Saturday Morning Match-Up: Black Widow vs Black Canary.

Fenix122 and JuggyPunch have put their minds together to come out with a fair and objective outcome to various popular battles. There will be a fight every Saturday morning, and after we weigh both sides of the equation we give you our official verdict.

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By GuardianDevil - Apr 27, 2013 12:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic
Source: Fenix122 & JuggyPunch

Greetings to all, seeing as I usually skip the battle poll on Saturdays. JuggyPunch emailed me and suggested we also do a weekly match up where we put our heads together and come up with a logical, fair and objective conclusion on various popular match-ups. Today we started with Black Canary vs Black Widow, so without further ado:



Black Canary and Black Widow, they're the femme fatales of the Avengers and the Justice League. Both girlfriends of our favorite archers and both could (and have) beat the snot out of our favorite archers. But, what if they fought each other? Who would be the victor? Allow me to give you proper information on both characters as well as explain and give our official verdict on how the battle would end.




First, let's take a look at Black Widow. She's arguably the most lethal human female in the Marvel Universe (Elektra is the other one, Elektra's a better fighter but not as skilled in weapons, espionage, etc.) and is a master martial artist on par with maybe Bucky in terms of pure martial ability. Widow has also received numerous augmentations increasing her strength to peak for a female human. (roughly 500 lbs) Black Widow also is one of, if not THE world's greatest spy. She has all types of espionage, stealth, hacking skills, etc. Black Widow is also a very good tactician in her own right. She also carries numerous weapons like pistols and grenades as well as her secret weapon, the stingers.



With that said, now let's take a look at Black Canary. Black Canary is the JLA's femme fatale, she too is a master martial artist herself. Not only that, she's one of the best fighters in the DC universe. Almost on par with the likes of Shiva and Batman. Black Canary works out too, and if I remember correctly she can lift twice her body weight. (roughly 300 lbs) Canary is also a master tactician herself, and a great leader which is why she was one the chairwoman of the JLA. Canary also has a metahuman super scream dubbed the "canary cry" which has shown capable of shattering skulls.



The breakdown:

Now, this would be an epic battle. Both are master fighters and tacticians and both have different advantages over each other. We agreed that Black Canary is superior martially over Black Widow who is no slouch, it's not by much and Widow would hold her own but Canary if I remember correctly was in the top 7 fighters in the DC universe and can hold her own against those in the top 3 or 4. Black Widow on the other hand, would be lucky to make top ten. I could see it being argued that Widow's top ten in Marvel, but there are many arguments other wise. However, we both agreed that Black Widow outclasses Canary in raw physicality. Widow can lift roughly 500 lbs while Canary can lift roughly 300 lbs. It's not by much, but Widow obviously is superior physically. Now, as for their weapons Widow is superior in the long range weapons and munitions, but Canary has the nullifying scream. 



The verdict:
Through and through, the both of us agreed that although Widow is superior physically. Canary's superior martial arts skills would tip the scales in her favor. And while Widow is better with the guns, Canary has the canary cry which more than makes up for Widow's munitions. Giving Black Canary the win 7 times out of 10.

The winner:


BLACK CANARY.


Thanks for your time, go ahead and sound off your opinions in the comments and please suggest another match for us to break down.
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Minato
Minato - 4/27/2013, 8:44 AM
I agree 100%
Who are the 7 martial artist better than her in DC?
Senseii, Shiva, Batman, Deathstroke, Richard Dragon, Bonze Tiger, and Cassie Cain?
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/27/2013, 9:54 AM
@Hush2010

I think the top 7 in DCU are...

