Warner Bros. Insiders Reportedly Believe ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE "Never Should've Happened"

Warner Bros. Insiders Reportedly Believe ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE "Never Should've Happened"

Warner Bros. clearly believed that Zack Snyder's Justice League would placate the director's loyal fanbase, but after it seemingly had the opposite effect, the studio reportedly regrets releasing the film.

By MarkCassidy - Aug 29, 2022 08:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

After years of campaigning, the #ReleaseTheSnyderCut movement finally paid off when Warner Bros. debuted a 4-hour director's cut of Justice League on HBO Max last year, but the move didn't exactly have the desired effect.

Although the filmmaker's dedicated fanbase were delighted to see the "Snyder Cut," its release did little to placate his followers. In fact, if anything, it only made them even more adamant that the "SnyderVerse" should be fully restored.

Now, it's come to light that the decision to release the restored version of Justice League has come to be viewed as a mistake by studio higher-ups.

In Variety's piece on Warner Bros. Discover CEO David Zaslav's search for a "Kevin Feige-type" to run the DC Film and TV divisions, it's mentioned that insiders "have lamented that “Zack Snyder’s Justice League” never should’ve happened. Rather than quiet the unceasing online campaigning to #ReleasetheSnyderCut, the four-hour HBO Max feature only further entrenched the vocal and extremely online “Snyderverse” fanbase in opposition to the leadership at the studio in general and at DC in particular."

While there is undoubtedly some truth to this, WBD hasn't exactly done itself any favors with its more recent actions! Cancelling Batgirl may have saved the studio a few dollars, but it cost them a lot of good will and potentially severed relationships with talent. Possibly even more detrimental was the handling of the Ezra Miller situation.

With any luck, the recent hiring of Dan Lin as new DC chief will go some way towards turning things around and giving the DCEU (or whatever it winds up being referred to) some much-needed structure while also doing what he can to shine a more positive light on the studio.

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amesjazz
amesjazz - 8/29/2022, 8:05 PM
I campaigned hard for the Snydercut. I got it and freakin loved it. But it's definitely time to move on. WB just needs to stop for a few years and figure out what the hell they are doing.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/29/2022, 10:28 PM
@amesjazz - I appreciate that your post, to me, is moreso replying to the content of the article. I've seen some not doing that and moreso talking about how WB is bad or whatever.
bcom
bcom - 8/30/2022, 12:45 AM
@amesjazz - This is probably the most level headed response I have heard from any fan of Snyder's DC films... and I 100% agree with you.

Regardless if you wanted Snyder's cut or not, it is time for WB/DC and Snyder fans to move on. WB need to give us a cohesive, well planned and thought out DC movie universe.

I always felt like WB rushed into it with BvS and then JL. It didn't feel right and personally, I felt like I was getting too different a take on DC's flagship characters. The fact that we were getting a 'Dark Knight Returns' aged Batman before the JL is even formed felt off to me and I really didn't like the BvS Superman. He was brooding, insecure and almost ashamed of who he was which is literally the opposite of how Superman should be. Again, this is just my personal take.

Anyway, lets hope that something actually worthwhile comes out of this sh*tshow that WB are going through at the moment.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 8/30/2022, 1:36 AM
@amesjazz - it sucked hard! I mean it really blew. Worst than Thor Love and Thunder and Batman and Robin. Good lord it was shit.
Dannywest
Dannywest - 8/29/2022, 8:05 PM
It's better than the whedon cut in Some aspects but thats not saying much, snyder had the benefit of hindsight and a 4 hour runtine,
TheLobster
TheLobster - 8/29/2022, 9:01 PM
@Dannywest - regardless, it’s still the better film with a better story that was already baked in (such as Cyborg’s arc) long before that hack Whedon came on.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/29/2022, 10:04 PM
@TheLobster - @TheLobster - But in hindsight both films still told the same story. All Whedon did was trim all the fat and make it more stupid fun like the worst MCU movies. We didn't need that extra 2 hrs of set up, extended scenes, knightmare sequences, or origin for any of the JL members becuz WB was going to give them all solo films anyway which would have retold it anyway. Despite ZSJL's 4hr runtime it was still incomplete because Snyder still had to use chapter inserts to make up for the fact he never shot any transition scenes of how the JL members traveled onto different sets.

Not saying Whedon's cut is better because it is worst but to me Whedon's cut just flowed better because it was edited more tightly to follow JL's simple plot.
Manmarvel
Manmarvel - 8/29/2022, 10:07 PM
@Dannywest - let's face it though a Whedon cut or a Snyder cut was bound to be better than the mixed up mess of having two directors with two different visions being mashed together.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 8/29/2022, 10:17 PM
@mastakilla39 - Whedon actually improved Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Batman as characters and actually made their motivations logical. The only thing Snyder did better was Cyborg. Whedon's film had an overall theme to it as well. His framing of everything under fear helped explain why they needed Superman back, how Batman and Wonder Woman was acting and so on. It thematically made more sense.

This video is long, but once you start it you'll get sucked in for a while.

dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/29/2022, 10:24 PM
@TheLobster - Not what I call a better story. A story that had some stronger parts, but not really better, to me.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/29/2022, 10:27 PM
@Itwasme - Parts may be improved, maybe. But that doesn't mean the Whedon movie is tonally, structurally or character wise consistent.

