RUMOR: YOUNG AVENGERS’ Leads Revealed As Some Venomous SPIDER-MAN 4 Plot SPOILERS Find Their Way Online

RUMOR: YOUNG AVENGERS’ Leads Revealed As Some Venomous SPIDER-MAN 4 Plot SPOILERS Find Their Way Online

We have a rumoured Young Avengers update about the movie’s leads to share with you today, along with some potentially massive Spider-Man 4 story details, including an unbelievable return. Read on for more!

By JoshWilding - May 21, 2024 04:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

With the San Diego Comic-Con and D23 fast approaching, it surely won't be too much longer until we get a long-overdue slate update from Marvel Studios. 

Some changes are bound to have been made following a return to quality over quantity and there are still big gaps in the Multiverse Saga which need to be filled (before, between, and hopefully after the next Avengers movies). 

It's looking like Young Avengers will be one of those projects and, according to scooper @MyTimeToShineH, that will be led by Hailee Steinfeld's Kate Bishop/Hawkeye and Iman Vellani's Kamala Khan/Ms. Marvel. The Marvels' post-credits scene set the stage for them to take charge of the team, so we're not exactly shocked. 

As for who will join them, your guess is as good as ours...there are plenty of potential candidates, though.  

Next up is Spider-Man 4. Earlier today, we told you that Venom is expected to play a minor role in the movie. We're taking this with a pinch of salt for now, but there are rumblings on social media spelling out the specific role the Symbiote will play in Sony's Spider-Man: No Way Home follow-up.

Apparently, The Shocker (Bokeem Woodbine) and The Scorpion (Michael Mando) will be two of The Kingpin's pawns in the movie, with the latter bonding with the Venom Symbiote just like he did in the comics. 

It appears Marvel Studios will skip Eddie Brock - though he has technically appeared in the MCU thanks to Venom: Let There Be Carnage and No Way Home's post-credits scenes - and go straight to Mac Gargan. However, after Peter Parker dies (this particular plot point has been hinted at by at least a couple of reliable sources), the suit will bond with him, giving us the black suit Spidey we've been waiting for.

Finally, we go back to @MyTimeToShineH who says that Marisa Tomei will return as Aunt May in Spider-Man 4. How? "Wait and see," the prominent leaker teases.

Alongside Tom Holland, Zendaya is expected to reprise her role as MJ in Spider-Man 4. Sydney Sweeny is rumoured to be playing Black Cat, and we're expecting Charlie Cox, Vincent D'Onofrio, and Paul Rudd to appear as Daredevil, The Kingpin, and Ant-Man. Like most of the details we have about this one, none of that has been confirmed. 

Spider-Man 4 also doesn't have a director, though plenty of names are floating around out there. Among them are Justin Lin, Drew Goddard, and Adil El Arbi and Bilall Fallah. 

Let us know your thoughts on these rumours in the comments section.

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TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 5/21/2024, 4:55 PM
You mean a movie based on the post-credit scene where Kamala tries to recruit Kate? What a totally reliable scoop that isn't an obvious guess at all!!!
Superspecialawesomeguy
Superspecialawesomeguy - 5/21/2024, 5:38 PM
@bobevanz - Didn't watch the prequel, was it any good? 0_0
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 5/21/2024, 5:58 PM
@Superspecialawesomeguy - Yes actually
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/22/2024, 3:17 AM
@Superspecialawesomeguy - no it was horrendous
DocSpock
DocSpock - 5/21/2024, 4:55 PM

I don't trust one single word of the Spidey "rumors".
Evansly
Evansly - 5/21/2024, 5:11 PM
@DocSpock - I dunno, seems like a very Sony thing to do. They are going to push for bigger while fans want Street level
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 5/22/2024, 5:42 PM
@DocSpock - i believe the involvement of kingpin and daredevil to be true. It would actually be less believeable if they werent involved at this point. Black cats intro is gonna happen eventually but it may not be sydney after being burned by sony with madame web. Symbiote suit will happen. Secret wars comic had him in the suit so we will see it then. Dont think we will see it in spidey 4 except for maybe the end credit scene.
TiberiousOmega
TiberiousOmega - 5/21/2024, 4:59 PM
They really should change the name of this site to “Rumor Has It”. I get they want eyes. But eventually people are going to quit this site all together. Who remembers “Ain’t it Cool News” and “CHUD”?
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 5/22/2024, 8:37 AM
@TiberiousOmega - If not for the comment section I would have quit this site a long time ago simply due to all the obnoxious rumors they post. They should just dedicate a page towards "Speculation" and remove the rumors from the main page cause it makes it too annoying to scroll through if all you want is actual real news. I would imagine that's a turn off for anyone visiting the site for the 1st time. I hang out with comic geeks like all day and no one besides me comes here anymore. I try to get others here all the time but no one who just wants comic news is interested.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/21/2024, 5:00 PM
I mean , the Young Avengers “news” is pretty much just common sense after seeing The Marvel’s post credits scene…

Anyway I could see Cassie joining aswell as Joe Locke’s Wiccan and even Elijah Richardson’s Eli Bradley at the least.

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Maybe even Ironheart & America Chavez?.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 5/21/2024, 5:17 PM
@TheVisionary25 - They randomly inserted Hulk's Son for no obvious reason in an End Credit, even if it was poorly executed they could have done so to use him as a standin for Hulkling.

Chavez wasn't part of the original team and her main power may not make narrative sense to add her yet so suspect they will hold off on her. We have Kang on the board for a potential Iron Lad to make sense to use in some way even if villain instead of member, Riri it could go either way as unsure if they would push her more towards main Avengers and/or stronger ties to the Black Panther franchise rather than Young Avengers.

