THE PENGUIN Showrunner Responds To John Turturro's Claim He Didn't Reprise THE BATMAN Role Due To Violence

THE PENGUIN Showrunner Responds To John Turturro's Claim He Didn't Reprise THE BATMAN Role Due To Violence

The Penguin showrunner Lauren LeFranc has responded to The Batman star John Turturro's recent claim that he declined to return as Carmine Falcone due to the show's depiction of violence towards women.

By JoshWilding - Oct 24, 2024 06:10 AM EST
Filed Under: The Batman
Source: The Wrap

Yesterday, The Batman star John Turturro revealed that he'd declined to reprise his role as Carmine Falcone in the HBO series because it features "a lot of violence towards women, and that's not my thing."

He'd add that it "happens off-screen [in The Batman]," though it took little time for DC fans to point out his apparent hypocrisy. Not only is The Penguin's Carmine far less violent than the one seen in The Batman, but Turturro's version violently attacked and choked Selina Kyle during the movie's final act.

Now, The Penguin showrunner Lauren LeFranc has responded to Turturro's comments - as diplomatically as possible - in an interview with The Wrap

"I completely respect an actor who doesn’t want to take on a role for whatever their personal reasons," LeFranc started. "I only want people to join our show who are excited and want to further the story we’re trying to tell. I think Mark Strong did a really fantastic job. He made the character his own and also really honored what John Turturro did."

"To my knowledge it was due to scheduling conflicts," she added.

As you might expect, though, LeFranc did take some exceptions with Turturro's insinuation that The Penguin is far more violent in its depiction towards women than The Batman was. 

"Carmine in the movie killed Selina Kyle’s mother and then does try to actively kill Selina, and also kills Annika - Selina’s friend," LeFranc said. "I think it’s been established, and Matt and I are in agreement on this, that Carmine’s a very violent man and has a violent streak against women."

Ironically, after the actor said it's "scarier" for violence to happen off-screen, The Penguin's flashback episode does exactly that, revealing that Carmine killed several women and that he framed his daughter, Sofia, as Gotham City's Hangman without showing the villain on a killing spree.

Mark Strong replaced Turturro as a slightly younger version of the mobster and has been widely praised for his work in The Batman spin-off. Carmine died at the hands of The Riddler in the movie so won't be back for The Batman Part II

The Penguin's cast includes Colin Farrell (Oz Cobblepot), Cristin Milioti (Sofia Falcone), Rhenzy Feliz (Victor Aguilar), Michael Kelly (Johnny Viti), Shohreh Aghdashloo (Nadia Maroni), Deirdre O’Connell (Francis Cobb), Clancy Brown (Salvatore Maroni), James Madio (Milos Grapa), Scott Cohen (Luca Falcone), Michael Zegen (Alberto Falcone), Carmen Ejogo (Eve Karlo), and Theo Rossi (Dr. Julian Rush).

The series is executive produced by Matt Reeves, Dylan Clark, Colin Farrell, Lauren LeFranc, who writes and serves as showrunner, Craig Zobel, who directs the first three episodes, and Bill Carraro.

Based on characters created for DC by Bob Kane with Bill Finger, The Penguin is produced by Reeves' 6th & Idaho Productions and Dylan Clark Productions in association with Warner Bros. Television, where Reeves and 6th & Idaho are under an overall deal. Daniel Pipski also serves as executive producer.

The first five episodes of The Penguin are now streaming on Max.

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Mugens
Mugens - 10/24/2024, 6:30 AM
Been a long time admirer of John's acting in various movies, but yeah that excuse is a tad bit on the weak side.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/24/2024, 1:24 PM
@Mugens - Is it an excuse or is it a reason
jst5
jst5 - 10/24/2024, 7:10 PM
@dagenspear - You can't be this naive....
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 10/24/2024, 6:38 AM
Turturro blurted out the first excuse that came to his mind (coulda just said the truth?) and that shit was lame af.
Thing94
Thing94 - 10/24/2024, 6:40 AM
Nice swing and a miss there eh, John?

