JOKER: Joaquin Phoenix Objected To Thomas Wayne Being Included In The DC Comics Adaptation

JOKER: Joaquin Phoenix Objected To Thomas Wayne Being Included In The DC Comics Adaptation

Joker director Todd Phillips has revealed that he believes star Joaquin Phoenix would have been much happier had the movie been titled "Arthur" instead, as he wasn't a fan of the comic book connections...

By JoshWilding - Sep 11, 2019 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Joker
Source: The New York Times
It's pretty obvious that Joker isn't going to be sticking to the source material, as it's a totally original take on the Clown Prince of Crime's origin story which doesn't appear to be borrowing all that much from the comic books. 

Now, though, director Todd Phillips has revealed that star Joaquin Phoenix really wasn't on board with any references to the world of Batman! "[Joaquin] never liked saying the name Thomas Wayne," the filmmaker explains. "It would have been easier for him if the movie was called ‘Arthur’ and had nothing to do with any of that stuff. But in the long run, I think he got it and appreciated it."

Without any links at all to the wider DC Universe, this really would have just been a Joker movie in name only! As we noted earlier today, Phoenix and Phillips also butted heads over the actor's weight, and while they agreed that the actor needed to change his appearance, the star was reluctant to slim down for yet another movie role.

"It’s a horrible way to live," Phoenix says. "I think [Arthur] should be kind of heavy. Todd was like, ‘I think you should do the real thin person.’" Ultimately, he gave in to the filmmaker's vision and lost a whopping 52lbs to play this version of the Harlequin of Hate! 
 
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GreenAerrow
GreenAerrow - 9/11/2019, 12:53 PM
Harlequin of hate?
MDFPodcast
MDFPodcast - 9/11/2019, 3:21 PM
@GreenAerrow - I LOL'd
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 9/11/2019, 12:58 PM
the only thing i'm worried about is feeling bad for the Joker .... imo there's no iteration of the character that you should feel sympathy for ...
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 9/11/2019, 1:00 PM
@plusultra - it may be just a documentary on what goes on in Phoenix's head most of the time ....... he's a bit off
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 9/11/2019, 1:01 PM
In that case then they might have had to change the setting of the movie and not make it take place in Gotham. 🤔
Argetlam22
Argetlam22 - 9/11/2019, 1:05 PM
#NotMyJoker
MrCamw1
MrCamw1 - 9/11/2019, 1:05 PM
Should this movie really be about The Joker and bit just a random guy? No. However by calling it Joker I they guaranteed buts in seats? Yes. Will I see it? Yes, I try to see all movies in theatres. Side note: I watched the Fanatic with John Travolta last night and that movie made me feel sick bu the end. Its gets mean spirited to the point I wanted to stop watching
tmp3
tmp3 - 9/11/2019, 1:37 PM
@MrCamw1 - Doesn't Travolta playing an offensive caricature of someone on the Autism spectrum in The Fanatic? Feels kind of tasteless
GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/11/2019, 1:07 PM
So further confirmation that the Joker iconography and material was used just to get the budget then?

Kyos
Kyos - 9/11/2019, 1:10 PM
If they'd made 'Arthur' the chances of me watching would've been higher. Like if Solo had been 'Smuggler Jim' or something.
CurlyBill
CurlyBill - 9/11/2019, 1:14 PM
I'm really excited for this movie, but I feel like this is only a joker film because of his name recognition.
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