Lanterns Backlash Intensifies As DC Studios Podcast Host Brands Hal Jordan A Racist

Lanterns Backlash Intensifies As DC Studios Podcast Host Brands Hal Jordan A Racist

Lanterns' controversial take on Hal Jordan and John Stewart has sparked heated debate, but an unexpected claim that Hal is "canonically" racist has added another surprising layer to the discussion.

By JoshWilding - Sep 02, 2026 05:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Lanterns

Sunday's episode of Lanterns divided opinions after establishing that John Stewart Sr. was offered the Green Lantern ring before Hal Jordan. However, his love for his family and the heavy socio-political reality he's faced as a Black man in America made him afraid.

The apparent insinuation that Hal "stole" the ring from a Black man has generated a lot of heated debates. Some have praised Lanterns' hard-hitting approach to racial issues, but others feel that framing Hal's selection in a way that can be interpreted as an advantage afforded by his white privilege is a misstep. 

The suggestion that Hal could more easily appear "fearless" due to not experiencing the same societal fears is valid (his actual origin and the sources of his fearlessness will be explored in a future episode). Still, traditional Green Lantern lore centres on willpower and the ability to overcome fear as universal, individual qualities.

With that in mind, many fans have argued that the episode has rewritten why Hal is Green Lantern. At the same time, John's origin has been criticised as placing too much emphasis on his family's experiences with racism and his mother's influence, rather than his own individual agency and worthiness.

It's a complicated, hot-button issue. John's political awareness and the exploration of race also have roots in his 1970s comic origins, and Bernadette Stewart's perspective is presented as her interpretation shaped by experience, not necessarily the objective cosmic truth. 

Still, as fans continue to argue about this creative direction for Lanterns, fuel has been added to the fire from an unexpected source. 

It started when DC Studios Showcase: The Official Podcast host Frankey Smith took to Threads to write, "Hate to break it to ya but Hal is indeed a bit of a racist." When a fan took issue with that, Smith suggested he watch Paw Patrol instead of Lanterns and doubled down on Hal "canonically" being a racist, using this excerpt as an example:

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In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the socially conscious Green Lantern/Green Arrow run by Dennis O’Neil and Neal Adams deliberately portrayed Hal as an establishment-oriented figure who was somewhat out of touch with Earth-bound social issues.

The Guardians of the Universe admonished Hal for saying John has a "chip on his shoulder," calling out his "petty bigotries." He also referred to his Inuit friend/sidekick Tom Kalmaku with the outdated and offensive nickname "Pieface," which has long been dropped and treated as a product of its era.

Now, Hal and John are routinely shown as equals and allies, and it would be misleading to describe Hal as "canonically" racist based solely on those early stories (any more than John is for labelling Hal "whitey" during the same era of now-outdated storytelling). 

You can read the exchange in the X posts below.

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Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/2/2026, 5:38 AM
"The suggestion that Hal could more easily appear "fearless" due to not experiencing the same societal fears is valid." Wait wtf??? So now people who haven't experienced racism are exempt of any other forms of fear in their lives? Dude literally lost his dad in a plane crash when he was just a child.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 9/2/2026, 7:41 AM
@Urubrodi - Victimism can function as a form of masqueraded arrogance. That's why the people that appeal constantly to it, fail to empathize with others.
CamtonoOfBeskar
CamtonoOfBeskar - 9/2/2026, 8:35 AM
@Urubrodi - We all face the same fears, "some" people just have the additional fear of race based discrimination to deal with, while "some" people don't.