(no order)
Deathstroke
Lady Shiva
Batman
Batgirl (Cain)
Bronze Tiger
Richard Dragon
Black Canary

Then add Connor Hawke, Ra's Al Ghul and Senseii to make a top ten. (not too keen on knowledge on Senseii, but I'm pretty sure he's a top ten)

GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/27/2013, 9:56 AM
LikeI said Canary is definitely top 7 martial artists in her universe. While I think it'd be a real stretch to say Widow is even top 10.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/27/2013, 10:00 AM
@worldbreaker
I understand your point. What we were saying was that long range Canary would win due to scream. But then if it went h2h Canary is pound for pound a better fighter than Widow. Giving her the win there as well.
LoudLon
LoudLon - 4/27/2013, 4:06 PM
I think Widow's the better athlete and martial artist; witness Widow's achievements during her frequent appearances throughout the 1980s (especially in Daredevil) and you'll witness a woman who rightly deserves the title of the most lethal human female in the MU. This would be before any enhancements that I'm aware of, and she was dropping members of The Hand like they weren't even there, decimating entire gangs. Above and beyond anything Elektra ever did back in the day. I'd put Widow #1 best female h2h fighter in the MU, any ol' day of the week. Second place I'd give to Mockingbird; Elektra might crack the top five, maybe.

Black Canary I consider a less capable fighter, and less skilled in the use of firearms and weaponry than Widow. I think Shiva is a better fighter, as is Huntress (Helena Bertinelli). Not saying she's not good, but I'd put her more around Elektra's level than I would Widow's in terms of raw fighting ability. But I do agree that her canary cry gives her a clear cut advantage. If she gets within Widow's reach or line of fire, she's toast; but if she can avoid Widow's firearms and stay out of arm's length, she'd tear Widow up with the screech.

Of course, that would be on a first encounter. Widow would know what to expect the next time and would come prepared for the screech with some kind of high tech SHIELD aural protection of some sort.

My two cents.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/27/2013, 8:59 PM
^^
Just outta curiousity, when did Huntress become a better martial artist than Canary?? Huntress is my number 1 favorite female character of all time and I don't recall that. It was always my understanding that as far as girls go Canary was the best in DC aside from Cassie Cain and MAYBE Shiva.
Minato
Minato - 4/27/2013, 9:18 PM
@Fenix112
Senseii destroyed Batman in "The Return of Ras Al Ghul" and the Senseii is Ras father

I think hes a better martial artist than Canary but Helen isn't.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/27/2013, 9:21 PM
^^
Ah, I see. Well I guess I should've said top 8.
LoudLon
LoudLon - 4/28/2013, 5:16 AM
Notice I said Helena Bertinelli-Huntress, who's my favorite version of the character. Batman himself called HB Huntress too dangerous and deadly. Can't recall him saying anything like that about BC off-hand.
relentless1
relentless1 - 4/28/2013, 5:48 PM
id like to go on record and say that canary is third best female martial artist at best, behind shiva and cassandra cain and i think her and widow are on par h2h...canarys got more skill while widows got the enhancements, id give this one to canary as well due to that scream of hers
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/29/2013, 12:11 AM
@LoudLon
Yes, I understood. Helena is my fav femme fatale of all time, but I just can't see her being better martially than Canary. Verbal claims need to be taken with a grain of salt because there have been numerous claims about characters which have been proven untrue. Like for example, Namor states Daredevil is THE greatest human level fighter on the planet. Namor said no such thing about Captain America. But, what happened when those two fought? Cap won, and he put the real hurt on DD who actually tried to just run away.

Or, Fury once said that Gambit is one of the best h2h fighters on the planet. I'm sure I could name at least ten if not twenty that are better than Remy.

What I'm getting at is that verbal claims should be taken with a grain of salt, unless there is feats to back it up.

GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 4/29/2013, 12:22 AM
Side Note: gotta disagree about your opinion of Elektra. She takes out Hand ninjas all the time too just like Widow does. People underestimate her as a fighter because the only style she knows that is specified is Ninjitsu, but the Hand trained in at least 10+ martial arts styles overall. Just all of them except Ninjitsu are extremely obscure and are not specified. She held her own with Bullseye even if she did lose eventually. Held her own with Wolverine even when he wasn't holding back granted it was only for a short time. I'd put her just a hair above Widow.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 4/29/2013, 1:51 AM
Canary's scream is always a deal closer in a human level match-up with no prior knowledge.
JuggyPunch
JuggyPunch - 4/29/2013, 3:13 PM
So, whadd'yall think shoud be the next match for us to analyse?
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