EDITORIAL: The Best Way for Spider-Man to Exist in the MCU, is to Have A Spider-MEN Series.

EDITORIAL: The Best Way for Spider-Man to Exist in the MCU, is to Have A Spider-MEN Series.

So will they or won't they? Sony has us frustrated with the rumors of including Spider-Man in the MCU. Well what if they do come to terms? Maybe they should avoid the Big Screen with another rebooted Spider-Man and stick to having Spider-MEN on tv! What do I mean? Click the jump to find out!

Editorial Opinion
By AontheheadStarontheChest - Jan 15, 2015 04:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man



Same Parker Luck, Different Face

Look up and take a gander at all those Spider - Men over the years. Different Interpretations, different voices, different suits and looks, but all the same essence of Peter Parker / Spider - Man.

After the Sony hacks, we all had high hopes that one day a bonafide official MCU Spider-Man would be added to that list of ever - growing Spider - Men. Rumours say its confirmed and that he's a done deal for Avengers 3. Others say that’s just a rumour and don't buy into as Sony has denied all those talks as being confirmed. 

But because of all these Spider - Men, it got me looking at to what Marvel has been doing with Spider-Man where they DO have control of him. You know, the comics, games, and animated series.

All of them have one thing in common:

Multi Verse Spider - Men



Here have a look at it all

The Games:




The Comics:


The Animated Series:






So what am I getting at? Marvel has always been showing us, even most recently that there have always been more than one Peter Parker and that they exist in more than one universe.  And looking at Marvel Studio's upcoming slate, one movie comes to mind when dealing with alternate universes. That movie is none other than....



What if after establishing the multi-verse in that film, Marvel and Sony come to terms and make a tv series instead of a movie?

Bringing the Web Head Home

We all know Marvel wants a new young Spider - Man to fill in the shoes so we're looking at *sigh* another reboot. But is it really necessary? Don't get me wrong, a Web-head MCU version would be awesome but the Avengers and Marvel don't really need him. After Sony's latest entry into their Amazing Spider - Man Series, I think people have had enough of Sony's "Untold Story". Having Spider-Man in the MCU but under Marvel direction would be awesome and I'd love to see their take on him. But we just have to accept the fact this all his to do with business and money with Sony, not what the fans want.

Well I'm here to propose a new idea that honours what Sony did from Raimi's and Tobey's Spider - Man (still the best live action Spider-Man to me) to what Webb and Andrew Garfield tried to accomplish with their take while still giving the fans something new. Granted this idea only works if Sony and Marvel come to an agreement, and I propose they do a TV series ala Netflix or stick it on ABC. But do all this after the Dr. Strange movie, you'll see why in a bit.

Marvel will heading up the Defenders on Netflix starting with Daredevil, and an MCU Spider-Man could definitely use a serialized format. If they're sticking with his teenager days and him growing up learning his powers along with life lessons he'll need to become the Spider-Man we all know, then a longer narrative will be needed.

With the success of Arrow and Flash on tv, considering a tv budget, they could also do a weekly Spider-Man with good production values. It would be best though to keep Spider-Man a street level hero, and not have too many tie-ins with Agents of SHIELD, at least not right away. MCU Spider-Man series would need to stand on its own two feet before dipping into the bigger MCU Pool. Who knows, maybe Sony could make a deal where it could be streamed from Sony devices like the PS4, Vita, or Xperia Smartphones.

Considering another reboot and rehash of old stories, they should just jump into the series and hit the ground running. What do I mean? Skip showing the full origin, and skip the full Uncle Ben's death scene (not altogether mind you, you'll see what I mean in a bit) and just have him in high school as a developing Spider-Man right off the bat. But DO tell those stories in flashback glimpses ala Arrow / Flash and pepper them throughout the season. 

Start the episode with an intro, a quick story of his background and some flashbacks and cutscenes just like how Arrow and Flash's openings start up? Don't believe me? Check this out:



But Imagine it as Spider - Man swinging through the city going like this:

"Hi, my name is Peter Parker, I was once your average every-day teen until one day I was bitten by a radioactive Spider. I changed and developed strange abilities. I used to use them for fun and made a mistake that cost my Uncle his life, but before my Uncle Ben died, he told me with Great Power Comes Great Responsibility. Now, I'm making it up to him as your Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man!"

Now here's the kicker, since Dr. Strange will deal with alternate dimensions, that element should be brought on the show. At the same time Peter is in high school, introduce Madame Web and hint that he isn't the only Spider-Man that’s; ever existed. They could use old clips from the Spider Man movies of Tobey and Andrew to show him, which will have validated the Sony movies somewhat and a sort of passing of the torch to the MCU. It could be a good explanation to the general audience who isn't really aware of the Studio rights, etc. as to why another Spider-Man story is happening but different from the movies. They can have Madame Web be a sort of advisor and guardian as he grows to be Spider-Man and prepare him for a bigger villain like Morlun or the Spider Hunters or even Venom/Carnage. This way they can keep it contained and give Spider-Man his own little world within the greater MCU. 