I think Mauler is too anal and nitpicky.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 8/29/2022, 10:38 PM
@dagenspear - he is, but lots of the character stuff is pretty spot on. He highlights how Whedon tried to improve the film from a structural and character driven stand point.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 8/29/2022, 10:41 PM
@dagenspear - I agree totally its off, but Whedon does improves the films structure with a central theme and character motivations driven by the theme.

I honestly don't think people remembered the Whedon cut all that well, and the mustache was actually a huge deal because it was hard to get past that. If he had the same time and money they gave Snyder for his cut, I have no doubt he'd have made a better film.
Dannywest
Dannywest - 8/29/2022, 11:40 PM
@Manmarvel - thats for sure, whedon wanted to make a film akin to the mcu ones he Made and that clashed with the style snyder already set up
Dannywest
Dannywest - 8/29/2022, 11:43 PM
@TheLobster - which isnt saying much, and i don't think whedon was a hack, the guy was called to finish a film that he didnt start and had no input in any of it's creative process while trying to infuse his style in a story that is far from that style
Blahsketcase94
Blahsketcase94 - 8/30/2022, 12:18 AM
@TheLobster - The man who did Buffy, Angel, Firefly and successfuly delivered the Avengers is not a hack, regardless of how shitty a person they may be.
Blahsketcase94
Blahsketcase94 - 8/30/2022, 12:18 AM
@mastakilla39 - JL was worse than even the worst MCU movie, cmon now. But I much preferred the Superman in it to the superpowers thug in the Snydercut.
bcom
bcom - 8/30/2022, 1:30 AM
@Itwasme - Apart from the weird mouth/moustache thing, Whedon got Superman a lot more right than Snyder did that's for sure.
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 8/30/2022, 1:37 AM
@TheLobster - no. It's like the difference between diahrea shit and hard shit. Both were shit.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 8/29/2022, 8:05 PM
"Reeeeeeee how dare they say that"
A>E
newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/29/2022, 8:06 PM
The old regime still giving out hit pieces? Lol
TheSuerJackAss
TheSuerJackAss - 8/29/2022, 8:14 PM
@newmutantsRETURNS - Walter Hamada & Jim Lee are still there
TheSuerJackAss
TheSuerJackAss - 8/29/2022, 8:15 PM
@newmutantsRETURNS - Also if Dan Lin really is in charge now he is no Snyder fan either & called his fans bots
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 8/29/2022, 9:50 PM
@newmutantsRETURNS - lol that’s what it looks like
newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/30/2022, 10:13 AM
@TheJackAss - Hamada is gone in a few months, most likely with a nice payout
newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/30/2022, 10:22 AM
@TheJackAss - its obvious you didnt hear the actual interview/podcast, it was more funny sarcasm between the two, Lin was one the original producers that got Ayer's Suicide Squad up and running, so im sure he has a good relationship with the original dceu creators.


newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/30/2022, 10:26 AM
@TheJackAss - Jim Lee? lol he had no say in the film division whatsoever but his days are numbered in the comics area as DC's sales have tanked hard sine Dark Metal...the only comics that sell are anything Batman related, which is a shame cause the Superman WarWorld storyline is GREAT
TheSuerJackAss
TheSuerJackAss - 8/30/2022, 10:27 AM
@newmutantsRETURNS - So hes also responsible for the mess that is Suicide Squad ? Great just great
TheSuerJackAss
TheSuerJackAss - 8/30/2022, 10:28 AM
@newmutantsRETURNS - Expect bad Batman sales sooner rather than later with what they have been teasing lately
newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/30/2022, 10:35 AM
@TheJackAss - Facts ! I know exactly what you are referring LOL
TheSuerJackAss
TheSuerJackAss - 8/30/2022, 10:35 AM
@newmutantsRETURNS - What they did with Jon was a smashing success so lets Quad Triple Down in that area
newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/30/2022, 10:36 AM
@TheJackAss - nah he was involved initially then dropped out to handle the Lego Movie project
newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/30/2022, 10:37 AM
@TheJackAss - LOl Blame Bendis for that screwup
TheSuerJackAss
TheSuerJackAss - 8/30/2022, 10:38 AM
@newmutantsRETURNS - I thought we blame the other guy that left suddenly at the beginning of the year before the sale was final
newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/30/2022, 10:40 AM
@TheJackAss - but Jon is not involved with that story, Clark and The Authority battling Mongul and getting their asses handed to them is one of the best Supes stories in decades...certainly recommend it
TheSuerJackAss
TheSuerJackAss - 8/30/2022, 10:41 AM
@newmutantsRETURNS - No no at the beginning of the year a CEO or whatever that was high up left named Daniel Cherry III. He shows up about two years ago & we got what we ended up getting. But leaves suddenly before the Discovery deal was finalized
TheSuerJackAss
TheSuerJackAss - 8/30/2022, 10:44 AM
@newmutantsRETURNS - & I gave up on main stream comics. A lot of my habits changed since the first time main stream went woke. Every once in a while we get something like Shattered Grid. But mainly my main stream days are done now. Especially with the big two
newmutantsRETURNS
newmutantsRETURNS - 8/30/2022, 10:55 AM
@TheJackAss - agree, the big 2 are lacking creativity these days, been reading alot of Indie stuff...right now, Spawn titles, Undiscovered Country & Dept of Truth is what im pulling these days

Marvel's Darth Vader books are pretty good tho
MadThanos
MadThanos - 8/29/2022, 8:06 PM
Varity keeps whining.

I loved it.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/29/2022, 10:23 PM
@MadThanos - Is what they're doing much different than taking issue with them for it?
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