Mark Strong did a fine job.
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 10/24/2024, 6:53 AM
LeFranc to the rescue!
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/24/2024, 1:33 PM
@FrankenDad - LeFranc should be writing The Batman 2 not Reeves.
thedrudo
thedrudo - 10/24/2024, 6:56 AM
Does he explain why he first took the gig to begin with?
SDCA27
SDCA27 - 10/24/2024, 6:59 AM
meanwhile his character tried to choke Selina out with a pool stick in the Batman. Dude has always been so full of himself and Mark Strong handled it.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/24/2024, 1:22 PM
@SDCA27 - why is it being full of yourself to decline a story for preference reasons
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/24/2024, 7:37 AM
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HermanM
HermanM - 10/24/2024, 7:50 AM
@harryba11zack - This is a perfect looking bat suit
MahN166A
MahN166A - 10/24/2024, 9:07 AM
@harryba11zack -

Where is this from?
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/24/2024, 9:56 AM
@MahN166A - joker 2
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DrDReturns
DrDReturns - 10/24/2024, 11:07 AM
@harryba11zack - Love how the penguin is smoking too haha!
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 10/24/2024, 12:52 PM
@MahN166A - AI.
MahN166A
MahN166A - 10/24/2024, 3:21 PM
@MaxPaint -

Certainly had me fooled. That was one of the better AI clips I have seen that wasn't a dead giveaway.
HermanM
HermanM - 10/24/2024, 7:50 AM
Carmine is barely in this show anyway
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 10/24/2024, 8:00 AM
First of all, this is Gotham city, my guy. Violence against everyone is kind of the whole thing. But second and most important of all, your characters entire arc was violence towards women. This is the flimsiest weak sauce excuse I’ve heard in a while.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/24/2024, 1:21 PM
@FireandBlood - But he only had one scene of it. Maybe he didn't want to do it again, if he's being honest here
Forthas
Forthas - 10/24/2024, 8:12 AM
This is a wierd conversation! John Turturro does not have to explain why he did not come back. But since he didi, the reason he is giving is lame. Mark strong did a great job as always. However Theo Rossi would have physically been a better stand in for a younger Carmine Falcone.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/24/2024, 1:20 PM
@Forthas - Why is it a problem
Forthas
Forthas - 10/24/2024, 1:27 PM
@dagenspear - It is not a problem I am just saying what I would have done differently. Does not make the show any better or worse.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 10/24/2024, 9:19 AM
Funny the dude who plays the Jesus is worried about violence. Go figure.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 10/24/2024, 9:24 AM
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TheJester187
TheJester187 - 10/24/2024, 9:48 AM
Get em outta here!!
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 10/24/2024, 9:55 AM
I could never take John Turturro seriously as an actor. Mark Strong is by far better.
MahN166A
MahN166A - 10/24/2024, 3:21 PM
@harryba11zack -

Joker 2 certainly was AI, wasn't it.
JayLemle
JayLemle - 10/24/2024, 11:29 AM
The Transformers movies, although siding with the good guys, was CGI violence. The Spike Lee Joint from 1994 called "Clockers" centered around violence. Shit, I think Tuturro even made a couple Black jokes using Italian slang.

C'mon, Tuturro! Get it together, man.
LogansRazor
LogansRazor - 10/24/2024, 1:02 PM
Maybe he is misquoted. The reason he didn't come back is because the violence IS OFF SCREEN on the show...and he not cool with that. He wants that close up and personal violence.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 10/24/2024, 1:23 PM
Some here, to me, are having needless reactions over a nothing issue.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 10/24/2024, 1:35 PM
I'm really only mad because he was so good in the role and I wanted him back. I like Mark Strong as an actor, but his Falcone didn't come close to Turturro's. He just had that perfect mix between powerful and snaky.
toylled
toylled - 10/24/2024, 3:47 PM
Told ya! Cos he was doing Severance S2
Chris827
Chris827 - 10/24/2024, 9:47 PM
Maybe I'm forgetting or missed it but isnt he in one episode flashback and doesnt even do any violence to anyone in the show. Yeah they say he's one who killed the girls and his wife and then pinned it on the daughter but I dont recall them even showing him doing anything.

And isnt it just one episode so far? He couldnt come back to do a cameo for an episode and fit it in? He clearly just didnt want to be in the show for whatever his reasons but the reasons given seem weak.

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