And here's the twist. Introduce Miles Morales in the series as well, as a friend and student of Midtown High. But not shown as Spider-Man, well at least not right away.

He could become a Spider-Man who was brought by Madame Web in secret to watch over Peter. As the Peter of Miles Morale's Universe was killed.

Over the series they could have different Spider - Men (Spider - Women, Gals, and even the Pigs, Monkeys, whatever) drop in the series and he could visit their universes. This could show why he hasn't been so prominent in the MCU, because well he wasn't been hero-ing in THIS universe to begin with if he's out helping in others!












So Who Inherits the Web Shooters and Mask?

Obviously Marvel will be updating or creating a new suit altogether to differentiate it with the Sony films, but here's hoping they get the big old red back spider this time. And get it the right shape!

But who gets to be the next Spidey? I'll end this article with two fancasts. Let's start with Miles.

Donald Glover! Seriously if you have to ask then you'd have to be living under a rock... but anyway...

A fan suggested he audition for the role in Amazing Spider-Man which (eventually went to Andrew Garfield) and the campaign #donald4spiderman went viral.

A year later, Miles Morales appeared and comic writer Brian Michael Bendis acknowledges that Donald influenced his look. And now Donald Glover voices Miles Morales in the Ultimate Spider Man animated series. So having him jump to live action would be something welcome by the comic's community (see what I did there).

And for the coveted role of Parker?

This isn't an original pick either, as I've seen others mention him as well. I've recently seen the Maze Runner, and I might now try watching Teen Wolf the series.

This one goes to: 

Dylan O'brien!
He's got the Peter Parker look down. He can prove to be sincere and heroic in scenes, while still showing his vulnerability. And with the Maze Runner he proved he could lead an action series if ever Marvel decide to bring him in after an Avengers 3 for a solo film.














Well that was a long article, thanks for sticking with me.

And to Sony, here are my parting words... 

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nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 1/15/2015, 5:12 AM
Tobey as the best live action spiderman? He barely acted like a person. He's always stuck as a marshmallow. He barely cracked jokes nor acted better in the suit. I pity anyone who consider him the best. Andrew is the best spidey and Peter to date.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 1/15/2015, 5:34 AM
It's an interesting concept but it might be really difficult to pull off. My best option would be to use Gwen Stacey as Spider-Gwen in the MCU.
HulkOnion
HulkOnion - 1/15/2015, 5:37 AM
He was a good Parker.
He was a bad Spidey. ^^^^
TheEpicJuicebox
TheEpicJuicebox - 1/15/2015, 7:37 AM
Sony should do a spider verse movie if the rights end up staying
tokens
tokens - 1/15/2015, 8:25 AM
... I posted a comment saying exactly this.

..but I guess no one pays attention to my ideas...



... they just look at my face and laugh.
tokens
tokens - 1/15/2015, 8:31 AM
@nuyhm7ai

idk what "stuck as a marshmallow" means.. but it sounds positive because marshmallows are delicious and smell like heaven.
and tobey did crack Some jokes, but it was a long time ago man (and he didn't Write the damn movie) before superheroes on film were looked at with respect. (although I could argue SM/SM2 slightly changed that, with TDK and iron man solidifying it)
I liked him better than Garfield, but we've only had 2 peters,
its not like the 6 batmen we've had that we can really pick and compare.
so I guess what im saying is, ur user name is confusing and im hungry.
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 1/15/2015, 10:46 AM
No...sorry, well written, but i don't agree, the only thing i could see would be give peter his own movie series and then give miles a netflix series. But even that would be a stretch
McGee
McGee - 1/15/2015, 10:46 AM
nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 1/15/2015, 11:43 AM
@cinnamon tobey cracked small jokes that felt forced and didn't feel convincing enough even with that cheap look costume of his. Garfield on the other hand manage to pull off some quips and everything. he's also shown to be a flawed parker as in more human. he wasn't much of a dick as everyone kept saying. besides peter in the comics has done worse shit than him.