TLDR The most logical starting point with who they have or will have introduced to various extents would be Patriot, Wiccan, Skaar, Stature, Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel... After that if going for more than six is a more open question but a lot of other younger characters that could appear narratively without becoming members such as Kid Loki and Heimdall's Son.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/21/2024, 5:20 PM
@Apophis71 - good points

Skaar was still so weirdly & randomly introduced that even Jen was confused lol
GEEK
GEEK - 5/21/2024, 5:40 PM
@Apophis71 - And Love, the little girl Thor. Which all that would kind of make it a Young Avengers/Next Avengers mash-up.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/21/2024, 5:43 PM
@GEEK - perhaps

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if she plays a big role in the Multiverse saga since I think she’s the MCU version of Singularity who was introduced during Secret Wars.

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MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 5/21/2024, 5:44 PM
@TheVisionary25 - well Elijah has been bulking up for something the last year
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 5/21/2024, 5:53 PM
@GEEK - If they make it a show feel like there are a lot, like Love or Phylla who could turn up for an episode or two tbh but as both those are off in space trickier to add as full team members and unsure they would pull them away from Thor or GotG. I mean he is currently a tad young to say the least but they could cross paths with T'Challa's son too at some point.

As I say, depends on how big of a team they start out with so tending to focus on who makes the most sense as a starting six considering how and where all the younger ones have turned up and what stories they most likely would go with at first.

I think as Vision Quest has been delayed so much they will probably use Clint and his Wife as the Fury and Maria hill for the team otherwise white Vision would likely have been the boss/mentor considering their comic history (not that they need stick firmly to that).
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 5/21/2024, 5:05 PM
Nice!
I love Iman like my cute lil sister and Hailee....well... 🤓
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 5/21/2024, 5:07 PM
Make the Young Avengers a mid-budget movie bc there is no way that the cast will draw a big audience.

May is dead, move on with PP, and if they include flashbacks, it’s a blatant cash grab.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/21/2024, 6:09 PM
@Dotanuki - It should be TV. They were all introduced on Disney+ so to have them get together in a big screen movie would be a mistake. Huge. Huge mistake. I think that's one of the reasons The Marvels didn't do so well.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 5/21/2024, 5:08 PM
As much as I love Eddie Brock as a character, I do think Mac Gargan is the way to go for the MCU. I can’t see Sony loving the idea of a not-Tom-Hardy Venom in the MCU, and Gargan is a character who has had a vendetta since Homecoming. It would be a fresh way to bring the symbiote story into the MCU. And Mando is great.

Would be cool to see Matt’s reaction to whatever he senses from the symbiote. And imagine if there’s a brief scene where it attaches to him, too.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/21/2024, 5:15 PM
@SheepishOne - agreed

Would be cool to see Mando channel some of that Vaas crazy into his take on Venom

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Origame
Origame - 5/21/2024, 7:50 PM
@SheepishOne - what about finally getting a proper scorpion? I'm much more interested in that than doing venom again.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/21/2024, 8:39 PM
@Origame - Yeah man, Scorpion, Hobgoblin and Tombstone.

Great villains we haven't seen.
Origame
Origame - 5/21/2024, 8:49 PM
@marvel72 - yeah. Not to mention Mac gargan venom was just a jobber anyway. Sure, he was a jobber as scorpion, but mcu venom shouldn't be a jobber.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 5/21/2024, 9:19 PM
@marvel72 - Tombstone & Hammerhead would make great villains in a Turf War movie. Especially if Kingpin is involved and the two crime bosses want to take one another out.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/21/2024, 9:27 PM
@SonOfAGif - Yeah Hammerhead another, do a Gang War story.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 5/21/2024, 10:24 PM
@Origame - I’m a big Scorpion fan, so I wouldn’t be mad about that at all. It just seems like they want to go the Venom route. Maybe Peter fights Scorpion with the black suit, only to have it attach to Gargan when Pete gets rid of it?

Or maybe they do the black suit without Venom for a change? Though that feels a bit wrong.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 5/21/2024, 5:09 PM
"your guess is as good as ours"

That's some salad reporting dude, that's why I've always respected you, you're number one and Markcassidy is number 2 like a poo in the loo.
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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 5/21/2024, 5:12 PM
you know what else found their way online? ..yes...is pizza
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/21/2024, 5:14 PM
Isn't it obvious who the leads of The Young Avengers will be.

Kate Bishop
Ms.Marvel

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Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/21/2024, 8:00 PM
@marvel72 - man, they really hate selling tickets these days
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/21/2024, 8:25 PM
@Ryguy88 - I guess if it goes straight to Disney Plus it might do alright.

But a cinema release just seems like a waste,when you can have the adult versions.

Which are better and have a great track record of actually making money.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 5/22/2024, 5:30 PM
@marvel72 - I'm all for trying out new characters, but at least grab some popular and/or interesting ones.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/21/2024, 5:18 PM
Interesting if the Spider Man 4 stuff is true…

I like them finally bringing back Bokeem Woodbine’s Shocker and Michael Mando’s Mac Gargan , especially as Kingpin’s henchmen since they aren’t really main villain material imo (atleast the former moreso then the latter).

Seems like that this would be setup for Peter taking on the symbiote for 5 or even till 6 (might be a bit excessive) whilst having Mac take it on in this so we can have Venom as an antagonist in a film which I’m cool with…

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Also in regards to Tomei’s Aunt May coming back , I could see it being flashbacks or even visions when the symbiote tries to take over Peter.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 5/21/2024, 5:20 PM
Young Avengers could be really enjoyable. Kate Bishop, Yelena, America Chavez, Kamala Khan. I'm assuming they need some males in there as well which is probably why Skaar was so randomly introduced in She-Hulk. I'm blanking on other boys for the team...
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