STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Director Rian Johnson Explains Why He Chose Not To Reveal More About Snoke

@G - a competent filmmaker just gave you a valid explanation which you can politely disagree with. but no, he is a liar because you know better.
sure, dislike the movie if you want, but to say rian johsnon lacked imagination, and refused to think about snokes backstory during the entire preproduction/production period, just stinks of entitled, know-it-all, toxic, fanboysim.

@G - I guess you can’t read very well.

Do you really think a professional storyteller couldn’t come up with some backstory for an evil emperor? Lol.

@Canon108 - yes, i liked his other movies, and thought this one was great (flawed, but still great). 40min subplot had its moments, but ultimately, didnt work. i didnt say the movie was flawless. i understand people who say it kinda ruined the experience for them. it's a valid complaint and a matter of taste. all cool.
i dont see how this negated things that came before. i see it as evolving the franchise. cant think of anything contradictory. also, what groundwork? also, there's still a movie left in the trilogy.

@right - i will do you the honor of being respectful, something you are clearly incapable of doing, judging by your comment below.

i'm not defensive, i acknowledge the flaws and respect that there are people who wanted something different. ultimately, good far outweighed the bad for me. for some people it's the opposite.

what i am against, and what absolutely disgusts me, is the toxic atmosphere on forum, fansites etc.

the attitude that 'if you like it, you're not a real fan'.
i find that to be immature and stupid.

@EskimoJ - I don’t go to church.

@G - Preach brother... He's like, let an anthology film, comics or tv series deal with that... WTH!!! You know what was not needed? The casino planet scenes. Could've left that out and developed Snoke more

@right - did he what?

Could he? Yeah, he could. The guy that wrote looper would have no trouble writing the backstory for an evil bad guy. Seriously, we all could come up with a decent backstory probably.

It just wasn’t needed, and I applaud him for not wasting our time with that. Wish he didn’t waste our time in the casino however.. my only real gripe with the film.

BUT it was perfect for a bathroom break. Maybe that was rian’s intention all along.

@G - Agreed, too many of Johnson’s decisions were just lazy writing. I don’t hate the film like many, I actually liked what they did with Luke. But it was a horrible script with a decent director.

Johnson has talents, writing isn’t one of them.

@rebellion - I'm sorry you were offended. Normally, I might agree with you, if it were just that one thing about Snoke. But it wasn't. It was the whole movie.

George Lucas had a plan. A storyboard. A general screenplay and structure for how things would play out. Sure, he tweaked and changed things as he went along over the years, but for the most part, he had his whole story mapped out. Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson? No plan. No plan, whatsoever. JJ teed it all up with new characters, but had no plan. But, he set up certain things that could be expanded on. They gave Rian Johnson free reign to do whatever he wanted. And, Rian Johnson is making excuses. Each director and writer just keeps kicking the can down the road. There's no plan, and it really shows. They're just making it up as they go along, and each person is kicking the plot points down the road for someone else to address, because they don't want to touch it.

(SPOILERS!)

Snoke? Rian Johnson says it's not important. That's b.s. He's just kicking the can down the road. He didn't want to touch Snoke. I don't care what the director says. There's no other reason. He just didn't want to come up with anything.

Mazda and her story about the lightsaber? "A story for another time". Because JJ was lazy, and didn't have an idea yet. Kicked the can down the road? Rian kicked it again. Said "no thanks, me either".

Rey's parents? Rian Johnson says it's not important. Again, that's b.s. He kicked the can down the road, because he didn't want to touch it.

And, just a whole list of complaints from me. Everyone was disappointed that there was no reunion of Han, Luke and Leia in The Force Awakens. So, what does Rian Johnson do? He throws it in everyone's face, and does it again! He fails to do a reunion for Luke and Leia. Yeah, yeah, I get it. They had a "reunion", but not really, though. It was a cheat. A "sort of" reunion. It didn't really happen.

Everyone wanted to see Luke use a lightsaber. Did he? Again, it was a cheat. He "sort of" did (flashbacks, force projection, etc). Another disappointment. Rian Johnson didn't want to use a stunt double for an older actor. I say b.s. They did it for Christopher Lee several years ago, and it worked. They could have done it here, too, with even better results with technology now.

Force Ghost Yoda? What a disappointment. There was something "off" about this scene. The way he looked, and especially the way he acted. He was just acting goofy (Even by Yoda standards). I wanted to see a much more serious and in depth conversation between them. But for the most part, Yoda was just acting like an idiot. Missed opportunity. Oh, and hitting Luke with his cane? (WTF?) Ok, whatever.