@Mrcool no, peter needs to have his own show. rebooting him again with another movie is just tiresome. let's just let Garfield reprise his role for season 1 for the next 22 episodes and show the people the entire mythos no one has known about. miles comes later.
kong
kong - 1/15/2015, 3:22 PM
I actually really like this idea, but Donald Glover will be 32 in 8 months so.....
ToxicCap
ToxicCap - 1/15/2015, 8:42 PM
Gambino as Miles Morales?!
nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 1/16/2015, 3:47 AM
i believe webb's spiderman did have the parker luck. the ultimate version didn't have one
nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 1/16/2015, 5:20 AM
Indeed. While I love Webb and garfield in spiderman I hope they stay far away from oscorp and the pare ts because spiderman should be having his solo run and more serielized especially with andrew garfield because he does a great job portraying the post ditko and romita version. Him interacting with Charlie cox and jk Simmons would be a treat :)
nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 1/16/2015, 5:20 AM
He also should not be an avenger. He was pointless there and it's an overhyped concept
McGee
McGee - 1/16/2015, 11:00 AM
A superhero show not on the CW?

It can't be done....it's never been done!
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 1/16/2015, 4:47 PM
@BlackestKnight

Tobey Maguire = Peter Parker

Andrew Garfield = Spider-Man
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 1/16/2015, 5:36 PM
@cinnamon - "... I posted a comment saying exactly this."

You too?? SAME!!

Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Disney/Marvel already own the live-action TV rights to Spider-Man?? Couldn't they do this if they wanted to??

Spider-Man is the most profitable comic book character despite the underwhelming success of the Amazing Spider-Man movies.*

If I'm Disney/Marvel, I'd make a live-action "Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" series on ABC. Being a major network ABC can reach a larger audience of potential viewers and since Disney owns ABC they can market/promote it same as they do SHIELD/Agent Carter.

If Joss Whedon is not busy helping write and work on all the MCU projects and if he's interested, I'd hire him to be the showrunner. Whether Whedon is onboard or not, I'd see if the Russo brothers are available/interested, in being Executive Producers and occasional directors.
(it'd be great if the Russo brothers could be co-showrunners, but I assume they'll be too busy "Civil War" and possibly "Infinity War" movies. And personally, like @AontheheadStarontheChest mentioned, if the Russos are involved I hope they reunite with Donald Glover and have him play Miles Morales. For the same reason as above, to avoid confusing with Peter Parker being apart of SONY movies and in the event Disney/Marvel retain the film rights they would then have two Spider-Man, Peter Parker in the movies and Miles Morales on TV.)

One possible concern for a live-action Spider-Man series is Spider-Man is almost entirely vFX/CGI, which means a bigger budget and I assume more time for said vFX/CGI. Flash has shown you don't need a movie or HBO budget for good-great sFX/CGI. However, Spider-Man would likely require more vFX/CGI than Flash, The good news is Spider-Man can pay for itself and Disney is not strapped for cash.

One potential benefit for Disney/Marvel is what if their live-action Spider-Man series, looks better and is better received than SONY's Spider-Man movies?!? It could push the issue for SONY to negotiate a deal to sell the film rights back to Disney/Marvel. If that happens, then the live-action series should benefit Disney/Marvel because they would already have an good understanding of Spider-Man and how best to translate what they've done with the series onto the big screen. Of course there is the real possibility that the live-action series could be better than their movies, just like it was better than SONY's. But I believe that'd be a risk Disney/Marvel and their fans would be willing to take.

*


And sorry for being so verbose, I guess should've just written my own and first post, hahaha. I hope it all makes sense and y'all like.
staypuffed
staypuffed - 1/16/2015, 6:17 PM
@MightyZeus
"My best option would be to use Gwen Stacy as Spider-Gwen in the MCU."


That. Is. Amazing.
Do it, Marvel.
nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 1/17/2015, 4:33 AM
what makes you think maguiore captured peter? peter never stayed an inept loser who mumbles and is monotounous at the same time. he barely gained confidence. andrew's peter parker did and acted more and more like a person and was never this bad boy staker dude everyone claimed him to be nor this twilight guy. people really need to look into the new series more. hell, peter has done stupid and irresponsible stuff that makes him a jerk all the time. edge of time is a prime example of showing us who peter parker really is.
imkennypowers
imkennypowers - 1/17/2015, 9:02 AM
@dethpillow

THANKS!

Seems like an interesting/confusing situation. haha I would assume TV rights is all-encompassing but I could be wrong. Look at the odd situation with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch being in both Disney/Marvel and FOX films, but Disney/Marvel are not allowed to refer to them as mutants and they can not mention who their father is. hahaha

And you have to assume the details and stipulations for Spider-Man's rights are lengthier than most. Spidey is Marvel's biggest money maker after all. Hell, if I'm reading that chart right Spider-Man makes more money than Batman, Superman AND the Avengers COMBINE!!!!
nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 1/17/2015, 11:14 AM
No, tobey stayed an inept loser. Andrew barely mumbles
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