most things but I welcome the pushback. I like hearing other peoples views (even if they seem crazy) as long as they’re willing to let me express my ideas as they want to express theirs.

That sucks that he blocked you. People do that all the time online and it just creates echo chambers which lead to duller output if you ask me.

I will add: I am team Fire James Gunn as well now. This show tipped the scales for me.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/3/2026, 10:06 PM
@Lucasberg - man, if you're expecting the show to backtrack on the objectively true premise that, controlling for all other variables, white dudes have things a little easier than most other folks, then I think you'll be disappointed. But like, for most folks, that's just "sky blue, water wet" territory. It's just objectively, self evidently true.

But if you are truly perceiving that the majority of film and television narratives are based on that premise, then I would challenge you to consider the idea that maybe there's some confirmation bias going on, and maybe to take a break from your usual algorithmic stream of videos and social media posts.
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/3/2026, 11:10 PM
@Clintthahamster - enjoy the exchange of ideas with you but this is again an area where we disagree about what is objectively true and what it means.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/4/2026, 8:41 AM
@Lucasberg - Not looking to prolong this too far, but is there anything could convince you that white folks, and white men in particular, have a general structural advantage in employment, education, housing, etc? Or would you say that you'd mistrust anything that provided evidence that contradicted your world view?
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/4/2026, 2:40 PM
@Clintthahamster - 60 years ago in the U.S. definitely.

Now I don’t really think so.

The highest performing people in our country dollars and cents wise if you want to argue about it, it’s Asian communities. I’m sure you know that already. They have found a way to succeed in our system as a minority group better than the majority group.

Politically we have every type of minority group represented practically and have had Black Americans running for or winning presidencies, vice presidencies and every other level of government etc.

In terms of pop culture Bad Bunny did the halftime show and Michael B. Jordan won best Oscar this past year.

Some of these are anecdotes but I’m just illustrating what I see.

Far more interesting to me as predictors for success and hardship are two parent households and poverty. Conservatives constantly talking about the two parent thing so I won’t beat that drum here but it’s real. I find the Bernie Sanders complaints about classism (not his solutions to it though) more compelling than the allegations about racism being systemic. In fact, the U. S. by far is the most diverse country in the world with great success and immigrants fight tooth and nail to get over here for some reason. Human nature does preclude majorities to be prejudiced for their own type over others which is wrong. However, in the case of America (and more broadly the West) we’ve created a zillion laws to mitigate that fact to our credit).

The left point to raw figures like incarceration rates and poverty levels as proof of structural privilege for whites. That argument is dead on arrival to me unless they can demonstrate disparities in our laws or the application of our laws. I’ve been working in and around the criminal justice system for decades now at this point and I just don’t see it. Never met a criminal that didn’t earn their sentence and I’ve met thousands and thousands. Wealth though for disparities in application of the law? Oh my gosh yes. If you can afford the great lawyer team you can get away with murdering Nicole Simpson. I used the Simpson case intentionally to illustrate my point which was a genius illustration on my part :).

The last thing I want to say is if a person imagines themselves a victim (even if they’re not especially so) then that’s how they’ll act and feel. Messaging to entire segments of the populace that they’re victims and can’t get ahead because of the past is poison for the soul. If there’s current day laws or application of those laws that are unjust then drag that stuff into the light to have them fixed.

I could be wrong since I’m not omniscient and have to rely upon a flawed media and government for “facts” related to this but this is my honest sense about this stuff.

I live in SoCal and have a group of dudes I’ve been friends with forever now. Our families hang out together. We do fishing trips together. Go to the same church. 6 of us. 3 white dudes. 1 Nicaraguan. 1 black dude. 1 Vietnamese dude. Everyone is doing fine. No one has had run ins with the law. The second highest income earner in the group is the black dude. My wife is half Mexican. Her mom migrated here when she was 12. Shes doing fine too. Again, this is anecdotal but I’m just telling you what I see. I almost didn’t even share these personal details because the left loves to accuse whites who share anything like this as somehow also proof of racism lol but I just don’t care and it was relevant to the point.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 9/4/2026, 2:43 PM
@Clintthahamster -
"...three distinct Hals,.."

My apologies for hijacking this thread, but I think this is one of the best parts of the show...!
It not only shows off these 3 stages that Hal has gone through since becoming a Lantern but the range of Kyle Chandler as an actor...!
Thank you for letting me cut in...! ☮️🙂
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/4/2026, 3:28 PM
@Lucasberg - "Some of these are anecdotes"

Other than the first paragraph, I'd say it's all anecdotes.

"That argument is dead on arrival to me unless they can demonstrate disparities in our laws or the application of our laws."

Would sir except this 2023 report showing that Black and Hispanic men receive 13% and 11% longer sentences respectively than white men for similar crimes, and are 23% and 27% less likely to be given probationary sentences than White men?

https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2023-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing

"The last thing I want to say is if a person imagines themselves a victim (even if they’re not especially so) then that’s how they’ll act and feel."

Please keep this energy the next time dudes on here are talking about diverse casting as an insidious plot against white men.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 9/4/2026, 4:02 PM
@Lucasberg - And to be clear, I've got sources to refute some of your other claims if you're interested, but I'm concerned you'll take issue with the source. The unfortunate truth is that conservative media doesn't follow the social justice beat too closely.

That said, if you're bored over the weekend, it might be fun to spend 10 minutes with this little recap of the history and lasting impact of redlining, racist housing policies in post-war America that lead to the wealth disparities we still see today.

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Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/4/2026, 4:22 PM
@Clintthahamster -

“Other than the first paragraph, I'd say it's all anecdotes”

Anecdotes are not sufficient data alone but they are not throwaway either just sayin (not saying you’re doing that) - plurality of anecdotes is a thing.

“Please keep this energy the next time dudes on here are talking about diverse casting as an insidious plot against white men”

I do. I praised Odyssey upwards and downwards. If casting diverse is done to make a statement or for diversity’s sake I think it’s lame. If it’s done for talent’s sake or because it matched the director’s vision then it’s great i.e. Odyssey



“Would sir except this 2023 report showing that Black and Hispanic men receive 13% and 11% longer sentences respectively than white men for similar crimes, and are 23% and 27% less likely to be given probationary sentences than White men?”

This is exactly the sort of thing thats worthy of public debate as to why and if there’s no mitigating circumstances that are justified like behavior inside the courtroom and inside corrections then it should be addressed with new laws. Something perhaps like simple rules regarding sentencing and probation that must apply to all type thing.
Lucasberg
Lucasberg - 9/4/2026, 4:23 PM
@Clintthahamster - I’ll give it a watch
SeeYouIn2036
SeeYouIn2036 - 9/3/2026, 12:51 PM
We gotta stop letting these people play with our toys, man.
FireGunn
FireGunn - 9/3/2026, 5:53 PM
@SeeYouIn2036 - They all need to be fired and made an example of. They're all sick and morally twisted [frick]s
XenoJazz
XenoJazz - 9/3/2026, 12:51 PM
It's just hate watching at this point. Im really trying to like it but more bullshit continues to pile up.
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