It's really not that complicated.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/2/2026, 8:49 AM
@CamtonoOfBeskar - User Comment Image
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/2/2026, 8:52 AM
@CamtonoOfBeskar - Reading comprehension is also not that complicated. His mother literally argues with a freaking blue alien that Hal had white privilege (implying that for that reason he got the ring) and that you can’t ask a black man if he’s afraid cause he’s always afraid of the system. They were forcing social messaging about an alien selection process for a new Green Lantern lol the whole episode is about Jon being groomed not to be a hero but a black symbol. Yes, racism exists and it’s a problem, but everybody else has their own issues to deal with
Huskers
Huskers - 9/2/2026, 9:14 AM
@Urubrodi - Didn’t he also witness his Dad’s plane crash?!?!
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/2/2026, 9:16 AM
@Huskers - Yup, and a lot of people would have been traumatised to witness something like that at any point in their lives and especially as a kid.
Elle79
Elle79 - 9/2/2026, 9:48 AM
@CamtonoOfBeskar - So how do you weigh one "fear" against another. Oh that's right, you can't, so you'd rather just play the Victim Olympics.
90caliber
90caliber - 9/2/2026, 9:57 AM
@Elle79 - No one has fear of you. You will be the victim as far as I am concerned
CamtonoOfBeskar
CamtonoOfBeskar - 9/2/2026, 10:05 AM
@Urubrodi - I'm not claiming that it was particularly clever written, the idea that an alien shows up randomly at your doorstep and asks "are you afraid" but there it is. Hal overcame all of his fears. The fear of death and loss that we ALL deal with. Jon's dad, did not overcome his fears, a fear that we DON'T all deal with.

If you want to argue that straight white males suffer all the same fears as everyone else in this world then that's a whole different topic.

You say it yourself here

"Yes, racism exists and it’s a problem, but everybody else has their own issues to deal with"

Imagine having racism to deal with ontop of all our own, shared issues.
alleverybody
alleverybody - 9/2/2026, 10:12 AM
@Urubrodi - It's funny how the mom says, "Even in space you don't consider us." The ring literally picked a black man before a white man for Green Lantern.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/2/2026, 10:15 AM
@CamtonoOfBeskar - The problem comes from how it's portrayed, which was very very poorly, where it's portrayed, in a superhero space cop type show (we are not tune in to watch Green Lantern to have social messaging forced upon us), why it's portrayed, cause the writers are hijacking a medium that's clearly not for them to spread their ideals. And in the end of the day if the goal is to raise awareness towards racism, showcasing the worst parents ever as a black couple is not a good move. Job Stewart is not Green Lantern in the comics because of his skin colour nor because he was groomed and force to be one, but because he deserved it, he had the willpower. They made sure to undermine all of that in one episode. Imo when you start making everything about race, that's when you make sure that racism gets stronger.
CamtonoOfBeskar
CamtonoOfBeskar - 9/2/2026, 10:16 AM
@Elle79 - Just because one person is afraid of spelunking and the other person isn't, but does fear large bodies of water, doesn't mean you can chuck fear of racism in as "just another one of those fears some people randomle have and others don't."

It's manufactured.

That's why racism and discrimination are so anomalous, you literally can't compare it to anything else that's out there. We all share the exact same fears, but that one.
Huskers
Huskers - 9/2/2026, 10:32 AM
@Urubrodi - Exactly! Look at Batman!
Elle79
Elle79 - 9/2/2026, 11:03 AM
@CamtonoOfBeskar - HAHAHAHAHA, what a ridiculous response. Of course you try to bend yourself into a pretzel to justify a very special kind of victimhood. I'm so glad that more people are calling out this nonsense.
CamtonoOfBeskar
CamtonoOfBeskar - 9/2/2026, 11:43 AM
@Elle79 - Just say you lack basic reasoning skills Mr. Pretzel.

It's alright.
hainesy
hainesy - 9/2/2026, 12:19 PM
@HashTagSwagg - This.
TheJackAss
TheJackAss - 9/2/2026, 1:00 PM
@Elle79 - its all victimhood on all sides
TheJackAss
TheJackAss - 9/2/2026, 1:02 PM
@90caliber - the racist woke left = very scary
Baf
Baf - 9/2/2026, 4:13 PM
@Urubrodi - That's not actually what the episode said. It presented John's family's interpretation of why Hal was chosen, based on their lived experience. Josh's irresponsibly written article then amplified that interpretation into ‘Hal is racist,’ and now everyone is arguing about a claim the episode never actually made. Shame on all of you.
Beer85
Beer85 - 9/2/2026, 5:43 AM
Thing is, this person who hosts that Podcast most likely does not read comics. The panel does not prove anything since GL saves the entire universe on a regular basis in the comics, all races and types of people included. It just says quite a lot what type of person you are when you answer in that way to a fan, instead of saying "I get what you are saying but keep watching!" or something along those lines.