Luke? Not my Luke Skywalker, that's for sure. Never left the island. Throwing the lightsaber over his shoulder. Breastfeeding himself off of an animal (sigh) WTF

No Knights of Ren, and no explanation of that scene from TFA of Kylo and the Knights standing in the rain over the dead bodies.

No Force Ghosts Obi-Wan and Anakin? I'm sorry, but I'll never understand this. This should have happened. I hate all the excuses for why they didn't do it. That will never make sense to me. Huge missed opportunity.

Rian Johnson didn't change anything in the ending regarding Leia because he wanted to "honor" Carrie Fischer's performance and leave it intact. Yeah, whatever, buddy. Again, that's a bunch of b.s. He totally used that as an excuse not to have to come up with anything to explain her absence in the next movie. You can't have it both ways.. either she's in the next movie, or she's not (She's not). So, therefore, it needs to be explained. Honoring her performance doesn't change the fact that she won't be there. It needs to be written into the story somehow. But he just kicked the can down the road again. He forwarded the problem to someone else.

This whole movie was just lazy writing, all the way around. I can't believe this movie was allowed to move forward. I was mortified. Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson ripped the box out of our hands (with an "f-you" attitude), turned it upside down, and dumped all the toys out onto the floor. They stomped on and broke all the legacy characters, and whatever wasn't broken, they kicked down the road for someone else to pick up.

The movie was disrespectful and lazy.

@G - did you like the movie tho?

@G - "Hopefully it can be addressed elsewhere"

And........ They DON'T have a plan. Not even 12% of a plan.

@TeeKay421 -

1. A character who is 'not important' took the screen-time away from our main characters who needed development. Now the only thing you have to hype for with Episode 9 is Rey Vs Kylo again.

2. An unnecessary story tool with a cameo of a character nobody cares about to explain aspects that were not needed in both movies. Remove the light saber plot-line and Rey still would have been tasked with finding Luke due to exhibiting force powers.

3. Rey's parents was a mystery as established by J.J. he was brought on to create mysteries and the only non-repeated aspects of the Force Awakens are him creating mysteries.

4. If this movie series was not about them, then they should not have returned and been given so much focus that it distracts from the new cast.

5. Luke was a CGI double/CGI enhanced for most the end fight regardless.

6. In ESB it was used to take the audience and Luke by surprise. In TLJ it's done solely so Yoda can mess with Luke for no reason

7. This movie has no clear idea of its audience. It drags up the past to get people in seats, it does not focus on developing the new cast and it shoves in Porgs and tonally inconsistent humor to get the younger fans watching. If the movie does not have a clear focus then you certainly have no grounds in telling someone that the movie was not made for them.

8. They could, but they were important to Kylo's backstory and to have them return randomly for Episode 9 without them appearing in Episode 7 or 8 would be contrived.

9. Force Ghosts did appear, we got Yoda. Concept art and story boards confirm that Luke was originally meant to be killed by a Sith ghost and the only aspect Rian seemed solid on was the idea that he wanted to see a Sith Ghost fight a Jedi Ghost.

10. A lot of Carrie Fisher's scenes were cut, to leave in a scene that made everyone laugh at how ridiculous it looks and generally demeaned the character of Leia was a mistake.

11. If the person you were responding to was a child, they would be part of the audience that TLJ was targeting. Your 'entire plot' is a summary of the villain (Ben's) motivations which are born solely from Snoke saying he looked ridiculous with a Darth Vader style helmet on.

The movie also revealed that this is an idiotic and stupid asinine thing to do. It's flat-out told to us that characters are meant to remember the past and learn from it, that was the entire point of Luke Skywalker's role in the movie.

• You dont own these movies either
• They are made to please you (as in the audience) otherwise they dont earn as much money
• People have already gotten over how bad the movie was as demonstrated by the comments, all the support is resting on those calling Rian out on his nonsense.

@megabatfan - I will not argue that is was as effectively done as it could be, but I think the point of the Casino boondoggle was to give Finn and Rose a shared, extreme experience to set up a love triangle. ANH and Empire utilized the Luke - Leia - Han thing well until the decision to make Luke and Leia siblings in RotJ.

Finn has known Rey for a few days at most, and he seems way more into her than vice versa. We got more than a hint of Rey - Kylo tension as well, so I expect all of them to be changing their relationship statuses to "it's complicated" in the next film.

@G - More like kicking the can to oblivion so all left for Abrams is a pile of shit. But HEY he gets Rose instead and a kid with a broom to work with so what. [frick] Johnson.

@Canon108 - This.