The good thing that fans can take from this is that they finally know that most of these people working on these shows and movies are not fans, and they are not interested in doing the comics versions of the characters.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 9/2/2026, 5:48 AM
@Beer85 - The thing that is even more ming boggling to me at least, is that what do they think it's gonna happen after this? The bare minimum a bunch of people will stop watching the podcast (not sure if it's even watched by that many in the first place). Worst case scenario it will piss off some people that were already on the fence with this how even further making them drop it.

From all the stupid things she said, saying "DC may not be for you" is like a fireable offence if Gunn has any backbone. A brand podcast has one main mission: promote the brand.
dragon316
dragon316 - 9/2/2026, 7:44 AM
@Beer85 - anyone who brings this stuff up make false statements doesn’t read comics does Batman hate women he hits female villains
Radders
Radders - 9/2/2026, 8:43 AM
@Urubrodi - Very Kelly Sue DeConnick of her, and we all know how that turned out lol
Sounds like she needs to pay attention to Kirk Lasarus' advice
narrow290
narrow290 - 9/2/2026, 1:45 PM
@Beer85 - well said
Mercwitham0uth
Mercwitham0uth - 9/2/2026, 5:49 AM
Podcast host sounds mentally ill.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 9/2/2026, 7:03 AM
@Mercwitham0uth -
Everyone involved in the creation of Superhero media at the moment is mentally ill, with a sadistic desire to destroy what people love.
Why
Why - 9/2/2026, 5:49 AM
I'm not sure that Hal is racist. I don't think he is at all, actually. I think, even in the comics referenced, it's more an oversight/ignorance rather than coming from a place of contempt (the writers who came up with "Pieface" were probably the same- didn't see the harm- obviously that's been re-evaluated since).

In the case of the show, it's- as Josh wrote- his mother's interpretation of what has happened in the selection process for the Lanterns. It's a bit more nuanced than "you are one thing", as if often is in reality (although there is still quite a lot of racism to go around there too). Nuance doesn't get clicks though, does it.
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 9/2/2026, 6:01 AM
@Why - Yeah i don't think he's racist, I think he was written by people who were maybe a bit ignorant/unaware but this is totally a different thing.

TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/2/2026, 7:29 AM
@Why - well said…

Hal didn’t actually get the ring due to as John’s mother said “that he was privileged to not know fear” when we know the actual story.

It’s a flawed and hurt woman who had her husbands and family’s life spiral out of control saying that.

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BiffDitko
BiffDitko - 9/2/2026, 8:04 AM
@UnderBelly - Fwiw this episode was written by a black person.
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 9/2/2026, 8:13 AM
@BiffDitko - I was talking about the comics. And in the case of this episode, its exactly that, except now for the character, to show him having those blind spots like i said in a post further down.
BiffDitko
BiffDitko - 9/2/2026, 8:21 AM
@UnderBelly - Ah,Gotcha.
ClarkJoeKent
ClarkJoeKent - 9/2/2026, 8:48 AM
@UnderBelly - COPE-A-MANIA🤣😂😂
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 9/2/2026, 8:55 AM
@ClarkJoeKent - You tend to post quick one-liners, but you rarely build a solid, substantial argument to back them up.

Am I wrong?
captainwalker
captainwalker - 9/2/2026, 9:21 AM
@BiffDitko - Apparently they completely ignored statistics of B on W homicides, how about they make more of an effort at not giving people reasons for being racist.
BiffDitko
BiffDitko - 9/2/2026, 10:10 AM
@captainwalker - Apparently YOU don't need any reason at all.
captainwalker
captainwalker - 9/2/2026, 10:25 AM
@BiffDitko - Statistically, no.
ClarkJoeKent
ClarkJoeKent - 9/2/2026, 5:37 PM
@UnderBelly - I dont have to. The Argument is OVER!
Im just here to watch you COPE!😂
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 9/2/2026, 11:59 PM
@ClarkJoeKent - Seems like a well considered response.
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